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• Heather & Tom • Season 1 • Episode 78

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Tom's most recent video has been doing really well but he's also gotten a lot of "interesting" comments. Let's go through them and talk about how comments impact creators.

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Hi guys.

SPEAKER_00

Hello and welcome. My name is Tom, and I might have just blown out the microphone. And you're sitting at the Couples table.

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And I'm Heather.

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And you're sitting at the Couples Table.

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The Couples Table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse.

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For richer or poor.

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And Sickness End and Health.

SPEAKER_00

As long as we both shall live. Yay. Sorry, I got distracted by something at the very last second and then got uh confused there. But anyway, we're hello everybody. We're glad you're here.

SPEAKER_01

Um if you didn't know, Tom and I were doing the pre-show in our community, Just Create More. So if you want to hang out with us for the first uh 15, 10, 15 minutes before the couple table, you can join us over there. And Andrew had a question about the turntable used for your b-roll.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, that was what we were just talking about right now. So in my nice organized things right here, I have it right here. Um, it's this. I got it on Amazon. I don't know if you can see the brand. Uh sorry. I don't know if the focus will change. But the brand is COMCOM XIM. If you look up uh like on Amazon, you look at like product turntable, they're usually like $80 to $90. Um, but they can hold a lot of weight. They can hold like up to 100 pounds, I think, or more. Um, has a little remote so you can adjust some stuff with it, and it works great. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

There we go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

All right, let's really quick shout out to everybody who's here. Curiosity Network Podcast, what's up? Megan, Bailey, Parker Jennings, Divergent Design Studios, Mr. Camera Junkie, Dash with Ash. Uh, homesick Mac, Robotrix, Josh Scott, Drew, Megan, or Megan. Homesick Mac, Megan.

SPEAKER_00

Homesick Megan. Homesick Megan.

SPEAKER_01

James and Mark, what's up? Aron. For a second, I thought streaming live from the beach, having a foamy apple juice. That's actually a really old picture of us.

SPEAKER_00

But that's a very old.

SPEAKER_01

So here's the th here's the thing, right? Tom's mom loves looking at the thumbnails of the couples table because it's uh, you know, it's just pictures of me and Tom, but she doesn't actually watch the couples table.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But that's why like he's he's been trying to dig into like because like making a good thumbnail is very hard. And you know, like we the couples table is is a fun project.

SPEAKER_01

We're not trying to like super growing up.

SPEAKER_00

It's not the money maker, we'll just put it that way.

SPEAKER_01

It's a fun, it's a fun thing for us. So we're not like, oh my god, we need to have like the crazy old.

SPEAKER_00

I'll spend five hours on a thumbnail for my channel. Um I won't do it for like we don't need to do it for the couples' table.

SPEAKER_01

For the couples table, we find a picture. Yeah, we we should, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe we can we need to rebrand the couples table. We need to we need like a new uh podcast artwork, and yeah, we can we can have like a default thumbnail.

SPEAKER_01

So Tom and I did a photo shoot like for Couples Table photos, like for for Heather and Tom brand photos. I don't even know. It's two now. Two years ago, yeah. Um yeah, it's been a while. We still milk. We haven't done it since.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Andrew Moon is here. What's up, Andrew Moon? Good to see you. Uh Abre's here, Kristen Pratt.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there's a delay. I definitely see the delay. What's happening?

SPEAKER_00

Wait, is there between the pre-show?

SPEAKER_01

Between the pre-show, yeah. So the that's what's amazing about the the live streaming and writing networks is that there's no delay. There's like compared to YouTube, there's no delay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's pretty much awesome. Patrick's here, Nick is here. The Sontier Personal, Filmtopia, Anita and Bailey.

SPEAKER_01

Awesome!

SPEAKER_00

The couple stable is the community maker, though. So it serves a different purpose, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and it's a fun, it's just a fun thing to do every week. So, speaking of fun things, before we jump into what we're going to do this week, there is something I wanted to share which is funny.

SPEAKER_01

Are you ready for this?

SPEAKER_00

Um you've probably seen these before. The windscreens. This is the number one talking about comments is the number one question I've been getting is where do you get the colored windscreens?

SPEAKER_01

Where do you get the colored windscreens?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, answersreporterstore.com. No, I'm not associated with them in any way. But over the past few months, I've literally probably gotten that question 600 times. Like a lot of times. I'm not even exaggerating. And I'm guessing that a number of people who ask that question end up buying them from there. Um, so I don't know if like reporter store, they're not even based in the United States or we are. I don't know if they've like pieced together, like I think they've pieced together. I think well actually I think they have because I ordered, here's what I ordered actually. Um my big TV camera that I got a while ago. Look at this thing. It didn't have a windscreen on the microphone because it was old, and so I ordered one from Reporter Store so I can have a blue one on it. Uh, and that was fun. But when it came, they there was another thing in the box that I didn't order, and it just said like uh here's an experimental like gift. And it was this. I love it!

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, are you kidding? I love it. Oh my god, it looks so good.

SPEAKER_00

Not the microphone, but the the windscreen, which is a gold sparkly windscreen.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, reporter store. If you're watching, can we get a silver situation? Just because I think I think that would match my name.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, they I don't know. I love it. I think they're trying to work with like different textures and things. Uh so I was using it this morning for a podcast because I was talking about it in a podcast. Um, and the the only downside, so if you're watching from reporter store, is that some of the gold sparkles fall off and leave? Glitter. But also, I was talking and I inhaled a couple of them.

SPEAKER_01

So glitter is like the teacher's worst nightmare.

SPEAKER_00

I started choking a little bit. So um maybe we need a little like revision on that, but it's really funny.

SPEAKER_01

But it's amazing. I would totally buy that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, it's cool. Like the different textures and stuff, it's totally amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Alto Tech, what's up? Hot tub lady Jackie, how are you, my friends? I miss you all. We miss you as well. Raphael, what's up? You should set up a button on the stream just to type the exact same response behind all the stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Copy and paste it. I I did order that Elgato pedal thing. Um, that'd be fun. Yeah, so we can switch stuff. Because I've been I have a oh, it's down there.

SPEAKER_01

I can't imagine. I like this. I like moving on.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't. It drives me crazy. Um like constantly reaching and bumping things and my arms like out of the shot. If I could be here and just like move my feet and talk and have stuff change. Oh, sign me up. Well, actually, that's why I ordered it, because signed me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

How much was it?

SPEAKER_00

90 bucks.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's cheaper on a stream deck, but it's only three buttons.

SPEAKER_01

It's not it's three pedals.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's three pedals. Left, right, and middle. Um, but anyway, I'm excited for it because I I have a thing actually.

SPEAKER_01

We're going by show and tell. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Tom tried to finagle something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I have a MIDI foot switch that I've been trying to do like MIDI triggers with um for Ecamm and streams and stuff. And it's cool, but it's super loud. So even though you can do it with your feet, you're like, yeah, let me change camera angles.

SPEAKER_01

That's annoying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so this isn't not for streaming, it's for music, but I was trying to make it work.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Ricky. Not the money maker. Dollar super chat. Thank you, thank you. Uh Rahul, good to see you. Um you ordered the pedal before it sold out. I don't know. Because it sold out.

SPEAKER_00

They let me order it, so it must not have I I honestly was very like half-hazard, just like, I think I will get that pedal. And I just went to the Elgato website and it was there.

SPEAKER_01

I I don't know. Trying to get the pedal, they're sold out.

SPEAKER_00

I m I must have bought it like right before it sold out then.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what I don't know. Well, you're gonna have it and I'll tell us.

SPEAKER_00

I can't wait because I need it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, because first of all, you play the drums and you're used to foot pedals.

SPEAKER_00

True.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

True. I mean you drive a car though. Anyone who drives a car is used to like talking and doing pedals and stuff. It's just I think it's just gonna be so much easier for certain things. Obviously, you don't have the little screens that the stream deck has, you don't have all the functionality of a stream deck.

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

And I think that I don't think it's an either-or. I think the two work together really well. But for me, the main thing I use my stream deck for is switching scenes um and maybe one action like hiding comments or something. All that I can do with a foot pedal, and then I can just you don't even you won't even know. It's gonna be hands-free. Who's controlling the camera? I guess especially if you don't want the stream deck like, you know, within distance of yeah, for me, it's hard to like it, it it either like will get in the way or it's out here, and then I'm like, oh, I need to do something. And so every time I try to make a subtle change, you see me reach across the table and push a button.

