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Reaching 150K Subscribers: Upgrading to 4K, New Gear Reviews, and Balancing Authentic Content Creation

Heather & Tom Season 1 Episode 153

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How would you manage the thrill of reaching 150,000 subscribers while upgrading your content to crystal-clear 4K quality? Join us as we celebrate this incredible milestone and share our gratitude for your unwavering support. We kick off with a lively debate on the aesthetics of Heather's setup, pondering whether a black or white Elgato low-profile arm better complements her white-themed gear. We also imagine our subscriber count as a massive audience in a physical arena, underscoring the sheer magnitude of our community.

Gear enthusiasts, rejoice! This episode delves into the latest in content creation hardware, featuring the Shure MV7 Plus microphone and the GoPro Hero 13 camera. Discover the enhanced USB functionality, app features, and aesthetic appeal of the Shure MV7 Plus, and learn about the significant upgrades of the GoPro Hero 13. From a new longer-lasting battery to improved overheating performance and magnetic mounting options, these innovations are game-changers. We also reflect on the enduring value of typing skills in a world increasingly dominated by voice recognition and AI, sharing Heather's impressive typing speed and a recent frustrating car dealership experience.

In the latter part of the show, we navigate the pressures of content creation culture and the chase for vanity metrics. Reflecting on personal anecdotes and the evolution of different content creation communities, we emphasize the importance of quality over quantity. We share insights on balancing content creation with fitness routines, the benefits of smaller, more intimate communities like Discord and Patreon, and the excitement of new tech in content creation. Plus, get a sneak peek at some unreleased products and the impressive voice-tracking feature of the Elgato prompter. Don't miss this episode full of valuable insights and reflections on making meaningful, authentic content.

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Speaker 1:

no-transcript what's up? Everybody happy friday. Do you know what that means? It's ice cream day it is ice cream day, everybody, yeah. Well, let's kick off the show with a huge announcement oh, what is it? You don't know what it is I don't ready hold on. Tom hit 150 000 subscribers 150,000 subscribers.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know what that was.

Speaker 1:

Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho ho, 150,000.

Speaker 2:

That is pretty nuts.

Speaker 1:

Come on, let's take a second.

Speaker 2:

Oi, hold on, I'm trying to see if we have.

Speaker 1:

Look at that we have 4K quality available.

Speaker 2:

That was what I wanted to check. Oh good, we solved it. Oh yeah, it's quite clear that we have 4k quality available. That was what I wanted to check. Oh good, we, we saw that.

Speaker 1:

oh yeah, it's quite clear okay, can we just take a second and acknowledge this?

Speaker 2:

this, okay, brian yay, that's kind of crazy. I haven't yet seen the number on the channel that.

Speaker 1:

That's cool.

Speaker 2:

That's very cool. Yeah, congrats.

Speaker 1:

That's a lot. That's a lot of people, that's a lot of work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, thank you Everybody who's been so kind and supportive for a lot of years now at this point, which is very, very cool, yay.

Speaker 1:

I really appreciate it. That's awesome. I'm just noticing Okay, I didn't notice this before your microphone looks awesome.

Speaker 2:

It's gorgeous. Oh, okay, I was like was something wrong with that?

Speaker 1:

No, I didn't notice. This is the one you brought in.

Speaker 2:

I'm using this one because it's relevant to today's show. It is relevant.

Speaker 1:

It's gorgeous. I love the white and green.

Speaker 2:

Well, Heather has something sitting over here that we might need to try out later, which is the white elgato low profile arm, just to kind of see I mean, we're not going to try it on stream?

Speaker 1:

no, no, no, no well actually I would love everyone's opinion oh, yeah, yeah opinions, because heather's been using the black elgato which, like you, can't really see it, but when I make my videos I'm over here in the center, so it's I mean, you're always going to see the boom arm in the frame.

Speaker 2:

Black is the one that kind of gets out of the way more. But there's the white one. It's the same thing, it's just white, um I feel like it's gonna like it's not discreet yeah but if that's like the aesthetic you want to go to, I mean.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I need to try it. I need to try it kind of cool here in this case, is the white one with yeah, that's cool, like is cool.

Speaker 2:

So I feel like you need to try it and see. We're also using your new camera, which has more dynamic range. So the white on screen. Previously we tried this once off stream and it was like too overexposed on camera. It was like way too white, yeah. But this camera can handle that a little bit better.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so okay Actually.

Speaker 2:

So if you're watching right now, vote. The camera is focusing on the boomer.

Speaker 1:

We're going to vote okay. Should Heather try the white arm, or is the black one fine?

Speaker 2:

Oy, they're both great. I think it's personal preference.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think it's worth a try here.

Speaker 2:

But Heather has been going towards. You can see her keyboard here, which is a lighter thing. Her gaming mouse is white. She's kind of you know her husband is white, like I said last time.

Speaker 1:

Stop, you didn't, you didn't. Okay, everyone, let's check in. Freddie Always is here. Hello everyone, happy Friday. Sean is here. Hi, audio hotline in the house Hello. Hello, chris Lindley. Hi guys, how are you doing? Hi, gil is here. Happy Friday.

Speaker 2:

Congrats.

Speaker 1:

Woo woo 150k. Grats Ice cream.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how we're gonna celebrate Medium.

Speaker 1:

K-Walk Comedy. Hello, everyone Call Me Comedy loves the look of white gear, me too.

Speaker 2:

I do too. It's a thing, it's a. It's a, it's a vibe. Now there's even, like the I think I told you road re-released all their like main audio gear in white oh, wow the arms, the mics, the roadcaster duo is white is white and it looks awesome. And they did. They did it like I don't know eight, seven, eight months ago and they're like oh would you like to send one? I was like no, like I don't need, I don't need.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like if anything's gonna get a roadcaster into your setup.

Speaker 2:

It's the white duo, because it's beautiful.

Speaker 1:

And now I kind of wish uh freddie says congratulations, but can you imagine 150k people one room just watching you speak?

Speaker 2:

I cannot, I can, I can't, because sometimes, like when we go to hockey games and stuff, and it's a sold game, our arena is 10,000 people. Maybe closer to 11,000 if it's really really sold out and it's like it's so many people and like this is.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

This is 110, like, not less than like. Yeah, that's a lot, all of them. Don't watch every video, though.

Speaker 1:

Kathy says purchase an Amazon rando low profile arm.

Speaker 2:

Let's those, uh, kathy says purchase an amazon rando low profile arm let's just say you get what you pay for.

Speaker 1:

You sure do. Uh, audio hotline says the white arm. Well, I think it's definitely worth a try.

Speaker 2:

I think that says something, because his setup is a little more like dark and moody. So I think that's a I think that's an objective opinion yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I want to. I'm going to try it. We'll see. Okay, freddie says they're both great. I couldn't decide. Yeah, you can't go wrong, they're both awesome at the end of the day. Kathy says I like white, but it doesn't work for me. I end up getting brown makeup marks on everything. Oh, I didn't even think about that. Well, I don't move the arm very much.

Speaker 2:

Once you have it in position, all you do is slide it in and out of frame. You don't fiddle with it ever.

Speaker 1:

Andre, hey everyone, Whoa 150K Congrats. Thank you, that's huge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is pretty nuts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the white arm with the white mic is a yes.

Speaker 2:

But you wouldn't change your mic. No, no, yeah, and it works, because you have white on your mic too. So it pulls it together and your mic matches your keyboard like perfectly.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Which is very cool.

Speaker 1:

No, that's not mine. This one is mine.

Speaker 2:

If you want to know more about it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, my newest video over at my tutorial channel is a review of my new keyboard which I have probably already talked about.

Speaker 2:

We've talked about it a lot, yeah, oh, all right, so today we're doing kind of hangout time yeah, we're doing all the things um, we do have our gear of the week segment where we each have something that we're excited to share. Yeah, and we try to make it relevant yeah, did you want to go into that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. Shot says get a purple one.

