The Couple's Table
The Couple’s Table is a weekly livestream podcast hosted by Heather Ramirez and Tom Buck. Join us, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, as long as we both shall podcast and stuff!
The Couple's Table
Renewal, Regulations, and Revelations: Navigating YouTube's Creative Landscape
What really happens behind the scenes with FTC regulations on YouTube? We navigate the mysteries of compliance, exploring the line between buying views and visibility, and the ethical considerations creators face. Join our deep dive into the world of AI, from realistic voiceovers to the thorny ethics of AI-generated testimonials. We candidly discuss how these tools can enhance content creation while also navigating the minefield of sponsorship disclosures and international regulations.
As we wrap up, let’s celebrate the vibrant community that makes content creation on platforms like YouTube so rewarding. Discover the power of meeting fans in person, the inspirations from fellow creators in a recent YouTube Huddle Up, and the lessons learned from balancing audience expectations with creative integrity. Through stories of tech enthusiasts and gaming channel collaborations, we highlight the importance of community-driven creativity and the endless learning journey that comes with being a creator. Join us for an episode filled with insights, laughter, and a shared passion for content creation.
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Hello and welcome. My name is Tom and I'm Heather and you're sitting at the couples table.
Speaker 2:The couples table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse for richer or poorer?
Speaker 1:In sickness and in health on Thursday instead of Friday this week. Maybe I should, just to be safe.
Speaker 2:I forgot, we weren't here last week either. We weren't because it was our anniversary. Yay, it was our Seven. Seven year anniversary either. We weren't because it was our anniversary. Yay, it was our seven. Oh my god, seven year anniversary. Tom's checking the audio, that's good god, that was.
Speaker 1:I have been having friction in every interaction with like technology today, and it is so frustrating. I was trying to double tap to go back to listen and instead it was just putting my volume up and down.
Speaker 2:Well, you have like one more thing, I think.
Speaker 1:One more tech thing. Like not move, I need to be. You need to sit there and just talk. That's all is expected of you today no touching or moving or anything.
Speaker 2:Anyway, hello everybody. Today I feel like we have. We there's been, it's been two weeks yeah so, uh, tomorrow we are doing um, we talked about it before, but we're doing this like leadership development program and tomorrow is one of the sessions, which is why we can't stream tomorrow and we're streaming today. Um, and then it was our anniversary last week, so we have a lot to catch up on yeah, yeah, if we can mustard up the courage mustard up the courage.
Speaker 2:So let's check over the comments. First is homesick mac yay, good to see you. Shotgun studio is here, hello hello, jeremy. Second, not as cool as homesick mac, don is here. Hello everyone bailey. Funnily enough, it's still friday.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's so weird you actually get to see a friday episode now uh don says happy anniversary.
Speaker 2:Yay, homestay mac. And I was the first to hit that like button. Boom, undecided toy store hello. I love this emoji. That's gonna be the next week's thumbnail anyway, so everything's over in uh Tombaugh land.
Speaker 1:Good overall.
Speaker 2:Today's been a little bit of a frustrating day. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's just one of those things Like some days everything goes smoothly, some days everything goes smoothly and other days it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Don't? I know it. Well, today we're going to be talking about just some like updates, like things that we've been talking about between the two of us in the last two weeks, I think, some YouTube updates.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had some stuff we were going to talk about last week and we were really on the fence Like should we have a show, Should we not have a show?
Speaker 2:I know Well, do you want to talk about that a little bit?
Speaker 1:How you took your time off. Sure, yeah, I took a four-day break. When was the last time you took a break like 2023? Okay, we are not letting that happen again. The other couple times I've, like, taken time off work, it's been four things like visiting my parents or something.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know that's fun and enjoyable but it's not really a break and then you just jump right back into catching up on everything you missed. We did that. So this was like what I really wanted was to take time off where there was not really anything scheduled and it was just home time, to have like back, like back being a teacher. When it's like the middle of summer vacation, you actually do have some unscheduled days to just like do as much or a little of whatever as you want it's really nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, huge for you yeah some like pretty big breakthrough things, I think yeah, it was just. It's just mentally it's very good yeah, I think the thing that tom and I struggle with sometimes or for me it's like been very evident lately with the gaming channel is like every day we wake up and the possibilities are endless and so it's like you go through okay for me.
Speaker 2:I go through every minute thinking like am I gonna stream today? Do we make a video today? Do we make social media clips? Do we like there's so many things to work on, whereas, and the thing like obviously we are married and we love this stuff we are so it's like it. It really is hard to like find the line because it's it's like right, we would be doing it anyway yeah, we're not. And that's the. That's like a problem sometimes. Yeah, it's great on.
Speaker 1:It's great sometimes because you're like I am doing a thing right now that I need to be doing, but it's fun, yeah. But the flip side is like oh, when was last time? There was like literally a day where I just didn't turn that part of my brain on, and then it can be like a year and a half yeah, so let's not do that yeah, let's, let's uh prioritize.
Speaker 2:All right, freddy's here happy anniversary. Undecided toy store is asking how the msq journey is going it's so fun I am.
Speaker 1:We're talking about final fantasy 14. Uh, it is.
Speaker 2:I'm in stormblood and it's great, like I really really like stormblood a lot I was gonna say something on the stream last night and I something happened and then I forgot. Oh, but the thing I wanted to say is I'm actually a little bit nervous at how many new people I've introduced.
Speaker 1:We have introduced final fantasy 14 nervous why, if they don't like it or I feel like it's.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's a game that you might need a little bit of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, there's I never in my life would have thought that I would be playing it's not tetris, or you know, I don't know duck hunt yeah, you know, I don't know Duck Hunt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, like I feel like I guess the reason why I'm worried is because the people I'm thinking of have they don't strike me as gamers, so there's a little bit more of a gap. Anyway, it's not the topic of the couple's table.
Speaker 1:What I can say, though, is that, as someone who didn't fall into that niche and is playing it like, not only do I have you and lots of resources.
Speaker 1:but the game itself does a really good job of kind of holding your hand, especially at the beginning, and like, if you think of it as oh my God, I'm going into an MMORPG, like of course, then it's like very overwhelming. But if you just play the game, if you just turn it on, listen to the things it tells you to do, like it actually guides you through really well.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go, so I shouldn't have to worry I don't think so. Sure, we have a show.
Speaker 1:Sure do.
Speaker 2:Bon is here. Hey, bon, happy Thursday.
Speaker 1:Speak of, not the devil. Final Fantasy.
Speaker 2:Okay, so where do you want to start?
Speaker 1:Well, you said you had stuff to show me. We were talking about youtube.
Speaker 2:I forget what order was our title in today uh, youtube updates well, so here's the thing that I want to share, and I'm going to pull it up so we can read it together okay, have I seen this? No oh awesome. I saw this at 1 30.m when I couldn't sleep this morning, so check this out.