SPEAKER_01

Have you guys ever been like, look at that guy reaching across the table?

SPEAKER_00

No, I find it distracting because especially when I'm talking to someone, if I'm doing like a stream or a podcast or something with somebody and they're talking and I'm reaching over here, it's distracting.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, I see, I see. Yeah, I yeah.

SPEAKER_00

See C C C It out so fast.

SPEAKER_01

Look at that explanatory live. What's up, by the way? Good to see you.

SPEAKER_00

Sold out very quickly. LGL bottle. Probably.

SPEAKER_01

Probably. I totally believe that. All right. So here's the thing. Um, we were gonna talk about what we would do if we were starting a new channel in 2022. We're gonna table that. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna put that on the couples table and talk about that later. Today, we are gonna talk about um Tom's comments. So comments. Tom has been, you know, he's been doing weekly uploads for years at this point and has never missed a week. Uh so you could imagine how many videos do you have on your channel?

SPEAKER_00

300 and something.

SPEAKER_01

300 and something. Um, you're at 85,000 subscribers. There's a there, I mean, how many comments do you get a day? Average.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Um 50 to 100, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

50 to 100. That's a lot of noise to go through. You die.

SPEAKER_00

Those are just the ones I just check YouTube Studio, if the which is sort of sad, because if someone leaves a comment and I reply to it and they reply back, I don't get the notification. So I have to like dig in for like comments that I have replied but have not gotten another. And so I don't do that. So usually like if if I reply to you and you reply back and I ghost you, it's because I literally can't tell, and I just can't go through every video and every nested comment and everything.

SPEAKER_02

So I love this.

SPEAKER_00

It just bothers me. And then you know what I do is then I hit a keyboard key and I mess something up or I knock something over.

SPEAKER_01

I feel the same. Jafk!

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. As someone who's been trying to build a foot pedal for a year now. Wait, whose birthday?

SPEAKER_01

Jayfk.

SPEAKER_00

Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01

Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so um today's video especially is Tom. I mentioned this on the pre-show, but Tom did a collaboration with like a super cool person. Um Heather.

SPEAKER_00

But in addition to that, we're collaborating right now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. No, in the video you uploaded today, it was with this guy. Alan from SoundSpeeds. And he rarely, very, very, very rarely does collaborations that aren't me, Ben, and Finley.

SPEAKER_00

Because collaborations are hard. It's not that I don't want to do them and people like ask all the time and I talk to people all the time, but it's very hard to do them in a like organic, purposeful way. Because a lot of times it'd be like, hey, I have a channel, I have a channel too. We should collab. And it's like, well, what do we do? Um, and a lot of times it sort of ends up being like very forced or whatever. Like Lewis and I did one a while ago about the Stream Deck, and that worked well because it was more like I did a video and he did a video, and the videos we did like complemented each other. So at the end, we could tell each other, we could tell people, like, hey, if you want to know more about this, check out Lewis's video. Don't look at it, don't look at it, don't look at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Um, but in this case, I was I was talking, I was making a video about a microphone. It was a professional level microphone. I kept in the video calling it a professional microphone. I was like, you know, I don't want to just say that. Like Alan from SoundSpeeds is a he's been working as a boom mic operator.

SPEAKER_01

In the industry, he is a professional.

SPEAKER_00

You've you've seen movies and TV shows that he's worked on, I guarantee he's in like Marvel movies and stuff like that. Um Stranger Things, like all kinds of stuff. And so I was like, you know what? I'm gonna send him a message and just confirm what I'm saying in the video. And he was like, Yeah, that's true. Do you want to like do a video call or something? And I was like, Yeah, sure. And so um, you don't have to screenshot, you can just push that button. And so that ended up like he ended up showing up to add credibility to the thing, which was cool.

SPEAKER_01

I just think it's gonna be easier because there's a lot that's like fine, and I don't want to show the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we can show the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

There's dash with Ash left a comment. Oh man. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Uh so okay. So here's yeah, why don't you give the overview while I look here?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so here's the overview. It's just sort of fun to go through, but um, the thing with my comments are the vast majority of them are super positive and really nice and super supportive. And I try very hard to appreciate that and remember that, and that's why I try to reply to them all. Um, and if they're not positive, I'm totally okay with critical comments. Like, you don't have to just be like stroking an ego the whole time. I'm totally okay with somebody. And people do that all the time. They'll say, like, hey, this was a great video, but I just wanted to like elaborate on some points you brought up. You said blank and um really blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, there's ways to do that, and those are awesome. I usually reply, like, thank you for adding insight and info to this. Like, this is really cool. If it's super relevant, I'll pin that just to make sure that like people get additional information or a separate viewpoint or whatever. Like, that's completely fine. Um, it's just how you go about doing that. And so um, every once in a while, there's the people who show up who do, I even checked like held for review comments.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, are they bad in there?

SPEAKER_00

I don't even know if there's anything in there. Oh, there's a lot in there. But but a lot of times it's just like, I don't know. It's weird stuff. The thing today, and Doc Rock, if you're here or if you listen to this or whatever, uh, you'll relate to this. I'm going to do a whole podcast episode about this. The thing with today's video is I talk about a microphone and I say, hey, this is like basically the best boom mic. And if you're somebody who's been making, you know, it's a boom mic that they use in TV shows and movies, but if you're a YouTube person or a streamer and you've been spending years trying to get a mic out of the frame that sounds good, and you've been buying all these different shotgun microphones and all these things, and it's not working for you, this is probably worth checking out. It's a $1,200 microphone. That's not cheap, but it's also like YouTube is a place where people will spend thousands of dollars on a camera or a lens or microphone. Like, it's not cheap, but it's also sometimes worth the investment, you know, especially if it's something that you're doing seriously and it's really gonna help your workflow. And so I wasn't really talking about the price, I was talking about the functionality. And so many replies I've gotten back have been about like, oh, it must be nice to have this money. Oh, I'm not gonna spend that much money. Oh, you think this is like that's way too much for just a YouTube video. I had to go off on somebody about like overkill for YouTube, and I was like, YouTube.

SPEAKER_01

I need to find you need to find those because I can't find them.

SPEAKER_00

They're probably on the video itself, but I was like, YouTube pays my mortgage, like it's worth the investment.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, but see, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I went into a whole thing about like YouTube channels bring in more eyeballs and revenue than network television shows, like to you know, say something is just YouTube is is not fair. Have you found some stuff?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I found two, and then I'll let you take over.

SPEAKER_00

I I want to show you one that is really funny to me. Um, I haven't some of them. So I used to reply to every single comment. And that was important to me. And I kind of I reply to 98% of comments now. If something's really bad, I just delete it or ban the person. If something's just annoying but it's not bad, I just ignore it. Um and sometimes I'll just downvote the comment and leave it there and let other people in the comment section handle that. Um I wish I could find the one. It's on this one. I need to just find the it's on this boom arm video. Here it is. I will show everybody here.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, wait, wait, wait, you're you're what's it? You got the overlay, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't, I don't care. This is on my road boom arm video. Uh this is a very helpful comment. Road, because I wrote road R-O-E-D, and they wrote the O with the slash through it. Get out! Like, what are you doing? Like, you're not helping. You're not helping. You're not helping. Go away. You're not helping. Sorry, that's like really annoying. I was gonna I was doing the whole thing and like, congratulations! Like, you win today's award for least useful comment I have received. I know, but like, but I just left it because who cares? But it's just like and oh, another thing that drives me crazy, sorry, is sometimes you mention something in a video and people will just like it's almost like they have their impulse, they leave the comment, and then it's before the part of the video, and so it's it's like really annoying when you get a boatload of comments about something you addressed.

SPEAKER_01

You haven't watched the full video where I explain this.

SPEAKER_00

Or it's something where like I mentioned this in the video, I put a link in the description, and I pinned a comment about it, and somebody's still gonna be like, but what about blah blah blah? And it's like, did you not like pay attention to anything? Because it's in so many places. I know I'm just ranting. I don't mean to rant, but it's so annoying. It's like when I was teaching, and we'd be like, you know, 20 minutes into a lesson, and someone's like, What page are we on?

