The Couple's Table
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The Couple's Table
Overcoming Doubt and Finding Community Support
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This episode reflects on the intertwining themes of creativity, authenticity, and community within content creation. Tom and Heather navigate the challenges of self-doubt faced by many creators, the evolution of AI's influence, and the critical role of supportive communities in fostering creative expression.
• Addressing the balance between perfectionism and authenticity
• Discussing the impact of AI on content creation and the importance of realness
• Exploring the emotional journey of overcoming self-doubt in creative works
• Emphasizing the value of community support in creative pursuits
• Preparing for upcoming conventions and networking opportunities
• Navigating privacy and security concerns as a content creator
• Encouraging aspiring creators to share their voices and stories
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Saturday Live Stream Podcast Chat
Speaker 1hello and welcome.
Speaker 2My name is tom and I'm heather and you're sitting at the couple's table, the couple's table is a live stream podcast here on the channel.
Speaker 1Join us for better or worse, for rich or poor in sickness and in health sometimes on saturday, sometimes on saturdays.
Speaker 2Happy saturday everybody. How are you guys? Hello christian's here. Hello, freddie always is here. Hello friends in the pew. Saturday live stream. Oh yeah, so you could be here saturday live stream uh, tom and I were out of office all day at a leadership event yesterday, and I'm gonna actually be out of town next week, so we didn't want to skip this week.
Speaker 1I'm not sure what we're gonna do next yeah, there may or may not be an episode next week. Heather in remote reporting, remotely on the scene yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2Uh, bon is here. Hi, everyone, hope you're having a great weekend. It was good to see you, bon, in the discord. Uh, we were. We had some extra time before the couples table and so I was like, oh, let me just jump in here. But yeah, that was fun though. Uh, undecided toy store. Hey yo, everyone tinker daisy's here. Hello, hello, good to see you all. So what's up, tom?
Speaker 1I am a little tired you're tired today has been well. This has been a very busy week. We were gone all day yesterday. That ended up being a very long day yes, we sold jam-packed with info.
Speaker 2we volunteered, we uh packed uh food at the food bank. We made homeless kits for homeless people, like we did a lot.
Speaker 1It was a long day and then because of that it sort of pushed some work that I needed to do to the weekend and I, yeah, so this morning I filmed the video, did a rough cut edit of that video, recorded a podcast, podcast video podcast, uploaded it to youtube, upload and schedule it to youtube and buzzsprout. So the audio and video versions are done and now we're doing the stream you're a lot.
Speaker 2I am creator creating a lot of content today, let me tell you I don't know how- long my voice will last well what we can do, something to kind of soothe the throat with some Handles ice cream after Well.
Speaker 1I'm getting Mr Softy later.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1So I'm going to pass on the Handles today.
Speaker 2Oh boy.
Speaker 1Sometimes I've done both, but the scale's not liking that at the moment, so I'm going to not do that today.
Speaker 2Call me, call me in the house. Hey, hey, julie, happy Saturday to all on the east coast. You're so sad about the wildflowers.
Speaker 1Uh, flowers fires how close are you all? We're about two and a half hours out. Yeah, like driving. We're not close, but not close at all. We have a lot of family and friends in that area yes it's pretty much your whole. All your family and friends are in that area yeah.
Speaker 2So my parents, my dad, has been sending me videos of, like, the front yard and the backyard which, like it's not again, it looks close but it would take a lot for it to get over there which obviously, like you know so many. It's just been devastating to see. But when I see it it looks far enough where I'm like okay, I think it's okay well, there was an evacuation warning zone.
Speaker 1Sorry, oh canada. Not that I'm trying to turn down, oh canada, but there's a national anthem happening over there we have a hockey game on um the um. Wait, why are they doing? They're not in canada anyway. That's confusing. Neither team is Canadian. Why are they doing Anyway? Anyway, there was an evacuation warning that was creeping kind of close.
Speaker 2Yes, but now it's gone.
Speaker 1It crept back the other way, so hopefully it keeps going in that direction.
Speaker 2But apparently it's supposed to be windy again tonight, which is like, oh, that's scary. It's so scary because that's the thing about, like I have lived in LA my whole life. This time of year, when the winds the Santa Ana winds kick up, it's a very dry environment and then there's a fire and it's like the embers of a fire just fly with the wind and that's how it's able to bounce so fast and just spread and it just lands into more dry brush and it just goes and goes and goes and it's just it's crazy. It's crazy how fast it can go yeah, but it's this one's been insane yeah, so, uh, yeah, rick.
Speaker 2Happy saturday, hi, happy saturday to you too. So, um, how's the video podcast going?
Speaker 1it's fun. Um, I mean, I've only done the one episode, but actually did really really well, which is nice. It's fun to be able to get youtube comments on a podcast never done that before. Um, lots of people watched it, which was cool, and lots of good positive feedback and I feel like I'm getting a little more comfy with the workflow is really nice, because a thing that I wanted to do with it and I apologize if you heard me say this, so this is repetitive but I wanted to do a video version, but I didn't just want it to be, I didn't just want to do the one angle Cause this, like we, we started this live stream first as a stream, primarily to interact with people in real time, so this was a live stream. First as a stream primarily to interact with people in real time, so this was a live stream first, then a podcast.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, my podcast is the opposite. It's not live, it's pre-recorded. So there's no comment, there's no live audio first, yeah, and so it's, it's recorded.
Speaker 1And I didn't just want to record 60 to 90 minutes of just me talking. It was like there doesn't really need to be a video version, like it's a lot of work to do video, it's a lot of work to add that, to upload it, to process it, to do all the things. So if I was going to do video, I wanted it to be there to be a reason. So it's visual, like why someone, why is this in video format? So I put together like you know used.
Speaker 1Ecamm put together a whole bunch of scenes and graphics and overlays and I have like kind of like a keynote presentation that sort of goes through the episodes and the segments and all that stuff to sort of make it visual. But I also didn't want it to be overly visual because I know that most people don't just sit there glued to the screen for the whole time, for a 60 minute.
Speaker 1They're not watching most of it, they're glancing over from time to time. Or if it's something visual where you're like look at this, then people will look at the screen. For the most part, it's on in the background yeah so it's like this weird thing where, like it's visual, I want it to be visual, but I know people aren't actually watching most of it, so I don't want to spend, I don't want to do much stuff that no one's ever gonna right yeah so it's like finding that balance is really hard but I feel like I've done a good job.
Speaker 1Great keynote is really nice because I've been wanting to do segments for a long time so I kind of can just go through it and it keeps me on track, like without having to glance off at notes or whatever all the time. Um, yeah, it just keeps me off on track and by the time I was like at the end of it I was way over an hour today.
Speaker 2I was like jeesh, okay yeah, so actually, uh, speaking of segments, I was thinking about incorporating segments into Heddle Up.
Speaker 1Yeah, what segments?
Speaker 2I'm not sure, but I like the idea of just of having like a more coordinated structure versus like it's an hour, let's go with the flow.