Speaker 1:Oh, I actually just was reading an article about this.
Speaker 2:Oh really, yeah, Well I'm very curious because I feel like this is kind of a big deal. So I saw this post this morning. The ftc officially bans fake online reviews, which are now considered fraud and include fines of over fifty thousand dollars. Uh, let's see no more buying reviews using ai generated testimonials and suppressing negative feedback. Well, at least not legally. Yesterday, ftc announced that the ban was gone to effect with the goal of protecting consumers and honest businessmen and women. Fake reviews not only waste people's time and money, but also pollute the marketplace and divert business away from honest companies. Blah, blah, blah blah. So here are the practices that are now forbidden businesses can't buy reviews, uh, which I feel like is not really something that creators have to worry about. I don't think.
Speaker 1:Um I mean I don't. I don't know that this talks in the youtube space, but I mean they're you know this is a.
Speaker 2:This, to me, is a big one. Right here, businesses can't misuse social media indicators, so you can no longer legally buy followers or impressions well, buying followers is huge.
Speaker 1:Buying followers is against terms of service on, like every platform oh, I didn't know that buying follow like buying followers that I had no idea.
Speaker 2:And people do it so often and I'm like what the heck? Yeah, well, yeah, it's I mean to be clear. We don't do that, have never done that.
Speaker 1:Do not condone it, but like theory, it would get your, it could get your account deleted. It's against every term of the service. But buying impressions, though when, like I don't know if that means like boosting, like when a brand runs an ad and they can boost their post or whatever, is that that?
Speaker 2:I think. Well, in YouTube terms, to me it's views. You're buying views.
Speaker 1:Oh, so buying followers and views Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so buying, you know, because this is only one line. I haven't seen the whole thing. I think it's like buying engagement comments likes views, you know, yeah, thumbs up, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, then you end up with you see a feed in a post in your feed. That is a product and it has all these great reviews and, wow, there's 30,000 likes on this and half a million people saw it.
Speaker 2:And I think, like I don't know. I think I don't know. Well, let's say this the reason why I do not condone buying views is because, I mean, I don't even know how to explain it's dumb. Well, it's not dumb, it's just like it, doesn't it? You're not buying the thing that you think you're buying right it's not working the way that you think it's working.
Speaker 2:So like, to me it is so obvious when an account has, say I don't know, 50 000 subscribers and then your videos only have like 75 views, to me that's an indication that maybe some of your subscribers are fake, because the ratio is like weird, like it's very, you know, like there's not a lot of engagement with your existing audience, uh, and then when you buy, you know fake views and impressions and etc, etc. They're not really actually interacting with your content. They don't care about you, they're just doing their job. Bots or whoever is doing it, uh, but I I see it all the time still yeah, so I'm curious very common so my question to you is I, I actually feel, I actually I'm kind of embarrassed.
Speaker 1:Here. You're like nervous.
Speaker 2:No, I'm tired, okay I'm also very excited for handles yeah, me too um no, the thing that I'm a little embarrassed to admit is like I don't know. We're supposed to follow the ftc, right? Is that just folded into youtube terms? Because the ftc, that's just a us thing yeah so it's not like just because the ftc says it doesn't mean that youtube creators have to abide well, youtube, I don't know, I don't know the finer points.
Speaker 1:I know youtube's a us based company, so I think, I feel like, even I feel like the things apply.
Speaker 2:Like does this apply to YouTube creators? I guess, if you're a business as a YouTube creator, if you are getting paid, there's some kind of commercial exchange which to me is like if you are monetizing your content, if you're a YouTube partner, you are a business.
Speaker 1:I think there's a lot of gray area that we figured out as this becomes a thing thing because, yeah, like, like I mean right there the thing like impressions. Okay, you, you took that as buying views, I took that as buying like visibility. Buying views is against every platform's term of service. Buying visibility and impressions like getting your thing to be shown, oh I see like I, every platform offers that on their business profiles okay, instagram facebook even youtube, you can buy like pushing it out.
Speaker 1:Make something an ad and push it out like how many you can. You literally, when you buy an ad, you go like I'm buying 50 000 impressions. That's how you buy. The ad is like how many views you want it to get.
Speaker 1:And that's why YouTube got in a bunch of trouble last year, because they were they were misrepresenting what a view or an impression was on an ad. It's supposed to be a native thing. And suddenly it was counting all this embedded stuff where the things weren't playing properly but essentially companies were paying for ads or plays or whatever they never actually got. So I feel like that's. I feel like that's not illegal, because it's also always very clearly labeled and a huge part of these companies business models. So buying whatever that is. I can't imagine that going away. But buying fake views, buying fake followers.
Speaker 2:Okay, so here's another point that I want to bring up with you. Business-owned websites can't misrepresent their reviews, so businesses now also can't misrepresent that the reviews for their products on one of their websites are independent, when the website is in fact, owned by the business. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1:The reviews for their products on one of their websites are independent. I guess it's like you're on.
Speaker 2:Amazon versus your business page.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you know how like I see this a lot because I watch a lot of those YouTube videos that are like I bought every Instagram ad for a month or whatever. And when they're buying the things, they go to the product website and it's some weird goofy thing you've never seen in your life. But it's got, you know, 4.9 star reviews and everything.
Speaker 2:There's like no critical reviews because the website is obviously curating, the manufacturer is hosting and they're not going to let the negative reviews and I've even watched videos where people will like they get the thing, it sucks.
Speaker 1:They leave a negative review and it never shows up. Yeah, but then positive reviews. After the date they try to do, their negative review do show up. So I feel like that is what they're saying. That's miss, that's not having like a snippet, like posting a review on a website that just says like this product is great, tom, like a testimonial is different than here's reviews. This product is a 4.9 star product or whatever.
Speaker 2:Okay, so no more negative review suppression. Businesses can no longer use groundless legal threats to get a person to remove or not post a negative review of the business product. I feel like we were kind of already going in that direction, but here's the one that I find very, very interesting no ai testimonials. A business cannot use an ai generated persona to give a testimonial for its products what is a testimonial is persuasion out of a job we're talking about.
Speaker 1:This is where I'm confused with If you have an AI voice that's just saying this is the, Not that Rode does this, but I'm looking at a Rodecaster. So if you have an AI voice that says like the Rodecaster Duo gives two XLR inputs and can be a good streaming thing, sound effects, onboard processing just kind of a featureless, like reading an ad for it. That's not a test, a persona really giving a testimonial, but the thing of, like my boyfriend bought me a couple episodes ago on the couple's table.
Speaker 2:We watched an ad where it was it was for like a pill pack holder yeah, like a pill holder for your purse.