SPEAKER_01

Well, here's the thing the reason why I thought this was a good topic to talk about on the couples table is because like I I think that um the human an average human being is not uh built to take in this much feedback. Like I don't think that there's we're not trained to to do this. Um and so to be able to navigate that is part of the journey, right? Like, especially if you're if you want to do this full time, you have to know, especially depending on the niche that you're in. You know, I I would say I would say that like female creators have it worse.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, infinitely. I'll take any of these any day of the week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but just because Tom's in tech talking about cameras doesn't mean that like all the comments are you know positive, and which is bizarre because like Tom is just so obviously um like you're so you're so transparent with everything that it just annoys me that anyone would like you know I don't know, like look down upon your content, especially because I know how much time you're not trying to hide anything, like you're not trying to appear that you are the expert or anything. Like it's all you know, I don't know. There's a lot of things that annoy me, but I I want people to know that like this is how he these these are how these comments genuinely affect him.

SPEAKER_02

It's frustrating.

SPEAKER_01

And I think it's I think that should be talked about. Like I I think it's dehumanizing for people to be like, just ignore it. That that's like don't have feelings, don't react to the world that's not. Yeah, and I don't think that's the answer, but also you know, the what I wish, you know, in a perfect world, what I wish would happen is that pe I think that creators are more hesitant to leave these types of comments because they know what it's like to be on the other side, right? And I wish that people would, without having to be a creator themselves, would understand that, like, hey, you know, you're talking to a person, like, would you say this to that person to their face if you were having a conversation with them? Which is all which I would say most of the time is like, of course you wouldn't, and you'd probably get along and you'd probably agree and have an awesome conversation, you know, and it's just I know that's not gonna happen because the internet is the internet. So that's why it's it's up to the creator to be able to be like, how do you navigate this, this like you go how do you how do you go through like without life getting 50 to 100 comments a day without it, you know, one feeding your ego and then two derailing your entire day. Because it can go both ways.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, and people with larger channels, like Nick is here in the comments. Nick can get 50 to 100,000 views on a video in one or two days. I'm gonna go ahead and guess Nick gets 500 comments a day. Um I mean, at a certain point, you probably just have to turn it off, and you're like, I just can't even check them because it's not even on because you just can't. That's what you have to do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but you know.

SPEAKER_01

But here, let me show let me show one.

SPEAKER_00

There's a few I wanted to set. Oh, well, you can show me one.

SPEAKER_01

Let me let me set the tone because you haven't seen these. Okay, so here's he he's eager. Don't do these ones.

SPEAKER_00

I I put those there.

SPEAKER_01

So here's a good let's start with a good. Okay. Let's start with a good one.

SPEAKER_00

Most of them are good.

SPEAKER_01

Most of them are good. Most of them are good.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so most people are nice. So glad to see you made this video. There is so much misinfo in YouTube filmmaking world about mics. Everyone immediately uses shotgun mics for indoor talking headslash dialogue when these pencil type mics can be better suited. I own the MKH50 and use it for professional indoor interviews, and it's amazing. Though it can sometimes be a little harsh on certain voices that have a lot of Sibylance and their S sounds. Anyways, great info.

SPEAKER_01

So this is like, and it's not like, okay, you know, you have to necessarily agree with Tom for it to be a positive comment, but the fact that you're like adding to the conversation based on your experience. Like, I have found this, this, this. You've kicked off a conversation. That's the whole point of a YouTube video, is like, let's talk about this.

SPEAKER_00

They even bring up points where it's like, oh, this is where that actually might not work that well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_01

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Love it.

SPEAKER_01

Here's I don't think you've seen this yet.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I guess. Oh, wait, I can't see it. I guess you don't understand. There it is. Oh, Michael. I can't read it though.

SPEAKER_01

I I did there a go.

SPEAKER_00

It needs to I can't see it, it needs to be up. Oh. I guess you don't understand why there are holes on the sides and what they're used for. Also, how supercardioid, hypercardioid should be used indoors and outdoors. Seriously, you should have learned it first from making a video since the whole thing you talk here is just not correct. By the way, shotgun and boom are different mics too with very different purposes and capabilities. Uh, Michael. You know what? I hope you have a great day, buddy.

SPEAKER_01

Um does this comment bother you, Tom? How do you feel about it?

SPEAKER_00

I feel this is a guy who's not made any. I'm gonna go ahead and guess, probably doesn't make a lot of YouTube videos.

SPEAKER_01

If he does, I'm gonna go ahead and guess they're not very successful. Can you process like what about this comment bothers you? Is it because he's telling you that you don't know what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Like what Yeah, it's the well, okay.

SPEAKER_01

So in the video, for example, I And how would you have rather have him say the comment?

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I've started to do a thing where uh when I talk about testing things in videos, I literally put on a lab coat and glasses and like set up things specifically to to make it goofy.

SPEAKER_01

Because clearly I'm not trying to be the I'm not the person like dun.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not Gerald and Dunn. If you go to Sennheiser's YouTube page or whatever, they do a whole they probably show you where they put the mic in an ano echic, anno annoechic, whatever you know, the soundproof chamber and how everything works. I'm just my point of view and everything is hey, I'm one person who makes a lot of videos and I want them to look and sound as good as possible while still being one person that makes them. So I'm gonna talk about how to use things like this.

SPEAKER_01

I'm in in a one-person independent creator setup. Like you're not making movies.

SPEAKER_00

You're not making movies, I'm not on a sound stage, I don't have a crew, so it's like, hey, if you're somebody kind of like me and you've been making videos and you want good audio, you might have a question about this microphone. Let's see what it sounds like in a setup like that. That's the approach that I very openly take with everything. Um, and this, first of all, he's wrong because the thing I explain in the video is correct. I talk about micro, like, you know, air and slot on the sides of microphones, sound travels in through those. I didn't go into an in-depth discussion of the hows and whys behind it, because that's not what the video was for. But he's straight up just wrong because I addressed that in the video.

SPEAKER_01

He seems to think that you're wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Um, also, how supercardioid and hypercardioid should be used indoors and outdoors. Seriously, you should have learned. That's all like it's it makes no sense because you're telling me that if I were gonna go film something outdoors in our relatively quiet backyard, I would use the same microphone as if I'm filming something in a parking lot next to a freeway. No. You're telling me that if I want to film something where I'm really isolating dialogue from someone versus getting the ambient noise in the environment, I would use like, no, you're making a generalized statement that is freaking wrong. You get out of my channel. Uh by the way, shotgun and boom are different mics. Yeah. Um, the thing there with that, that's what tells me like you're not a YouTube person, because literally the thumbnail, which I admit, like fine, you can you can fault me with this. The thumbnail is a picture of the microphone that says best boom mic. That's to get people to click on the video.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's a picture of a microphone, it says best boom mic. You know why? I don't care that that's not the correct term. Because what I know is most people in my realm, when they're talking about putting a microphone out of the shot, they're taught they call it a boom mic.

SPEAKER_01

Right. It's not okay. I see.

SPEAKER_00

I see the it's like tissues aren't not all tissues are Kleenex, but if you say, hey, hand me a Kleenex, you know what I'm talking about. Then a boom mic's not a brand name, but it's like when most people are saying, hey, I want a microphone that's like on a thing, out of the frame, doing that.

SPEAKER_01

Or across the pond, they talk about hoovering the bedroom.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Yeah. Boom mic is just a term that people are gonna look through. And clearly it worked because the video is connecting with people. So that is solving a problem for people. I don't care that the title and the thumbnail aren't super accurate because people will watch the video and they'll get the answer. That's where the accurate information is.

SPEAKER_01

It's like it's like you where you have to like make your the veg sheet, the veggies look good.

SPEAKER_00

A spoonful of sugar helps medicine go down. If I title the video Sennheiser MKH50.

SPEAKER_01

Well, why would anyone click on it? Especially if you don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00

No one's gonna watch that.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't click on it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but if I title it best boom mic, something like that. I know what that is.

SPEAKER_01

I think I have a picture of like what a boom mic is, and I would click on it.

SPEAKER_00

And that's where I'm like, clearly, like you're you're just not paying attention to the world of YouTube or whatever. And you can you can have your own opinion about that. You can say, like, no, it should be called Sennheiser MKH50 review, and it should be very straightforward, whatever. Like, you can run your own YouTube channel that way, but nobody's gonna watch your video.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so what what I think bothers you about this video is that um I I don't know how to how to say it. I think what's I think what's annoying is like for someone to come on your channel and just be like this video.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this video's wrong, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like, dude, I spent so much time working on this video. I never claimed to be a professional.

