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creator Q&A and chat // The Couple's Table 160
What if navigating the maze of tech and content creation could be as enjoyable as a lively chat with friends? This episode of the Couple's Table brings you just that as Tom and Heather share their rollercoaster journey of setting up a dual gameplay streaming session for Final Fantasy 14.
Join us as Tom, now a Rode Creator of the Year Awards nominee, and Heather dissect the intricacies of streaming setups. We're talking multiple camera feeds, seamless audio channels, and the gear that makes it all possible.
And who knew tech talk could pair so well with hockey and Halloween candy chatter? We wrap up with a discussion on the latest in video and audio interfaces—think Blackmagic and Elgato—while reminiscing about our journey from following the Firebirds to becoming Seattle Kraken fans. Whether it's choosing the right microphone or marveling at the customization of Sennheiser mics, we blend the technical with the personal, creating an episode that's as engaging as it is informative. So grab a seat at the Couple's Table; this one's packed with colorful stories and practical advice.
🟣 CONNECT WITH HEATHER —
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🟣 CONNECT WITH TOM —
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Hello and welcome. My name is Tom and I'm Heather.
Speaker 2:You're sitting at the couple's table, the couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse, for richer or poorer in sickness and in health.
Speaker 1:Fridays, 1 pm, pacific Standard Time. Don't forget the time is changing this weekend for the US and also could be different in places.
Speaker 2:Happy New Month. Yay, I can't believe it is november and tom's gonna do our audio check I think we're good. I think we're good I think we're good I am using the you have a very slick looking mic over there.
Speaker 1:Yes, uh, I'm using the se dynacaster, which I've never used before it's red this is what it's a dynamic. This is one that was uh given to me for by audio hotline audio hotline yeah, um, what's cool about it is it has, uh he's already launching into a youtube video there.
Speaker 2:Do you guys see this happening?
Speaker 1:it's an active. It has a booster built into it, so it needs phantom power to run. Uh, so the same way. Basically, if you use something like the sm7b on, not a roadcaster you oftentimes need to connect a booster to it to get the signal loud enough. This has a booster built into it, so even though it's a dynamic, not a condenser microphone, you don't need the booster. But what's really cool about that is like I think I have it at only like 24 decibels of gain, versus like 56 that I would normally have something like the sm7b at. So it should sound crisp and clear but be a lot quieter without any like background hiss, because you don't need to boost the level so much you don't need to boost the level, so anyway that's my condensed review audio hotline in the house.
Speaker 2:Catherine is here, jeremy Hello, hello, gil, hey, everyone. Vaughn is here. Happy Friday everyone. Kane is checking in from Mildura, australia, sean hey, sean. Jeremy says I apparently need to become better friends with audio hotline yeah, it's worth it for sure. Well, happy Friday, tom. How's everything going in your world? Pretty good? Oh my gosh, I have big news big news yeah, we should pull it up.
Speaker 1:What is it?
Speaker 2:I can't really type right now because I just did my nails before the uh stream, so oh, there's the first one right here yeah okay, so check it out, guys.
Speaker 2:This is a big deal. Tom would never, would never, but I. So here we go. Okay, boom, this is the road creator of the year awards. This is a very big deal. Uh, I am all about. Uh, if you've been following me for a while, you know that. Um, I feel like you know there's a lot of recognition and accolades and I know stuff like that. Go, that goes to the super big production youtube channels, and one of my dreams along this youtube journey was to always create some kind of recognition thing to smaller creators. Okay, I feel like I kind of do that in my own way with the YouTube huddle up and stuff.
Speaker 2:But you can get companies like Rode and they can do it. You know legit. So Rode is doing creator of the year awards. I don't know if this is a new thing.
Speaker 1:They've done versions of things like this in the past.
Speaker 2:So they're giving away $250,000 in prizes total, but there's a creator of the year, an emerging creator of the year, and there's different categories like comedy, interviewing, gaming, fashion video, podcast, blah blah. Someone can you know win in every category, but it is based on. Hold on, what is it based on? I wanted to pull up like I saw this somewhere, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's basically based on, like creativity, production, uh, style it varies by the niche, but yeah yeah, but it it's like really recognizing the skill of the creator and their individuality versus like how big is your show, how many viewers?
Speaker 1:you can do the biggest spectacle yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So I'm really excited about this because guess who's on the short list, yeah for the in the gear and tech reviews category yeah, so tom just got an email last night. He's on the short list for gear and tech reviews, but also creator of the year I think they all filter and I think that's the overarching one.
Speaker 1:But then you have like your category things and then there is one um that is, choice is a people's choice. That will involve an online voting component at some point, so I might harass people for that, but I think it's you know, especially you know if anyone here is familiar with road and their partners.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know the people who use this stuff like it's a lot of people who are doing really fun creative content yes and as you are, yes, but uh, I'm just really proud and excited that was really kind of cool.
Speaker 1:I don't know how short the short list is, but that's pretty cool yeah yeah, I never had.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's interesting yeah, yeah, never had. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, I just think it's cool because it's like you know, in when you are a youtube creator, there's kind of only a few milestones. That right you can kind of look forward to. You know, uh, I think the silver play button, the gold play button are kind of obvious, but for a lot of people they don't hit that gold play button and so to get something like this where there's, you know, it's based on your merit, it's based on.
Speaker 1:It's not based on your dedication, audience size or anything. Yeah, I think that's really cool yeah, and they do have an emerging creator of the year yes, so that one, uh, that's if you started your channel in 2023. Yeah, that's pretty cool that is really cool.
Speaker 2:So, uh, I don't know, shout out to road for doing something like this.
Speaker 1:That's cool well, it's neat because they partnered with a lot of people. I don't want to scroll down to the bottom here, but they it's not just like even road stuff, but they partnered with like all these brands down here, um, some of which I've partnered with, like artlist and then light and then, even brevity ob's bot like this cool oh, here go to the fact the fact, what the fact? Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think it's like uh, what is it based on? Oh, how will my entry be judged?
Speaker 1:where is that the? Bottom no, there it is. The two major prizes, the creator of the award and the emerging one, as well as the 22 category awards, will be assessed by an expert panel of judges. Every entrance submitted content will be judged based on the following criteria audio quality, visual quality, personality, uh-oh and originality. There will also be a people's choice award for each category, judged by a community via a round of public voting. So so there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'm really excited for you.
Speaker 1:That's cool, I mean, I didn't expect anything to come of it, so already better than I expected, so congrats.
Speaker 2:Thank you. I want to take the time to acknowledge and recognize your hard work.
Speaker 1:Okay, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a special thing. All right, charles McG, and recognize your hard work, okay, thank you. Yeah, it's a special thing. All right, charles mcgregor's checking in. Hello everyone, hope sig mac is here. Happy friday audio hotline we can officially be with jeremy hubble. Oh we can be.
Speaker 1:We can officially be friends just flinks do.
Speaker 2:I see a tom buck on a dynacaster you sure do cat says that's awesome way to go tom you deserve it congrats. That's awesome, we'll deserve way to go, tom. Do we get to vote? You do?
Speaker 1:yes, and they'll. They'll announce when the voting goes up and stuff yeah, it's sometime.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say it's sometime in november.
Speaker 1:It is november yeah sometime soon, yeah, but I'll be sure to be kind of obnoxious about that.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm so excited because there are two people in the comments that one I haven't seen before here and then one I haven't seen a while. So first of all shout out hey, hi. It's so great to see, like Heather Display viewers, subscribers, coming over here to the couple table. It's so fun. And the Spiral Lab. Marta, how are couple stable? It's so fun, uh, and the spiral lab marta how? Are you? It's so good to see you. I hope all's been well. Yay, oh, how fun I just made my day well, what is up?
Speaker 2:well, today we're doing a q a oh, oh okay so if you have q's, we'll a we'll try to a uh, but let's see, I mean I have lots of gaming channel I know you do that's where I'm like, but I don't I, just I don't want to, like you know, take over the the couple table talking about it.
Speaker 1:I talked about it on the youtube, huddle up a lot, but yeah, but even last night we did a stream, we did a really fun halloween stream well, we should talk about this, because that was like I can't believe we pulled that off that was relatively unplanned yeah and it was really fun.