Speaker 2:

Purple boom arm. I mean custom color wear should get on that right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so here's what I can kick off with next. Okay, because this is kind of interesting. So, as you know, if you were here last week, I'm using a new camera. Yes, yes, this is the.

Speaker 2:

Sony ZV-E1.

Speaker 1:

The Sony ZV-E1. So that means that we are in 4K.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the stream is in 4K, we are. It was your huddle up was in 1080 and it was confusing because you had 4K. It's like an Ecamm and it was me. I made a newbie dum-dum move.

Speaker 1:

A newbie dum-dum move.

Speaker 2:

And thought I don't know why I thought the camera could do 4K over USB. It cannot Like no cameras, can? I don't know why I thought that. So it's like oh, camera's 4K, ecamm's 4K. Usb means the signal's not 4K, so Ecamm. The cool thing one of the many cool things about Ecamm is cam is, even if you set a higher thing, like 60 frames per second or 4k or whatever, fix it if you give it a signal that's different than that, it it's almost like it's a container that can go up to that and then it just handles everything up to it.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, yeah, so it was limited to really good looking 1080, but 1080 so now we had to bring the cam link back into the fold to get that sweet, sweet 4K.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so we should be in 4K and I think we're good. So we have higher quality and the colors are how I like them.

Speaker 2:

You have them dialed in. I think, we are dialed in. Things look correct.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, things look correct.

Speaker 2:

So clear though. Here's the thing though.

Speaker 1:

Right here's the thing. I have two hue bulbs in the background, but we changed one, so let me put this back all right. So right here, whoop, whoop, kishi. It's behind tom. Right here, this light. Right here it was a hue bulb. And then the other hue bulb is right over my shoulder. Right here it's like the accent color on the bookshelf. That is still a hue bulb.

Speaker 2:

An old, like seven-year-old hue bulb?

Speaker 1:

Yes, so we changed this Pixar-looking lamp to a Govee bulb. We got a two-pack and we were planning to change this one, but it won't fit in the lamp. So this is still a hue bulb, but if you look really closely this one flickers right.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know if you could tell, but once you see, it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, so this is flickering, this Govee. One should not be flickering.

Speaker 2:

That's why we got it, no, it's not and it's not yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I don't think hue bulbs flicker anymore.

Speaker 2:

I think the new ones don't, but they're way more expensive than the Govee ones. Can you put the Govee stuff on your stream decks to turn on and off?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Because that's what you've been doing with the hue bulbs. Yeah, does the other.

Speaker 1:

I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

That's a bummer, I feel like you must be able to. Maybe someone here knows Can you put If Mr Camera Junkie's here, he would know for sure. Yeah, can you put Govee lights on a Stream Deck.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't bother me, because I could just put Alexa in here and have her turn everything on.

Speaker 2:

That's true. That's true Because it definitely connects to Alexa, to. That is to just replace that. I have some like small lights or whatever that we could do there. Or get the the regular sized govi bulbs instead of the big flood ones. Ah, and because here can you hand me that one, over there, this one? Yeah, because this is using these ones, because they're this is what it looks like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, light bulbs.

Speaker 2:

Um, so you got the regular bulb. That would fit in there. The problem with this one it's too fat on the top. The hue is skinnier.

Speaker 1:

So it doesn't reach the like the connector yeah.

Speaker 2:

Um, so yeah, so you'd have to get a different one Either regular ones or just.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you go, once you see the flicker, you can't, you can't unsee it.

Speaker 2:

So that's like really the last wrinkle to iron out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everything else is just funsies I did want to show you. Oh I saw it I saw it, I want to see. I want to show you like a real life photo, though Not a.

Speaker 1:

Tom's pulling up. Actually, you should put it over there, so we can share it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's the. It's Sure yeah, there's the.

Speaker 1:

It's the road caster in white. It looks really pretty.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, you know, what Can we just?

Speaker 1:

I don't know if we can Do. You have product showcase I don't.

Speaker 2:

So the way you turn product showcase on is you hit the trash can button on the back of the camera. I'll turn it on and off, but there's no way to reach that from here.

Speaker 1:

Now it's not focusing it's. It really likes you, well, I don't blame it, but right now it doesn't like either of us here hold on.

Speaker 2:

Look at my eyes. Look at my eyes.

Speaker 1:

Ow, sorry, sorry time has to go and push a button. I don't know what's tracking?

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's tracking the bookshelf.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's why there we go. Well, that's like such a big difference, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

No need for tracking.

Speaker 1:

Let's see Are y'all near a micro center? We just got one in Florida and it has everything.

Speaker 2:

I just got one. I thought they were all closing what's a micro center, I feel like it all, like closing what's a micro? Center. I feel like it's like a fries.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's a store.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know you can get a lot of 3D printing stuff at Microsoft and like computer things. Andre says the Hue will flicker when the frame rate matches the power grid frequency. No, because it never flickered when you were at 24, but we did 30. I don't know why. I mean we could switch to 24 and see if that fixes it, and then we're done. We could do that right now. No, no, you can't switch E-cams.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can't switch in stream, hold on.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to turn on the. Ac because record heat right now. These are all things we can talk about off stream. Right now. It's currently 113 degrees outside in mid-September early to mid-September, All right, so I'm using a different chair. What next?

Speaker 1:

We can do gear of the week Sure, okay, so our gear of the week is Sure, yes. I decided to do my Shure MV7, but we have the link for that one, which I believe is the MV7 plus. The new one? Yeah, Because it's only $20 difference and if you're going to get one, you should get that one. But I when did I get this? Do you remember?

Speaker 2:

Three years ago at least.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, three. When did I get this? Do you remember Three years ago at least? Yeah, three years. And then we got it customized. We actually did it on stream, we picked the colors on stream and we did it through colorwarecom. So it was beautiful gloss purple, a matte blue for the. I forgot what this is called.

Speaker 2:

Yolk.

Speaker 1:

The yolk, and then there's a white, a gloss white right here. It's gorgeous and it's beautiful and I absolutely love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it was like 50 bucks more to get it customized, but it's great and it's been all these years and it looks still brand new, like they do such a good job if you've never got a colorware thing before. So that's cool and that's the original MV7.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

USB XLR combo mic. This is the MV7 Plus. That's why I use this one today, because and I think this is also available on ColorWare If you're getting a mic today, there's no reason not to get this one, because it is USB-C. If you're going to use it through USB, it has some different like well, I'm not using USB, so it doesn't matter, but the USB features are better. The app functionality is betterities, but basically, if you're using it for the usb functionality, it's significantly improved if you're using it just as xlr.

Speaker 2:

It's not really that different. But if you just want it as xlr, they have the shore mv7x which does not have usb and it's a lot cheaper. So, um, that's kind of way to go there, but I've been really impressed so good with the. This like a matte white this comes in default black or white. This is not customized, and then we each have doc pops from yes rock on here um.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, this is, this is a stock yes, b7 plus you just get the white one.

Speaker 2:

Pretty yeah it's great, I love it. It comes with a black windscreen, but the green. It's funny because, like shore's main color is black and green, so I was like, oh, here's the black wow, no, I think yours, yeah, your whole this all white, all up in there too, which is cool like that yeah, oh, it's so sad. I mean it's still cool looking, but yeah, the doc pops. Make it pop, the doc pops, make it pop if you're someone who likes bright colors, that is of course all right and you've been using that mic forever.

Speaker 2:

You want to do something that's tried and true and yes you know, it's to be like I got this thing, which is actually what I'm going to be doing.

Speaker 1:

Well, I felt like I was talking about a lot of new stuff and I wanted to highlight something that I've had in my setup for a really long time. So buy out.

Speaker 2:

When you find those pieces of gear that just like you sort of check the box and it's done Like, done like that's the thing that I have and I'm done it's always nice.

Speaker 1:

So what's your gear of the week?