SPEAKER_01

Like So like what would you rather have him say?

SPEAKER_00

Well, here's a good example. I don't that guy, I'm gonna have why do we have double of us in here? That was weird. Um here's here's a good example. So here's another comment that I picked up earlier where somebody is I I talk about reflections in the video, meaning audio, like I sit at a desk, and so it's kind of a disadvantage, a desk advantage, because as I'm talking, the audio is hitting off the desk and you're picking up weird sounds because of the desk. And a solution to that would be to get rid of the desk, but it doesn't work because I use it in the videos. So have to work around that. This person says, consider the dominant room effect, and you're sitting at a table talking head scenes is what acoustic acousticians and engineers call first reflection. Beyond distance and aim of the mic, it will uh sorry, I can't read that, dominate the timber of your environment. For your case, the first reflection will come from your tabletop, change that acoustic surface surface, and it will strongly affect the caption on your voice. Without the table, it might be the ceiling, floor, back wall. First reflections, you know, he kind of goes on. He says, positioning mic, think first of distance, then aim, then a first reflection. He's adding info. He's taking a point I made where I was like, I briefly mentioned reflections, and he's like, hey, additional info.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And that is super helpful.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a comment where, like, literally, if I didn't already have a pinned comment that I needed for the video, I would pin something like that, where it's like, someone's gonna get more information from this. Okay. Um, and the other guy could have done that too by just saying, like, I I would say no, though, because in the video I never specifically say ever that there's one objectively best microphone you should get, because there's not. And there never will be. There's too many very I'm saying for this use case, this is really good. I spent years trying to find a solution. This solved the problem for me, and now I want to share that with you because if I had seen this video three years ago, I would have saved myself a lot of trouble. That's the purpose of the video.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I felt good actually.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, cathartic.

SPEAKER_00

You look like you sorry, I didn't realize how much that's been Well, you you have another one.

SPEAKER_01

Do you want to show that one? I'll go through the I'll go through these comments when you go through that one.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, here's another one. This is this is an example of how to do something poorly. Uh, because in the in the video, um, when Alan shows up, he talks about like actually, it might even be best to spend most of your money on treating your room rather than a microphone. And he's using a $50 microphone and he sounds amazing. And so this guy said, if room treatment is most important, then why not give us a video about that? I have half my room covered in foam and I still get echo even with a pencil mic. Very, very common problem. Um, or are you getting rid of echo in post? Oh, that's a fair, that's a like those two sentences are fine with me. Like, I have a room full of phone, I'm still getting echo. Are you doing post-processing to get rid of sounds? I think those are really valid questions to ask. That would be a better video, actually. And then I replied, like, I've got a video about that. I made a video all about sound treatment, the different sound proofing and sound treatment and the cheesy foam panels versus professional foam. Like, I have a whole video about that. I've also talked about it in every video I've made about a setup thing, and I don't really mind the points of like, you know, I don't expect him to search my whole channel, but to say, like, hey, you mentioned that sound treatment is really important. Do you have a video on that? Have you thought about making a video on that? Not that would be a better video, actually. Because this isn't a video about sound treatment. This is a video about a microphone. It wouldn't be a better video because then it would be about the wrong thing. Anyway, show him the door.

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Show him the door.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry. Uh-oh, he's calling. He heard a thing like this.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, really quick. I guess I'm trying to uh through the comments here. Um Explanatory Live. Same here, one comment on mine said, get to the point. The video is one minute long.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

It's like more time to leave the comment. Yeah, like sometimes I write the passive aggressive responses. I would like to say it on a notes document just to get it out, and then I usually delete it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't respond a lot. I usually, if it's usually I'll just delete it or ignore it or downvote it and then let other people deal with it. Um, but every once in a while, what I have found, especially if the same thing keeps popping up over and over again, I like to respond once, and then that's like my statement on this topic. And so and that's just so other people can see it. And then the other thing that I try to avoid is like it really does bother me when people say, You're just saying this is good because they sent it to you, or you got it for free, or clearly they're paying you, or whatever. Um, that bothers me for reasons that you all know. But I also worry, like, if I just delete all those comments, then that almost looks shady because then people are like, Well, every time I criticize every time I say that like he is being paid, he deletes the comment. So it's like it looks like he really is. Um, you know, somebody sent me a comment the other day that was like, I think it was on the Rode NT1 microphone video, which Rode sent me a microphone I was didn't even know they were sending me. I didn't have to make a video about it, but I liked it and I made a video about it. And I that's what I said in the video. And the person said, if you wanted to actually have credibility, you would have sent the microphone back or you would have paid for it in full. And I was like, okay, they don't want the microphone back. Like they don't want it because it's more work for them to have to like get it back and deal with it. So they don't want it. It's also gonna cost me a bunch of money to ship it to Australia. Um and also, like, like if you're telling me that getting a $300 microphone for free that I didn't ask for hurts my credibility, like, what about the hundreds of videos on this channel and the ethics statement and the like above and beyond of like being open and transparent with things? Like, none of that builds credibility. I know you you just see the channel, you leave a comment, you don't look at the whole thing, but maybe you should look at the whole thing, you know? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Uh okay, these are not in order.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, because for some reason they're not in order. Uh let's see. I know you are going for it. I'm curious. Has your watch time increased as your channel has grown? I'm curious if people pay more attention as they get to know you more versus people who don't watch all the video.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I don't know. I don't know. I don't pay attention. I think it's honestly like every month when I kind of go through my analytics, watch time stays pretty much the same. Or average view duration stays pretty much the same.

SPEAKER_01

If there's something you do not like, it's so much easier to move on than to say something mean to someone that has no value. But some people just thrive on making people feel better.

SPEAKER_00

And again, offering a counter opinion or a different viewpoint or adding information are all great things.

SPEAKER_01

Like I Well, this is just like common courtesy human being 101. Like that's why I don't it's just it's like I mean You want to talk about why I took a social media break? This is like part of the reason, which is so annoying because you know who's been like the biggest digital media advocate of all? Literally, like I I will we are married because of of the internet and all these things, but I just hate how like why why do people default to like just like it's just so much easier to unsubscribe, unfollow, move on to the next video? Like, this person doesn't know what you talk about, then why are you spending time like yeah?

SPEAKER_00

I yeah, if you're if you're a pro, why are you watching an intro level video anyway? Like, this isn't for you. Are you going to like a first grade classroom and being like these math problems are too easy? Like those kids don't know it yet.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Chris is this is what I said. Michael's comment is edited. I'm now really curious as to what he said before. Is that it?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't know. I'm sure it was even more brilliant. Um actually kind of sucks.

SPEAKER_01

Because I bet, like Heather was saying, You guys would hit it off and be totally like frightened.

SPEAKER_00

If I was at BH Photo and Michael was there and he was like, You're the dude from the YouTube thing, and I've been just create more.

SPEAKER_01

We'd all he'd be great.

SPEAKER_00

Like Well, even Alan from SoundSpeeds, who's in my video today, he has sent me things where he's like, There's points of the video where I'm cheering, there's points where I'm screaming at my screen about something, and that's fine. Like, I don't care if you you can disagree, you can correct me if I'm wrong about something. It's all fine. It's just how you do it. And the same goes with just how you would deal with anyone in daily life. Like, right. Yeah, if if you if you supervise someone or you oversee someone at an office and they turn in like paperwork or whatever that's done wrong, like you don't feel like suck. Yo, you idiot. You fill out this form wrong. What's wrong with you? Like, you're so stupid. You should have read this before you turn it into me. You'd say, like, oh hey, like I saw that you didn't sign page six here. Can you get your signature on that?

SPEAKER_01

Done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Um, it's not easy to ignore those types of comments, but it's the only thing that actually works. You're just wanting your stokes the fire. Uh Nick says it's admirable, you read all the comments, but I do not have the patience. I check them for 20 minutes when a video goes live, and I never check them again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, the thing is, because I said most of them are positive, and I'm sure it's the case for most people, and it's like if someone is spending the time to share a thought, ask a question. Like another one I got this morning was on a uh workflow video I did about the Rodcaster Pro, where the guy was like, Thank you so much for this video. Uh, it really helped me. I've been overwhelmed with starting my podcast, and this shows me that it's possible to do it while still having like a full-time job and stuff. I really want to reply to that and be like, I'm so happy to hear that. Thank you for the message.