Speaker 1:Um, basically it was. We've done lots of streams or like heather's in streams and I'm kind of just over here, kind of in the side, and part of me very much likes that, because if you have this wide shot, I'm sort of just over to the side like the sidekick, yeah, and andy richter to your conan, okay, and then you cut to your gameplay footage and you're the box in the corner and I'm not on the frame at all yeah, you, you're, which is kind of awesome because it's no pressure at all, and then you cut back to the thing and I'm like watching the hockey game on the tv over there, um, but it's really fun because it keeps it.
Speaker 1:For me it's very, very casual and it's like, yeah, you know, um, that's really nice, but we wanted to try doing that. Um, you can never see what's on my computer screen, the gameplay thing. We can only see it through your side and we have redone your setup four times. So I was like I don't want to figure out a way to sometimes add in like another computer, like no. Yeah, so. So we did like a remote thing.
Speaker 2:Yes, so. So here's what's crazy. If you don't know, final Fantasy 14, it's a multiplayer game, but Critically acclaimed. But it's not a multiplayer game in terms of, like you know, you on the nintendo, and there's a player one and a player two and we play watching the same tv for final fantasy 14, like everyone needs to log into their own account on their own system, be it laptop, console, whatever, uh, which is why it's always my gameplay that's showing and then tom is just, you know, playing on his laptop.
Speaker 2:My character is in your yeah, exactly, uh, but I don't, I don't even know. I think my original idea was can we put tom's camera onto the stream? And I just want that's easy. I mean, everyone who has ecam, we have done that several times, uh, and ecam makes it really easy. But but then we were like, oh, can we make it so we can switch between our gameplays. So what was really cool to me yesterday is that it was a challenge for Tom and I to maximize both of our studios at the same time.
Speaker 1:On the fly on the spur of the moment.
Speaker 2:I mean, we had a couple hours.
Speaker 1:I was cutting it close it was?
Speaker 2:it was roadcaster video, it was ecam. I mean, I built an entire new profile with different scenes and everything I had to finally dig into virtual channels, which have been so something that's been.
Speaker 1:Now I just sound like the road ad select me. Something that's been asked for since the roadcaster 2 came out was virtual channel. So, um, it can show up as like one or two devices on your computer, but to be able to really assign, like different applications to different input outputs and it, that has finally, like literally just become available, a big reason being because it's apparently incredibly complicated to get that to work on mac and that has been a huge which now I understand. Um, so, and I was like reading about it, trying to watch videos about it, and I was like this is like honestly too confusing to me, because my first impulse was like, oh, I'll make a video about this a couple weeks ago or whatever, and I was like I, I don't understand this, but I had to do it last night because I really needed it, because I needed, as a guest on your e-cam, I needed my audio to go out, just my microphone.
Speaker 1:Yes, I also needed to be able to mix in my game audio.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But my game audio. I needed to hear it all the time so I can monitor it but it didn't need to be in the stream all the time.
Speaker 1:It couldn't just be one output where we can't have two gameplay audios overlapping. It'd be insane. So I needed to. I needed to hear it all the time, but it only needed to go out to the stream sometimes and then we were talking. So I needed to hear you, but the game audio is kept really quiet. You need to be loud, so that means I had to break you and the game audio into separate faders. I got it all working on my Rodecaster Duo, where I was on one fader, you were on one fader, game audio was on one fader and I could basically mute and unmute game audio from the stream on the fly, and that was it was.
Speaker 1:I'm not even 100% sure I did it right, but it worked, so just be there.
Speaker 2:Well, see, that's the tricky part about being a content creator is that like there's no one way to do it, Because if there was, yeah, pull up the steps and let's just go. But it's like we have to sit here and be like, okay, if I try, if I did this, plug this into this, use this software. Yeah, and we made it work.
Speaker 1:Well then, of course, like my, because I was also using them like loopback and all this other stuff. And then, you know, I was like, okay, everything's ready, like it's, we're good to go. And then my computer went to sleep before the stream.
Speaker 2:When it woke up now like the game audio is not working anymore, and I was like oh, geez, uh, so yeah, that was last night. K and says I've actually been a lurker for a while on all your channels heather. Oh, I have no idea well, I'm glad that you're saying hi, and if anyone is just a lurker, you know, feel free to chime in and say hi. Uh, just flink says how are you liking that microphone? I was thinking about getting one, just because I don't want to be another guy with an sm7b.
Speaker 1:You don't mean another podcast, bro. Um, this is literally the first time I'm actually using yeah, he's like plugged in right now testing it out. I like. I like the way it sounds, which is why I'm using it, but this is my first actual use of it yeah, uh, can's asking any topics for q a or just random you know school appropriate safe for work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anything, whatever. It doesn't have to be, uh, content creation could be whatever gil says. I loved how it came out, yes, uh, so just like I, I get excited with bond k and from heather just play, come on over here. I also really like when gil goes or heather just play, because I'm like, oh, it's another creator who understands what you're looking at in terms of this took us hours to build, to figure out this whole. I mean the fact that you're in your youtube studio.
Speaker 1:It's like that's a whole system and power well then, I had to like make it halloweeny and do the like theming and decorations.
Speaker 2:It's like can the lights look like candles probably not 100% necessary and then like in final fantasy 14 there was a haunted house, so we did that, we did hide and seek. It's just like I don't know it was was really fun. That was like way fun.
Speaker 1:Plus, we moved some progress on my.
Speaker 2:MSQ.
Speaker 1:The main story.
Speaker 2:Jeremy says got all to work with Loopback.
Speaker 1:Loopback is cool, loopback did. Loopback saved the day yesterday a lot, but I needed the physical faders of the roadcaster, so it was kind of a collab. But then Loopback decided to take a nap right before the stream started and then eventually it woke up again.
Speaker 2:So kane says why not use discord voice channel for splitting the cam and stuff? It's much easier to use though. Well see, so discord voice channel, I've actually never used it, except for that. Actually, I've never used a discord voice channel, except to talk to pimpy one time or twice, which sounds strange. If you don't know who he is, he's a. The moderator in the heather just played discord server. Uh, but I I I am new to discord. Aside from the, you know very we've made a few that are kind of inactive and then yeah, that's really all problems that have been dealt with and solved before.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, but it's like new to us, yeah so I need to figure out how to use like utilize discord to its fullest potential, but I still I'm learning. Uh, just flink, says. Nick and melena on twitch used to have both their cams and gameplays on one stream at the same time. Maybe you look how they did it. If you needed any inspiration, wow on the stream at the same time. I feel like that would be, so it would have to be two squares I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously I'm not. I've never heard this, but I worry that that would be imagine in a final fantasy battle, though like I would get motion sick. I wouldn't be able to watch it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because if you're going right, I'm going left. Oh, forget it. Yeah, forget it, my brain would break.
Speaker 1:It's not necessarily like that you need to see, because a lot of times like if we're, if you're doing something, like okay, we're gonna go do this map or whatever, and then like you don't need to see my screen for that and if my character is in there it's fine. But it's more about like okay, like heather, you're leading this thing, or like tom needs to do this battle, so it makes more sense to see it from my point of view yeah and that's where it was like switching over was yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 2:It's more of like uh who, who's the focus of the activity that we're doing?
Speaker 1:yeah it.
Speaker 2:We would only need to show one at a time, but just having the option to be able to switch between the two was something we've never tried.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And not that we need to do that every time, but it was cool to try to test it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, what's cool about stuff like that is we both learn more about streaming and doing that kind of stuff. I think we also each I know I learned more. I got ideas and learn more just about my setup for my videos and stuff yeah which was awesome, like even got some ideas for lighting. Um, definitely learned more about like streaming audio stuff and learned I did everything off my macbook yesterday and it did it.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to use it for everything next time because it was doing streaming and gaming at the same time for hours. Next time I'm just just going to have it game, which then and this was my original idea and I don't know where it's see. This is where it's like. There's always so many ways to do everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My Mac mini setup is just good in there and I can, I should. What I'm going to do next time is just take my MacBook and plug it into the Rodecaster video and then I'm done. It's just a source in the Rodecaster video I have my camera. I have my computer screen.
Speaker 2:I see your Mac mini is streaming. Your MacBook Pro is a source as the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think what threw me off is I wanted to use my big display to game, because I've never played the game on a big monitor, yeah, and the the game on a big monitor, yeah, uh, and the only way to do that was this to do everything, get it all working was this. But yeah, it would have been better to do the mac mini. I would have to game on the macbook, which I'm used to it's fine, and then ecam could be on my big monitor and then I could have still had the prompter up, because the other thing was I had my macbook screen right below my camera because I didn't have enough. Yeah, I couldn't do the prompter in time, but I'm now so I used to be where.