Speaker 2:

mine is something I talked about on a live stream the other day, which is not something I've had for years. It's the gopro hero 13 which just came out this week, or just announced. It's not even out yet, actually. Oh, this is cool. I'm a gopro guy, I love gopros, I've used it for many years. I've talked about that many times. Um the 13, like gopro, does you know? Modest iterations every year.

Speaker 2:

They're not like usually groundbreaking, huge differences but this one was a big difference well, I like, I like the moderate things because it's sort of like at any point in time, like if you bought a gopro a month ago yeah, you'd still have a really good. It's still fine yeah, um, but it's like, so at any point in time, you're kind of getting the best one, and I don't know it's just like so at any point in time you're kind of getting the best one, and I don't know it's just like modest iterations.

Speaker 2:

This one, though, has some big changes. It's the most changes they've done in a while. So there's a new battery, which people are really mad about, because now you have to buy new batteries, but, like GoPro, batteries are cheap and they use the same battery for like the last five generations. So the reason there's a new battery is because it gives significantly longer battery life, which is awesome. I got almost two hours of 5.3K recording from the battery, which is a lot. It would not ever go that far before Overheating. Performance has been improved. I've seen other people's tests and stuff where they're talking about like 70 minutes, 80 minutes, 90 minutes. I got mine in the heat that we're in to go for two and a half hours, and it did not overheat. It ran out of memory card space. It ran out of battery. I had to switch it to USB, like you can plug it into USB and then it kept going.

Speaker 2:

It didn't stop at any point, so it was recording consistently. And then finally the card filled up and once the card filled up it stopped recording, so it never actually overheated and shut down. Obviously it can and it will at certain things, but knowing that you can easily go over an hour the length of the battery. It's really not a thing you have to think about anymore at this point. It's very, very cool. They do have they changed the bottom mount. They do have like a magnetic mount, which is very cool.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

The DJI action cameras have had this for a while, but they still have a quarter 20 mount for regular tripod stuff and it still has the old school GoPro fingers, which is cool. I did read, or I did find out, that Ulanzi has made a bottom connector that looks very similar to this. That's relatively affordable and you can put this on older GoPros that don't have this and you get all the same functionality oh, I see, I don't know if it'll work with their magnetic clip, but it might, because I've heard they're extremely similar, so um.

Speaker 2:

So there's that. And then the other big change, which is actually very cool for gopros, is they have official, um changeable lenses so it's the first time, oh wait, I do have a hard time getting this one out of here, so it's the first time. Oh wait, I do have a hard time getting this one out of here, so it's the first time they've had like official ones, not just kind of random third-party filters and things, but like they have an ultra wide lens, that's this one. They have a macro lens.

Speaker 2:

They have a whole kit of nd filters, which is very satisfying they're like, uh, microscope slides is what it looks like, and they have a mac. Oh, they have an anamorphic lens which is not out yet. That's coming out next year. That's the one I'm most excited about, of course, but it's pretty cool, cause it's almost just like a mirrorless camera, where you just sort of pop your lens on and now like if you don't mind the camera being a little bigger and a little heavier, now you've got a big lens.

Speaker 2:

So bigger and a little heavier, now you got a big lens. So gopros have always had, like all action cameras, they don't have really focus, like it's infinity focus and so everything's in focus, but the minimum focus distance is usually like pretty far so this one puts it at like a few inches. You can get a like four inches away from something? Yeah, there's a little thing. You can turn, do your macro, but then you can flip it back and get your regular field of view.

Speaker 1:

So it's like you can do both which is very cool.

Speaker 2:

Um. It has genuine uh high definition video like hlg hdr, so actual, like actual factual hdr video, if you want that um so you're excited, there's some yeah there's some other fun features in there.

Speaker 2:

I'm very excited about the anamorphic lens. That's the one I like, really, really, really, really want to check out. There was something else I wanted to say, but I forgot what it was. That is pretty cool about it, but it's a fun camera. I mean, gopros are super fun and if you haven't updated one, if you've never had one, this is a great one to jump in. Nine or 10 or older, this would be a nice upgrade. So it's pretty cool. There's lots of fun stuff. You can do lots. I mean I I scratched the surface of what you could do, and they also which I don't have.

Speaker 2:

They released a second camera that's just called the hero and it's supposed to be the size of an AirPods case. So just about just about this big and all it does is record. It does video photo, slow motion, but that's it. There's no settings to change or anything, it's just. It has a screen on the back, but it's not this. You can dial in, turn on, log, turn on, you know, change the white balance and the shutter speed. Well, none of that, it's just turn on press record go yeah, um and take it to half the price.

Speaker 2:

This is $3.99, that's $1.99 yeah uh, which is pretty cool. I'm curious about that one for sure. So that's my gear of the week, because that's some cool between the mounts and the power and the overheating and the lenses. That's some really cool updates on that camera and I'm super excited to keep using it more.

Speaker 1:

Yay, yeah, sweet.

Speaker 2:

So now I got my little stack of.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, your GoPro has like you need like a GoPro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you, your gopro has like you need like a gopro, yeah, that's. That's the only downside, which is why I think they released, as the gopro is extending out to now you have like lenses and battery, and all stuff. It's like you could go with the very basic one, which has nothing, yeah, and it's just turn on.

Speaker 1:

But if you, especially if you've been using gopros for a while, you probably you know want the well, so I think they did a good job of like.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes things have to change, like the battery, the new lenses don't work on the old cameras, but even though they changed the mount, it'll work with. Literally. Stuff that I bought for my first gopro in 2011 works with this one yeah that's really cool. Yeah, sweet, that's gear of the week gear of the week.

Speaker 1:

Well, there you go. I think kathy watched your uh keyboard review video.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I did miss that comment. She said she Well, there you go. I think Kathy watched your keyboard review video.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I did miss that comment she said she loved the typing test. Yes, it was. A lot of people commented on it. I don't think, heather realizes how fast she can type.

Speaker 2:

It's an obsolete skill? It is not. It is absolutely not an obsolete skill. But Heather can type like what is it like? 115, 120 words per minute? I can maybe max out at like if I hit 60, I'm over the moon. So I basically double my WPM.

Speaker 1:

I really feel like we're going to get to the point where you don't need to know how to type.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh. So I had this horrific experience at the car dealership last week okay uh, I just had to take my car in for service, which, like I, didn't even fix the problems. It's a whole thing, and it ended up costing significantly more money than it was supposed to okay and it was so bad I thought it was just me.

Speaker 2:

I like I never fill out surveys negatively, but I fill out survey negative. It was so bad that the guy I dealt with got fired not for just my thing, but apparently I wasn't the only one who felt this way. Yeah, but a thing that would have driven you crazy. The guy who like, oh, it was like, okay, this might be 300 bucks, maybe 600, just kidding, 1800, but I'm gonna have zero sympathy or zero try to work with you, or just horrific customer service.

Speaker 2:

Um, his typing was t-rex yeah, it was t-rex typing and I don't know what they have to type, but it's basically the great american novel to get your car, like taken in and worked on. And I'm just sitting there like, oh my god, like my life is passing before my eyes because I don't want to say I judge people's typing, but I definitely it like catches my eye. You consider it.

Speaker 1:

I it like, it's like my eyes just go.

Speaker 2:

I get nervous typing around you Heather's you know fingers on the home keys.

Speaker 1:

I feel like so. I think we talked about this on the couple's table before, but the reason why I'm so good at typing is because my mom and dad forced me. This is the skill that, no matter what job you're going to be doing, you're going to need to know how to type, and you have to type well and accurately. So after school I was like forced to do all are your parents. Good at typing no, come on Filipino. I don't know generation is all for the kids, the. The kids have to do everything better.

Speaker 2:

Your dad's a techie guy and your mom works at a hospital.

Speaker 1:

No, because they don't even know how to write English.

Speaker 2:

well, If they were not writing in English, could they type fast.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know. I've never seen them type in Filipino, so I have no idea. I've never read it?