SPEAKER_02

Awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um also, like, yeah, the Rodcaster's great, but you know, you can get started with what you have. Like, don't let the gear stop you from getting started, but it definitely helps. Like, I would like to, if if someone's on the cusp of like starting their thing, I would like to, you know, encourage them and give them the push. And if someone takes the time to write something really nice and I can read it and respond to it, I like to. Um, but yeah, it's there are times where it's like I just can't. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh we recently released a video. I only I eat only eggs for three days. This is what happened. The comment that bothered me was when someone said, You should have added vegetables to your omelet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, even today, I had I had things because in today's video I compare three microphones, and I've had multiple people say, like, I can't hear a difference between any of the mics. They all sound the same on my phone. Yeah, they do. Because your phone has bad speakers, they're all gonna sound the same. Like, put on a good pair of headphones, you're gonna like.

SPEAKER_01

But but the video's not for you. Yeah, like the video's not for you. Yeah, then because that's what I would say. That that I mean, cool.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's true.

SPEAKER_01

And and all I don't care about mics, I don't care. But that's but I'm not I would never, I would never go to someone's freaking channel about mics and be like, this is dumb because I don't like it. Like, yeah, you do you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's just weird. I don't know. If the person's not trying it, I get it. If I were saying, hey, I am the mic professional, and I I'm gonna change my name from Tom to Mike because I'm so good at mics, and I'm gonna tell you everything you need to know, and what I say is absolutely correct. And if you're not doing this, then you're doing your audio wrong. That's a point where it might be where maybe someone should say, like, hey, like, actually, you're giving like bad information to people, and I don't like you wouldn't want people to think that that's the case, but never once have I ever said the way I do things is the way to do things. I'm sharing my experience and offering some input.

SPEAKER_01

Dave says, hurt people try to hurt people. I've never heard of happy, successful individuals attacking someone who's doing great. Yeah. And and it's the same thing where I truly believe that if you've been on the creator side, you know what it's like.

SPEAKER_00

So I've never gotten this kind of thing from someone who does. Who has a channel themselves, yeah. Like literally never.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, I looked up the mic right after I watched your video, otherwise, I would have never heard of it. So thank you, Tom. Yeah. There's been several of those comments.

SPEAKER_00

It's a cool thing. That's why I made the video because I hadn't heard of it either, and I was like, what the heck is this? Oh, okay. Actually, actually, funny enough, I found out about this microphone from a negative comment. I just realized this. It was on Eposvox's YouTube channel, the Stream Professor. Um, he's like 300,000 subscribers, and he did a video about microphones a few months ago, and there was a comment where a dude was like, I don't know why all you YouTubers want to put like a big microphone in front of your face. It's super ugly. If you really want to like get good audio, you need to be using an N page 50 or something else, yeah, on his channel. Which he's like really experienced in what he does. But it was the whole thing about like, oh, you guys are dumb because you have big microphones in front of your face. Why do you do that? You should use this one. And I was like, and they they had a whole reply thread. I was like, this guy sucks. But I was like, wait, what's he talking about? This microphone here, and that's when I started looking it up. I was like, oh, actually, there's something to that, and then I reached out to Sennheiser.

SPEAKER_01

Uh let's see. Hotsub Lady says, I put my comments aside until a certain point in my day. However, I usually only get 10 or so a day. Most are good, but once in a while there's one comment just that just requires you to be done for the day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's not bad. It's like I'm I'm letting a bunch of steam out right now, but it's it's not a big deal. The vast majority of them are positive. I think it's much like it's like we said, much easier for guys than girls. I once in a while get comments about my appearance, but she'll get comments like, you know, here's a video on how to make a YouTube watermark, and then it's like 18 comments about appearance.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. So dumb. And it's always from guys, which is like strange. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. Um, Miel says that you can put actually before the comment and it still makes sense, and it's probably not useful.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, unless it's like actually, I had no idea about this. Thanks for the good info.

SPEAKER_01

Drew says, I'm surprised at how many people don't understand the difference between feedback and opinionated comment.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Or or just adding to a dialogue. Like again.

SPEAKER_01

Uh you gotta filter between armchair quarterbacking and a thoughtful comment, regardless of it agrees with you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, and that's that's what you know, because sometimes there's ones that rile me up or it makes me feel like, uh, like, but then it's like, you know, I'll put my pride aside.

SPEAKER_01

I have to say, as the person who lives with you, like you handle it so well. Maybe once every other day you'll get you'll be like, I just got this copy.

SPEAKER_00

It's usually it's usually just entertainment value. Like, I just got this company where the person's road, not road. And I'll, you know, I'll I'll I'll do something like that. Um, but it's not, it's usually like almost for the entertainment value of like, I can't believe this just happened. I'm not like stomping around or feeling it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01

When people tell you to should, they're really shoulding all over themselves.

SPEAKER_00

It's a real should storm.

SPEAKER_01

Um it's interesting that when you click on a username of someone that leaves something negative, chances all the history of all their comments are negative too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and chances are they have a blank channel, probably a blank profile.

SPEAKER_01

I've worked with real life rage commenters. It's so much worse in real life. Oh that sucks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't even want to know that situation.

SPEAKER_01

Hi, Annika. Good to see you.

SPEAKER_00

Um I saw Arone's comment. I'm buying the video might go to.

SPEAKER_01

The video might go to, because it's the one I can afford now, but for me, it's helpful to know about the MKH50 existence as a future investment.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But this is a great mic.

SPEAKER_00

The go to is really good. You know what? I'm not the mic actually. I have a video coming out in a few weeks about it. Um, it's super cool and it's a great USB mic. So, what I've actually been doing with the GoTo, um, it's been my go-to for just keeping in a drawer right here. And when I'm editing a video and I realize I forgot some info or something, or I need to add in a quick voiceover, I just plug this in with USB real quick and like poop, do a quick voiceover. Even if I'm mixing it with the super expensive Sennheiser, obviously it doesn't sound exactly the same, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_01

I don't comment on the sound of microphones for precisely that reason. I watch most YouTube videos on my laptop or phone, not heavy phones, unless I know it's comparison.

SPEAKER_00

Well, for something like this, too. Okay, so I'm using an industry standard piece of equipment that is expensive to you know the average person. A lot of the people who have experience with that are people who have worked with it professionally. And so they're gonna, you know, it's like I don't know, here's a tool you use every day for your professional life, and now you see someone who you think like doesn't know how to use it correctly, and you feel like I need to. But that's where like you can use your knowledge and experience to help people, not talk down to them.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Hey, coffee talk and tech.

SPEAKER_00

Coffee talk tech.

SPEAKER_01

And Christmas clatter's here. Caleb has to go.

SPEAKER_00

That's McCool, Caleb.

SPEAKER_01

Um that's fine. Have you ever had comments of people announcing they're unsubscribing and why? I had someone they say they left because they didn't like how I chew and they came back six months later to say I improved.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like just leave. I don't need to know. I like it when people tell you why they subscribe.

SPEAKER_01

Like, well, I feel like if you are if you have to announce your exit, that says so much more about you than it does about the person. Because like you obviously want the final say. Like you you obviously, you know what I mean? Like if you honestly didn't Care, you would just go. Yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_00

I have unsubscribed from channels too. I've never told them.

SPEAKER_01

Like all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I don't tell them because and I don't I don't even think to.

SPEAKER_01

It doesn't even occur to me. I just like just boom, done. I I have moved on.

SPEAKER_00

As long as what I what I would say is like if my monthly net subscriber thing goes up, I don't use an example. If it were going down, down, down, then I would probably want to go, hey, why is everybody leaving? Like what happened? I I probably need to know about this.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

But if overall it's going up, then people leaving, it's just not for them, and that's okay. It's like I'm not gonna make you happy.