Speaker 1:If there's a camera lens, no matter what's happening, I will focus on the camera lens and talk to the camera lens right, because we're so trained yeah even if the camera's not on, like if I was on a phone call with someone, I would be yeah, same talking when I come in here and I'm on the phone.
Speaker 2:I just look at the camera. Yeah, it's muscle memory.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the prompter, though, because you can now put the other person on screen. I've actually gotten used to like, oh, you can just talk to the other person. So last night the screen was right below it and I just kept looking down and talking to you and having to remind myself it like broke the muscle memory. So anyway, all that to say, if I made things easier on myself and just gamed on a smaller screen, it'd be super easy to set up. So it's not like hey tom, you want to tear your studio apart to do a live stream. It's like hey tom, do you want to plug in one cable? Yeah, and then I can just look at you on the prompter. I can hear everything just fine.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, well, my favorite part is how this is giving us a chance to level up our skills and do. It's almost like practicing what we preach. You know, because I feel like I was telling you this last night. I feel like, okay, we've been doing YouTube seven, eight years. It's a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I feel it's like I don't know. I feel reinvigorated.
Speaker 1:I mean, stuff changes all the time, yeah, but it's cool that we can still still like be curious and experiment and learn new things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's why I love this stuff and I love that there is no one way to do it.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like that kills me, but I mean that that is a blessing and a curse, but it's also fun because it means you don't always have to have, like this, really specific gear yeah it means you don't have to do it the way someone else is doing it it's like problem solving.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta get creative solving, yeah, yeah gil says how are y'all switching?
Speaker 2:so I was the one actually I want to show something yeah, so I was streaming from here and then we turned on interview mode in ecam and then I set up um. I set up like all different scenes where um. So the tricky part was that tom had to switch his output right. So like if we had a camera here on the left corner, a camera there in the other corner, and then the whole thing is gameplay, he would have to make sure that his output is his face right. But if I switched to his gameplay, he would have to make sure that his output is his face right. But if I switched to his gameplay, he would have to switch on his end to his scene there was some overlaps, for, like it was my gameplay footage in the little box in the corner or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if anyone knows, you know how to use ecam and you see the replay, you'll totally understand what's happening so, um, something I was able to do, which is actually cool.
Speaker 1:I don't think charlotte is here right now, but, um, charlotte gave us a couple of her old stream decks yes, well they're old news like she had new stream decks but she wasn't using them, so she gave them to us, which is very cool.
Speaker 1:I have one in my office, which is very cool yeah I had the old, like the original stream deck that I've had forever, um, like just this, this one here. But the thing that was driving me crazy about it a reason I realized I was hardly ever using it is because of the stand that it came.
Speaker 1:I remember it being so, charlotte, like I have the one with the knobs on it now and stuff, which is super cool, so I just use that, and this one has been in a drawer but I need it. I did need quick access to things last night so I was like, crud, okay, put in the stream deck, and it has this. This stand, is it? You can't constantly falls down.
Speaker 2:You can't move it. It's really annoying. So I had 3d printed this like of course we'll get them.
Speaker 1:Oops, sorry, so resourceful you know 3d printed this and it and it's a perfect fit yeah, so it's a nice stand there and that worked out really well. It's like oh great, now I have this other stream deck, which is perfect for times like this, and then what's cool about this is I've got some anti-grip things because it was sliding, so now not anti-grip grip anti-anti grip um, and then, because it was kind of lightweight, I actually just put an old battery that doesn't work oh, so it like weighs down, so it has a little more weight that I want to figure out, like how to put more weight into it.
Speaker 1:But, it's kind of nice because now this looks a lot more like your big stream deck.
Speaker 2:But it's like stable yeah.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't slip and slide. So I was able to, like you know, just have this like yeah. Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:And then I did want, just because we're talking about switching. I did, I knocked something down. Oh don't worry about that I did want to share this that I got yesterday, which I do think these look like eyes. Every time I've seen this, it looks like a face to me. That's funny, especially because it looks like they're moving.
Speaker 2:Look at the screen. Oh yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. This is the Ulanzi video switcher, so it's basically like we've talked about the Rodecaster video.
Speaker 2:Talked about the Rodecaster video.
Speaker 1:This is sort of the other direction, where it's not trying to be crazy complicated, it's taking just basic switching that the ATEM does and simplifying it. And I've been really really curious about this one, because it's got your four HDMIs and everything and even two mic inputs and you got your dials and whatnot and it all feels quite nice. Um so just for a basic switcher, I think it's 300 bucks, um so same price as an atem mini. But what's really neat about it is this is cool.
Speaker 1:I mean, even I can appreciate this with magnets and the reason for that, especially if you've used a stream deck or if you used, if you use an ATEM and a stream deck and you're kind of like I wish one was sort of like the other. When you really max out a switcher like this, you have. So many cables, and so you have to, you're streaming and you pull it on your desk and you have four HDMI's plus the power cable, plus the USB, plus the audio, plus the headphones yeah there's this whole nest of cables.
Speaker 1:So what you can do is all those cables can go into the base. That can just go over there put it somewhere under and then there's just one usb cable that comes to the top panel, and it even has little feet oh, that's cute.
Speaker 2:So that way it can still be level.
Speaker 1:That's nifty um, and that way you just have one cable and then you can do your switching and stuff right there. Um plus, it's just magnets bam which is cool. So, anyway, I'm excited to. I have a couple non-atem basic switchers that I'm excited to talk about in future videos.
Speaker 2:There we go, anyway kane says are you coming over to my free company halloween event? What time was it again, kane? I think it was at six. I'll definitely be on, so I should stop by and see what this is all about oh, that sounds way fun I cannot even tell you I'm so excited to play without like. I just want to play heather just wants to play heather, just play.
Speaker 2:I really have an itch to play. Horry says hello guys, tom style. I just got the Rodecaster Pro 2 to replace the Rodecaster Pro and I'm looking for a way to connect multiple cameras to my laptop.
Speaker 1:But the Rodecaster video is too far from my price range yeah, I mean it depends, because switchers like this even the Rodecaster video and all the ATEMs and stuff they allow you to connect multiple cameras, but the whole thing is viewed as one source. So you're not going to see like an E-cam or something You're not going to be able to pull. Camera one, camera two, that's all done through here, which is fine for most people.
Speaker 1:And that might be all you need, and they're all limited to 1080 as well. If you want like multiple individual sources of 4K, blackmagic makes something I forget exactly what it's called Deck something. And then Elgato makes the Cam Link Pro, which is four 4K HDMI inputs that each show up as a source. If you're using it with a Mac, though, it's like a PCI card, so you have to put it it's for like a tower computer and you slide it in one of the card slots, so you can't do that in a Mac, and so you have to get an external enclosure housing for it.
Speaker 1:You could do that, but Peter Gregg was doing that. He's the first person I saw do it. He's the first person I saw use Ecamm and the first person I do that, and that way he could get four individual 4k sources into ecamm oh my gosh, yeah, without having to like, because that's handling all the processing so it's not right throwing it all into your computer uh, just flink said it could be a cool thing to have three separate scenes one with heather's gameplay, one with tom's and one that combines them both.
Speaker 2:Then you can switch between on something like a stream deck that's actually not not a bad idea. I mean, yesterday was a great test, and now that we've done it, once Refine, we can fine-tune. Obs is here. Hey, hey, how was the move? You good?
Speaker 1:Yeah, how is it?
Speaker 2:King Paco, which interface will you choose? Elgato, focusrite, vocaster or Rode is also great, but really simple. I used both of those. Yeah, focus, right, I used for years, yeah, the vocaster we had in here for like a month or two yeah, use the scarlet and the vocaster and then the road is just like it's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would choose the road. The fact that I could just plug in any mic process it right in the device. Record in the device if I need to split things out in a fader jeremy says you need to like and subscribe to his channels apparently. He's still liking it. Oh, I was like wait what? Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Let's see, oh Charlie.
Speaker 1:We were just talking about you. We said her name three times. She showed up in the chat.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Thank you for the stream decks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tom just talked about how I think she might have heard.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. Kwok Comedy. Hey, it's good to see you. That's the same issue my husband and I has with the first Stream Deck versions. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:And it sucks because I like it. I remember when one of our friends first told us about the Stream Deck. When they first came out they're like have you seen this thing? It's like each button bucks. Yeah, how does this work?