Speaker 2:

What if they have 120 words per minute? I'm pretty sure they don't in filipino, so I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

I've never like what. If they have like 120 words, I'm pretty sure they don't um, but I feel like, oh, yeah, yeah, typing, typing, and I was I've always been really glad that I could type, but I feel like now everything is, uh, voice. So it's like I I thought typing would go away with um tap, like tapping, texting, yeah, but it didn't. But I feel like voice is the thing, like, oh, everyone's just gonna talk and the, you know, ai is gonna transcribe.

Speaker 2:

I don't feel like I, I, I really don't think typing. Maybe you don't, I wouldn't be surprised 20 words per minute. But like if like we go, we go, we go to a point where computer desk setups just don't even have keyboards I feel like it's too foundational, I feel like I this is what I think, what I hope, and I even remember, you know, teaching with my typing it's gonna be retro, it's gonna be like oh, I remember I would be typing and like a kid would say something.

Speaker 2:

You know, like they come, mr matt, can I do something like oh yeah, uh, just go get that, whatever they're? Like you're not looking at the keyboard, you're still typing what and thought I was like yeah, and that was just the generation after us, so yeah like it's already phasing out I mean it is, but it's phasing out.

Speaker 1:

But I don't think it's like cursive necessary.

Speaker 2:

No one does cursive's probably not necessary that's I mean yeah I love it, but it's probably not necessary uh, let's see.

Speaker 1:

Freddy says I feel bad upgrading gopros. Personally, I tend not to use them too much because I prefer using my mirrorless cameras.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they have a I mean the thing with gopros or any action camera or even drones and stuff is like you watch the, the sample footage of people just doing crazy cool stuff, like, oh my god, I'm gonna get that you're like wait, I don't do those things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it requires you to do action yeah, I'm not gonna snowboard out of a plane or something, which is probably why you don't need to get a new one every year, but they do really cool things Like. I've been using mine for hockey games a lot. I use them all the time in videos for like supplemental angles, and there's usually always a GoPro in my camera bag if my camera is going somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, it weighs nothing, it takes no space. Gil says my wife types fast and has an amazing handwriting skills. I get nervous typing or writing in front of her. I think the new skill is more prompt-based. You can have the best prompt.

Speaker 2:

How do you get the AI to do what you want?

Speaker 1:

Andre says this discussion brings me back to typing class in junior high on mechanical, not electric typewriters, learning touch typing.

Speaker 2:

I suddenly feel old, oh I remember Actually high on mechanical, not electric typewriters, learning touch typing. I suddenly feel old. Oh, I remember. Actually I found this old home video a couple months ago, but it was christmas of like 90, 92 or three. Um, my mom got a, an electric typewriter for christmas. Like we didn't have a computer or anything at that point and word processor yeah, it gives you know it's a big giant typewriter like a little digital screen I had one of those yeah and, and part of the thing is like her in the kitchen trying to like type, just figure out how to turn it on and stuff.

Speaker 2:

But she was always a really good typist typer on typewriters and stuff. And then we got computers so I always thought it was something you needed to do. And then, yeah, school had typing class, the little rubber things that would cover the keyboards, and then you have to do the test. The little like, oh, is that no? You didn't have the thing that they put it on the keyboard and it would cover the keys, so you couldn't see them. And then you had to do you know.

Speaker 1:

I don't think we did that because, like, the accuracy would test for that. I don't know whatever's well like, why would you who cares whether you're looking, if you're typing well and accurately, because it doesn't matter if you look or not?

Speaker 2:

because kids are looking down and not looking and then you spend half the time typing and you're not even in the text box or whatever you know like. I don't know it was a big thing of like.

Speaker 1:

Don't look at the keyboard typing wait that which you don't, you don't which I don't look at the keyboard when you're typing Wait, which you don't. I don't look at the keyboard.

Speaker 2:

That was like a thing they would come out. I remember it was bright orange.

Speaker 1:

I remember that.

Speaker 2:

The thing that would go down on top of it.

Speaker 1:

Tech Troublemaker says the kind of fisheye kind of view from action cameras. The kind of fisheye kind of view from action cameras.

Speaker 2:

I tried using anymore. Yeah, you can, you can or you can turn it off, which is cool. And the anamorphic thing at least the sample footage I saw looks pretty freaking cool because it's not fisheye at all, it's. It's actually like widescreen lens flares.

Speaker 1:

It's very, very cool mr camera junkie, the house, hi everyone, didn't we say something?

Speaker 2:

we, oh yeah, we manifested you uh, yeah, you're beetlejuice right now because you showed up after we mentioned you do. Do you know if it's possible to put Govee Lite controls onto the Stream Deck?

Speaker 1:

There, you go.

Speaker 2:

That's our question.

Speaker 1:

Andre says, not forgetting the Tiki 100 computers we used to learn to program on.

Speaker 2:

I didn't have it, we never learned programming no. I never. Well, I played around with a Tandy computer. I don't know what that is. It's like the Radio Shack brand of computers, but it didn't run Windows or anything. It had like its own desktop. That was like an early skeuomorphic desktop. That, like it, looked like here's a calendar on a desk and here's like the calculator. Looks like a calculator sitting on your desk but everything just squares and rectangles.

Speaker 1:

There you go. So what else is up top?

Speaker 2:

Oh man, so many things yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's going on in the world of content creation?

Speaker 2:

Very busy.

Speaker 1:

Content with the content.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, very, very busy. There's a couple, yeah, oh my gosh. There's two things that I have in my office that I can't share but I'm very excited about about. One of them is very simple and so I already know it, love it, excited to share about it. That'll be an easy video to make. The other one is very complicated, but I'm also very excited about it, but I have no idea how to like fully approach it, so I'm trying to learn a little bit more about that as time goes on. Um, I also today, officially, I've been using the beta and having mixed results. But now I realize today, officially I've been using the beta and having mixed results, but now I realized today, officially, the Elgato prompter, the Camera Hub software. I don't think this happened today. I just I jumped on the train today.

Speaker 1:

You found out.

Speaker 2:

yeah, they officially implemented voice tracking. You can turn it on and you select a microphone, so it can be the mic you're using, or it could be a different microphone or whatever, and that's the one the prompt will use to listen to you and then it will track your speech. But it does so incredibly well because you can skip lines and you can go off script, just click up, yeah, yeah, because you can skip lines and you can go off script.

Speaker 2:

I've used I think it was Promptor Pro or something. It was an app for my old GlideGear prompter. It was an app for like the iPhone or the iPad and it had voice tracking and it worked pretty well. But like, if you went off a little bit, it sort of messed everything up. And this is like you can kind of go and then you can literally like talk about something else and just come back to it and it will keep going. If you see a sentence you want to skip, you just skip it. That's awesome. It works really well. Yeah, the only thing I can't figure out is how to back up the script if you need to go back I guess you're just like yeah, but yeah, they did.

Speaker 2:

It's such a good job. I'm so excited about it. I want definitely make a video about that. Um, so that's exciting. That was. That's one of those things where it's like now I want to make a video that I was not planning on making because I didn't know about it. So that's cool.

Speaker 1:

Andre says TE100 was a Norwegian computer with a deal with the Norwegian school system from 1984, and it did not run a graphical OS, so DOS all the way. We did have Space Invaders.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my elementary school computer lab had Apple IIs. That was all apple twos which, when you were hey ernesto, hey when you um, you didn't get to go to the computer lab in kindergarten. You started in first grade first.

Speaker 2:

Through third grade, the like librarian or whoever was in there had to put the big floppy disk in for you yeah it was the big one and you had to put in and lock it down the actual like floppy disc and then, when you were in fourth grade, you got to be able to put in your own floppy discs see so for the typing in grade school they put our names and our words per minute on the board and the gamer in me was like I'm gonna be number one.

Speaker 1:

Yo, it was me and michael.

Speaker 2:

It's between me and him I remember in the first grade I wanted to be the fastest runner in class runner and I like run, this is the only time this could be true, but I was the fastest until a new kid, mark, moved into town and he was the fastest and that was it. I was never. That was the last time I was the fastest that was the last time he ran, yeah so okay, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Well, if we don't have anything else to talk about oh, I do.