Speaker 1Yeah, and some I've been experimenting with like not every segment needs to be in every episode. Yeah, so I have, like you know, a gear thing or a listener message thing or this topic, a behind the scenes youtube topic, whatever, but it's like I can, some just don't have to be in that week and depending yeah, because some I might know like oh, this kind of overlaps with that, or I don't have anything to say about that, or this is going to go on for a little bit longer, so let's take that out.
Speaker 1It's like it's kind of nice yeah it's like you just put these different puzzle pieces in oh, I love that yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2Andre, wait what now? Cool, happy Saturday, everyone hello. So if you guys don't know, we do have uh, I don't want to say newsletter. It's like an email list for the couples table. So we do put out reminders or give you a heads up if we're canceling or if we're moving it to another day. So it should be.
Speaker 1It's in the description, right.
Speaker 2In the description. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Nothing else gets sent out to that email list other than couples table notifications.
Speaker 2When we schedule it, we send out the link, or if we know we're not, you know like we're going to a leadership event or something like that, or we're going to be out of town, so, um, if you want updates about when the couple's table is going live, you can sign up for that. Uh email list. Josh, just sign by instead of just listening any dog walking happening yeah, no dog walking today.
Speaker 2Good to see you, josh. Um well, let me see what I was gonna say. So in the past week for my stuff yeah, what have you been up to? Um, I felt like our last episode of the couple stable really had an impact on me.
Navigating Imperfections
Speaker 2Yeah, in terms of like the ai discussion and, um, I don't know why it. I don't, I don't know, I don't know why things for some reason aligned where now I have a completely different take on my own content, which is so funny because I didn't you know, I didn't come to the, to the breakthrough, until after we had our talk. But, you know, I think I became really conscious of the idea of like we are in a world in terms of content creation, where AI is now maturing right. Like I think we have a long way to go, but it's not a new thing anymore. We've done tons of experiments, we've seen like this is now. You know, I think we have a long way to go, but it's not a new thing anymore. We've done tons of experiments. We've seen like this is now. You know, I think I don't think it would be a stretch to say that everybody here watches one AI video, whether they know it or not.
Speaker 1A week.
Speaker 2A day like in your social media, like I think there's, you know, some kind of AI, ai, like either it's a voiceover or it's a the actual imagery or something yeah, something like that. Like you know, and I think that's just, if it's not, if we're not there, we're gonna be there real soon yeah, there was a hockey tournament recently locally, which is cool.
Speaker 1Like I don't fault anyone for this, but it's. You know, when you do have a tournament, sometimes people do their existing teams. Some people make up teams for the tournament and so many of the teams jersey big ai can absolutely tell the logos are ai logos, which I mean, of course. Like you don't have graphic designers just doing a team. You're like give me a.
Speaker 2You know, whatever this animal is as a hockey team logo, that it was clip art, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah or just the default thing that like the jersey company, yeah, like out of the templates, yes, you know, uh, but just the default thing that like the jersey company.
Speaker 2Yeah, like out of the templates.
Speaker 1Yes, you know uh, but it's interesting. It's interesting, it was just interesting, I don't know it didn't happen last year well, so um just.
Speaker 2But because of that it's changed how you approach the kind of the stuff you're making because here's the thing, right, like as a human being, I have highs and I have lows, I have lows, I have ups and I have downs. There are times where I'm super motivated. There are times where I feel like, oh my God, I can make 10 videos today. And then there's videos where I just are not videos. But there's days where I just feel like what am I doing? What am I saying? Like I'll make a video, I'll try to edit it, and I'm like this is dumb, like I wouldn't watch this, nobody's going to watch this. Like I just kind of talk myself out of it. And one of those videos was a video I put out I don't know yesterday, the day before it was about in our discords around my gaming channel. I made a channel to do community highlights right, because I wanted to provide an outlet where the people in Discord can also highlight things that they thought were cool, that was happening in the community, and it didn't just have to be only me, because of course I'm going to share, like this was super cool and this was super cool and look at this thing that we did, and like that was really funny and this is a special memory and all those things. But it's like, look at this thing that we did and like that was really funny and this is a special memory and all those things. But it's like I'm not the only one having these experiences and I don't want people to have to wait until I talk about it, until everyone else can talk about it.
Speaker 2I wanted there to be an outlet where it's like you might I might not even be there, right Like you guys could be hanging out in game. Well, here's, here's a place like a bulletin board, a scrapbook, um, where people can contribute screenshots and shout outs and highlights and whatever, um. And so I didn't know how this was gonna go. In theory, I'm like you know the teacher can put together an activity, but it's kind of like you gotta see how the kids take to it, you know. So I was like I don't know, I have no idea. I have no idea. Is it a bunch of penises drawings? Like I have no idea, right? Um? And of course it wasn't that, because we're mature adults and are we though?
Speaker 2and, if anything, it was like it was really nice, right. So I, I um, you know we talked about this last week, but december was insane, so this was a november. I made this in November. I didn't get around to recording the video until December. I couldn't get myself to edit it until after the month was over because it was so insane. And then by the time I was editing it, I was like I started editing it before a couple of people episode last week. I was like this is so rambly, this is dumb, this is outdated, this is like I don't know, is it special? I don't, does anyone care? Like, does this?
Speaker 1matter.
Speaker 2Lots of second guessing, questioning literally, I was like you know what, maybe I'll just post it to the discord, like I won't even put it out there. I just, I don't know, it feels like it feels like it's grinding things to a halt for some reason I don't know, that was just the impression I had.
Speaker 2And then we had the AI discussion and I. The big takeaway from the AI discussion was that for non AI creators human creators, right Like it it's about the rawness, the realness, the, the, the authenticity, the imperfections, the, that like. That's the part that makes it human.
Speaker 1Human intelligence high instead of AI.
Speaker 2Yes, right, and so I re-edited it not re-edited it, but I went back to editing it after that discussion and I was like, oh my God, this is that Like this. The reason why I'm hesitating is because of all these imperfections, but it's these imperfections that make it real sure, and so I put out the video. I was very nervous, um, and of course, I lost subscriber, which I knew was gonna happen, because it's it's so like you either get it or you don't. And if you don't get it, it's like, okay, I'm out, right. But the people who got it right the the comments that I got. I was like, oh my god, I'm so glad that I yes put this out.
Speaker 2So I lost subscribers on youtube, but we gained members in the discord server which is exactly like you know, strengthened existing relations yeah, like I don't care about the subscribers, I do care about the community. That were you know that I am a part of right, like I, I want, like this is the reason why I'm doing it and so, um, so yeah, that was a really nice uh yeah, that's way cool it was great to have that discussion and then have a tangible example of it happening, just especially like early on in the year, where I can be like, okay, anytime, I second guessed myself.
Speaker 2That's actually a good thing, that second guessing is what a machine won't do right. Right, because the machine doesn't feel doubt, it doesn't feel anxiety. Where I'm like, I don't know this is good enough, I don't know.
Speaker 2So, um yeah, my uh actually bon who's here is uh a really bon person, like so many of the people, like a lot of the people here who are coming from the heather, just play channel. All of you guys are, um, kind of my litmus test. But also a big person who is a litmus test is G-Ma Grandma Daniels. So Grandma Daniels is a subscriber on my gaming channel. She's 73 years old, playing Final Fantasy 14. I think she's literally the oldest gamer that I know, because I don't know anybody who's that old that plays.