Speaker 1:um, but it's always been frustrating and I think that the fact that I can't move it around easily stopped me from using a lot. Yeah, um and then. So I printed this out and then charlotte sent us the ones. I was like, oh well, that solves that problem. But I was feeling bad that this is just in a drawer then, and now that it can be my like in a pinch streaming macbook, whatever thing, it's pretty cool there you go.
Speaker 2:Uh, let's see. Enthusiast impression says you can find scotch resticable mounting squares for 3d printed base of your stream deck it's sticky and rewashable I don't know which ones I got there I just.
Speaker 1:These are like a big pad.
Speaker 2:They are sticky scotch resticable mounting squares that sounds something that we should have like in the house, but these worked.
Speaker 1:It was just a big pad of like rubbery stuff. I just cut it and it worked.
Speaker 2:Uh, jeremy says alonzi is stepping up their game. Meanwhile, tom stock with road is on the decline. Uh, charles says, nice, splitting up the base from the button seems super useful yeah uh, jorge. Wow, you just answered my question without even reading it.
Speaker 1:Perfect yeah, I mean anything. It sounds like if you're looking for a switcher, an atem or the ulanzi, they're the way to go, because they're it's three. They're 300 bucks. The atem mini pro is 300, the ulanzi is 300. I haven't used this enough, like I literally just got it.
Speaker 2:I love the design of it, the build quality is awesome, but I I can't tell.
Speaker 1:I've used the atems for years um for basic switching. The roadcaster video is, if you want, ecam in a physical device like going in that direction. So it's very different um and way better audio too uh, exposure bar drew.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, good to see you. Okay, the halloween thing is at six okay do we have a game tonight to watch? On tv at seven oh perfect yeah there's a firebirds game at seven, so we can definitely step in there at six yeah, oh, bailey, the deck link. That's what black magic calls it, it's the same thing as the cam link pro, but it's the black magic version uh, I have the elgato cam link pro that one for my pc but not for my laptop you have it okay the elgato cam link pro.
Speaker 1:That's the four input one oh, because the cam link is just the one.
Speaker 2:It's like it looks like you didn't even know there was a four that's the one I was talking about.
Speaker 1:You have to do the closure and everything deck link by black magic for hdmi's. It's not it's, it's expensive and it's not as user-friendly to set up as the cam link is, so it's not for everybody obs is all moved over, just trying to stream and unpack everything.
Speaker 2:Yay, congrats on the move, folks. I'm taking donations now on getting that deck link and an m4 macbook pro quite maxed out, starving mode oh, that would be a fun combo m4 so apple just updated everything this week wait, we have m1. Yeah, does this mean we missed two and three? Yeah, we did oh so wow yeah, so the m4 must be really seems pretty darn good all right.
Speaker 1:But our computers are like unless you need to final fantasy and stream and do like essentially a video call at the same time where it only works pretty well.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:With multiple monitors.
Speaker 2:I have no complaints.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but what's really cool, though, is the M4. I mean it's. I could essentially get the M4 equivalent of my computer, which my MacBook, which was four grand when I bought it, which was four grand when I bought it. Um, there is no equivalent because it's more powerful by default, but it would be about three thousand dollars for the equivalent which is more powerful. But what's really cool is the m4, mac mini for the base model, mac mini like probably as powerful as our macbooks.
Speaker 2:Oh, for 5.99, 4.99 with an education discount drew says I just grabbed a stream deck as well, still trying to learn how to use it with ecam. It's so easy, it's just. I think the tricky part is figuring out, because everyone's ecam is different. The way that you set it up so you know your scenes are obvious. That's how we switch the scenes, but yeah, what?
Speaker 1:I was reading jeremy's thing said drop the stream deck on the table. Well, I'm sure there's no, this doesn't really absorb much. And then there's no, not really a shock metal on the microphone, so it's probably oh, probably carrying over again where the sm7b just beats out.
Speaker 2:Everybody is like you can just hit it and smack it and do whatever it makes no, sound it's amazing. Just Flink says do you guys have any sound treatment in Heather's office? The audio doesn't sound reverby at all. Well, the AC is going on right now, which I don't think you can hear you shouldn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, there's really no sound treatment in here. There's no sound treatment here. Um we are. There's no sound treatment, but it's carpeted it's carpeted and there's stuff and you actually you're mostly better off than I am because you have like a soft couch and soft pillows over there. There's stuff in here there's soft things, um, even my room. It kind of works because there's stuff everywhere, but a lot of it is hard things, so like hard, flat surfaces, like even the monitors and the desktop.
Speaker 2:All that's reflecting stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah but yeah, I think also because we're going into a corner it I don't know. It does things well and then using a dynamic mic that is a little bit better at rejecting background stuff kat says I'm still so happy with the performance of my m1. Yeah, I have no like it makes me happy and excited if I had unlimited money to win the road creator thing get some m4s.
Speaker 1:Um, but like it makes me really happy that the insanely expensive computer when I I needed a new laptop, when I bought the m1 mac, m1 max, macbook pro three years ago over three years ago now it was four thousand dollars. I've never spent nearly that much on a computer and it's still like, yeah, I don't even think about it yeah same yeah uh ob says they haven't updated my studio the studio yet.
Speaker 2:Maybe I will trade in my m1 macbook pro for a new mac mini and a 14 inch macbook pro um uh bailey says I just finished all my final exams through school, so finally have more freedom to work.
Speaker 1:Having the ability to work Monday through Friday and even earn actual money is much nicer does it feel weird to be out in the world during those days and hours where you normally be like stuck?
Speaker 2:yes, oh, my gosh. Congrats, bailey, you know a dream.
Speaker 1:I've had a recurring dream that happens maybe every month or two and it's me like being back in high school, but it's like a month before graduation, maybe like senior or two, and it's me like being back in high school, but it's like a month before graduation maybe like senior year, yeah, and it's like it's me like trying to wrap things up, like, oh, there's like a senior project and there's essays, and it's usually something of like I'm so sick of school, I don't want to do any of this, but I have like these big essays to do and I know it's all I got to do, but it feels like that last five or six weeks is going to take forever. I remember this feeling, but in my dream I'm like I just I'm not going to do the work.
Speaker 1:I don't think I'm going to graduate, and then it's the fear of like not graduating. And then I wake up like that was 20 years ago this is Tom Uh, I can explain myself.
Speaker 2:moving from M1 Mac mini only because of portability.
Speaker 1:Don't have a laptop, the mini is still great. Yeah, yeah, that's. The thing too is like I don't like my mini, since I don't use it as my editing computer still checks all the boxes for what I need. I like ecam. It's great video calls. It's great admin email stuff. It's great yeah, so I really have no need for a new one. Um, if the prices go down really low or if mine takes a dump, or something, then I would get a new one.
Speaker 1:But I like that it is still going strong and it's like hey, I bought the cheap one while ago. It's still going. But also, having bought that when I was teaching online, like that was my main computer, but now that's not a thing anymore. Like my main computer for the foreseeable future has to be a laptop, like it.
Speaker 2:It just has to be so I don't, I don't have a preference.
Speaker 1:Well, now, yeah, you never your laptop's under there it never moves. You took it to jury duty once and otherwise it's been in here uh, let's see, just like says fun stream deck.
Speaker 2:Fact elgato is a free app that gives you a six button stream deck with full functionality for free oh, that's true, you can do like ipads and stuff yeah, uh bailey says I'm seeing the limits of my m1 macbook air doing lots of 3d visualization and video editing so I need to upgrade soon, probably going to pick up the m2 or m3 that someone is willing uh selling to replace talk to doc.
Speaker 1:I'm sure he's upgrading all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:I, yeah, I know yeah he's someone who it's like yearly right.
Speaker 1:He gets whatever the newest one is, and then sells the previous one as soon as possible.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:But he's a good person to do that with because he knows since he knows he's selling it when he buys it. He takes really good care of all the stuff, so when you get it it's like a brand new one. Jeremy says final cut 11 looks like it might make upgrading a necessity see, yeah, because final cut's coming out with new updates that require apple intelligence. That's only on the new things, but like and as someone with the final cut pro course that I want to keep updated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could. That could make you know, make it make sense to get a Mac Mini to keep cheap. But right now the big thing is auto captions and subtitles and things being done through Apple Intelligence, so it's like Descript built into Final.