Speaker 2:

I can share something cool.

Speaker 1:

It's not a secret, but it's new to me sure, there goes tom and we are out of focus again. It really loves the bookshelf, so I'm gonna pretend like I am the bookshelf. Nope, I don't know. It's like all about my background, babe. I'm out of focus, babe I don't know what.

Speaker 2:

Maybe there's some focus settings we need to.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it fixed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was like hey, here she is, I'm gonna play around a little bit here though, because the cool thing is, since the camera's not recording, I can do a lot more okay, I get nervous when tom tries to do things while we are streaming oh, the transition speed should be slow. Oh oh, the shift sensitivity is too shift sensitivity, transition speed.

Speaker 1:

These are all things that he's playing with. Subject recognition I felt the same way when I used to drive manual. Nobody does that anymore. I was going to learn stick because I wanted to get my motorcycle license. That is not a thing I'm probably going to do anymore, but yeah, my last car that got condemned last year was a stick shift.

Speaker 2:

I tried learning stick once and it didn't go well.

Speaker 1:

Well, so here's one thing I wanted to kind of talk about. I don't know if we I don't know, it's just an observation Well, we could observe. So I have been. Is everyone on threads? Are we all on threads?

Speaker 2:

I have the threads.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I have threads. I have the threads account for Heather Just Create, but I haven't posted anything yet. I've been using threads every day on my gaming account, heather Just Play, and because threads is new, I don't know. Actually I think this is probably just gonna be. It's like x or twitter, it's gonna be the same thing, but I'm not following that many people, so most of the stuff I see is from people that I am not following, but it is still relevant. So far, the algorithm the algorithm is very relevant, like. It's very like.

Speaker 1:

I talk about video games. I'm seeing video game stuff and everything I see is related, which is so nice. But the thing that has been popping up lately obviously because it's video games is a lot of streaming streamers, people who are streaming themselves playing video games and oh my god, ah, it's kind of like I kind of feel you know how you're a teacher, you were a teacher, former teacher and I feel like one thing that you were doing, since you taught for 11 years and you've been gone for three years now, when you meet a teacher now you say, oh, how is it teaching? Because I you know it got a little rough there and a lot of things have changed, like how, how is teaching? When people talk, you kind of get a glimpse of this like different generation.

Speaker 1:

I kind of feel that way when I scroll through my threads feed about content creation, because the conversation and the approach is so different it is. It is not like the youtube huddle, it's not like the couple stable, it's not like the ecamm community, it's not like the way that we do it. It is all for the endless chase and the infinite hamster wheel of vanity metrics. That's it. Everyone posts every at the beginning of the week, the beginning of the month. Boom. Here's my youtube subscribers and here's where I want to be. Here's my threads followers. Here's where I want to be.

Speaker 1:

Here's my streaming schedule, here's where, or you know whatever, and it's just like it's a full-time job to the digit I have 27, I want to get to 57, whatever, and I'm just like I, I feel like I don't know, it's just, it makes me sad for this next generation?

Speaker 1:

yeah, because it's like I'm nervous from hearing all that I see why and I feel like, okay, maybe that's how you have to do it right, but as someone who had a freaking podcast called from 1 to 100, which was all about how you don't need a lot of subscribers to make this your full-time gig and all those things, and, like you know, both of us, I think, in the grand scheme of things, have a modest amount, you know, like a modest following. In the grand scheme of things, it's a lot.

Speaker 1:

$150,000 is a lot, it's not millions, though you know,000 is a lot, it's not millions though you know that is a huge Not yet that's a very different number and I feel like I just I think the thing that makes me sad is that it's a lot of fellow video gamers who are so all the magic that video games can bring to somebody's life and just to know that you are mixing that with something so stressful and anxiety-ducing makes me sad. I, yeah, I just like I can't. I always like comment out loud, like I talk to my phone out loud saying stuff like I shake my head or I'm like, oh my god, please don't do that.

Speaker 1:

I would never reply never, because obviously you do what you want to do. I'm not going to give you unsolicited advice, but I just I don't know. It's like I also want to be like what. You don't have to stream in order for your gaming to be valid. You know like you could just also play video games.

Speaker 2:

I don't know If you want to include a stream component, but I don't think it's because you just want to play video games.

Speaker 1:

I think it's you're trying to grow an audience and people, people want it to be like other things in life, where more input equals more output, but content creation is not that, and that's that's the thing I think it's. It's that, yes, it's. It's everyone thinking that the more you give it, you will get it.

Speaker 2:

It's like it will come back in return and it's you could do that for the rest of your life and get absolutely nowhere. You work an hourly job and you work twice as many hours and you get twice as many dollars. That's not. That's not.

Speaker 1:

You know, and it's, if people know that and they want to do it anyway, cool. Like. You know, who am I to judge? But I definitely do like. I feel like that's how it is with content creation in general. I feel like it's this there is no like. I feel like a few years ago maybe it was during, like, when we were really active in the Ecamm community during the pandemic there was a lot of people who were who they were like making money and had a business with a, you know, modest following, and that was that was like normal. Like okay, you do coaching, you have an online course, you sell a digital product, you have a membership, you have a Patreon, you have all these things. But now I feel like, okay, if you're coming into content creation, the only perception is feed the hamster wheel with content.

Speaker 1:

Just a bajillion amounts of content.

Speaker 2:

Just go, go, go, go go. I think I told you I didn't know. I think this must have been on threads or something, but a couple of weeks ago Instagram changed the photo carousel to you can have 20.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you can 20 photos on one post, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

And a threads thing popped up up which had a ton of replies to it, so it was a big discussion. But this person was saying like um, forget exactly how they phrase it, but it was like oh, so now we can have 20 photos in our carousel, but this isn't gonna like, are we gonna, you know, get more?

Speaker 1:

people something like are we?

Speaker 2:

gonna get more for our effort. We're just expected to do more for less, like less payment, less whatever no, yeah, they were making it seem like oh we're expected, photo carousels went from 10 to 20, so now we have to do double the workload doubled. Yeah, what are we getting in return? Whereas I was just like you don't have to, you don't have to do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they built an elevator in the building doesn't mean you have to take it like go take your stairs yeah, it's like you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you don't have, you just don't have to. And the the weird thing is, when I saw that, I was like, oh, that's cool yes you can I can share more photos if you want to like. It's a cool option to use sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I have to remember. It. See, I have to really, really, really remember is like this is not my problem, I do not have to try to solve this problem. You don't have to be all things to all people all the time. I get nervous. I have tangential stress for you.

Speaker 2:

Social media platforms do weird things sometimes. That to me I thought was a cool feature upgrade. I was like, hey, that's awesome, like it's a cool way, it's a different way to share more stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, the other thing is like because I've been on threads in the gaming thing so much I really had to remember this. It feels weird, but I really had to remember. The algorithm is not the world. Right, oh my God, the way that the worldview feels in the algorithm is not how it is in real life, but I feel like, if I'm feeling this, but I know what I know someone who's 22 is like oh, we all got to do this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, someone just starting out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we just need to make all the content Now we have to make 20 photos in the carousel, we have to just keep feeding it and feeding it and you have to post, like every single time you get a new follower. This is what I was telling Tom. So, like it's a big deal for streamers to become a Twitch affiliate. I don't know what that means. I'm assuming it's the equivalent of the youtube partner program. I think it's more, it's harder to.

Speaker 1:

I feel like overall, twitch is so much more competitive and I do think that, because it's streaming focused, uh, you have to put a lot more hours to like get results, um, but what people will do is they'll post oh my god, I made YouTube partner. Like I made YouTube partner, which, like, is a huge milestone that should be celebrated, but it's. It's weird because it's it's not the same way. It feels different than like if someone who wasn't on Twitch said like oh, finally, I, like you'm a, I've got the youtube partner program or whatever, versus someone who's coming from twitch making twitch affiliate. They, they see it as like the youtube partner thing is the same.