Speaker 2:The person had a whole story about how their boyfriend invented this thing, but it was clearly an ai voice, totally an ai voice yeah which I had a problem with because I was like I think it's so convincing, like in a very false advertising kind of way, it's like very manipulative, where you're telling this story about you and your boyfriend and you had this. Like you have so much medication, you know you can't like sort it, and then it's like connecting with you on a human level. But this is ai and this story is fake. Yeah, there is no boyfriend yeah, yeah, so so is that banned?
Speaker 1:it will testimonials, it says. But the thing that's interesting, though, is like okay, that goes into like paid actors, you know where it's like real customers, not. Isn't that the same thing when someone's like wow, wow, this medication really changed my life and it's like you've never had this medical condition?
Speaker 2:Anyway, so we will delve more into this topic. Andre, hey everyone. Is it Friday already? Did I miss a day? You did not. Tom and I are just going to be out?
Speaker 1:No, you did. It's Friday. What are you talking about? Let's mess with this whole world.
Speaker 2:Because if it's Friday, I'm seriously late with the roller skates. I'm mountain right now. Randall, love the color coordination. Would you rather have views, subscribers or likes? That's a question. Also, $20 super chat. I see your baby on the lovely couch has upgraded himself from the floor. Oh my god, look at that.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, look at ben. Oh my god, he got over, scoot over. Can you see? Oh my gosh, look at him. He's tired because he got groomed yesterday, and that is always an exhausting experience for him dude, you need to do the ndi. We have to show everybody this he's so he's, so I've never been this comfortable in my life as he is right now.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, we gotta unlock the scene.
Speaker 2:Oh, he knows he woke up. He knows we were talking about him.
Speaker 1:He's still extremely comfy Hi. Ben, he was just passed out eyes shut before. It was very cute.
Speaker 2:That was adorable, okay, anyway, thank you for the super chat.
Speaker 1:Randall. Thanks, Randall.
Speaker 2:Sammy Superstar is here. Hey everyone. Very cute, that was adorable. Okay, anyway, thank you for the super chat. Randall, sammy superstars here. Hey everyone, jeremy, have you guys seen runway yet? We are just a few steps removed from total recall matrix terminator time folks I've only seen runways at the airport.
Speaker 2:Runway is the website a runway me is the website randall says you know when it is an ai, when the individual that they are describing an individual and get the gender is wrong. There's so many other ways it I mean is the website randall says you know when it is an ai, when the individual that they are describing an individual and get the gender is wrong. There's so many other ways it I mean. I feel like I can sniff it out pretty well. I have seen a lot of ai reviews on amazon like so many.
Speaker 1:I'm like because it's like the perfect spelling and grammar.
Speaker 2:The word delve shows up often and it's just no one ever uses ever it's a stage.
Speaker 1:It's almost like the recipe things like. I was searching for the perfect office chair and you know what. You know what makes a good chair it's got to be comfortable, durable and something that you can sit in every day. You don't know no average consumer we've all felt that painful feeling when your back isn't supported after a long day of hard work.
Speaker 1:It's like like as a creator, fine, because you know you're talking to an audience, but the whole point of user review is like yeah, well then you see the part where it's like the chair is pretty good, but like butt hurts sometimes, and you're like that's a real review, uh so yeah, I, I just I I feel like, um, I'm just curious because I don't know if this is something that gets enforced on YouTube, which I feel like all of these things are a huge problem.
Speaker 2:Let me ask.
Speaker 1:AI.
Speaker 2:But it's like the thing that I was reading when I was digging into this at 1.30 in the morning uh, it's only, it's only things that get reported. So if it'sa reporting system, I have very low faith that anything will get enforced, which is why I asked whether this was in the youtube terms of service. But then it's like if the ftc is only us, then you can't really add it to the youtube terms of service because, like, what about you know youtube creators in other countries? I don't know. Uh, let's see, ai and storyblocks are hand in hand. Um, do you store blocks or have you ever I?
Speaker 1:don't use stock footage, but I like ai voices yeah and I actually I, which is something I didn't really expect to defend as much as I do or even feel as strongly about as I do. Sorry I was. I was uh, okay, I asked chat. I asked ai um, are youtube creators beholden to fcc rules? And it said yes, youtube creators are subject to FTC rules, particularly those governing advertising, sponsorships and endorsements.
Speaker 2:We are.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it says disclosure. It really went into depth, but it says some guidelines to keep in mind are disclosures of sponsored content, truthful and non-deceptive content, how you use affiliate links and commission child-directed content, and then influencer guidelines. It is the creator's responsibility to comply with FTC rules. Brands are held responsible too, but creators are on the hook for their own disclosures, and this is something that I've actually brought up with companies that I have known. Creators to get large paychecks from companies make videos and not mention the very large five-figure paychecks in their videos and I've brought that up to the companies said like here's a thing, like what's the deal?
Speaker 2:I know what you did, yeah, and they sent you and they're very honest.
Speaker 1:They're like that is not our like.
Speaker 1:We didn't, the responsibility is not on them they said we didn't direct them not to do that. That is up to the creator. And and like we don't police. Which I mean like. And then I was thinking like, yeah, I guess it isn't up to you to police. Like you're paying someone for a thing, they do it Like you know. If you I don't know if this is an equivalent thing, but if you hire an electrician to do some work, Right, and it turns out they just stole a bunch of copper pipe from a construction site.
Speaker 2:Like you don't know that well, you don't know if like they're doing it above board or you're kind of trusting their professionalism, exactly, uh.
Speaker 1:But then I asked chat what about creators that are not based in the united states? And it said even if youtube creators are not based in the us, they may still be subject to ftc rules if their content or audience involves uS viewers or US companies.
Speaker 2:Creators should also be aware of their own country's advertising laws.
Speaker 1:The FTC can pursue action against non-US creators if their content targets a US audience or involves US-based brands or advertisers. Platforms like YouTube operate globally and content can cross borders, so even international creators may fall under FTC scrutiny. Yeah, the thing is like most creators are too small. Content can cross borders, so even international creators may fall under FTC scrutiny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the thing is like most creators are too small and enforcement and reporting If that's the system that we're working on then it's all I do feel like you know me and you obviously try to.
Speaker 2:You know, integrity is a priority for us, so I feel like it's important for us to know these things. Not that we do any of these things are even thought about, so you know. But I do think it's interesting because I feel like so much commerce is done through youtube. You know whether it might not be directly on the platform, but a lot of our revenue is through affiliate revenue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and I think it's.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of our revenue is through affiliate revenue. Yeah, you know, and I think a lot of creators make money through affiliate revenue, and so it's just important when things like this come out, where it's like well, what are we allowed to, even I mean.