Speaker 2:Cut. Oh my god, that would be awesome yeah that's the thing people have been asking for.
Speaker 1:That's not a reason that I'm going to get a new computer.
Speaker 2:Drew says we'd love to start doing gaming stream, but I'm coming up with question marks on how the best way to stream a ps5 any way.
Speaker 1:We could chat about setup sometime oh, you can just watch a vid right yeah, so, uh, is it?
Speaker 2:what channel is it on? Heather ramirez, it's on my tutorial channel. I have a setup. I have a setup about my youtube setup that I just did, like I don't know two weeks ago, three weeks ago, but basically, uh, we use the 4kx, so playstation 5 goes into the elgato 4kx, which goes into ecam as a source.
Speaker 1:That's it yeah, it's pretty simple. The 4 4KX has HDMI pass-through, so then your PS5 can go into a monitor display or something so you can play with no lag, but it's still being captured and we tried so the thing we were trying to use, because we already had a Streamer X, which is a 4K capture card with HDMI pass-through, but Streamer X got weird with Mac.
Speaker 1:It gets weird with Mac because apple thinks you're doing apple has some crazy copyright protection, so it basically just your mac doesn't work with streamer x. For the most part the ps5 does. But here's the tricky part, and this is a very subtle thing that we learned. Sorry, I'm like looking out to make sure our package gets left and not left with a note. So let's make sure our package gets left and not left with a note. So let's make sure the guy walks back to the truck without a box.
Speaker 2:Is this yours? Yeah, oh, he rang the doorbell.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think they always ring the doorbell. I think he's, I don't think. Sorry, there's a FedEx truck.
Speaker 2:He's not carrying anything, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good. So this is a really subtle thing that I didn't know about. The PS5 is 4K, Basically the HDMI input that goes in the Streamer X has to match the HDMI through resolution. So if the PS5 is coming in at 4K, the Streamer X has to be going into a 4K display.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't have a 4K display.
Speaker 1:We have just monitors and was not gonna buy one just for this yeah um, and then the other option is well, okay, do a 1080 output into a 1080 display, but the whole point we redid your setup was 4k, so it's like, well, especially gameplay, especially final fantasy on a ps5, like you need as much resolution as possible yeah, so I was peeking through the screen that we did last night. The ps5 looks so good compared to my, my computer was looking like a stop motion it looks so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like dang it's crystal clear, yeah, and smooth, no matter how much insanity is happening on screen. Yeah, um, and so the 4k x it can solve that problem. You can have a 4K source like the PS5 going into a 1080 monitor, so it's not a problem. If you have the Streamer X and you have 4K displays, it's not a problem. But if you don't, that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a hiccup. All right, let's see King Pago. I need help choosing my next microphone, as I am confused about whether to pick a Rode or Fafine. Currently, I have the Fafine AM8.
Speaker 1:So it's probably not going to feel like an upgrade. They do have some mics that have better handling noise and stuff than the AM8. But if you want to spend your money and actually feel like an upgrade, getting a Rode mic probably definitely the way to go. The AM8's cool because it's a dynamic mic with dual with XLR and USB, so it's super versatile and it's dynamic.
Speaker 1:You can get the basic pod mic for $99, but the one I would recommend if you want to jump in and be like Whoa, I got something that feels like way different than this is the NT one signature series, um, which is $150. Uh, it's a condenser microphone, so it's going to feel super different than the AM eight, but it's also available in a whole bunch of cool colors. So you get a black one, but you could also get like blue, purple, red, dark blue, green, pink, like yeah, so I would get, I would look at the road and t1 signature series homesick mac says if anyone is considering getting the black magic deck link, you'll need an enclosure which is an additional 300 if you have a mac uh cane says.
Speaker 2:After fighting the atm audio, atem audio input for years, a hum I could never remove has finally been fixed by behringer hd 400 ac hum eliminator. Have you ever had noise or hum from inputs and how did you fix?
Speaker 1:I don't use audio on the atems is how I have a whole video trying it, because it and I'm curious about this because it has the same little like here's a little mic inputs. I have a. Basically, when things like this have audio inputs, I don't To me they don't, Because the signal yeah.
Speaker 1:I just plug the Rodecaster in separately, which is why the Rodecaster video is awesome, because it's basically, in addition to being this big or almost as big, has basically a Rodecaster Duo built into it, right. This bit big or almost this big, has basically a roadcaster duo built into it, right. And so you just have. There's nothing in the switching world that even remotely comes close, in terms of audio, to the roadcaster video okay, I need to show you this comment right here and tell you what. My first you do, you think, a free company?
Speaker 2:I am, oh my gosh. So greg question how's your Kraken team doing? And I totally thought my first instinct was that you were talking about this. This is a guild slash free company that Tom and I founded on Tuesday it was lost, but then we founded. On Tuesday we did a charter. On Tuesday it was lost but then we found it. On Tuesday we did a charter. So basically in Final Fantasy XIV you can create like a guild in game. It's like a club in game. People can become members and stuff.
Speaker 1:But you can like, share resources, you can when you need, you can do challenges together or if you need people to like, you can get a house together like a little house. Everyone can decorate, but that's cool.
Speaker 2:And it's just cool. It's just cool.
Speaker 1:It's just the craziest thing to me. It's funny because Greg was asking about the hockey team.
Speaker 2:The hockey team Seattle Kraken. The Seattle Kraken.
Speaker 1:Which they didn't win last night, but they've been doing great overall and I'm very excited for them and their season and I really feel like I do see lots of changes with like coaching lineups, because they have our team's old coaching staff which seems to be kicking butt.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's so funny because we got into the Firebirds, because they were our team Then. This was several years ago. Now they feed into the Seattle Kraken.
Speaker 2:They feed into the Seattle Kraken, so that became our NHL team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then that led to you know years of being into both those teams and all that Final Fantasy. When you register you have to choose, like a data center and a server to be on, because it's a worldwide phenomenon. Yeah, and there's like a million people when you go to sign up, it'll just throw you in one, but if you want to choose one, like no, you, you pick you pick, but it just kind of tells you like, pick the one closest to you yeah yeah, so wherever you're at like, oh, whatever there's no, like you're my location.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no.
Speaker 1:The game is the same. Um yeah, but the the reason it would matter is if you have a lot of people you want to play with that are on one. You would want to be on the same as them yeah because it's way easier.
Speaker 1:Um, but, like, for me it didn't matter, so I just went to the one that it threw me in. Well then, because people keep playing, they fill up and so they keep, they add new servers and new data centers and all this stuff. Um, they added a new one recently that's called kraken, and since the one we were on was so full, if people wanted, like we're watching the stream, they want to come play with us, they like literally couldn't move over.
Speaker 2:It was too full yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it was like oh, if we move to a new one, it's going to be easier for people to join, and there happens to be one called Kraken, so 100%, we're going to move to that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and that's really funny.
Speaker 2:And so now we have a free company it's called Kraken's Call. We have a charter and everything, and it's like it honestly is one of the coolest things that I've done, like in the whole YouTube journey.
Speaker 1:It's amazing, it's just so crazy. It's cool because for new people to the game, like me, it's really fun, but it also seems like it's sort of reinvigorating because for new people to the game, like me, it's really fun, but it also seems like it's sort of reinvigorating people who have been playing for a long time yeah, I'm like, oh, now, like I want to log in every day and I have things to do yeah, excuse me okay yeah, it's way too excited yeah, uh, really quick.
Speaker 2:Um, is that matching the output to the display resolution problem a mac thing or road streamer x thing?
Speaker 1:I've never heard about this from any pc streamer um, I, it was the streamer x thing, because we're not. The display going in has nothing to do with the computer. My guess is, a lot of pc streamers have already upgraded to 4k displays and it maybe would never be known as an issue. Because, yeah, because you're just going from ps5 streamer x to display yeah so there's no mr camera junkie in the house.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello. Well, I gotta go hop on one of my union meetings. I catch it later. Glad I could stop by and hang out.
Speaker 1:We see you later.
Speaker 2:We can have a reunion good seeing you drew ahoy mateys, what mateys? What's up? Jfk Gil? Audio issues from the ATEM in my experience is due to the audio cable being close to a computer cable or my NAS server.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird Like the ATEM feels prone to it but then cables are prone to it. I don't know, it's just a mess.