Speaker 2:

I don't know I just thought it sounds funny because you're like I made partners, like at your law firm, or like your channel got monetized. Okay, that's cool, that's great, that's exciting I don't know it's. It's not, your problems aren't all solved now. It's a cool step, it's a cool thing to celebrate milestones are important, but it's it is scary if people are sort of taxing themselves almost like, um, you know, like just I just see like a husk being like milked dry, just to like hit this one milestone or do this thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like that it should be invigorating you not. I guess it's like Hydrating, not dehydrating, you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's hard because it's like I you know we talk about this all the time it's not. There isn't one way to be successful as a content creator. But that world makes it seem like there's only one way and like I'll see posts of this person was like people have no idea how hard it is to be a content creator. Like I finally made Twitch affiliate and YouTube partner but I gained 15 pounds. And like my mental health is all a mess and da-da dah and I'm just like I don't know. It doesn't seem worth it to me.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's just like, that's not.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying I have it all figured out, definitely not, you know.

Speaker 2:

Doing that to yourself is not a it's not something you're going to be glad you did in a couple years. You know like.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, maybe who. This is why I don't want to judge. This is why I don't want to judge. I don't want to judge, but I, I, I don't know I definitely, uh, I worry, for I, I have been like this whole year. I have been telling everybody this is the best time to to get into content creation because, like, look at all these tools, look at all this like helpful resources. There's all these community there's all these people have paved the way like there's coaches. Now there's all these community there's all these people have paved the way like there's coaches. Now there's courses. It's like it's never been easier.

Speaker 1:

But then I see stuff like that and I'm like good lord, who would really, really want to like give their time infinitely to something that doesn't necessarily cash back? Like, at least with youtube videos, it can be an investment. You know, like you can make a video about this keyboard and, yes, it might not be like a banger in the first 24 hours, but the more people that like search this video. You know, most of the videos that are paying me now are videos I made in 2019. It's they're all little like investment, things right. But for Twitch, it's like, as soon as you're done. Streaming. It is done. Like that's it. You're like videos, don't? They don't Back to square one. Yeah, it's like starting over. I don't know. Sorry, sorry, I don't know how I went there.

Speaker 2:

That was interesting.

Speaker 1:

Here we are All right, let's check in. Let's see I am threaded. Where are we? Okay, hated having to take typing, but glad I now have the skill. I drove stick for 14 years. It's cool for the first week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I thread, therefore I am. Yeah, uh, I thread that. Therefore, I am. Uh, it's crazy because I'm a truck driver and I drive a 10 speed diesel truck, but I can't drive a regular car.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy, that's really funny there is a reason why I stay off both x and threads yeah I mean, like for the most part, I I well, this is why I've been spending a lot of time on thrives is because I it's like, oh, I love hearing all these video game announcements and I it feels the most positive online space right now, like people genuinely being excited about Final Fantasy 14 and stuff like it's cool, yeah, but you know it, it's mixed in with all this other like I'm also a Final Fantasy 14 streamer and blah blah, uh, would anyone watch me stream four hours of Animal Crossing? I am more of a casual gamer.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I would watch Animal Crossing.

Speaker 1:

Casual gaming is a whole. I feel like that's like the most popular type of gaming content right now. Yeah, absolutely, casual gaming is my jam, so I totally watch it. Exactly, gil. There's also a thing I hate in threads and that is where some creators do engagement algorithm, algorithm traps by asking super google a bull questions. So this is why I I am not on heather just create, because I it, I was on there, I don't know. I scrolled like two or three days and then I was like I am not going, I'm not, for the foreseeable future, going to post on here as heather just create, because it doesn't feel genuine. It feels like when someone's asking like um, you know, I don't know what's the best microphone to stream with it's, it's almost like rage baiting. You know, like it doesn't feel like you're actually asking you. You already have your opinion. You're just trying to like, right, you know it's like it doesn't feel like you're actually asking. You already have your opinion. You're just trying to like. You know it's like it doesn't feel genuine, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm signing back to the old school message board that I've talked about sometimes. I mean, there are a lot of them, but the main one I was a part of was a music one I had like for musicians, like guitars and stuff, and I'm talking, like you know, late 90s, early 2000s, and you know, late 90s, early 2000s, and this was before any other social media like that. But there were thousands and thousands of posts a day. So it was a very active message board and it's like there were the people who were the. You know there was, there were the moderators in each forum and there were the, the prolific posters who you know would be in every thread or whatever, but it was all discussion based. Like, obviously no one there. You know there was no way to like post on the message board as your full time, so it really was like you know look at my new guitar how do I do this?

Speaker 2:

should I get this type of tremolo or this one on my thing? Like it was all questions, discussions. You know who's your favorite player that did this? Did you hear about this news? What about that guitar? Help me, like it was. It was genuine, yeah, discussion with no ulterior motive no, this is what it feels like.

Speaker 1:

Every post, every response is there's an ulterior motive.

Speaker 2:

So I've been wondering like how is it? Is it possible to bring that type of thing back in some ways?

Speaker 1:

or is it somewhere? Or is it just like the?

Speaker 2:

internet, the fact that the internet is the same three websites that own everything and that we've all been trained to do, you know, to engage with things in certain ways Like is that around in place? I guess, maybe like Discord would probably be a place that that exists and like Discord servers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I mean, I mean I yeah, because discord, there's no following, so there's no, there's no expectation of like you. You know, like if I post this I better get you better follow me back or whatever. You know, I don't. It definitely feels like I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It feels it doesn't feel genuine yeah, a lot of stuff does not. That's yeah. Threads gill's one of the main people I see on threads and I uh, and I always enjoy his post because he just shares, like look what I did to my truck, here's my studio, like yeah, it's just like cool and it's like I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 1:

It it feels like there's a strategy with other people versus like sharing just share what you're like thinking about.

Speaker 2:

So I get, I, I get bored after you know four minutes and I'm like all right, I guess I'm done for the day on that yeah, so here's the other thing, okay, which like um well, let me catch up with the comments and we'll talk about it I see jared's here. I haven't seen you in forever.

Speaker 1:

Just putting out content is one strategy and it works, but it's a grind. A better strategy is putting in more time into planning your content and putting out. Quality is better yeah, purpose of some I can't even imagine having that conversation with the gaming community. Um, I've been contemplating doing a streaming channel on youtube, only streaming the arcade games for my childhood. One game per stream for one hour, trying to get as far as possible that's cool that sounds awesome it sounds manageable also.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for everybody the locker room.

Speaker 1:

I'm late. Hello, good to see you. I like threads, though it's fun, but I do so many of these content sharks making it annoying to swim.

Speaker 2:

Sharks in the water.

Speaker 1:

Andre says putting out quality content with a purpose is probably the way to survive long-term, but number chasers are so tiresome. Kombucha people who chase numbers burn out so much faster. I try and kindly remind people it's a marathon, not a race, and to always return back to making sure creating content remains fun.

Speaker 2:

A hundred. I couldn't have said that better myself, and that's what you said too. I mean, I hope it's okay I'm sharing this, but you were like a lot of these people. I don't think they're going to be here in a year.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's the fastest way to burn. I mean because the thing is you don't even know why you're doing it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like you don't even know why you're chasing these numbers. You think high numbers equals success, but it's like what is success? Like what are you thinking is going to happen?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean like having a purpose. So, here's a different real life example, though, but I think it works is you and I have gone to the gym for many years, okay, you know, sometimes casually, casually, sometimes more actively. One thing I've always, always hated leg day. I know a lot of people hate leg day, but I was like, oh, this is not like I mean he would just do leave me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna be over here not interested and people would tell me you would tell me I'd see stuff online. Whatever trainers would tell me okay, I gotta do this, do this, do these squats, do these lunges.

Speaker 1:

I'm like yeah, so good for your stability. I hate this and it hurts and I don't want to do it.