Speaker 1:I see creators literally every time I go on YouTube breaking affiliate rules, probably without realizing it, and some get called out and punished for it and some don't, and it's it's I don't know how that. You know, it's a hard thing to police, I suppose, but some people don't even realize what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So anyway, leave it at that. That was my thing. Let's see. Randall says Jeff Neville, on his live stream, had recorded a video without sound, used ai for the voice and it did great job describing the clip. Unfortunately, it sounded better than him, uh, just like four, and doing disinformation about persons running for elections well, that never happens.
Speaker 1:Um, that's interesting to use the ai voice to describe stuff. I've only used the ai voice like text to speech, basically but, which text to speech technology has been around for a while, but not with the emotion and inflection you can put behind it.
Speaker 2:Or it sounds like a person, or it sounds like an actual person. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that has been like very interesting.
Speaker 2:Before it was just like the phone operator, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:It was just like that robot voice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like ha-ha. I am reading the words you typed Ha-ha Haha, but, but, but, but, but. At least that's what I typed. I was 12.
Speaker 2:So what's up on your end?
Speaker 1:I don't know. All kinds of different things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you have something you're trying to lead me towards?
Speaker 2:No, I was just checking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't. Oh, okay, I mean, there's all different things. I had some interesting screenshots and things, but I can't. I can't seem to remember or find all of them, because I also don't remember which devices I screenshot them on.
Speaker 2:You're not synced not all in that cloud life, because then?
Speaker 1:everything gets too mucky oh and other devices fill up with stuff. I don't want them to pretty sure it's on there which one am I looking for? Um my computer screenshots don't sync here. I think that's what I was looking for it was a.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's the ai comment that is on here. Yeah, you were talking about that, talking about ai voices. Yeah, let's just talk about that.
Speaker 1:So I have done three, uh, sponsored video. Well, sorry, I've done three sponsored videos for ai voiceover services, two for art list, one for motion array okay, um, actually, let me pull up the video that you are gonna talk about yeah, um which one was it?
Speaker 1:the desk tour okay so this was an interesting thing. When art list first reached out last summer and was like, hey, we're doing you know, I've done art list sponsorships. I've said this many times 2017, I literally clicked sign up for YouTube before I made a video to anything. Then I went Artlist and signed up for Artlist because I was like I want to be real legit, so I've used Artlist forever. They reached out in like 2019, 2020, wanted to do a sponsored thing, and I was like I don't know, I hate money, apparently. And so it was like another year or two before I actually did a sponsored video with them and I've done several with them, which made sense because they've been great to work with and I've used them for many years.
Speaker 1:Last summer, they were like hey, want to do a sponsored video, but we're doing this AI voiceover thing. We'd like for you to do that. And my initial reaction was no, thank you. Like I'll do, because they've done that before. Like hey, you want to do a thing for, like, our stock footage service and stuff. And I'm like, no, I don't use stock footage. So actually, it's not that it's bad, it's just like I can't really speak or promote a service that I don't use. And so the AI voiceover thing. I was like, yeah, my channel is mostly about like teaching people how to use microphones, how to record good audio, all that kind of stuff To do it yourself.
Speaker 1:Kind of the opposite of a fake voice, and so my response was no. And then you and I were talking about it and actually like, okay, well, let's think about this. And I actually thought about times where it would have really been such a huge help like a lifesaver, a day saver, whatever stress saver to be able to have those, not necessarily in my workflow as a YouTube creator, but in audio video production workflows, yes. And so I was like you know what? Now I actually understand how there's a need for this. I understand where it fits. The big thing for me is that, like AI tools are very easy to demonize because they can be super scary and we don't know where they're going, and I fully get all that. That's my impulses to feel that way right but they're also not going away.
Speaker 1:So, you know, I think the ai bubble will burst where, like, everything needs to have ai in it. You know, here's a water bottle with ai. Like okay, I think that's gonna pop and things will like chill a little bit Come back yeah.
Speaker 1:But it'll. It'll settle into a thing where it's not going away. So at a certain point you're going to be the person who's like you can't use a calculator because then you'll never know math, and it's like, okay, but yeah it's. You know it's 2024 and I have a calculator with me at all times.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so I all time so yeah, um. So I feel like contextualizing is important yeah. So when you got the offer, the pitch, we both were like nope, ai, no, uh, especially because it's not like, it's not necessarily it's against ai, but you're such a huge proponent of do it yourself yes, of like you.
Speaker 2:Just you show everyone all these things of how, like, empower them to do it themselves, right, but what you were saying is that there are many use cases where a creator is not necessarily front facing, like they're not in front of the camera a thing that I like is when it's.
Speaker 1:There are so many cases when ai it's not ai, or voiceover artist or actor it's ai or nothing, yeah, and so here's a good example. The thing I was thinking, uh, back in 2015 actually it was the first day of summer break- okay the end of the school year my students had been working on a promotional video for our school districts, like programs all throughout school district had bought ad space, I'm assuming following ftc guidelines at local movie theaters and before movies were playing, they were going to do a thing here's all the programs that the school district has to offer, so students would want to enroll in their schools, and so my students in the digital media program put that together and the commercial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the there. We didn't record a voiceover because the district said we have someone who's gonna do a voiceover, so we just need the finished video with the music and everything and then we'll record the voiceover, send it over there. Okay, first day of summer vacation students are gone. School's closed.
Speaker 2:I'm at home in my swim trunks.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing anything. I get a phone call from the district saying our our promotional thing is due tomorrow and our voiceover person is no longer available. Can you get one of your students to do this? And I was like no, I don't, I don't believe or not.
Speaker 1:don't have contacts, don't, don't do not have, don't talk to them a lot throughout the summer and classrooms closed, I don't even have my keys, turn those in for the summer, like I can't even go there if I wanted to and everything's disassembled, even if we did, and they're like is there anything you can do? So it ends up with me taking like a very basic audio recorder that I didn't know how to use into the guest room here and trying to record a strip Like the school district offers programs in, you know, health care, public service and digital media. Like just trying to do that and sending it in. That played in the movie theaters for two years it wasn't two years With your voice, with my voice. It happened with us. I recorded that years before we met and there were times where we walked in the movie theater and my voice was going, oh my God. And, of course, like no one, one's gonna know when I walk, I had to turn around and leave.
Speaker 1:But of course it's that guy's voice like they're not even listening. But, um, you know, part of that's kind of cool, like wow, your thing's in the movie theater. But the stress, the chaos and then the less than great product because I this is before I even started my youtube channel and I didn't have all the resources and I'm literally like holding a. It's essentially like if I were holding my phone in a guest room and recording a voiceover.
Speaker 1:It would have been so nice if they could have just the person who's just at their office with zero recording equipment, could just go, type in a thing, do a couple takes of it, get it to work and now you have like an actual you know what sounds like a professional quality voiceover.