SPEAKER_01

Here's a channel, here's an example of a channel that like was a big deal that I I don't think I unsubscribed, I just stopped watching. Actually, maybe I have unsubscribed, I don't remember, but it still pops up because I used to watch all the time. Philip DeFranco.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I used to love Philip DeFranco. I used to talk about him all the time. I religiously watched that show. Um, and then he made a video of what there I don't even know how to explain this. Basically, he said an opinion that I did not agree with, and it kind of tainted like the whole show for me. And I I just found myself like not having the same uh urge to watch his content, and I just like stopped watching it. I would never be like, I completely disagree with this, you shouldn't have said this. Like, I tell that to Tom, but I don't tell it to him because because regardless of what I think about what he has to say, I still appreciate and respect the research and you know, the planning and and and the passion behind you putting yourself out there and and well, I mean, what would the world be like if none of us had a voice? Like that's the whole point, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Stuff changes. Like, I'll I'll use Peter McKinnon as an example. Um, because he's early on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, this guy would not not stop talking about Peter McKinnon. Like when we first met, and I never, I have never, I don't think I've ever watched a Peter McKinnon video. It just never, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Because Peter started his channel four months before I started mine, and so it was like, wow, like this person's like making stuff look really good.

SPEAKER_01

And it and it was like every day. I did you see the name Peter McKinnon?

SPEAKER_00

And I learned so much and I got so much out of it. And then after a couple years, I was like, I found myself not liking the videos as much. Um, because it what I felt, which is completely valid, is he was sort of done with like the stuff that drew me to the channel and had moved on to more like almost like lifestyle videos and stuff. And I was like, oh, this just isn't for me anymore. Like I really got a lot of value out of this, but I haven't watched like the last 10 videos that have popped up in my feed, so maybe I'm just sort of done. But absolutely, but yeah, maybe like eight or nine months after that, a video popped up in my recommendation for. Oh, and you loved it. And I clicked it and I was like, oh, this is cool. And then I started to notice that it seemed like he had hit a point where with his videos he was like really having fun with them, and like I could just sort of feel that like he was excited to be making them. He was really just having fun making them, and they were like really cool. And he was, I could see how he was like challenging himself, like he had gotten to a point, I think got comfortable, and now was like really challenging himself to do things differently. And I was like, this is really interesting. Re-subscribe because now I want to follow this journey more again.

SPEAKER_01

So it's like it's like it's so it's not always gonna be right because people freaking change, like in real life, people come and go. Yeah, like it's just yeah, he didn't do anything wrong, right? And for someone to be like, Oh, I like the old Peter McKinnon stuff better, you were not allowing people to like change, yeah. So is this person supposed to be like dance monkey for you for eternity?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I call that I've talked about this before, I call it the band dilemma because bands face this a lot. If a band has one or two successful albums, I don't know if it's the same now that everything's like streaming and singles, but back in the day when it'd be like CDs and albums and stuff, if a band had a couple successful albums and then they made another one, if they made one that fit in very well with their previous ones, people would say, like, oh, they just make the same album over and over again. And then if the band tried something new and went in a different direction, they sold out, I like their old stuff, it's they've changed, and it's like so the band is is it's literally is a cat like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If they don't change, they're people are gonna tell them they never change. If they do change, people are gonna say that it shouldn't have changed, and then what you gotta do.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta do for you. Like you can't like what what breaks my heart the worst part of this whole thing, right, is being in a position where we educate and empower people to utilize social media to achieve meaningful goals, to put themselves out there, to create content. It's it is so many people never make that leap. And I think we really have taken for granted how how much of a leap that is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, like, if I had never done that, none of this, this moment would not exist, right? Like a lot of you wouldn't be here if you also weren't creating on YouTube. And the fact that someone's hate comment or stupid, stupid comment can make it so that someone who was brave enough took a chance, made that leap, never creates a video again, kills me. Like that that just it just makes me so sad. And of course, that person who left that comment will even will never even know like how they silenced that other person, you know, and I just I just hate that because luckily Tom and I are lucky, um you know, and I think the I think the world has evolved where there's more creator resources and there's more, you know, people are talking about this, so there is support. The platforms understand that, you know, I mean the the conversation around like creator mental health, it's not just like creators are here living this lavish lifestyle and who cares about, you know, they're completely immune to emotions and comments and all that. Now there's more conversation about that, but you know, it it's still like it just if you were not who you were, someone else could have read Michael's comment and been like, I'm never making another video again. And that sucks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, or I'm gonna take my video down because somebody Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Like how horrible, how awful, you know?

SPEAKER_00

If there, if there's a critical error that's different, like I'm not saying never admit you're wrong or something, but like there isn't with this video. You know how many times I've watched this video, aside from planning it, making it, recording it, editing it, watching it, probably the finished version, probably eight to ten times.

SPEAKER_01

Like people don't understand like what goes into to every single word that makes it into the video is intentionally there for a reason.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And like that's not to say it's a piece of perfection, but it means like I'm comfortable putting it out there with my my name behind. I was looking up was um something Heather showed me a while ago was when you get the the really good comments, like screenshotting them or saving them, because it's so easy to just like, here's a good comment, cool, thanks, and then you forget about it. But to really think when somebody says, like, I appreciate this, I love the way you explain things, you know, the you've helped me to do blah, blah, blah. You made this really clear, like really taking the time to remember that uh is very important. And and that's where it's like and that's get a folder.

SPEAKER_01

And that's most of the interaction.

SPEAKER_00

I think probably even for most of us here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, because we're none of us here are doing anything crazy or contradictory.

SPEAKER_01

We're all positive, creating positive concepts.

SPEAKER_00

So I think most of us are the majority of our feedback is positive, um, whether how much or little of it there is. And I think that that's just it's very important to remember that. I'm we're talking about this today and letting it out, but it's not it's not something that weighs on me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But it is frustrating when when I think it's important. Here's a batch of comments. I'm sure most of them are gonna be great, and I want to take the time to find the people who have who have given me their time to watch my video and leave something thoughtful on it. I kind of want to like reply to that. Uh, but to do that, I also sometimes have to sift through these turds that are just like stinking it up. And it's and those don't even count the ones that just get deleted or ignored, or like they're just totally insulting or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

The most ridiculous comment I've had, and it was recent, was to throw away my new Sony mic when the other comments on the video said how good it sounded, I just left out loud.

SPEAKER_00

That's one of my favorite things that happens is you make a video. So, like, you know, you'll you'll you'll make a video with your new Sony mic, and there will be one comment that's like, this mic sounds amazing, and right below that, this mic sounds like garbage, you should throw it away. And you're like, that person, those two people watch the same video and have exactly opposite opinions.

SPEAKER_01

You can't this is why you can't please everyone, and you gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta do you.

SPEAKER_00

I oh, you know what I saw recently? I saw this yesterday, actually. I don't know how this works or if it's things YouTube's testing, but I saw it, I think it was Nick Niman's channel. Um, somebody posted a screenshot. They went to leave a comment, and before they could leave a comment, a thing popped up in the comment section that said, like, hey, welcome to this channel. Before you leave a comment, please remember, and then he could put like his three rules of like do this, do that, do that, and then click okay, leave a comment. It must be. Um, I think they're probably rolling it out to different channels where before people dive into the comment section, not that it's gonna help the person who's hellbent on like leaving a jerky comment. It might even like instigate them more, but it at least lets you go like lets you kind of set the tone and the expectations in your comment section a little bit, which is actually kind of cool. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_01

I had a coworker tell me in person that they unsubscribed because my video quality sucked. I laughed and said, Well, thank goodness I don't care considering I'm literally only four months into YouTube.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that no matter what your video, even if you were filming with a Motorola Razor from 2006, your video quality was probably better than their video quality, which was non-existent. So put that in their pipe and smoke it.

SPEAKER_01

What Harris Heller did a short once on someone unsubscribing about how to announce it to his face?

SPEAKER_00

I like Harris.

SPEAKER_01

Um let's see.

SPEAKER_00

No, Matt's a good example, actually, as me because I like to argue.

SPEAKER_01

My topic when I ran companies early, on a boss gave me good advice. Praise in public, criticize in private.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think Matt's a good example of someone who will add information or add uh like add to a dialogue.

SPEAKER_01

Have a conversation. This is not like don't come here and make the hill that you're gonna die on. Do that on your own channel, you know?

SPEAKER_00

Use your knowledge and your experience to help people. Like, yeah, you know, sh explain something, add some details, whatever. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. That's how Mark felt about Nelly Fortado when she went from I'm like a bird to promiscuous girl. I heard promiscuous girl in the gym this morning, and I was like, yeah, I I don't know why I think of you guys when I hear this song. Wow. Side note. Uh let's see. Do you know that song?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, good.

SPEAKER_00

I was also alive when you were alive.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but we listened to completely different music.