Speaker 1Beyond, like a mobile tap game, like a Candy Crush type situation.
Speaker 2Well, even that Like who.
Speaker 1I mean, I know lots of you know. I know my stepdad plays like stuff on the tablet no, not like Solitaire.
Speaker 2Yeah Well, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1I don't know it's a video game, right.
Speaker 2Okay, yes, it is.
Speaker 1I'm just saying we're getting technical, but I think I know what you mean, like a gamer, like yeah yeah, a gamer, exactly. Yeah, if you told him like you can't do this, and you're like okay, yeah, not like a gamer, someone who's like paying money for this hobby.
Speaker 2You know right, that's that's what I'm talking about. And, um, she, she's just so freaking thrilled Every time I put out any video. She just loves it. She's there all the time and I really use her as an example of like. You don't strike me as a person who's watching the other gamers that I see.
Speaker 1Sure.
Speaker 2There's obviously something here that you're gravitating towards, and so, and yeah, I just, I don't know that's special yes, thank you it's very special, there you go all right, let's check in. Let's see, josh. Thanks for your help. Heather too, ps keen for tom's video in the works too.
Speaker 1I don't know which one I have so many. Oh, though, maybe the one I did today.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, uh, kathy, saturday all Nice treat Is the first video episode out already it is.
Speaker 1It came out last week on Monday, so I don't have 100 subscribers so I can't get the official URL, so you have to go to youtubecom.
Speaker 2Oh, that's why it doesn't work.
Speaker 1You can do slash at enthusiasm project and it will work. Oh, it's right. Yeah, it's right, yeah, it's right there, this one.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is the first episode. Yes, okay, the other one comes out every Monday. I'm putting the first episode in the chat.
Speaker 1There you go. Yeah, it is unedited. The closest I do to edit is I can do the pause thing in Ecamm. It's kind of nice.
Speaker 2Take a break, yeah.
Speaker 1Which is actually very nice, because what you can do I can talk on this shot It'll blah, blah, blah, blah blah, click pause and then switch to the scene with my keynote presentation up and then hit resume and it just looks like I switched scenes. It doesn't look like a jump cut, so I can do real time.
Speaker 2I see you. Yeah, I see you. It's nice. Let's see Rio Pel Room. Hey there, home Sigmac.
Speaker 1Hi, good to see you. Homesick mac broussard to the house. What's up? What's up, all right. So to that ai conversation. I actually made a couple of videos also after we had that discussion last week okay, tell me on my second channel, not my podcast channel, which is not my third channel, because that's how it works welcome to the third youtube channel, life um, on my second channel I uploaded two bass covers.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Yes.
Overcoming Nervousness Through Music Covers
Speaker 2Huge leaps.
Speaker 1I was more nervous for those videos than.
Speaker 2You have been in for any video in a really long time. Yeah, I finished your sentence. Yeah.
Speaker 1I mean, I had the same feeling of like when I upload, like my first videos to YouTube where it's like, oh my God, there's a video out there and I'm in the video, what do I do, oh my God.
Speaker 2Oh, when I upload, like my first videos, to YouTube where it's like, oh my god, there's a video out there and I'm in the video. What do I do? Oh my god. So this coming from a guy who has who's literally road creator of the year 150,000 subscribers. Why? So why were you nervous?
Speaker 1I, I am. I started playing guitar in 2001. It's 2025, that's a long time ago. I am deeply insecure about my musical abilities. I do not feel I feel like if I played for you and you're like oh, you started like six, that's a long time ago. I am deeply insecure about my musical abilities. I do not feel I feel like if I played for you and you're like oh you started like six months ago.
Speaker 2Good for you, oh my God, no, okay, I've never said that, I've never thought that.
Speaker 1But that's how I feel and it's like 20 some odd years and you know I have all these nice instruments and stuff which I love and they bring me ton of joy and I have like my aspirations aren't much beyond like bedroom jamming you don't have to justify.
Speaker 2I know exactly for music.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying, yeah, but I've always been nervous, like as soon as there's another set of eyeballs that's not like ben lee or corgi watching me play I nerves and sweat and I mess up and I just can't do it. Um, but I always I love watching people do covers. It's just, you know, like sometimes they don't even take out, like if you're doing a bass and I just can't do it. But I always I love watching people do covers. It's just, you know, like sometimes they don't even take out, like if you're doing a bass thing, they don't even take out the original bass track, they just play bass along with a song. Sometimes they can take out the isolated instrument track and replace it with theirs. I love watching those because I love seeing how other people are playing it for real. I've seen what it sounds like. You it for real. I've seen what it sounds like. You know, it's very.
Speaker 1It's different than like listening to what someone did in a studio many, many years ago with professional, all the things like I don't know, how can a person, how do you, how do you actually do this? So I've always kind of wanted to do them but I've been scared and after our thing last week I was like I really want to do this, and I want to do it because I want to get more comfortable playing in front of people, which, like I'm still I'm not playing in front of anyone because it's just the camera, but I'm playing in front of people because it could be anybody watching. I want to figure out how to do this. Like I was genuinely like, how could I do this in a way that doesn't require, like a ton of editing? And I wanted to, kind of going back to the AI conversation, I wanted to go into the thing of like this does not have to be perfect, because I've tried to record music in the past and it's like and anyone who has like, you want every take to be perfect, and so if there's a slight buzz or a wrong note or just anything doesn't sound perfect.
Speaker 1Like redo, redo, redo. I'm like no, no, no, I'm not doing that, I am know I'm not doing that, I am. I want to sit there and I want to sit there. I want to introduce the song, like why I'm doing the song, what song it is, what instrument I'm using to play, like I'm using this bass that I got at this time, or whatever, and then just play it, and there's gonna be mistakes in it. It's basically all just one. Take um and I found a very good workflow that, like literally you know, a four minute song can take 10 minutes to make the video okay it's very, very quick, um, and then there's basically no editing.
Speaker 1Like you've seen how quick it could be and it has been so awesome. Like I'm just so happy that those videos exist, even though they are imperfect. I'm not playing them, because I think my playing so amazing, people need to see it, or anything, um, but yeah, it's been really nice, it's been really cool to do that.
Speaker 2I don't think I would have done that without our discussion last wow see, that just goes to show like I think in well so many things, but I think a big thing is in creating content consistently. This is where you break through the things that hold you back. You know, and it might take years I take years, but like as long as you, sometimes it's like somebody can tell you you have nothing to be nervous about, tom like just do it, but I'm not going to not be nervous Like I have to do, you know.
Speaker 2You have to come to the breakthrough on your own.
Speaker 1I think I've told the story. But, like when I was doing student teaching, I had to buy special sweat pads you put under your arm of your like dress shirt, because I would just so scared and nervous and sweat so much. And then not even by the end but I mean like by I don't know, it took a while by my second year of teaching it was like no, I didn't need that anymore I know it's so hard when people are just like just don't be nervous that's not how that works.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah especially when you're having a physical reaction yeah, I can't control, can't control it um so, uh, I'm curious, is this a like? Because for me, what I've noticed is that these things do feel like switches flipped and then all of a sudden. I'm never nervous again yeah do you? Does it feel like that to you, or are you still like?