Speaker 1:Your deadline is made all that. Just the other day I was looking at cars at local car dealerships, for whatever reason, and one local car dealership. They have photos of each individual car but they also have a little video that shows that has the features and should like walk around to the car, but there's an AI voiceover for every video. That's like this whatever this car has this feature and does whatever, and I'm like, okay, this is a way easier way than me trying to like look through the crummy website, go through the photo, like seeing this video is actually much easier and hearing all the features that it has. No local car dealership is going to record. Have somebody record their voice for every vehicle they get yeah, but copy and pasting a product description into an ai thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, helps them a lot.
Speaker 2:So it's like there are cases where it it was just either nothing it's not taking away.
Speaker 1:There's cases where it's either nothing, a subpar product, or an ai voice which actually makes it better, and that's where it's like okay. That's why I have said um, it's been cool, because the time I have done the stuff for the AI voiceover, I've not been given a script or anything. Every sponsor segment I've ever done I just I write it, and something I've included in all of them are when it's not practical or possible for you to be the one behind the mic, then you got this Because it's like okay, sometimes it is even if you have all this stuff. It's not practical, maybe it's not possible, but you need to record a voice saying stuff.
Speaker 1:Here's a solution yeah and so I know that those things can be abused and they can be used for weird things, because, of course, everything can, but I think it's it's kind of cool to highlight ways that they can be used well. Yeah, uh, it's long it's okay.
Speaker 2:Audio hotline says hey youtube. Hey we hope you're doing well homesick mac says all ai videos with tom are so original. Nobody else did anything similar to how tom incorporated the ai voices. But see, that's what I think you do so well is like I feel like I mean, this is your whole thing. Is contextualizing is like yes, this is scary, of course, the gut reaction is like I feel like the gut reaction with a lot of technology is like this is evil yeah, how, how is this gonna like, take away, you know, ruin things, blah, blah, blah, um.
Speaker 2:But the thing with us is we're also, uh, I don't know tech adapters.
Speaker 1:You know, like we're we, we are youtube creators and by choice, you know, yeah, we're for eight years now, uh, and so I think what we have always done is tried to see a different way to use these things well I mean, we've talked about it many times on here like if this is something you want to keep doing for a long time it's also a fast changing field and industry and like if you, if you, just dig your heels in the sand and keep doing things only one way forever, it's not going to be something you can do for a long time. So like understanding contextualizing doesn't always mean embracing everything.
Speaker 2:But I think the thing to bring up that would be interesting for this discussion is like ai is a very, uh, important issue and I feel like you provided kind of a different perspective which you didn't have to do right um, but when you scroll through the comments of tom's video that has this sponsorship in it a lot of people it's like a positive yeah, that's happened on all three so far they've been largely I mean mostly 95 positive response, which you know you do a sponsored thing.
Speaker 1:Obviously you don't want people to be mad about it. But you know, at best typically you're kind of like maybe people just ignore it, like nobody says anything. But to the fact people go like wow, that was the best sponsor segment I saw. Or like really love this. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 2:Well, so you did get this comment, though. Yeah, hey, tom, really disappointed in the sponsor of this video. Whenever I come across your videos, I found them enthusiastic, honest and helpful. That sells AI replicated voiceovers. When voice actors have been striking since July to protect against companies training on their own voices and then replacing them with services like this feels, at best, tone deaf. While nothing can be done about this video, I really hope you'll reconsider working with generative AI sponsors in the future.
Speaker 1:That person. So there's a lot I really like the way they brought up their point.
Speaker 2:You can bring up a disagreement diplomatically without being rude yes and without yes, like yeah I, I, it's so refreshing. You know it's like it's nice that like it doesn't have to be all or nothing. You know it's like oh, I used to watch all your videos, but now you did this, like you know, yeah that's what somebody did the other day on my nab video, the one where like I'm talking about nab.
Speaker 1:Is this amazing experience? Like usually, your videos are like value packed every second and there's things like this just annoying unsubbed and I'm like wow yeah, and I think most of the people here have seen that nab video.
Speaker 2:It's the video. That person has problems such a like heartfelt video of tom. But it's also the thing of like, if you're not providing maximum value for my specific needs. Every second you're out of here it's like who even are you believe it or not? I don't make my stuff just for you, yeah it's.
Speaker 1:It's so bizarre. I saw a thing it was, this was a thing on reddit last night this morning where somebody was talking it might have even been in the comment, I don't know. It was something where they were talking about youtube ad revenue, whatever. And somebody's like if I ever see, I never buy anything that I see advertised on youtube. Ever as soon as I see it there, I never buy it. Same goes I'm never giving youtube a dime to not play ads. That's like okay, so you're not buying sponsored products, but you're refusing to pay for YouTube premium but you're complaining about ads Like what do you want?
Speaker 1:It's like to me that was a cell phone Like yeah like my car's dirty, but I'm never to take it to a car wash. You're like, okay, I mean, that sucks. You have a dirty car, which is fine, but you could pay to wash it. I don't know, you don't have to and it's like okay, youtube is free, you don't have to buy any sponsored stuff, you don't have to pay for YouTube premium, You're going to have to sit through ads.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the only way that this could even keep happening at the rate that it's happening, and if you really hate it, youtube Premium is the most affordable of all streaming services.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well. So how did you respond to this comment? So, because this person brought up their point in a really diplomatic way, okay, and I think it is an important point and it's something I'm aware of. Obviously it's why I was even hesitant to do an AI thing the first time they offered. So I was kind of glad that they brought it up and I figured not only replying to them would let me reply to their point of view, but also be there for other people to see and read as well.
Speaker 2:Because we also know that people who are going to watch the video from this point on will scroll through the comments yeah, and see and someone's probably going to have the thought someone's probably going to have like wait, ai is weird, this cool.
Speaker 1:Here's a chance for you to like have a snippet. That doesn't have to be in the video description, doesn't have to be in the video it's it can be right here and you can see that there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and so I said I totally understand where you're and, trust me, I don't take sponsorships on a whim. Out of 500 plus videos, I think maybe 15 are sponsored. So yeah, artlist and Motion Array have always been incredibly supportive and have proven themselves to be genuinely good folks to work with. That's what I said. Like I've known them for years, they asked to sponsor stuff for years before I actually agreed to it, but of course, that doesn't mean you also have to agree. I just want to emphasize that it's not a random company. That was the thing. It's not just like random email hey, we're going to sponsor a video, take this money, say this thing Like this is something we thought about discussed. I even initially said no to For this feature, specifically AI voiceovers.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's intended to replace voice actors, but instead opens up options for people and projects where hiring a real person isn't feasible. And here's kind of the story I just told you. I personally found myself recording last minute things over the years at previous jobs where plans suddenly changed and there were no other options, which ultimately led to worse end results. Something like this would have been a lifesaver. So for lots of small and local businesses, schools, organizations, et cetera, this type of tool can let them do things that otherwise aren't possible. So I think in those cases, it's less AI versus a real actor and more AI or nothing.