Speaker 2:If anyone is looking for the Shure SM7B used, be careful, because the clone is 99%. Exactly the same.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is one of the most counterfeited products around. Really, for some reason, I've wanted to try to get a counterfeit one to like test.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:There's a YouTube video.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should totally do a blind test and see if everyone can like tell.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know how to get a counterfeit. It's like go to Tijuana and buy the SM7B or something that's true. But usually you don't want it and you end up with it. But it is a good point. If you want to spend your $400 on an SM7B, get it from an authorized retailer.
Speaker 2:JFK says I've resisted FF1414 for years and I'll continue to resist this futile buddy uh well, I'm gonna tell you, you can play this critically acclaimed mmo rpg for free, for free, for free. Wow, and here's someone who just signed up for the very first time, two months ago.
Speaker 1:Ish yeah, but then I I got into it and just paid right away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was like I'm not on the trail anymore and bond says we just confirmed that we just hit rank eight, which is crazy to me.
Speaker 1:Go cracking that's drew's local team oh, that's right, k.
Speaker 2:And says when final fantasy 14 becomes your daily life now, sometimes it can be mistaken like that you both will get used to it. Yeah uh, king focus says can you send me the link for the microphone you were talking about?
Speaker 1:thank you, have a wonderful day I don't have a link on oh there's a way to find it I think it's on my website actually hi my name is tomcom slash gear question mark.
Speaker 2:Hi, my name is tomcom.
Speaker 1:Uh, just go there and you can find there's a gear tab and there's a what I use tab and there's all the microphones and stuff with descriptions about why I use each one, so you can jfk says I'm not sure what's going on with heather's hair, but I like it.
Speaker 2:I have no idea what's going on with my hair either. We were supposed to dye it today, uh, and if you see, it's all. It's like five different colors right now. Uh, because I had pink right here. This is like the science of my hair had pink right here, so now it's fading into a different color. We didn't really paint this part last time, so that's lighter than the rest. It's all, it's just.
Speaker 1:It looks great, though, yeah.
Speaker 2:But Sunday we're going to have to.
Speaker 1:But you don't like it when it's one color, no Like paint bucket click fill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no like no I like it when it's kind of messy yeah yeah, but we need, we need to touch it up. We were supposed to do it today but we didn't. Jeremy says can't wait to host you guys up here and catch a game I was just talking with the wifey neither of us follow hockey, so you'll need to educate us. Oh yeah, I mean, hockey's just like super hockey's fun.
Speaker 2:If you don't even know what's going on, you just go and just yeah you know, the horn goes off when someone scores and it's fun, uh, just fling says, even as someone with a very high npc, a lot of us don't bother with 4k displays.
Speaker 1:1440 high refresh rate is what most of us go for I guess frame rate is would probably be a higher priority than resolution oh, so this is something I actually had to.
Speaker 2:This was a pill to swallow, so ever since we upgraded the whole thing, I've been all about that 4k and let me tell you okay, as someone who was like I'm not gonna do 4k, blah, blah, blah, and now I'm like. Now I'm just like is this, when I'm watching youtube, is this the highest quality? She will click off 4k, 4k, but with heather just play streams. I can't do 4k, which makes me so sad, but but no one even cares.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the reason is on YouTube, if you want to do streams with lower latency, so there's less of a delay between what happens on screen and what the stream actually sees you need to go down to 1440.
Speaker 2:I have to lower the latency yeah, so I go to 1440, which to me is a better experience for everyone who's watching, because a lot of the people who are watching are playing and I don't want there to be a 30 second delay between you know what the heck I'm seeing? And then everyone has to like wait 30 seconds, read, or like see what I'm seeing, but it's like the boss is dead or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like yeah so anyway, uh, uh, even as someone with very oh, I said that the FC is rank eight. Sean is confirming Charlotte. I'm having visions of Tom in a street corner in New York whispering hey, buddy got counterfeit. Sm7b.
Speaker 1:Open a coat with like a brush. Yeah, it's like coach bags Rolexes, gucci, sm7bs, shur mics.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Listen women. Sometimes bright color hair is a vibe. I love it there we go.
Speaker 1:We gotta do your hair, tom. That's what they're saying. I mean they, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 2:Let's do charity fundraiser lighter parts here, you know I was this close to getting to do blue and then you were like never mind well, yeah, I don't know you got nervous. Uh, what's the iso? What is the iso?
Speaker 1:under what context?
Speaker 2:yeah, uh, just flakes when you're sitting close to a smaller screen.
Speaker 1:The difference between 1440 and 4k is not that crazy, but the difference between 60 and 120 fps is definitely the bigger quality of life I mean I watch my any streams and videos only at 480p, sometimes 720p yeah, I mean, it's also the thing like if you really want to watch the thing you're not gonna be like well it's not 4k yeah but if that 4k button is there, oh yeah, push that button yeah, uh, looking at m4 macbook pro, base model is 249, 249, 2499 there, it is australian, not bad at all, which is.
Speaker 1:I forget what that is in usd, but it's less than 2499 oh, what's the? Iso on your camera. Uh, what is your iso? It's 160, yeah, 160, with a f 1.4 aperture and a 160th shutter speed there we go and I never touch it.
Speaker 2:Color temperature tom set it up once, and we I just turn it off and on. So there we go.
Speaker 1:I should probably write that down, though, because I just in case I mean, is some of that like this lens, you're not going to do anything but f 1.4. That's the whole point of the lens. You're doing 30 frames a second, so it has to be 1 over 60, and then iso is really the variable there, but we want it to be as low as possible and it's dark stay away from the dark alleys with the sm7 piece.
Speaker 2:I can't believe that that's yeah, it's like a thing how much is the counterfeit?
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:well, a lot of people Are they selling it for the same price and just like oh yeah, this is an SM7.
Speaker 1:In the comments here we're saying if you buy used ones, a lot of times it ends up being a counterfeit one. But I have heard of people, even like on Amazon, buying one, not paying attention to where they're getting it from, not getting it direct from like a reputable place. I don't know how you tell, but maybe Doc knows.
Speaker 2:Charles says, I want to allow for closed captions on my streams, but I also want the lowest latency when streaming to YouTube and you sadly can't at the moment.
Speaker 1:Oh, you need more latency, so there's time to caption it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see.
Speaker 1:Roughly 1,700, says Bailey. Yeah, see, that's not bad for an M4 MacBook Pro.
Speaker 2:I do a 4K TV. I do own a 4k tv, was always using in 1080, but now I have the power I see, oh, so, like on my tv, I I just did this like yesterday. I don't know where you were, but, um, I don't know why, but I I went to the tv and I was like, can this be in 4k? And it was, it was like 1080. And I was like, oh, oh, that's right because the tv is 1080 yeah, this 118 dollar television is only 1080 uh, do tom's hair in cracking colors what are?
Speaker 2:cracking colors, though. Do I know what cracking colors are?
Speaker 1:it's blue, it's just blue you got the dark blue, you got the ice blue and then you got the red oh, how do we do that with your hair?
Speaker 2:I don't know or you're about to find out, you got to do it, whatever the aloha doc rock 1640 oh, doc, you wouldn't know um how.
Speaker 1:How can someone tell that they got a counterfeit sm7b? And where could someone purposely get a counterfeit SM7B?
Speaker 2:Tom, have you thought about testing some of the more budget SDC? I think that world is massively underrepresented for starting content creators. They seem pretty versatile, sdc it's not rings san diego comic-con the budget comic.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's what it is no more budget stream I think podcastage did a video on those systems oh that he seems like someone that would go down the rabbit hole of that uh, captions cannot be real time.
Speaker 2:It has to transcribe. Yeah, I'm going. M4 pro mini like 2800. Uh, I had to spec an m4 macbook pro for someone yesterday and it came out to 71.99 yeah, well, you and I, we can stick with our uh m1 maxes, that's insane. Has tom watched the 1.0 documentaries from noclip?
Speaker 1:yeah, we did watch it, so here's what I wasn't playing yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to re-watch it so when I started playing final fantasy 14 I don't know whenever it was going on two years ago now- two and a half, you know uh, my brother, who's the one who introduced me to the game, was like you need to watch the documentary. So I did and it's awesome. It's incredible. I watched it on the couch and you were kind of just like peeking over, but you hadn't played the game and so I like the story though, but yeah, now knowing more about it it would be fun.