Speaker 1I think it. No, no, it's not. I think it will. It's a, it's a fader maybe rather than a switch, because the other thing too that's happening like that made me feel good and I'm having fun like figuring it out and I also feel like a lot of instrument covers are like someone with their phone kind of set up like a weirdly framed thing. So I'm like, okay, I can make something that actually looks good, like most people.
Speaker 2You click the thing and it's just them playing it.
Speaker 1Some of it doesn't even show the face or anything. I'm like okay, I want to actually have like a talking intro. So I feel like there's enough to make it actually a little bit different, which is cool. But also it is the thing like, because it goes out to anyone or whatever, there's the initial wave of people who wow, this is very cool, blah, blah, blah. And now then there's people like I got I showed you a comment that said you suck period you suck period that's all I have people say, like you know, this part of the song is totally jacked up, like this is totally wrong.
Speaker 1Why are you doing it this way? It's and it's all you know, all that kind of stuff and I obviously that's going to happen, but that's like it's so funny, you have to get this is like a completely unrelated thing, but I am curious if I was the one playing.
Speaker 2I bet all those comments are from dudes. Oh yeah, 100 is that weird?
Speaker 1yeah, no, if you, if you were playing, it would probably be very different types of comments, um well, I think it would be like good job, like you're almost.
Speaker 2Yeah, that part's really good yeah, you try doing this, you know it wouldn't be like you suck. It'd be like. It wouldn't be like this part's jacked up.
Speaker 1It would be like oh, let me, let me mansplain it to you why is that?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1Whatever, that's a separate discussion well, and that's the thing too. Is with that like yeah, obviously I'm no stranger to negative comments or whatever, but it's hard when it's like oh, here's a negative comment about a thing you're already insecure about I know it took you so long yeah, but I mean I, get to the point where you put that video I wasn't going to. I was aware that I was expecting those putting the thing out, because that's the thing, the thing.
Speaker 2That's funny, though, and that's why I feel like I you know, this is the thing that holds everyone back from making youtube videos in the first place.
Performance Anxiety and Jump Rope
Speaker 1Yeah, well, but that's the thing is like. I feel like I have actually done a good job of um addressing this beforehand by specifically saying like this I'm not showing off my playing, I'm just playing a song that I like. I'm leaving in mistakes, I'm not editing them out or cutting things out. So it's like if you know that and if if you listen to the couple seconds of context at the beginning and you still make that comment, you're already an ass, like you're already just straight up wrong. Um, and then the. The weird thing is I was like I this these are jealous comments. Not that you're jealous of me, but it's the thing. It's the feeling I get is I don't even care, like you know, be someone like mac in the homesick mac in the comments who's like you play on stages in front of all kinds of people, like you are an accomplished, I'll say, magician musician um, but these people they're not.
Speaker 1Maybe they're doing that, but right now the feeling I would bet that they have that pops up is I can play better than him Like this and he's making a video like I'm better, he sucks worse than me and it's OK, but you didn't make the video Well go make your video Exactly that's my thing, and that's the thing where you you know I like a lot of uh bands and stuff that have relatively simple songs where it's like, oh, that green day song is the same three chords over and over.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is, did you write it, though you didn't. I hate that.
Speaker 1Oh, it kills me yeah, it's like, where's your song? Yeah, it's so simple.
Speaker 2Where's your song?
Speaker 1it seems like everybody kind of enjoys it and I don't think you made it. So yeah, it is okay. Fine, that's like. Peanut butter and jelly sandwich is only like three ingredients bread, peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is, it's great bon, says my daughter and I really enjoyed watching those cover music videos.
Speaker 1You made tom music videos, that's me it's so funny, though, because way, way back in like middle school and high school, one of the things I want to do the most and this wasn wasn't even like actually playing, but I thought it'd be so cool. This is keeping in mind, like barely moving into iMovie 1 from like tape editing. Like the first time I edited on a computer, I was like I think it could be possible to like literally put like four things where I'm playing drums guitar bass.
Speaker 1Like doing all the things at once which is a very common like that is I'm talking 1999, 2000. That was a little different of an idea than I was like it'd be so cool if I could ever do something like that. It's like okay, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2I actually sorry you made me think of like I don't remember what my first digital video was that I edited. I definitely was still editing on tape in eighth grade.
Speaker 1Do you remember what your first edit like? What you edited on? Was it like iMovie or?
Speaker 2I don't. I think there was a Windows like movie maker.
Speaker 1That's definitely a thing.
Speaker 2I don't know so interesting. I have no idea. Kathy, sometimes a bit of nervousness is needed to get the right endorphins to perform at your best.
Speaker 1Oh see, kathy, sometimes a bit of nervousness is needed to get the right endorphins to perform at your best. See, well, I do remember like I've had students um, there's even times like I've even done job interviews in the past where I was interviewing someone. I've had students do interviews to be in programs, be part of groups or whatever and sometimes they're really nervous, and I'm someone who gets nervous a lot and sometimes students will apologize because they're nervous and I'll tell them like it's totally okay to be nervous. I actually like that.
Speaker 2You're nervous because it's it tells me that you care yeah like this actually means something to you yeah, uh, let's see. What we need is a collab video with heather playing baseball. Tom jumps the road. Oh no, no, scratch that, flip it or maybe not jumping the rope, skipping the rope I could lay it on the ground and step over it everyone wants to see you jump rope no, they don't.
Speaker 1You think you do, you don't, it's just. It's just this, until I hit the rope a couple times. Yeah, I did a uh this once or twice when you were showing me how to do it, where you can like cross it yeah, it's jump roping, isn't?
Speaker 2um, when someone explains to you the basics, it's actually very easy, but if you're just looking at it, it's like you just focus on jumping over the rope, because obviously that's what it's called. But like if someone explains to you like it's you know, like the number one fundamental thing for me is like you don't focus on jumping over the rope, don't focus on jumping over the rope, you focus on keeping your arms by your pockets because that, if you you start, you will every normal human being will have the impulse to, because your arms get tired from holding it down here. They start going up and when you bring your arms up, the rope gets shorter and then you trip. You know, if someone like explains, I feel like, oh, it's like yeah, that makes sense obviously doing the other things is a whole different thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, playing bass is just you put your finger on a part where there's a note and then you just oh psh.
Speaker 2No, I know, but that's. That is not a simple thing.
Speaker 1Because also, watching you jump rope is the thing where you can see just the way even that you move the rope, that you hold the rope in between.
Speaker 2Because Heather also did a jump rope video this week, by the way, which was another video I almost scrapped. Yeah, do you know how many I jump rope like all the time? You know it's not, it's not like a big deal, and that that's what I was telling myself.
Speaker 1This is I play bass. All the time worth sharing.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, oh, it's not worth sharing, because I do it all the time. There's nothing remarkable about it.