Speaker 1:I hope that makes sense. I appreciate you bringing up the concern and advocating for human artists. I'm definitely not foolish enough to think that there won't be any negative impacts of things like generative AI, but the genie isn't going back in the bottle. So I personally wanted to understand and contextualize these tools rather than demonize them. But again, that's my own point of view and I respect you for having a different one. Yeah, and that's my, because obviously, like, will there be voice actors who lose opportunities because of AI?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:There will be.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's nothing I can do about that. Yeah, and that sucks. I wish that weren't the case. That's why it's like hey, let me show you how ai can be used so we can value it over here. And then this person who's like hey, voice actor's been on strike for months. Let's value that also.
Speaker 1:Like both things can be valuable, but the thing is like any of those voice actors on strike, we're not going to be hired for the type of jobs that I'm talking about for the ai thing and even with the ai training I guess something I didn't mention there was, like everything that I've talked to with artless motion array they mentioned ethical training of their ai I don't have a computer science. I don't know. I don't even know the ways to begin verifying that, but it's a pretty bold claim to make if it's not true, and that essentially means like it's being trained on things that were given permission or acquired Not just consent. Yeah, it's not you training your replacement, essentially.
Speaker 2:Hopefully. Let's see. Let's catch up really quick. Randall says I enjoy using this road streamer X voice to change the sound of an individual that has helium.
Speaker 1:We did that on accident.
Speaker 2:And voices of Tom's humor are interesting. They're very friendly andre, says anyone remember a couple years ago? Google is grabbing article text from magazine articles and newspapers and presenting them to people searching, who then didn't have to click the link to read yes, uh, so magazines and newspapers lost ad revenue.
Speaker 2:Ai voice providers training their ais on people's voices without compensation is similar and a problem. Ai voice voice in itself isn't a problem. The sources of the voices are paid and the artists being compensated. In the same way, artists are paid royalties or play on radio, et cetera. Which is set to your understanding is how it was done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, again, I'm not a computer science person, but everything they've told me is that this is ethical, ethically trained AI systems, which there are, are different ways. There are some that are some that aren't. I forget who it was famous actress that didn't want to be an ai voice on something because they decided some big company. I can't remember the details. I don't know if it was scarlett johansson, someone oh yeah, at that level yeah, I was.
Speaker 1:Was like, oh, this company is just using my voice, like that situation. No, but yeah, it's. It's sort of like I I don't know all the it's, I don't know all the ways that it works. The same way that when dji pays someone a bunch of money and the person chooses not to announce it, it's not really the companies like right, the person chose not to announce it. It's not really the company's like right the person chose not to announce it.
Speaker 1:When I working with a company that I have found nothing but reputable for many, many years and I asked them how their stuff works, and they tell me if it's ethically done at a certain point, like I guess I could become an investigative journalist, but I I'm not going to it. It's not Right.
Speaker 2:Ernesto. Hello Heather and Tom, Happy Thursday Hello.
Speaker 1:Hello.
Speaker 2:Well, what was we did? Youtube updates there was like so much YouTube update stuff, but I don't know if we have time, so we'll talk about other things. Creator life how has creator life been in the past two weeks, tom? Well, taking that break was real nice yeah uh, let's see, I mean so we had a really fun youtube huddle up this yeah, yesterday yeah, uh, on the youtube huddle up which is over on my tutorial channel, it's every wednesday at 1 pm Pacific Standard Time.
Speaker 2:We have a live stream of a community of other people who are working on their YouTube channels and it's just like such a fun, positive, encouraging, productive, creative community that I don't know how it came together. I have no idea how this happened, but it's just such a great group of people and yesterday we celebrated our 12 week progress. So we check in every week, we, you know, we put in the reps every week, we, we talk about our wins, we talk about our goals, but every 12 weeks we kind of, you know, do a bigger reflection on the bigger picture and, you know, kind of evaluate things over several weeks or months. Uh, and it was just so, it was just so cool. Actually, I'm gonna get the box, I'll be, I don't think I can quite reach it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the huddle up is like such a cool, a cool group with like such a fun vibe and you had to get a bigger box. It's like jaws.
Speaker 2:You're gonna need a bigger box yeah, so this is a so if you made any progress on your YouTube channel, you get a sticker, and every 12 weeks we do a drawing for a prize, which has just been $25 Amazon gift cards, just to, kind of you know, have a fun celebration, another incentive. That's not why people, like you know, obviously want to work on our YouTube channels, which is another fun thing Like a reward, a quest reward. So I take everyone's stickers, I turn them into tickets and we do a drawing. But it's so cool because, when you think about it, every single one of these yes, look at this.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at all the names like, each one of these tickets represents a video that was made.
Speaker 1:Someone redoing their studio, someone you know opening up a shop to sell their graphic design stuff or stickers uh, someone I'm streaming for the first time from mommy guide mommy guy did a whole 30 day challenge, like I mean, it's just this is very cool because, like something that has been cool, like when we got to go to NAB, when he got to go to New York and stuff was meeting people in real life and they're like, oh my God, like I, your channels have been helpful, all that stuff and it gives you that like real world impact of the thing that you make digitally. Yes, it's very cool, cause that that is. It's one thing to see a scoreboard, it's one thing to have someone say like I made a video this week or whatever, but to like transform that into physical things, that it's just, oh, my God, this is a lot.
Speaker 2:It's incredible. It's like I don't know. I feel it just me an appreciation for people who who choose to do youtube because it's so, it's so hard, uh, but the fact that people push through, they find time, they, they dedicate themselves to this goal, uh that they set for themselves, they try to level up, it's just it's like a representation of, of effort, of, uh, creativity, and I just love being a part. It's just so cool, it's nice, like you know, in a world where it kind of feels like I'm not doing enough. Or you know, I I put out a video on my gaming channel this week which I was like gonna pull the plug on every step of the way. I just I did a studio tour, you did a studio tour last week, or desk that was the video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we're just watching.
Speaker 2:I I released a video at the very like this was coincidental that we did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a youtube setup video where I talked about my, like you know, camera, audio, stuff like that. But then I had the idea of, oh, there's a lot of like video game stuff in my studio. I'll make the gaming channel version of this, of the studio tour. So I talked about, like you know, just all the random video game knickknacks that are in here and I don't know, when I was editing it I was just like, ah, this is so rambly, it's so just me talking about things that I love, and it's just so me, me, me, which, like, if you've been, you know, watching the couple stable for the past couple episodes, I'm having a lot of uh, I don't know, imposter syndrome, self-doubt when it comes to my gaming channel.
Speaker 1:this point has been audience focused in terms of like. This video will teach you how to do blank. This video will show you how blah and the gaming channel is just me yeah, I like this game. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about this game here. Let's talk about this game. Look at this game thing. I like this game.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I was different I was hesitant because I it just sounds like me talking. What do you say? What do you say? You know, I? I was just like, ah, but I I was like you know what? Just push through this. Everyone else on the huddle up is doing it. I can do it too, okay, so I'm gonna push through. I put the video out and of course, the whole time I'm just like, look, it's done.