Speaker 2:There's no spoilers in it, right for no, okay, no, because also I don't remember when it was made, but it was like you know but I'm I'm still I'm up to like 2016 in game development years. I think it's that old, okay yeah, uh, and it's mostly on 1.0. Let's see Small diaphragm condenser microphones.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, um, that makes a lot more sense. My, so I've talked about. I've talked about a few of them, but my favorite one which, like I guess there are cheaper budget ones, cause you got, like the NW 800, which is really one of the only products in the world that I just straight up trash and make fun of is the gold microphone. I normally never say like anything is bad.
Speaker 2:That one was bad, though. Yeah, it sucks. That one was like why bother, just use your phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's slightly better versions, and even that one see, that's the problem is like 20 bucks and mine sounds like a drive-through from World War II if they had those back then I was like uh, I see what you were trying to do there but.
Speaker 1:but you could buy one and it could actually sound kind of okay because the quality control and the consistency is not there, whereas like an sm7b, everyone you buy from like when it's they started making it decades ago to today, is going to sound exactly the same. So small diaphragm condenser microphones, my go-to is the Lewitt LCT240 Pro, which I do have multiple videos on and I talk about it all the time because I love that microphone. It's the one you almost it was going to be the one you had if you didn't go with the MP7 when we did the mic tests.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great and it's they lower the price.
Speaker 2:it's like 100 bucks now and it's so, so good uh, let's see silver holographic sticker and check that number on shore website. I'm sticking with the m1 max for at least a decade. That's how I feel too, hello soldier, can I take your order?
Speaker 1:qtu is the best budget mic period yeah, uh, you have that one, I do yeah wow, yo osmosis yeah, the q2u is awesome the samsung u2 because it's 60 to 70.
Speaker 1:Usually it's not a, it's not a condenser, it's a dynamic, it's like a handheld dynamic, but for that price. It comes with the mic, it comes with the windscreen. It comes with a windscreen, it comes with a little stand. I think it even comes with an XLR cable. It's also an XLR and USB microphone so you can plug it in with what you got right now. Um, it has a physical mute switch. Yeah, so it's like. I still see tons of like YouTubers with like million plus channels using the Q2U Cause I think Sam Samsung just sent a bunch out to people who, like you, know they're not in the audio video niche, they're not going to buy another microphone ever and they're just like this is the one I use forever and it works.
Speaker 2:I need the Lewitt Ray. It's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Ray kicks butt.
Speaker 2:When I say small diaphragm condenser microphones, I use it interchangeably with pencil condenser microphones.
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry no it's my brain, it's not your brain. Yes, that is something that I would be actually super interested in doing more videos on hershey se electronics neon yum, yum yum, doc says sm7b have has heavily tested.
Speaker 2:After visiting shore I can tell you, well worth the price after seeing what they do to make it. Yeah, greg says too bad apple didn't release a mouse you could change and use at the same time.
Speaker 1:It's almost like they're trolling us with usbc upgrade I feel I mean I as someone who's moved on from the magic mouse after many years. They basically updated their mouse again. Now it's usbc instead of lightning, but you still have to charge it from the bottom oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:But here's the thing, though I know it would be nice, but the battery in that mouse lasts like three months, so you rarely have to charge it and there is a quick charge option. So I think it's something in like a couple of minutes. It can get you eight hours, so like it's like okay, if it's totally dead you can just leave it for a few minutes and go to the mouse charge thing is a misplaced rage.
Speaker 2:Takes two minutes to charge for eight hours and a full charge is literally three months. There we were on the same page.
Speaker 1:So it's annoying when you're in that time. You're in the middle of something and the mouse dies and you're like oh no, and we got two minutes. You know, sometimes you don't want to interrupt the flow, whereas like if you could just plug it, we're still good with charging all our stuff anyway, so we would never run into that problem? Well, the Magic Mouse, because it lasts so long.
Speaker 2:it's very easy to forget to charge it so, like I have used this mouse twice, I like this one better. I actually might return this one.
Speaker 1:Oh really, you have a clear preference. I can't yeah. What do you like? Sorry, mouse chat.
Speaker 2:We've changed subjects. Uh, I don't even know. Oh, because we were talking about mics. Yeah, like so, I love this mic or mouse mic. Um, this is awesome. And then I wanted to find another one, because I use mouse and keyboard with my playstation 5 and this isn't bluetooth.
Speaker 1:This has to be a dongle.
Speaker 2:It's a dongle situation, yeah, and I was like, oh, this looks the same. I should have just bought another one of the same. But I was like, if I'm using both of them at the same time, because I'm streaming, so one mouse is the computer and then I'm playing, one mouse is the playstation they make it in black, but you don't want the black, I don't want the black yeah, they had a pink one, but it was more of like a it's kind kind of like a toddler, pink, like it's a.
Speaker 2:It's like a salmon pink. It was not a cute pink.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know Whatever. So I looked at other ones. This looked the same. It's the pinky is weird.
Speaker 1:You don't like the pinky.
Speaker 2:I like that. No, I don't To answer your question. I don preferences. I didn't care at first.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see Okay.
Speaker 2:Anyway, let's see, oh see, now See.
Speaker 1:Well, if you have two of the exact same one, how are you going to solve that problem?
Speaker 2:That's why I think I'm not. I think I just have to deal.
Speaker 1:But I mean so the reason these look the same, but they have different logos, so that's a good label.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one's a dragon.
Speaker 1:So I was like oh, dragon, Final Fantasy XIV, and one's like a company logo, but I mean you could just put like a sticker or something on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but then you can feel it, I don't know. Homesick Mac says I'm getting the M4 MacBook Pro with 2040, 48 gigs universal memory and one terabyte of SSD 4,000 in Sweden, taking it on lease through my company. So okay, monthly cost for three years, then it's mine Nice.
Speaker 1:Definitely lasts for three years, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Q9U is big bro.
Speaker 1:There we go.
Speaker 2:Let's see, Tom, how much extra would you pay for a microphone if you could get it in any color, For example?
Speaker 1:if the regular SMC actually answer this question, because colorwarecom, where this microphone came from, um, I think it depends on the mic, but it's usually 50 to 100 more. I think they have sm7bs now over there, um, and that seems they do an amazing job that's this one, yeah um, so let's see what they got. But yeah, so I would pay whatever their price is. I feel is is fair.
Speaker 2:Really quick, though. Greg super chat some chocolate for Halloween.
Speaker 1:We are definitely going to go get some.
Speaker 2:You guys, it's Friday. You know what that means. Time to get some handles.
Speaker 1:One of us has a full bag of Costco Halloween candy that did not get handed out last night.
Speaker 2:Because we decided to stream instead. Well, we also got no trick or treat, we got like one well, tom was over there at the front door peeking out the window like where are the kids? Where are the kids?
Speaker 1:there was nobody.
Speaker 2:It was weird and I was like yeah, and so now there's just a whole giant bag of candy on the kitchen counter. I don't really like chocolate well costco had the all chocolate bag.
Speaker 1:It's a costco bag.
Speaker 2:I got it at costco but yeah, it's reese's snickers, milky way twix and kit kats point is greg, your super chat is going to buy our ice cream that we're going to get as soon as we stop the stream. Yeah, uh, but really quick, let's try to find oh, click on sennheiser what they got.
Speaker 1:What's what they got there?
Speaker 2:let's see, oh, oh, that's cute okay, okay, sennheiser's handheld mic. Sorry, I just wanted to see all right, we're going to shore, oh, oh yeah, look how cute that is. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:look at the ss70s colors. Look at that that's close to ice blue, yeah okay, uh, here oh, click, create.
Speaker 2:Let's see what we this looks awesome, are you kidding?
Speaker 1:so wait, go go up.
Speaker 2:Go up. They're charging $75 $75 to get it colored. Totally worth it. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:And, as we found designing yours, the swatch things that they have on here Are really accurate. Yeah so the way it looks. Yours looks In real life. Looked exactly like it did on the screen.
Speaker 2:When we designed it. Oh, what Is that? Matt matt? Oh, that's matt so my birthday is in a month normally I don't say anything about that there we go okay, looking forward to seeing the sennheiser profile wireless setup oh, yeah, yeah, um, that's on the way. They're sennheiser's little wireless there you go, take a break and remind yourself. To charge with reminders. Logi S3 is the best in the game.
Speaker 1:We need the MMO, we need the numpad on the side.
Speaker 2:Because I got to cast my spells. Let's see, JFK says I charged my MacBook Pro one day and then again this morning. What kind of black magic voodoo batteries are in these?