SPEAKER_00

But Nelly Fortado was like, um, at least like when she hit hit the scene, was still in like MTV days, and you know, when when you have to read this. More people were listening to the same thing at the same time. What am I listening reading? I met a block of cement once. I'm sorry to say I took him for granted. That comment rocks.

SPEAKER_01

I used to get comments saying that my German accent sucks. Fun fact, all of them were for were from people from Germany. I use them as motivation to prove my English and just get better every day.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, I mean, you're speaking, you're delivering videos in a non-native language. Like you win just for doing that. But here's something cool.

SPEAKER_01

That just uh that just annoys the hell out of me, man. I'm annoyed for you, Leo. You know what, honestly, like I see, I do not handle these well, I don't think. I get really annoyed. I just get so annoyed. Ugh.

SPEAKER_00

Well, here's something that's cool that reminds me of that that I really like. So we'll talk about the positive magic of the internet. I don't know if it's the same person or not, but somebody's been leaving comments in Chinese on my videos recently.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, did you copy it to Google Translate?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, so you copy it into Google Translate, you see what they say, which is like great video, thanks so much. Um, and then I write back and I hope it is fairly accurate, and I reply, and like I I'm sure that like the Google translation of like English to Chinese is uh or to simplify Chinese is maybe not perfectly accurate, but I'm sure they get the gist of it, just like I can get the gist of what they said, and I think that is so cool because it just completely eliminates like it eliminates the barriers. Like there are people on this planet who before that you would just not be able to communicate with. Right, ever. Like it doesn't, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. We just can't communicate. It's just like a wall, we're totally different, and now like literally in two seconds, I can communicate fluently completely different language with different characters and everything. Yeah, and that's for free also, uh, is amazing, and I love that. It makes me I get so happy when I get like comments from totally different languages because it's like I know normally I would never be able to interact with this person, and now we can actually talk to each other. Yeah, and it's it's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Um, the opposite is when a YouTube YouTubers are so affected by comments they turn them all off. Personally, I feel if they don't want my participation that I'm not going to participate in Washington.

SPEAKER_00

That's so that is always a weird thing when people turn off comments. Like you've turned off comments and you've hidden your subscriber count.

SPEAKER_01

It's like there's But what are you here for?

SPEAKER_00

There's something that's uncommon. Go on public access. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Um this is always how it is.

SPEAKER_01

I got a comment on a live stream just saying waste of time, no elaboration, so I asked if he was talking about the stream or the camera, and he responded with an essay of feedback. He had zero subscribers, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It's always like that. I really like this profile picture, Jared and Rocky.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. It bothers me when creators don't use mics at all, yet I don't want to be that guy and say anything.

SPEAKER_00

You know what's really funny? This I I I don't know if other teachers haven't come.

SPEAKER_01

How do you remember the year of the Motorola razor? Because he has a very weird memory.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um Teachers. Oh, teachers, yeah. So teachers have this weird pride about their teacher voice. And I've seen this, it's almost universal. If you go to a training with teachers, where there's a whole room or a gym or whatever, inevitably somebody, the trainer will say, like, hey, can I get someone to help out? Here's the microphone. The teacher will always say, I don't need a mic, I'll use my teacher voice. And then they'll start yelling, and people can't hear them, and then they're like, use the mic. And the person's like, No, you can hear me, right? I'm like, just use the mic. We all know you can talk loudly over a group of people. That is your job. Just use the microphone. It happens. I mean, like, literally, I've probably spent hours of my life listening to this back and forth of like, I don't need the mic. I've got a teacher's voice. No, you should use the mic. Do I really need the mic? No, I don't. And I'm just like, use the microphone. Like, why are you doing this to us?

SPEAKER_01

Uh, Christmas Clatter on the podcast is starting a comment of the week segment. You should do comment, we should do comment of the week on the couple's table.

SPEAKER_00

I would like to do positive ones though, or interesting ones, not necessarily positive, but like interesting ones or ones that I learned something about or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, that's how it should be. Whatever you want. It doesn't have to be negative comment of the week.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That should be pretty fun. Oh boy. I saw someone leave a comment on a YouTube video about the video quality not being good. Turns out his video quality is set to 240p. He was saying you couldn't get a camera with all that YouTube money.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's so weird. That's funny. That's so funny because I had I did a live stream, my last live stream, I had multiple cameras set up. When I do my videos, now I have all Sony cameras. It's very easy to match them because they're all the same system. When I was using a Sony and a Canon, out of camera, they don't look the same. But in Final Cut, I can adjust them, add presets that I made to make them match pretty well. Not perfectly, but pretty well. No one ever complained, but I did a live stream where I like quickly, someone asked a question. I quickly set up my Canon camera in addition to my Sony so I could switch back and forth. And then somebody was like, if you really cared about the quality of your videos, you would take the time to make sure your cameras actually match color. And it's like, did you not even see the part where it's a live stream? And I literally set it up on the fly.

SPEAKER_01

Like, what are you? Yeah, it makes me literally my stomach is turning.

SPEAKER_00

There's another thing. This might even be a topic for another day because I know we're sort of at the end of our time here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I also have um workshop after that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But here's the last thing, or at least one thing I'll bring up is I got this comment today because the microphone I talked about today is a $1,200 microphone. If you're just sitting there and someone says, spend $1,200 on something, probably you're gonna say that's a lot of money. I don't know about that. There are some people out there who wouldn't think twice about spending $1,200 on something. It also depends. If you use a microphone once a year, probably a waste of money. If you use it all day every day, could be a good investment. Um, if you're a big budget Hollywood film, $1,200 is basically free. Like, yeah, who cares? Get 10 of them, like whatever. Uh so it's all about that context. But a thing that has popped up lately, and I'm gonna do a whole podcast episode about this this season. I already have it like written down and outlined, is just for YouTube. And somebody told me, like, why are you recommending this microphone? It's such overkill just for a YouTube video. Ooh. And I'm like, and I hate that attitude. Because that comment bothers me, but I see that so much. We talked about the Gerald Undone video where he had everyone there. So many people in the comment section to that video say, like, why does everyone have all this gear for just YouTube? It's just YouTube videos, just this.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know how magical of a place YouTube is? It's your hobby. Who are you to criticize? Would you go to up to a professional chef who has invested all this time, effort studying culinary arts and just for one meal? It's just for hamburger. What? Oh my god, like who are you to criticize someone's passion and how they want to like express themselves?

SPEAKER_00

It's and to play devil's advocate, a lot of people who do YouTube stuff and have gear, they use it for other things. So if you want to play that game, they might be using it for client projects.

SPEAKER_01

But even if you're not, even if they're not if I want to use a hundred dollar nail polish, I'm gonna use a hundred dollar nail polish. Even if it's just the polish is gonna chip off in a day. Who cares? It's like, are you serious? I are you really went off on this one. Because I hate it when you're it's just it is a rare thing for someone to be passionate about something, especially in adulthood. Okay, for you to find something that lights you up to the point where you're willing to spend money on it. Like that is that is a special thing. That doesn't happen to a lot of people. And if this is a thing during this time, you have a hobby that lights you up, and you I remember how excited I was when I bought my first, like my my Joby Gorilla Pod. Like I was like, this is this is gonna allow me to do so many things, and you start getting creative and like the gears start turning, and then someone over here is gonna be like, What are you gonna get that just for YouTube? Who cares what it's for? I'm having fun. I am having fun. Who are you? I'm never gonna see you. Like, are you serious? I'm oh my god, I can't.

SPEAKER_00

That's actually a better perspective. Because my perspective was like I can't. It's like it's 2022, like YouTube is a multi-billion dollar platform at this point. It pays our mortgage.

SPEAKER_01

Like this is our full-time job.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, maybe it's worth the investment if if if I can invest in something that's gonna see.

SPEAKER_01

Who are you to create? Do whatever you want to do. Like hobby. Like, there are people there who literally like collect coins from ages ago.

SPEAKER_00

Think of how much money a good set of golf clubs costs.

SPEAKER_01

Are you seriously gonna tell me, like, oh, it's just for YouTube? It's just for golf. Like, oh yeah, and do whatever you want. I can't. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

I can't. No, the that's why I literally said I wanted to- We could do a whole couples table on this idea. Because there's that part, there's the passion part of it, and then there's the like I know people remember YouTube as the cat video website from Tooth. This is not a person. This is like You guys are sad people This is a recurring thing that I see.