Speaker 2:No, one cares about it, you know, like no one's watching it, blah, blah, like no one's watching it, um, and I just wasn't, you know, happy with it. I don't remember what my point was in bringing that up.
Speaker 1:Did you learn a lesson from this?
Speaker 2:I feel like there was a lesson I thought it went in a more positive direction.
Speaker 2:I mean of course, like, of course, people, of course there was a good response, the people that did watch it, the people who left comments connected with it, and so it was it. It was a a reminder of, like I know it. It's so weird to not be in in the position of, like, you know, here, here's the thing that you're getting out of this discussion or out of this live stream or this tutorial or whatever. It's just like I'm sitting there talking about video games. It feels it just feels wrong. But then there there is the connection that you know, it's like people are connecting with it. So I'm like, okay, right, uh, you know, I'm sure it's like my brain is reconciling with the logic behind it, but it doesn't it's way out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1:Something we talked you and I talked about this week was acting as if yeah and I feel like that's a thing that the gaming channel is helping you to do, because it feels so weird and I told you that when I started teaching it felt very strange to the door closes, the bell rings and there's 40 high school students and then me in the front of the classroom and I'm supposed to just like tell them to do stuff yeah, well, of course, that and that's the thing it felt.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm not not the one, like I need an adult. It felt very weird For them. Walking into a classroom, hearing the bell and then a teacher start talking is exactly what they expected to happen, because that's what happens every day for years, like that's what it's for, that's what this situation is for. So it felt very weird for me. And the key was to just start acting as if, right, it was normal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, of course it's so.
Speaker 1:It's just so weird still yeah, but that was the thing I told you was. Like it feels weird if, if you have spent eight years outward, outwardly focused, here's I'm gonna make something that has a value for you, here's the value for this, and now suddenly it's I'm making something. It's weird to think that there's value in a thing that feels very personal focused.
Speaker 2:It feels indulgent. That's the only word I can come up with.
Speaker 1:But obviously people are and that was this was sorry. This is the whole thing. That was the thing. People are choosing to watch these videos. If they click on the stuff in my gaming setup video.
Speaker 2:Why is this talking about a gaming?
Speaker 1:setup. That's what it's for.
Speaker 2:But I think the point I wanted to make was like it's cool doing the YouTube huddle up at the same time that I feel like I'm building the gaming channel. You're in the YouTube huddle up Because I feel right alongside, whereas before when I started YouTube Huddle Up it kind of did. I started it with like the you know the mentor position of like hey, you know, this is something I'm interested in. I am pretty knowledgeable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I have. I feel like I'm in a position to provide some guidance on your YouTube journey. Now it's like okay.
Speaker 1:Guide me on your YouTube journey. Now it's like okay, Guide me on my YouTube journey.
Speaker 2:I've never. Yeah, it's just so different.
Speaker 1:It's been great. I mean there have been times where there was a time a week or two ago where, like I had, I was trying to figure something out. I had a question and I was I was even gonna ask Chad, I was gonna ask whatever and it was during the huddle up and I was like wait, let me just put this question in the chat, like hey, thinking about blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1:what should I do about whatever? It's like? Yes, and part of that is, as people keep leveling up too, then fortunately for you, that mentor, like the mentor position, now there's a lot of mentors because people have so much experience. Because we were talking about consistency before, like the consistency you've done in that has let people build up their skillset to a point where now they can guide, they can provide insight, and when new people show in, it's not just like. Well, what does Heather think about this? But it's like, what do?
Speaker 2:what do we? What do you think? Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's the only something that could happen with time. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's see Tech troublemaker in the house. Yay, stickers, jake is here late again. Dang it, that's okay, we are streaming on a different day. Yeah, roy says it's so weird but great to meet your community in person, especially when they recognize you and you have no idea who they are.
Speaker 1:I actually something that I used to feel weird about but I really like now is when I meet someone and they go like, oh my gosh, like I've seen all the videos, the solid podcast stuff, I'm always like, oh cool, I don't have to like explain anything.
Speaker 2:I can just ask you yeah.
Speaker 1:But now I'm like, oh cool, you're up to date, like I don't need to talk about any of it. We, what do you do?
Speaker 2:who are you like we can just skip it and it's really nice. Uh oh, no, coffee says hi. Uh, hey, jfk, hey hi, sup crazy doc, it's here. Howdy heather, howdy tom.
Speaker 1:Glad you put out that video oh, jfk, I'm curious how you like your new computer.
Speaker 2:They got the the same computer I have oh great, uh, now way to damn in, y'all, y'all had a gaming channel. Well, it's my gaming channel.
Speaker 1:Tom is a huge part of it. I'm a tertiary character Tertiary. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't even think I'm secondary.
Speaker 2:You're totally a secondary. You're in most of the streams, bro.
Speaker 1:But I'm just kind of like sitting over there quietly. I'm not, it's not like this, like it's like Right, okay, fine, I'm just vibing over there. It's not a co-host situation. I'm not even on camera half the time, it's great.
Speaker 2:Andre says I'm just three videos away from starting the competing YouTube snuggle up. That's funny, Mr Camera.
Speaker 1:Jigki in the house.
Speaker 2:Hi everybody. Yeah, it's a, I think like I think the the. The point I want to share is that, even though we've done this, even though I have been a freaking youtube coach, a trainer, I've taught workshops, I've had online courses, webinars like people pay me to learn youtube uh, it's still it's. I'm still experiencing new things of it. I am still trying my best. There's just still so much to I don't know, learn and figure out. And it's hard, you know it's hard but it's. But the people who do it are incredible because you, these people, these self-selecting people who are Sn to do this, are incredibly resourceful and creative and just like the best people to be around. So, yeah, it's a continuous like. Every day, I just go from like oh, my God, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm doing it all wrong to. Oh, this would be fun, let's try that. I don't know, I can't over'm doing it all wrong too. Oh, this would be fun, let's try that.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I can't overthink it yeah, that and that, but that's the good lesson to learn yeah, uh, let's see jfk.
Speaker 2:I made a comment a second ago asking tom the best option for using ntf drives on macros, but it was. Drives on mac os, on mac os, but it was deleted.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize. You're new to Mac OS. You can use NTFS. The time I use it is if I ever think I'm going to need to plug that drive into something that's not a Mac. Otherwise you can use Mac OS, but I don't really have it never made a difference to me, like when you format a drive and you can choose the type. But NTFS will be more compatible with more things.
Speaker 2:I thought that was ExFAT.
Speaker 1:ExFAT 32? Wait, am I?
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I thought it was ExFAT, but that's the.