Speaker 1:see, I love. I love it because you're showing how good they are and like it's a thing oh, colorware, is sure certified yeah, they're not. They're not like voiding your warranty and destroying your mic or anything like, yeah, it's legit.
Speaker 2:Bailey says I'm just out of power.
Speaker 1:The base model m1 macbook air, so definitely need to upgrade there's a huge difference between m1 and m1 max as well, Because M1 Max is like basically four M1s on the same chip. I believe.
Speaker 2:Ernesto, sorry I'm late, but happy Friday, good to see you. We won't say anything if Tom bulks up from the Costco chocolate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 2:Bailey says, I still think Tom should dye his hair blue on the sides and a red stripe on top, just to make it look like Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy. That like yondu from guardians of the galaxy.
Speaker 1:That's funny, uh, ben, get the doc pop for 24 bucks.
Speaker 2:Make it prettier I was using my orange doc pop on our stream last night. I can't tell you how many people love the doc pop because it was perfect for how I didn't think I was gonna like the pink I'm surprised.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm really happy you stuck with it, but I'm surprised you stuck with it. It looks, yeah, it looks so good. If you put the black one on there, it looks really like sad and sad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now I can't imagine. But now I'm curious about the other colors.
Speaker 1:But see, look, I don't but yeah, that's an easy way to.
Speaker 2:That is an easy way to change the color of the mic uh, if you're already spending 400, an extra 75 for some cool colors definitely worth it.
Speaker 1:It's definitely worth it and it's like it's so worth it. It it does not look like someone else painted it or whatever, like it looks like it came that way from the factory. How long have we had this now?
Speaker 2:Three years, three years. Yeah, this part is the blue part is matte and then the purple is gloss. Yeah, so you can, you can really customize it.
Speaker 1:And then you got to choose the white up here as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And maybe those were the only things Officenubecom Currently using the.
Speaker 2:Rodecaster Duo 810 Mini and thinking of replacing them with the Rodecaster Videos. Are there anything missed about your prior setup versus the Rodecaster Video?
Speaker 1:No, well, it's really. I mean it depends. No, To answer your question. No, because the Rodecaster Video basically has a RDECaster Duo built inside of it, just with less physical controls, but all the capabilities and quality are there. The thing I was going to say was if you I don't know if you're going to sell your RODECaster and your ATEM to fund the RODECaster video, but if you keep the RODECaster Duo and, down the line, you ever decide you want more inputs on the RODECaster video or to use the physical faders, you can run it through usb and get that direct connection.
Speaker 2:So there you go um. It's kind of the best of all worlds. Uh, homesick mac can vouch and praise for colorware.
Speaker 1:My mv7 turned out great yeah, it's cool, they added so many more mics.
Speaker 2:Gosh that see like okay, for the gamers who are here, you guys, there's like uh, controllers and stuff consoles, everything nintendo yeah look at that.
Speaker 1:I mean like come on.
Speaker 2:That is.
Speaker 1:That's like that was exactly tom's yeah, I just want that one, just right here, you and ob so I feel like that this is you guys yes, please yeah, I feel like color just makes everything, makes you happy when you look at it. You know, I don't know why more stuff isn't like cool colors. Well, now it is.
Speaker 2:I feel like you know, yeah, I don't know why more stuff isn't like cool colors. Well, now it is.
Speaker 1:I feel like you know, it was real big in like well, obviously like the 90s and stuff were big on colors, but then in like around 2010, bright, bold colors were big, and then the 20-teens to now, everything got like muted, minimal Dark gray or light gray. Like what would you like? I?
Speaker 2:know, light gray like what would you like? I know, yeah, I know, when tom and I buy stuff for the house, we have to go to the kids section because that's how you get the fun cool patterns.
Speaker 1:We got the kid alexa.
Speaker 2:We got the kid alexa we got the kid rug for. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, because like ruggable we bought a rug for our entrance. We walk in through the front door from ruggablecom and they're like machine washable rugs. This is sounding like a sponsor it's entrance. When you walk in through the front door from ruggablecom and they're like machine washable rugs, this is sounding like a sponsor, it's not when you have dogs that sometimes throw up, it's nice to be able to throw the washing machine, but like it's all, like I don't know, whatever there wasn't.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're, you know our vibe, we're all about the bright.
Speaker 1:There was no bright, it was all muted, like even like the blue version is like sad blue, like muted, yeah, yeah anyway.
Speaker 2:Uh, let's see, got my doc pops yesterday yeah, my pod mice are happy and colorful. Um, oh, I missed some. Lacy says I got a mac, an m3 pro, and it was crazy fast upgrade from the m1, but I did love my M1.
Speaker 1:It served me well.
Speaker 2:Jfk says I'm diabetic, but my doctor says chocolate and assorted peanuts, cashews etc are okay the store.
Speaker 1:I go. You got the nut protein.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, there's a lot of M&Ms in that batch.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's M&Ms too. There's peanut and chocolate M&Ms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Hershey bars there's a lot, although I have weird feelings about the Hershey's and you know who's not going to eat any of them, because I'm just not into the chocolate.
Speaker 1:I was genuinely like planning to give it all away.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, this was not like, that's why you went to Costco I told you I'm 38. That's why you went to.
Speaker 1:Costco If I want to buy candy. Oh, I'm going to take some Reese's and put them in the freezer and then the rest will go to the kids.
Speaker 2:But now the whole thing is here. Oh, my goodness, I'm so hungry now. Yeah, tom, are the preamps and Streamer X the same ones that you would find in the Rodecaster Pro?
Speaker 1:Yes, Exactly the same. Rodecaster Pro Rodecaster Duo. Rodecaster Video Streamer X always having fun.
Speaker 2:Stream randall's here. Hello everyone. I gave up on the road streamer x for the podcast mic because of echoing and not not enough for the volume. Interesting echoing is greg says, reminds me of yondo floating and saying I'm mary poppins, y'all. I'm mary poppins, y'all I really like I could like hear it in my head jfk. I need a chelsea fc skin for my mac go team office noob super chat.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:Lots of ice cream thank you, yeah, uh, I was gonna say you are funding our our next handles trip, which will probably be sunday yeah, they know us so they literally yes or no, not yesterday we didn't go yesterday, we're trying. It's a. It's getting good. It's a problem, but we're trying not to go every day. But the last time we went the owner literally came out the window and was like same time tomorrow.
Speaker 2:He was like no, yeah, sorry, I'll never be here again and I was like, yeah, bye, we have different reactions to things. I don't know. Let's see, I actually regret painting my studio in black oil paint. Yeah, we need to repaint the book nook, which is black. Let's see Spongebob voice chocolate. I don't know what that is. Have you seen this episode? No, I haven't seen a ton of Spongebob.
Speaker 1:I haven't either. I missed't know what that is. Have you seen?
Speaker 2:this episode. No, I haven't seen a ton of SpongeBob. I haven't either. I missed the boat on that one. So has anyone ever did a trick or joke instead of a treat?
Speaker 1:That would be quite the treat.
Speaker 2:Well, you can end our stream with a joke.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Really quick. Just check Now. I got this laptop at the start of the year. I knew I should have got more powerful model. Also, I may be coming to NAB next year.
Speaker 1:Yet to be sighted in.
Speaker 2:Fingers Crossed. I might be working something out with Aaron Parecki. Oh my gosh, Bailey, it would be so awesome to meet you in person. That would be incredible. Yeah, and everyone mark your calendars. We're going to NAB, everybody go. Yeah, also homesick Mac, our third handle. He says coffee, all right, let's joke.
Speaker 1:Our doctor is just freaking out over there right now. I know, okay. Well, do you know why the scarecrow speaking of awards and recognition, why the scarecrow on Halloween got an award?
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Because he was outstanding in his field.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's cute and and clever time to clear the table, y'all that was great oh yeah, bye.
Speaker 1:Have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest. Sorry, I was reading, uh, just flinks's tom's nab videos are my favorite thank you oh okay, somebody went off on my nab video last week that they were like usually your videos are value-packed every minute, but this is just a waste of time. It's annoying and I was like good lord.
Speaker 2:I was like, did you leave it up?
Speaker 1:The comment.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I deleted it. I should have left it up, so people could be able to look it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, horrible person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, peace out.
Speaker 2:Anyway, alright, horrible person, yeah, anyway. Anyway, all right, thank you. Have a happy friday, have an awesome rest of your weekend, everybody, and have a great november. With that said, we'll catch you next week. Bye, see ya, bye.