SPEAKER_01

See, and you know why? It's because you you must not have any joy there.

SPEAKER_00

They're not people who make videos. I I know there's never people who make videos.

SPEAKER_01

Why would you criticize someone's hobby? That's horrible. It's horrible.

SPEAKER_00

It's just a well it's not even like Marquez Brownlee, MKBHD, started using 8K cameras in 2017 or 2018. Nobody, YouTube wasn't even uploading 8K footage, it wasn't even possible. Nobody was viewing 8K footage back then, and he was still doing it because he wanted to. It was like his goal to just like be at this insane level of ridiculousness. That's why he'll spend a quarter of a million dollars on one robot arm that they use once a month. Because like that's just you could criticize that, but it's like that's I can't that is the driving like passion behind what lets them do what they do.

SPEAKER_01

This is a stuff that just breaks my heart. I like you shouldn't be on YouTube. Go away. If it's just for YouTube, why are you watching?

SPEAKER_00

Well, that that's always what what people say is like it's it's why are you watching YouTube if it's just for YouTube? Well, I was I was listening to an interview yesterday where people were talking about film school and they were like, Yeah, in my whole four years at film school, never once did the we had a whole they said they had a whole multi week Class on setting up tripods, which to be fair, I've done as a digital media teacher because it's very hard to teach people how to use tripods. But he said, never once did they even talk about YouTube as an outlet. Meanwhile, half the videos they showed us during the classes were YouTube videos, but that didn't even like it's it's this weird thing where people are like, I watched a blurry cat video on YouTube in 2005, that's what the website is for. Or something. I don't know. Anyway, I know you got your workshop coming up.

SPEAKER_01

I can't.

SPEAKER_00

I really liked yeah, I liked your passion over there.

SPEAKER_01

It's just a hamburger. That's my thing though. Hamburgers do matter. Do you know what I mean? And for for for you to like okay. Drew from the brew log, right? Someone who is not familiar with beer is gonna taste any beer and be like, it's beer, it's probably gross.

SPEAKER_00

This tastes like beer.

SPEAKER_01

There are are people who've been brewing beer for centuries, okay? This is a whole craft, there's a whole process of there's there's like different ways to flavor it. There, there are people dedicated their lives, generations of families, to to brew the greatest brew, in their opinion, okay? And for someone to be who has no idea to be like, yuck, it's just beer, it's like you don't know. Like, and and and even if you I don't know, it's like if that's how if someone wants to like dedicate their thing, like have that be their thing, then who cares, right? And the same is with YouTube. Like, if someone wants to just set up a webcam, that's all you need. Use your phone, it's fine, do whatever you want. But if someone also wants to swing in the other complete direction, which I mean you can look at Tom and I. Yeah, I hate, I don't hate it. I am not a gearhead. I'm not a gearhead. I just like literally, I don't I don't want to change anything. Tom is changing everything constantly, right? But I'm never gonna be like, gosh, Tom, yeah, why are it's just for you too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean it's a it's the beer thing too, because I can show up and be like, I'm not that into beer. Um like catch you over. But that doesn't mean someone's like, Yeah, but it's like I tell you that with coffee all the time because I don't drink coffee, and I'm like, I'm not a coffee person, but I get it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

I get I get why there are coffee people. It's just not me, but I I understand and I get it.

SPEAKER_01

Like you just must you just you just must be such a sad person to not to not s you know be happy about someone else's enthusiasm.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't care what you're enthusiastic about, but if you're if you're like giddying out over BTS or bikes or like anything. Yeah, I think that's cool. I hate bugs, but there are people who are all about them.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't know what the I don't know what the thing is. So it's like you can only invest in something if it's hitting a certain monetary level, if you have a certain level, like at what point is it okay to make the investment like you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Like, who are you to say? I can't. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

You did a very good rant. I love it.

SPEAKER_01

We are coming back. Really? No. Did you hear oh I have about a hundred Hawaiian shirts in my closet, and many have criticized me for that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I remember the I remember where I one day I wore a Hawaiian shirt to high school. And I say one day because yeah, I got ripped to shreds, not literally, but like I just thought it was really fun. I was super into real big fish and ska music. I was like, bright colored Hawaiian music. Yeah, it's really fun. Um, and I was just like, I found this Hawaiian shirt at the thrift shot, and I was like, this is super cool. And I wore it, I just was like, well, I'm never gonna do that again because yikes.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I so used to do this. I used to have my meetings at McDonald's, so I can write off the I can write off my McDonald's. We haven't been to McDonald's since we became vegetarian, but they're supposed to be coming out with a plant-based burger soon, so the McPlant. Uh let's see. I'm six feet, 150 pounds.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, for Nick, comments, ignorance is bliss. Few comments are fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, after that, I've just found that all the feedback wasn't adding value to my life. So I'm out.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it what I have found too is like I feel like my channel's right on the cusp of like not being able to read them all.

SPEAKER_01

There are billionaires that collect entries and comments. Their hobby, your law. Sorry. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

But there there are times where it's like, especially on those days where you just get tons and tons of comments, where I kind of feel like, I actually like I need to not be doing this so that I can keep doing what I like making a video or working on like doing the thing that even brought the comments in the first place. Like, like at a certain point, you just you can't. I'm not there, I'm not at that point, but at a certain point I know it it hits where you just you can't.

SPEAKER_01

You need to do what Nick does, your video comes out, I'm gonna set aside 20 minutes, brat, blast through comments, and then um if if it's a fine line because if the thing that you got into YouTube in the first place that like brought you joy and you're super excited about it, ends up turning into a thing that you know makes you feel negative, then now you're risking that passion, right? And that's horrible. And you have to be in control of that. Like you have to know your boundaries and yeah, hold and set them. Like the only person who could do that is you.

SPEAKER_00

Leo's here. I was telling Heather, because you you did a Twitter post where you were like, this is how I do my b-roll or whatever. It was like a behind-the-scenes.

SPEAKER_01

Literally, Leo. I almost went on Twitter to like reply to this. Tom told me that.

SPEAKER_00

Somebody's comment was like, step one, have money, and you were like, step point five, work for five years to get to a point with your skill set that you can use your equipment to like earn money to buy new equipment.

SPEAKER_01

Also, he's 14. Leo's 16. He's 16. Are you kidding me? Like, who cares? I was just like, Who cares? Like, this is a young person who is doing something that they're excited about and like has has obviously, has obviously like regardless of the equipment, you can tell there is an expertise there. Like, there's an experience.

SPEAKER_00

You can put that same equipment in someone else's hand, and it's not gonna do the same thing.

SPEAKER_01

And are you seriously going to just diminish and and like devalue it to I just can't, I can't. And I and the and he's 16. You're 16, Leo. For this grown-ass man to be like, I'm like, oh my god, I can't. Sorry. The why now I'm getting like mad. I have a workshop to teach in 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know what? Drew's more pumped for his channel than ever now because of you. Bailey says we need part two of this episode. Um, yeah, so actually next week, I don't know if we can have an episode because I'm not gonna be in town.

SPEAKER_01

He's not gonna be in town.

SPEAKER_00

So possibly we could do an early one, like on Tuesday. I don't know though. I don't know what my Tuesday looks like.

SPEAKER_01

We can do one on Tuesday.

SPEAKER_00

Possibly. So we'll schedule it in advance. If we're not gonna have a Thursday one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're not definitely not gonna have a Thursday one.

SPEAKER_00

If we decide to move it up, we'll schedule it in advance. So hit that bell notification to get notified of stuff. Um and then we'll yeah, we don't want to make any promises now because I don't even know what my schedule is next week.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, but we're definitely not gonna do it on Thursday. Um and yeah, I wouldn't want to do it without you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so we're supposed to do the singles table. No, yeah, right. Anyway. Heather's got a cool workshop in the Just Create More community that's happening right now, so it's time to clear this table so she can go over to the city.

SPEAKER_01

16 minutes, yeah. So if you want to join us, we're gonna be talking about eCamm Live, setting up your e camp to do interviews. Really, it's just setting up Ecamm. So um, if you've been putting that off, join us and we'll do it all from scratch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So uh thanks for being here. Thanks for your time, thanks for your uh empathy, your interview. Your comments, all those things. Hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your week. Take care, and we will see you next time.