Speaker 2:

Why am I doing this?

Speaker 1:

And then you started playing goalie.

Speaker 2:

Well then, I started playing goalie in hockey. Guess, what you do while wearing huge amounts of equipment is you're essentially squatting and lunging all over the place, and it turns out oh, I really need to do that. That completely changes, though that. Okay, going to the gym now when there's like, okay, I want to do this leg thing this hip thing or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I have a purpose for it, a context for it. It's, I feel like before it felt like you need to do, I'm supposed to do leg day things I need to do, hate doing it, I'm not having fun, I don't enjoy it, I don't know why I'm doing it like why there's no reason, but I just it's what I should do, so I'm just gonna do it and then I stop versus like now I have, I know I'm doing it. There's a purpose behind it, which also then makes it easier to measure my progress, because I can see, like because you're measuring your own.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, I can get up faster than I could before, I'm less sore than I was before, or I move faster, whatever, and so there's a purpose behind it, which then makes the whole thing more enjoyable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it's the same thing with that kind of stuff, like streaming the schedule, because you're supposed to this insane schedule. No fun Streaming that schedule because you're on summer break and you have time and you're like you can't wait to do it every day.

Speaker 1:

That's different, that you're like you can't wait to do it every day, and that's different. That's different, I don't know, just. I think the other thing is like I don't, I don't know how to explain this. It's like I feel like people forget. I don't, actually, I don't even know if it's true, but I feel like content creation, at the end of the day, is an art and it, the way that someone creates their content, is. So it should be so individualized to the person's style, personality, experience, you know, preferences, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but if you are chasing numbers, then you have not developed the style, the individuality, because you're just copying what other people are doing. And so that's why it's like, not only are you not taking time to figure out what your style is and the way that, like your artistic voice or whatever it is is, and the way that, like you know your artistic voice or whatever it is, um, then you're also just chucking stuff to the algorithm. So the here's burnout and here's burnout, like you're, I don't understand where the win is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think the win is like you hope. You do those things and then suddenly blow up like crazy. But it's like I'm going to go to the park every day and just play a ton of basketball and hope I end up in the NBA somehow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. This is why we have the couples table, because I share these things here, because we don't know, andre don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

This is why we have the couples table, because I share these things, because we don't know.

Speaker 1:

Andre says the civilized conversations usually happen in the smaller closed groups. Yeah, like Discord and, to a certain degree, patreon, I think that's true. Tom's over there on the other side of the gym doing Zumba instead of leg presses. Have you done Zumba?

Speaker 2:

I've never done Zumba.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we should totally do Zumba, babe. I don't know, about that. I feel like he would like it. If everyone else was blind, I think I would be fine. Let's see. Youtube is not really a marathon, but more like practicing for a marathon, which makes sense. Melanie, hi, happy Friday.

Speaker 2:

Jazzercise aficionado. I did go to a summer day camp when I was a kid and they had jazzercise. I was like nine, we were doing jazzercise and they had a keychain or something from it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just like jazzercise. I feel we did go to a group fitness class on Monday. We went to body pump, so there's music but it's not rhythm. It's like strength exercise, like squats and bicep curls and stuff like that you have like a weight, a bar, yeah. So it's not you know.

Speaker 2:

The music is just to like make the torture pass yeah, anyway. So that's that. That's interesting. It's be interesting to see where stuff goes. I know that the those like pocketed communities can exist in like patreon or discord, and they're great. But it's hard because, like, I just keep going back to the old school message board because that's my frame of reference. But that's something you can find through google, like you can, you know, search for I know best, guitar or whatever.

Speaker 2:

And then you find a thread on this message board and then you realize, oh, there's a whole guitar form. I'm going to read this and then I should register and, like you know, you can't find, like the discord community, that you can't yeah, it's a little more closed off, it's harder to find. It's hard to find, yeah and that's that's what makes it tricky, and then's also not, which has always been my big Discord complaint. It's not.

Speaker 1:

Actually, speaking of Discord, we have a pinned comment with the link to the Puppet Stable Discord.

Speaker 2:

Here's my big Discord complaint. Speaking of Discord, which actually that's perfect. I'm really glad you brought that up, because it's all part of the plan, man. I've been putting together a thing I don't want to like, share it to like on Twitter publicly, but I want to put it here. Oh, yeah, yeah, I have a actually it's a pretty huge assortment of gear that that's sort of in like stuff that I either don't need or don't use anymore or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Some of it's older, some of it's like in brand new condition that I just want to find homes for. I did this a couple of years ago and I basically put everything for sale for a dollar in an online shop. It's a dollar plus $25 for shipping, so it's $26 for everything. Yeah, but I'm having another batch of gear that I'm going to put up sometime in the next week or so. So I've shared it on my Patreon, shared it on channel members and my message board, but couple stable people and like huddle up people.

Speaker 1:

I think um would be super cool, so heather will share that link in the discord sometime I don't know when that's gonna give us some like like, what's some of the stuff you're gonna be posting?

Speaker 2:

there's some there's a lot of microphones uh so there is, the mv7x is in there. Um, there's a lot of video mics like a rode video mic. Go to a deity v mic d4 a joe b waveo pro so you're it's 26 for anything yeah, but there's also, like the mackie dlz creator, the boss gig caster, those are like seven, eight hundred dollar mixers. So there's a lot of stuff and everything, just the same like the point is to share it somewhere where it's going to get used, used yeah um, and there are some other things too, I can't remember.

Speaker 2:

It's mostly that kind of stuff. Oh, there's a road nt1 signature series still in the box, which is really so we'll post it if you, yeah, want any of this. The only well. There's a couple little like caveats that I share, but the the big one is that it's us only just because shipping. I wish that weren't the case. I would love, love to ship internationally. I've tried that in the past.

Speaker 1:

Well, what if you let people pay the shipping?

Speaker 2:

That's what I thought and people are happy to do it. The problem is customs, and it ends up being this thing where it's like you have to communicate there's like weird international communications, depending on where it's going and what organization and sometimes then people still have to pay an import tax on top of it, and then sometimes I have to get in contact with customs and they have. It's like it became a logistical nightmare for someone who's like I like if this, if we all live close together, this would just be a garage sale Like that's that's all I'm trying to do, so I just can't it has to be us only where I can just throw it in a box and ship it.

Speaker 2:

just throw it in a box and ship it and it's relatively affordable because, like, if someone buys the you know, like the rode video mic, shipping for that in the us probably not going to be 25 dollars, yeah, but shipping for the mac edlz is probably going to be like 40 bucks so it's just it all. It all kind of ends up evening out, and usually then we only end up losing like 50 bucks when all is said and done oh, hey, hey, gil, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Well, we didn't lose, 50 bucks, we broke even. Great stream Congrats on 150, Tom Jeez.

Speaker 2:

We're going to go buy some ice cream with that. Let me tell you that is our handles fund for the next month and a half.

Speaker 1:

That's so awesome. Jeez Also, we need a meetup in game.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we need a meetup in game, oh yeah, final Fantasy XIV.

Speaker 1:

But thank you, my goodness.

Speaker 2:

That's so generous.

Speaker 1:

We have Steven Martone, long time viewer, first time catching you live. Hey Got my MSED and been wanting to start content creation. Haven't decided to focus on mission purpose yet. I did a documentary for school and loved filmmaking.

Speaker 2:

Nice, that sounds awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that sounds like the perfect reason to jump in and start having fun.

Speaker 2:

uh, mr camera junkie's eyeing a mic. Oh yeah, there's some cool stuff in there.

Speaker 1:

Kombucha says I definitely don't need a mic, but I do want to join that discord link. Is it working for me, though?

Speaker 2:

says it expired I think it was one of the seven day ones oh heather can fix that right now yeah, oh, I can't because or she cannot because I'm on a different computer.

Speaker 1:

This is so. This is going to be a problem. Let me tell you I have I'm using. It's so confusing because I'm using the same setup for two different computers and I don't I never know like which one I'm on. What am I on?