Speaker 1I don't but the way like the way that you jump I was even in a bad mood that day the way that you use your jump rope. You can just tell it's somebody who has so many hours with this thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I had a few comments. It was like you could tell, you could see the practice.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, you can tell. This isn't something that anyone can do in a day or two.
Speaker 2Yeah, which is why I'm glad I put out the video, and it's because we have that AI discussion.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Speaker 2Gil's here. What's up? Happy Saturday everyone.
Speaker 1James and Mark, plus one vote to Tom Jumping Rope. It's so not. It's like. You know, there's movies that are bad and they're entertaining because they're so bad.
Speaker 2No, you look like a normal person jumping rope for the first time.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2It's just, it's so nothing exceptionally bad, it's just like oh okay, he, he is jumping rope.
Speaker 1Anyway, it's just like nothing. It's like when a movie's bad. It's just.
Speaker 2This is just bad, it's not entertaining it's funny because, like the place, my favorite place to practice jumping rope is at the gym and I think I've told told this on the couple's table. But in every gym there is a line of treadmills right and sometimes there's a line of like the exercise bikes. The turf I like to jump in on is right in front of that entire line of treadmills and bikes and sometimes it's like, literally this is the distance between the person that's on the bike and me jumping. I'm very careful, like, not to whip people in the face, um, but like I think I don't know, it's just, it's funny because I there is a it makes me actually jump better when I know people are watching. I know I'm not assuming that they're watching I'm assuming they're on their phone.
Speaker 2I'm assuming they're watching tvs, you know but it's like yes for some reason, like with people there, like if I just jump in the living room, it's just.
Speaker 1It's like see, I need to get to that point at the base because the thing a couple months back I made a video about how to do mic'd up sports videos, where I was like, because I had done some mic'd up hockey videos both for me and other people, where I put microphones on them during games and stuff, yeah, edit together, um, what I've noticed for myself and other people and everyone I might have said is they play better when they're like that and it's, there's, I mentioned it in the video and there's even a clip of someone I mic'd up in the video where someone's like, oh, great thing.
Speaker 1She's like, thank you, it's the microphone, that's so funny it's like I, and I think it's because you're sort of like so why is?
Speaker 2How come there's like a stage fright for some things and then an opposite for others? Is that?
Speaker 1Well see, I don't know. I know, at least for me, when it comes to being mic'd up, a good thing is I play my worst hockey. When I'm paying too much attention, ah okay. And so when I'm mic'd up, I'm more aware of what I'm saying. I think there's a part of my brain at least I don't know how it works for other people there's a part of me that's like oh, like, be entertaining, like if you have a thought that's kind of goofy, don't have the thought, say the thought.
Speaker 2Like and so I think I'm kind of focusing on like that versus like oh, I let a puck in, or something.
Speaker 1Well, square, shoulder square toes okay, this, what angle come out. Angle here, this, go there. Versus like if I'm thinking about that, then it's just like okay, catch the thing.
Speaker 2Like like you're not even I think a part you're not up in your head I think a part of it for me is that, like I mess up so much and messing up in front of people over and, over and over, I think is really good training yeah, well, you even left mistakes in your jump rope video yeah, I was unedited for that purpose because I think I did it after you did your bass cover and I was like he did it. I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Unedited, you know.
Speaker 1And it's not because I want to waste someone's time like watch all these mistakes, because I don't care.
Speaker 2But it's like it was just like every freaking reel was just like. I can't do this, I can't do it.
Speaker 1That's why your thing is your thing's awesome Cause you see that you're good, you, you jump, you, you know you jump and you do really cool stuff. Then you make a mistake and then you get back into it. So you see all of it. You see the mistakes, you see the expertise, you see the experience, you see the like overcoming, and that's very real I definitely had the thought of like, okay, I should choreograph something and then drill it, so it's perfect.
Speaker 2And I'm like, but I don't actually want to do that though yeah, well, you know, it's like the thing with bass songs too.
Speaker 1Like I'm playing songs that I I might not play perfectly, I might mess up while I'm playing them out of nerves and stuff, but I know how, but I have fun. I also do know how to play the songs. They're not. They're not songs, I learned that morning, or anything right, so so I can kind of like use a little bit of muscle memory. Think about the camera recording, think about the audio, whatever that's so funny.
Speaker 2Yeah, uh, okay, let's see the audio. Whatever. That's so funny. Yeah, uh, okay, let's see. Andre, I tried jump roping in my studio after your video heather, using an audio cable. It's been 30 years since I tried it last, so exhausting using an audio cable.
Speaker 1It's so funny, he's an xlr jump rope uh, let's see, come on, tom, jump rope.
Speaker 2At least it's not double dutch. I haven't, obviously I haven't double dutched in forever, because we you know it's just us yeah, I remember being really good, though in uh you have like the rhymes that people say like we actually went on tour. Oh yeah, we went to other like uh elementary school, like as part of the pe program. The middle school, like I was what was your crew's name?
Speaker 1it was just like the pe class or whatever. Jump to the sky, or something.
Speaker 2It was like a jumper. I swear there was like a program like that was sweeping the nation at at that time in the 90s and it was. It was like a program and then they, it was like you would teach it to people and then they would go to other schools and teach it and then they would implement it like so I don't know sounds like a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 1I don't know yo-yos are big. At my school that was, but I didn't teach us that every year there was like a new thing. You know yo-yos are a big thing one year and there was the duncan yo-yo like crew that would go around and perform. It was like trained yo-yo profession which actually came out once.
Speaker 1I saw the aquabats play the duncan you know duncan yo-yos like oh, I thought you meant like, not like donuts, yeah but like d-u-n-c-a-m, not k-i-n oh, duncan, got it, got it yeah they and I actually once I saw the aquabats and in the middle of the show they were like all right, we're gonna take a break. The dunkin yo yo west cruise west coast crew or whatever, and like 15 people came on stage just doing these insane yo-yo tricks we tried getting into yo-yo.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's fun, yo-yos are way fun. Tom tom got a yo-yo like I don't know two years ago or something you were like really trying to do a little the walk, the dog or whatever.
Speaker 1Yeah I just want to be able to bust out like a cool thing, a cool skill, you know ernesto.
National Association of Broadcasters Convention Announcement
Speaker 2Happy saturday, guys. Duncan, yo-yos to the jump rope pyramids game. Oh man, ah. So what's up, tom? What else is going on?
Speaker 1what else is going on, uh?
Speaker 2What else is going on NAB? We going.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2We should tell people.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean I don't know the exact dates or whatever, but heck yes.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1I think actually they sent out a thing that early pre-registration is available if you want to like request registration.
Speaker 2Yeah, so On their website. Obviously, like for many, for a couple of years, tom and I were like we're going to go NAB, you know, and then by the time we tell everybody it's like three weeks before. So we're telling everybody now Tom and I are going to NAB. If you want to come, you should totally go. It's a well. Actually, you can talk about what it is.
Speaker 1It's the National Association of Broadcasters Convention in Las Vegas, Nevada, in April. It is huge, Like there are workshops and sessions and stuff of course, but there's also like the exhibition floor where it's just I mean, you need a couple of days to get through the whole thing if you wanted to like actually like hit up everything.