Speaker 2:Windows Mac compatible. It's got to be the other one.
Speaker 1:Wait now my brain is breaking. I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's AC something. You know why? Because I just formatted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't formatted a drive in ages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's an Apple one that is optimized. So, if you like use, if you edit off of that drive you. It's suggested to use that one if you're on a Mac. Anyway, Andrew, the exposure bar. Hello you two, how have you been? How's everyone else been doing as well?
Speaker 1:Something we got to do during the break, something we got to do during the break is we got to meet Andrew in person? Yeah that was awesome and really, really, really gave me the itch to be a photographer.
Speaker 2:This stein right here on top of this shelf. Drew actually got us You're pointing to your head and that stein is featured in your studio tour video gaming channel. Which uh persant, who's a? Uh active person in the youtube, huddle up as we're not gaming uh has been in the couple's table and also on the gaming channel. Uh has the same one that's crazy so thought about that story, because they saw it, but then also did a similar wedding gift you okay, buddy I lost my sneeze.
Speaker 1:I was gonna sneeze and it went away. Someone was talking about me and then they stopped. Oh, it was really.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be a big one uh, but yeah, they did a wedding gift of like steins, like that that's so cool yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like you know, it's just you know so, like you know, it's just like you know you know, you know heather 2024 uh, let's see.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, tom, it's the single most powerful computer I've owned now. A wise uncle once said with great power and great responsibility, so good uh, it's ignoring the nf. Ntfs I keep wanting to say nfts. So I'm currently doing a six hour ntfs to x-fat transfer that might be.
Speaker 1:You have to do the x-fat uh morton hi oh ntfs is a new windows format, nice to see you guys.
Speaker 2:Thank you, tom, for introducing me into the world of microphone. Yeah, I'm a nerd. Now love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's weird. It's not weird, but it's funny that it becomes addicting. Like you wouldn't think, this is I, obviously. I've been addicted to microphones. My name is tom. I've been addicted to microphones for many years now, uh, but a lot of people have said the same thing. Like I have 15 microphones now and it's when it clicks. It clicks and it's just. This one is not even mine, actually, this is Matt's, who's sometime in the chat.
Speaker 2:See, now I understand, because if we were going to talk video games, let's go.
Speaker 1:Microphones though, yeah, you have the one and it works, and that's great, yeah, but this is the short Nexodyne that Matt Ruff let me borrow.
Speaker 2:King Paco, how are you guys? Thank you for having. She is my first microphone Great New, as you guys thank you for having. She is my first microphone great new, as in from 1993 and up until now. Oh, ntfs got it well, um what?
Speaker 1:is this what happened?
Speaker 2:you went so quiet someone is asking me to be to interview me like the police. I don't know. I feel like everything is spam right now yeah everything. I'm just like spam until it's not it's like Kamala Harris asking an interview.
Speaker 1:I will be so glad to not get another election anything somehow I opted out and I haven't gotten any in a long time.
Speaker 2:Good for you, man, I will be so glad to not get another election anything. Somehow I opted out and I haven't gotten any in a long time. Good for you, man. So anyway is that it. I feel like there was more.
Speaker 1:There's always more, but we're at the top of the hour and you're going to be doing a stream in an hour. So we actually are on a little bit of a time crunch crunch.
Speaker 2:I'm nervous as heck, but one of the magical things, see, this is why I really have so many reasons for the gaming channel.
Speaker 1:It's so good.
Speaker 2:I feel like I can share all these new things. It's the equivalent of us doing the thing that we teach.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know. So the thing that I'm doing today that I've never done before, we've never done this is I'm going to do a watch party in the Discord server. So there's a lot the company that. There's a company that's coming out with another video game that I'm really excited about next year. They're doing a demo of that video game in an hour and I it's in my calendar. I was going to watch it anyway, but then I woke up and I was like watch party, wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 1:so that is how she wakes up.
Speaker 2:I can confirm because I, because I was like oh, I can stream it to youtube. But I was like you know what? I the the vibes in my discord server right now yeah it's like fun, it's so cool. So I was like, oh, let's just see, I don't know, let's just see how this goes.
Speaker 1:So I will, I will report back with how that goes yeah, that's kind of fun, because it's what's really fun about streaming in a discord server is like there there is no marketing strategy there. It's not like let's grow the channel, promote this, do whatever. Like it's a chance to share passion about something like yeah we're all excited about this. Let's share it together, and it's so pure and just so fun and yeah, that's such an it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's the the thing with your discord and like gaming channel group, is it? It feels like that is a group of people that's just been there forever right I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:I don't know if there's a couple people here, yeah, but it feels like oh yeah, all these people have obviously known each other, been around.
Speaker 1:This is a group that's been around forever.
Speaker 2:No, yeah it's very new but that's how I feel like with your.
Speaker 1:Your channel, too, is like the people I mean, but some people have had the time to be there for years now, like even meeting drew. He's like I've known you guys for like five years yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So anyway, we'll see. Okay, I will uh keep you updated. Let's see. Uh, I feel like I've gone over the dark side. I'll truly be a sit lord. Getting an iphone x5 is mostly for flash drives and compatible with loads of stuff. Uh, same phone numbers of the same, asking for fun for different politicians. That is a good I just blocked phone numbers dear americans, I beg you, just come through november, at least a little bit same, and I depend on y'all. Oh man, all right, everybody. Well, that was fun that was awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oops, I bumped we should be back to our normal day boom arm yesterday because I was in the side of a stream and I needed like a boom that could have the mic in the frame without getting in the way of the computer and things, and this. This one worked, but it was the one that was in here. It's not ideal for couples table and I keep bumping it and stuff, but it worked really well for the stream last night yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So november 1st, the day after halloween, it'll be our halloween episode what is? A couple stable next week. Okay, it's november 1st, so all right, everybody. Thank you for tuning in and, uh, if you have any suggestions for things that we could talk about, feel free to send us a message. We are always open to all of the creator topics because we love talking about this stuff, oh thanks for watching.
Speaker 1:It's time to clear the table like come on.
Speaker 2:No, sorry, I was thinking about a thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know if we turned on fan mail on buzzsprout or not, but fan mail or buzzsprout, has a really cool feature. I know it sounds like an ad. They have a really cool feature called fan mail, where on the audio message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's. It's basically like you click it and you just text it on your phone. It's not like you don't have to go to an email, you don't have to create an account, you don't have to do whatever. It's just like. It will literally look like our show gets a text message from somebody listening and it just oh, and then it's text. It's not voice yeah, this is just text. Oh, that's so.
Speaker 1:It's so low send message, yeah, but I don't know, I'm not 100% sure, If that's turned on in the audio version it'll be in the show notes, If it's not there it's not turned on, all right, and with that said, we'll catch you guys next time. Bye.
Speaker 2:Bye.