Speaker 2:

While you're doing that, here's what I currently have listed Rode VideoMic Go 2, Joby Wavo Pro, Deity, V-Mic D4, YoloBox InStream that's the vertical streamer Novation Launchpad, which is like a sort of sample control pad. Yolobox Pro, Sennheiser Profile with a boom arm. Se Electronics X1A, MXL 990, microphone, R 1 512 audio skylight. The big mackie, dlz creator, the shore mv7 and the boss gig caster 8 are all what's currently on there might be a couple other things, or maybe not all of those things, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

That's just what is what I've been planning currently did I? I posted the right one, right, yes, oh, I I mess up discord links every time I send them out, so I think this is a couple stable.

Speaker 1:

I think I put the right one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's why I used to have a discord for, like my courses and channel members and like every other day I would get a message. It's like the link doesn't work.

Speaker 1:

Link doesn't work and I was like, yeah, I'm shutting this down okay, I don't know how to uh, actually, let me unpin the other I'm just watching you so I wasn't keeping it going.

Speaker 2:

I know, it's just like what are you doing? How are you doing it?

Speaker 1:

live. Let me unpin this comment boom unpin bam.

Speaker 2:

All right, sweet, so you could pin the new one, that YoloBox stream looks interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's. I almost feel bad because it's a little less necessary than it was, but it was prior to Instagram letting you live stream with anything but a phone. So what it is is it? It's essentially a capture card. It runs an Android operating system so you can log into Instagram just like you would have the phone, but now you can connect any HDMI source to it and stream directly from there. But it also then has the cool YoloBox stuff of like overlays and graphics and audio inputs and you know. So it's pretty sweet and it's it's like like just it's a small little vertical thing, but also it has a monitor mode so you can use it as a you can use it as like just a monitor for recording and stuff, which is really cool.

Speaker 1:

Okay, mark Redder, I record karate tournaments with six active arenas. What are your thoughts on live streaming this on YouTube? Six streams, two multi-view streams, one multi-view stream with four channels partial content.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting. I think it would be. I think you wouldn't want to have multiple channels because it's probably just too much. I think streaming that in some way is cool, whether that's like you're kind of alternating which tournaments you're streaming or like maybe it's not everything all at once. What I am curious about is I've seen channels big channels like Coachella will do this every year, but also our old buddies at Boston and Maine live do this where you have multiple live streams at once on the same channel.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

So it is possible to do that and that would be giving people a one-stop destination where they can check out all the streams is the way to go I've destination where they can check out all the streams is the way to go.

Speaker 1:

I've never done simultaneous streams on the same channel, so I don't know how to do that. Yeah, maybe just create a second stream which says it works, because everyone's in there.

Speaker 2:

Yay sean has a question for you house final fantasy. It's going great. I'm officially I'm, I'm, I don't know, I would say maybe a third of the way through heaven's war yeah, he's making great progress. Level 57.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

I made it to level 57 last night. It's great, it's super fun.

Speaker 1:

Are you enjoying it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We just finished Ravonna last night.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the story is really picking up in some fun ways. Things really like the patch content was tough to get get through, but the end it really picked up and was like whoa, like oh yeah, um, so it's been fun to jump in through that. The thing I'm waiting for is I did start the archer class, so I'm like slowly leveling up that. I also started the weaver and I want another class. I don't know if it's like a white mage or something or dragoon, but I'm trying to figure out what my other options are and like explain I feel like tom should try melee dps like dragoon.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, try a non-caster where you don't have to wait yeah for the spell to go. The difference is obviously you have to get up in their face yeah and you take more damage. But, like, I feel like you should try it, it's a totally different I'm curious.

Speaker 2:

I have the dark knight thing open. What I'm waiting for is the doma, the domans. I want to be able to do their thing oh shoot, what were the stormblood classes?

Speaker 1:

dancer, the one that my brother wants me to try oh, is that it?

Speaker 2:

was it Dancer?

Speaker 1:

was one of them. I think yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know, because they're always teasing like you should come train with us. I'm like, yeah, how, where is the quest? I can't.

Speaker 1:

I think Samurai was the other one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh look, gil loves the game too.

Speaker 2:

Oh good.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're going to be playing Actually, gil discord server because we have to log in at the same time so we can add you to our friends list. Oh, there we go. Yeah, actually, you know what I should do in our discord servers create a final fantasy. 14. I'm I'm I'm very happy you're I'm happy you're doing the discord server.

Speaker 2:

I'm happy that but no, I'm glad it's there and I mean I will poke in. But discord just confuses the heck out of me every time I feel like I figured it out I feel like the biggest boomer that ever boomed don't boom, babe, don't don't you worry.

Speaker 1:

Look see, I'm showing you the discourse server. It'll be back. Oh look, he's black mage level 30.

Speaker 2:

Oh hey, I'm also black me, yeah I really like black mage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, good that's what I started out in, wow oh no, I love it.

Speaker 2:

So it's like that. Well, wow, it's like that.

Speaker 1:

Well, WoW is a little bit different, but because I was a warlock.

Speaker 2:

So I did casting but I had a like a demon that would go and tank. Oh, okay, yeah, I don't have that. Yeah, you have a Chocobo, he's great.

Speaker 1:

So now I have to kick my kid off of his gaming rig and take over his Final Fantasy XIV account. He has a Final Fantasy XIV account and also you should totally. Yeah, yes. The answer is yes to that Cool, but yeah, you can't play this anymore because your dad is doing it. I can't get into another game. I have so many on my plate. I'll just watch y'all Kombucha. I'm just going to tell you Final Fantasy XIV is free. It's free.

Speaker 2:

Well, up until I mean it's free, the first, like 300 hours are free, basically yeah. It's nuts how much of the game is free?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mute most Discord servers. I'm in. They get so noisy I just can't. Yeah, I mute all. Well, actually I'm not even in. I'm in the Ecamm Live community, which is muted, and I just check in whenever. And then the couples table I don't have muted because there's not a lot of action in there. It's bearable, yeah, all right. Well, that was a fun episode. Yeah, congrats again, oh thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

Congrats again on 150,000 subscribers. I know we went on this whole tangent about how it's not about the numbers, but Congrats on your numbers.

Speaker 1:

we went on this whole tangent about how it's not about the numbers, but congrats on your numbers. Well, I feel like the difference is that you're not chasing the numbers right, and so when you are focused on the content that you're creating and you're leveling up and you know, I see obviously how much strategy and planning that goes into producing your videos and then people, then it's like not chasing numbers. But the people who have subscribed have chosen to be there because they like what you're creating, yeah, that's awesome, yeah I feel like that's the.

Speaker 2:

You know what everyone wants yeah, I'm really grateful for that, because it's every time I get like messages from people or we've been able like the bnh thing in new york or at nab, where we've gotten to like spend some time in person.

Speaker 1:

It's every time I get like messages from people or we've been able like the B&H thing in New York or at NAB, where we've gotten to like spend some time in person it's like oh, this is really cool, like every, because everybody is really cool and interesting and it's not just. It's not just sort of like empty numbers yeah, uh, my most recent Final Fantasy period was Final Fantasy 10 on the PS2.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my, that's when you're driving your stick shift yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, I guess that was a long time ago, but Final Fantasy X was a good one, steven.

Speaker 2:

Join the Discord. Just join the Discord, use my.

Speaker 1:

Twitch handle Maker and Geek Great. Good to see you in there. I'm on Hyperion, we're on Lamia.

Speaker 2:

Lamia.

Speaker 1:

I'm on Hyperion, we're on Lamia, lamia, yep, alright, everybody.

Speaker 2:

That was fun yeah time to go to the table. Thanks for hanging out with us, thanks for all the kind words and all the things, and we're gonna go get some ice cream thanks to Gil, because it's ice cream day.

Speaker 1:

Hope you have a safe happy, healthy, fun.

Speaker 2:

Rest of your day, a great weekend and we'll see you next time bye.