Speaker 2I will say it is traditionally been industry focused in terms of like.
Speaker 1Broadcast industry.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. So I would say I don don't know. Half of it is fascinating but probably relevant to content creators, but they are, as of last year, having dedicated scheduling programming spaces that are specifically for, you know, content creators, youtube youtubers, tiktok people, blah, blah, blah yeah, and for many, for many years now.
Speaker 1Uh, brands and stuff that that are associated that we all know have been there, like road and dji and black magic and um bnh and all you know, like all of those kinds of companies, shores, they're like everything elgato, they're all there and you can see stuff. You can see new products. A lot of companies announce new products at nab.
Speaker 2So you can check, you can like yeah, dj had their drone cage there and yeah, dj, has the drone cage black magic had like the biggest booth? They had the biggest. They were the title sponsor, so they that was nuts they had like uh uh sets with paid actors, so that you can like so did sony.
Speaker 1Sony had like the crazy, like a bar scene and the whole thing. Yeah, with a, with a pool table.
Speaker 2It was nuts. Yeah, it's really cool, it's cool.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's a lot of content creators. I feel like there's going to be more this year.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean it's fun because you can run into people that you know.
Speaker 2You can see people from the companies, you can talk, you can literally ask the people who work there and they can tell you and all the people that work there just say and work with the content creators, so, um, yeah, it's a great place to introduce yourself. Do some networking if you want yeah, I always feel strange.
Speaker 1I've never been someone who, like reaches out. I always wait to be reached out to by companies. I never reach out. But, um, this is a place where reaching out is not would not be weird.
Speaker 2Yeah, right, it's the appropriate venue like that's what they're there for, yeah exactly. Uh, let's see, jump ropes was all rage back in elementary school and all the kids did it. Then we saw some new york and california kids doing the double ropes mind blown wait, sorry, I just saw youromega X-Brain and I actually remember this. I still have my Yomega X-Brain from the 90s. What the heck is that?
Speaker 1It was Yomega. I forgot about Yomega.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1Because Duncan, I think was done.
Speaker 2Core memory unlocked.
Speaker 1Yeah, Yomega, oh my God.
Speaker 2I can like like.
Speaker 1I see it, I feel like I've had one. Sorry, my mind is Blown cause, yeah, there's. Are you a Duncan kid or are you a Yomega?
Speaker 2Oh man Tin I get to be, here for a podcast thing, anything for my favorite married beans, aw Tin. Good to see you, cirilla, attending the creator chat. Can you guys share any Encour, encouragement for others to get into content creation? Some of us want to in some capacity but are more introverted. So yes, cirilla, I'm glad you're here. We can, we could. We should probably do a dedicated, like just getting started episode.
Speaker 1Oh, that'd be fun, that'd be way fun. How would you answer this?
Speaker 2question. I mean, if you listen dedicated, like just getting started episode, oh, that'd be fun, that'd be way fun, yeah, um, how would you answer this question?
Speaker 1um, I mean, if you listen, if you were here, and we're talking about like the things like my bass videos and your jump rope video and stuff. I think that talked about a lot like negative comments and those kinds of things. Um, the the the reality is at the beginning, like you are the one who's in your way the most, especially with something like YouTube. I don't know a lot about other platforms, but YouTube, like, it's easy to think like, oh my God, there's negative comments. Even I'd mentioned my base videos got negative comments, but they were already on a channel. Second channel has a couple thousand subscribers. Like there's, like it's already on a thing with an audience.
Speaker 1When you're just starting out, the reality is no one's really going to be watching, no one's going to watch for a while, and the few people that do like when it pops up, when a brand new channel with a brand new video happens to pop up in someone's feed and they happen to watch it, I cannot imagine that person being like I'm going to leave the first comment on a channel and it being negative. I've never even really heard of that happening channel and it being negative like I've never even like really heard of that happening. Yeah, so you're probably going to. Actually it's. It's a much safer environment than you would expect, I think, when you're just starting out.
Speaker 1Of course depends on what you make, like. If you're doing crazy, crazy hot takes or controversial things, it might be a little different. I don't feel like that's what you would be doing. Um, so you're probably going to find it at the beginning it's less about what other people are are reacting and more about you just getting comfortable doing it, making the thing, recording the thing, putting it out there, yeah, like who cares about who's watching?
Speaker 2and strategy and monetization and figure out how to grow your audience. It's about you building a comfort being someone who creates content.
Speaker 1Yeah, someone who creates content, yeah, and then when you, um, when you start getting people to watch your stuff, the first people are going to be some of the most supportive. Um, so it's like that. That initial stage, which feels very scary, is is, and it makes sense that it is, but it is actually the one of the safest times.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean you're doing something new.
Speaker 2So it's like uh, it is going to feel awkward and uncomfortable and uh, you know, strange and weird, but like it that you're at level one you know, like and you will be surprised that when you start, when you're like I'm gonna make a video, you kind of do level up really fast, like all of a sudden you're like I don't know what to make a video about. For me it was like was like when I made my first couple of videos, everything was a video idea. After that I was like oh, my this, this, this, this, this, this, that.
Speaker 1And then like you're definitely turns on the floodgates.
Speaker 2The thing that you, you know, everything that's holding you back now are, will start to be the things that you're your next set of holding you back, kind of thing. Yeah, the thing that I would say is, yeah, content creation, like to me, is just like an art. It's like any other art form right, it's just the new art form, but like, um, like a writer is going to write, a painter is going to paint. You know we are creating digital content, but at the end of the day, it's your voice, it's your story, it's your perspective, it's your, your enthusiasm that you are sharing.
Speaker 1No-transcript thank you, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 1Yesterday we were learning about food waste and people were like, oh, we're obligated to donate so much food before it goes to the landfill and I was like, from landfill to hand fill? Huh, anyway, go ahead to what you're saying.
Speaker 2He looked at me and I was like from landfill to hand fill, huh. Anyway, go ahead with what you were saying.
Speaker 1He looked at me and I was like he's proud. I had to whisper it to you in the audience.
Speaker 2Yeah. So if anyone's like, stop with the intentional bug planning. It's not intentional, he just does it, yeah, so what I would? So here's my number one recommendation I tell this to every new content creator is to do the 10-day tackle.
Speaker 2the 10-day tackle is a challenge I came up with a very long time ago oh my gosh, at least six years yeah, where, basically, you create content every day for 10 days straight, like make a video every single day for 10 days straight, you will like break through so many of the things holding you back. You'll forcing yourself to like make something. It's just such good practice, but it's long enough where it doesn't like you actually feel like you learned something, but it's not.
Speaker 2It's short enough where it doesn't feel like I'm doing a 30 day year long thing, yeah, like you can feel the light at the end of the tunnel, um, and it's just like you won't regret it. It'll answer so many of your questions and like, even going to what you said of you know, some of us are introverted. I would say I'm introverted, tom's introverted, like it's not about whether you know, of course extroverts have an advantage, I think, but also it is different because at the end of the day, you're talking to an inanimate object. You know, I think extroverts feed off of people, like in real life.
Speaker 1A lot of online creators are more introverted and quiet yeah.
Speaker 2There's people who don't show their face Like there's. You know, there's so many ways to do it, so don't think that, because you're introverted, that that is a disadvantage. I don't think it is Right. All right, cool, ernesto. Did you guys see any consumer electronics that caught your eye? Ces 2025.
Speaker 1I haven't paid any attention, actually Same. So, I haven't paid any attention, actually Same, so I haven't seen anything. Nab is CES for content creators, Basically for audio video content creators. Yeah, the production side of things, for sure yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy Doc's here.
Navigating Negative Comments and Support
Speaker 2Hi, good to see you. You know what con I'm looking forward to? The enthusiasm con, con-thusiasm, the con, the long con, or like, who's gonna go to the enthusiasm con? I'd go to the enthusiasm con I would go I don't know if I'd go to conthusiasm. Uh, what was our thing? The air fryer emporium the air fryer emporium.
Speaker 1Yeah, don't own that domain, by the way so true do you?
Speaker 2yeah, wow, uh, andre. Second, that first commenters are positive. My experience as well. Hell, even now, 20 plus vids and 700 subs, I haven't gotten any real negative comments some smarty pants, but nothing negative, right, yeah?
Speaker 1yeah, and that's, and that's. The thing too is like the people who are like overtly like here's just a bunch of profanity, here's whatever.
Speaker 2That almost like it doesn't mean anything. Those are so easy to ignore. Yeah, cause it's just like. It's like the crazy person like yelling in the room. It's like you, just it's so you, it's not about me, yeah. Or it's not about you, it's about them.
Speaker 1Right yeah.
Speaker 2And those are easy, it's. It's the ones that are like. I can't explain it, but you won't get those in the beginning, so you don't even have to.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Like I got a call, ok, so here's an example, right, that you would appreciate. I made a video about can you play Final Fantasy 14 solo? Because I was a person who didn't want to play an MMO. I didn't want to play with other people. The first time, the first time I played Final Fantasy XIV and I was trying to encourage people like me To give it a try. Yeah, like, this is an incredible story and it is a super fun game. But if you're scared of playing with other people, you could do 99% of it solo. You just have to kind of get through that Crystal Tower series. But then once you do that, like you know, it's like fun.
Speaker 2Um, I let, I had somebody leave me the longest essay of, like I wish people like you would go away. You're the people who are making, uh, the devs like focus, you know, build this game in a completely different direction. Or, um, you know this game isn't for you. You're ruining it. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2Like that's the kind of stuff where it like I don't know bothers me because it's like you're ruining it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that's the kind of stuff where it like I don't know bothers me because it's like you're also invalidating my experience, like you're, you know, you're like, obviously this I'm not, I have, I don't know, yoshi P. My audience is, like, you know, a drop in the ocean. And like now you're, you're making me feel bad about, like me, expressing my love for this game, which to me, is like weird. It's weird for that person, you know like, but hurt people, hurt people. People get really uh, opinionated about things and you know whatever. So those things you kind of have to, like I don't know, have a support system. I think, like tom, what do I do with this comment?
Speaker 1or like I would go to you guys and be like help me, like I, you know, yeah, so I think having like a, uh, you know, some kind of support system is also very yeah, we've talked about too, like not having alerts on your phone, where you just get you, where you intentionally choose when you're going to get that feedback from other people, versus it being thrown at you. I did share, share this past week, which is funny. I shared a comment on my Instagram story that was somebody saying like they hated the channel because of the puns and the jokes, which is funny.
Speaker 2Wait, somebody left you a comment on your main channel.
Speaker 1Yeah, about that, which you know. I get that All the time, all the time, but this one, I forget something about. It just stood out and it also had no profanity or anything, so I put it on my Instagram story and I oh yeah, I saw it.
Speaker 1Yeah, just because I just thought it was funny, I got which is very nice. I got so many messages from people that are like just ignore that, just ignore that, we love you, please don't stop. Here's the which is like, so, so nice. But I had to tell people I was like oh, I get this comment all the time like.
Speaker 1I'm not like shook because like, oh, what, like this is maybe my. It might even be more common than like reporter store windscreen. It might be my most common comment, uh, but it's funny because for everyone I get that.
Speaker 1Then right below it there's someone who's like love the jokes, love this, love the whatever yeah, it came for the review, stayed for the jokes like and yeah, and I literally I told some people like this comment just doesn't have any profanity or anything, so it was like easy to share my story. You don't even know some of the stuff that I that I have gotten that I will not share, um, but it was really nice that people's impulse was that and it didn't even occur to me because I was like this. I shared it because I thought it was so silly, but didn't even occur to me. People be like, oh my gosh, like are you okay?
Speaker 2like I want to please keep. I want to encourage you and do that it was like so sweet, yeah, oh, but having the.
Speaker 1So yeah, having that support system in whatever way, whatever form it takes yeah, uh, heather seems enthused to be able to go to that con.
Speaker 2Not sure why the enthusiasm con. Yeah, let's go. Listen, do not yell in the corner of rooms. I stand right in the middle. Gil the comments that point out the nonsensical things in your video that nobody else would notice yeah.
Speaker 1Well, the funny thing too with that is is or with anything, is where it's like yeah, the one, if it's like, the video is not even about this. You know like, whatever you do a tutorial like gil, maybe you're doing like a setup tutorial and someone tells you about something like in in the background of your set or something, and it's like, that's not what well, the most recent negative comment I got on my gaming channel is like why do you always wear that stupid hat? Like.
Speaker 2It's not what the video is about well, it's also like I don, I don't think it's stupid.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't wear it Like, obviously I'm wearing it, I don't, it's because I like it right. Why do you wear anything? Why do you no-transcript? Like yeah, everyone, I know you showed up to a party where everyone's having a good time and you told everyone this party is stupid. You look like the idiot.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1Like you're not Everyone's like. Oh my God, you're right.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Stop having fun.
Personal Branding and Security Concerns
Speaker 2Let's see Question for this community. It says the twine poodle. Has anyone who uses their real name for their channel experienced any negative consequences? Security, privacy issues et cetera. Want to use mine, but nervous about it.
Speaker 1That's a great question.
Speaker 2That's a really good question. I have not.
Speaker 1I mean, yeah, I'm scared to say it's been okay. But yeah, I didn't use my real name at first.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was. It is something that I put a lot of thought into, but you know, remember our whole discussion about personal branding.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So here's kind of a good example is like it also depends on your name, Like do you have a common name? Do other people have that name? Does it pop up Like there are a couple other Tom bucks out in the world? That?
Speaker 2are kind of psycho.
Speaker 1And there's some like like tombuckcom is just a voiceover artist, which is funny because it's like it feels sort of related, but it's not me. But I feel like people could go there and be like is this the guy? Does he do poison?
Speaker 1It doesn't seem like the guy, so that's a relevant thing. There's some financial person that got in trouble, there's a religious person, there's all kinds of things. But if you kind of create that, it depends on your name. It also depends on the online profile you've created.
Speaker 1Like last week, I had the I don't know something popped up with one of my high school teachers that I thought of. I was like, oh yeah, he had been teaching for like 20 something years when I had him 20 something years ago and I believe he still teaches. Like I think he's the longest now. He's taught for like 45 years at this school or something. And I remember I was like actually, is he still there? And so I just Googled his name to see like it was gonna pop in a school directory. I just wanted to like is he still teaching? First result was his home phone number and address, because there's no online. It was that. And then like below that was like a newspaper article from a few years ago. It was like teacher celebrates like milestone, uh. And I was like, oh, because there's nothing it went straight to the super personal stuff you have no internet footprint yeah it.
Speaker 1When I was like you know you can obviously like, there's those sites that like track people.
Speaker 2This was just google results like blah, blah, blah, whatever drive city, I was like, oh my god I will say one thing that is very, very, very important if you are considering using your real name is there are a lot of precautions that tom and I do to like for security and privacy issues.
Speaker 1My real name's not even Tom, it's Rudiger.
Speaker 2Rudiger, what is that? How do you spell that?
Speaker 1R-U-D-D-I-G-E-R.
Speaker 2What does that mean?
Speaker 1Is this a reference?
Speaker 2Oh, I knew it, I knew it it um yeah, so there are things that we, uh, we do to. You know, like every time we film outside, we're very conscious of like, what do you see? What can people?
Speaker 1see a street sign. Can you see it? Identifying landmark?
Speaker 2yeah, you know, we, we are obviously aware um we don't dox ourselves, but let's say, with other people.
Speaker 1You know like if, if we happen to be somewhere, like, and you happen to be filming something, you know like it's somebody else's house in the background, is somebody else on camera, are they okay with it? Like if you, if you're doing an unboxing and there's a shipping label, like all that stuff, you know like yeah very important.
Speaker 2Um, in the pews our page isbased, we get a lot of haters. I can imagine, andre, a ride on the New York subway is more scary than making the first video. Kathy, the comments that touch on the insecurities that we carry are the ones that tend to stay in your mind, but we need to let them go. Don't be swayed by praise or censure.
Speaker 1I mean, that's like real life, though. If you're feeling insecure about something and someone points it out, you know, if you have a pimple and you're like, okay, I think no one's going to notice it, and someone's like, what's on your face, right there? And you're like oh God, it's noticeable, like you know.
Speaker 2That's a human reaction. Yeah, that's a very normal human reaction. Yeah, let's see when someone talks smack to Heather. So people don't respond to our videos anymore. So sorry, I'll need to leave now. See you all next time. Bye, homesick Mac.
Speaker 1Bye-bye.
Speaker 2Oh man, I love the mean comments you share on your stories. It's so funny. Wow, you really have to have thick skin to do content creation.
Speaker 1I mean the positive. I met my husband because I created content. I met all the people here I met you guys.
Speaker 2Yeah, like there's, it's, it is. It is the best decision I've ever made in my life, hands down, hands down. Like this moment would not exist if I did not choose to make my first video. I will say like, um, it is an incredible journey of like self-discovery of, you know, finding, like unlocking a creative superpower I didn't realize I had. You know, like it's. I can't imagine doing anything else. It's absolutely incredible. There's just, you know, the thing with content creation is like it's new, it's relatively new. There's no handbook, there's no one way to do it, and so you kind of have to like go through all these things, um, on your own, without any prep, without any training. The best you could do is like ask other people who have done it, um, but it is a lot of like you figuring it out for yourself. Um, yeah, and I I think most people will not like whatever you're scared of probably won't happen, like that's not going to be the thing that's holding you back For me, it's me Like I'm definitely my biggest block.
Speaker 1I think that's very common for many people Me too.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, this is right, tin has been stalked to the point that she had to move to a different state. So that is, you know, these things happen right and like it hasn't happened to us, but we definitely, like I know people where it has been a problem.
Speaker 2Um, I, I and I think we've all heard horror stories of like really like people with really big audiences having very like weird stalkery you know, people get weird people get weird, so but I also think that if you're at that point of the weirdness, like I don't think that the real name or the you know, like the enthusiasm project is going to be the thing that holds somebody, back, yeah um gail says I technically used my name but a shortened version and found no issues.
Speaker 2Um person, yeah, actually there are a lot of content creators in the heather display community. Person is one of them. You don't have to have thick skin per se, especially when you have a support system that will always reaffirm your decisions and take the heat away from negativity. This um my name is super uncommon, so it's easy to me, which is great and bad right.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's good for the seo optimization, but bad if you want to blend in uh, if crazy people are hating on you, you must be doing something, right uh, let's see. Tom's real name is kevin conway got me.
Speaker 2Thanks all. Still gonna sit on this for a while, but I appreciate everyone's input. Yeah, also if you go with the twine poodle, like that's really cool too yeah I like the name it's a good one yeah, tom's was hard. The enthusiasm project is hard like that was attached to it and yeah but that's a mouthful. It's hard to spell, like how many people know how to spell enthusiasm? It's not like, it's not a word you use all the time.
Speaker 1Yeah, you should use it all the time but tom's youtube.
Speaker 2I bring that up in case you don't know.
Speaker 1Tom's youtube channel used to be called the enthusiasm project and then you changed it to tomba yeah, and now I have a third channel that is enthusiasm project, because it's the podcast, because I kept the name for that yeah, it's so amazing how you guys met through content creation.
Speaker 2Love your story thank you yeah, um some of my bestest friends in life. I met through content creation like they're, it's I absolutely yeah I, uh, I.
Speaker 2I definitely believe in the magic of being able to to use the internet to connect with people that I would never meet. You guys are in different states, different countries, like I. It would be awesome if we got to meet in person, but there's also a part of me that's like we're so. Some of us are on like literal opposite sides of the earth, but I would have never crossed paths with you unless for content creation. So twine poodle, make one video just for yourself, just publish, watch it back after a couple of days.
Speaker 1That's good advice, so you don't have to. You don't have to publish everything that you record you can kind of work through the paces. Hello, no one has to know. Yeah. But a lot of times too, I found people like, okay, I'll record a video that I don't have to publish. And at the end you got the video done. You're like, well, could just publish it, yeah.
Speaker 2If you've already edited it.
Speaker 1You've gone that far, yeah that far, yeah, but yeah, you don't, you don't have to it's.
Speaker 2You're not necessarily live streaming, to start with, right, so yeah all right time to clear the table I think it's time time to clear the table okay what was that face?
Speaker 1I would just use a tongue twister there hell hey I love the enthusiasm project.
Speaker 2I think we all do. Yes, biggest hockey, podcastgest hockey podcast in Germany right there. Yes.
Speaker 1Host of we have the Kraken Sabres game.
Speaker 2All right, everybody, it was fun hanging out Again. If you want updates on when the couple table is going to happen, usually we're every Friday, 1 pm, pacific Standard Time, but if we're not for some reason, we will send out an email. So there is a link to where you can get email updates of when we go live, and I'm not sure if we're going to do it next week, but I will let you guys know. Cool, all right.
Speaker 1Thanks for being here. Hope you have a safe, healthy, fun rest of your weekend. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 2Bye.