The Couple's Table
The Couple’s Table is a weekly livestream podcast hosted by Heather Ramirez and Tom Buck. Join us, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, as long as we both shall podcast and stuff!
The Couple's Table
staying SANE as a youtuber 😵💫
✅GEAR OF THE WEEK (Amazon)
Govee Strip Lights https://geni.us/Y8UE
Vocaster Two https://geni.us/vocasterdos
Have you ever wondered how prominent YouTubers like Mr. Beast balance authenticity with growth pressures? Episode 149 of The Couple's Table dives into the high-octane world of long-term YouTube careers and the mental toll it can take. Heather and I candidly discuss our journey toward our 150th episode milestone, touching on the technical hiccups we've faced, like troubleshooting camera settings in Ecamm, and how we've managed to stay true to ourselves amidst the chaos. This isn’t just a celebration; it's a raw look at the nitty-gritty of being a content creator.
Join us for an in-depth discussion on the evolving landscape of YouTube. We compare the realities of solo creators versus those with large production teams, shedding light on misconceptions about the scale of YouTube productions. We dive into the pressures of scaling up, the potential pitfalls of becoming a manager, and the relentless demands of the YouTube algorithm. Plus, Heather introduces our "Gear of the Week" segment by showcasing the non-flicker, affordable Govee RGB strip lights, perfect for enhancing on-camera presentations.
Our chat isn’t all business; we share personal anecdotes and light-hearted moments, from travel tales to the joy of community-building. We talk about our experiences in Spain, the quirky rivalry between Texas and Alaska, and even entertain the idea of Tom trying out pastel hair dyes. As we wrap up, we touch on our future plans, including leveling up the podcast with live streams and video recordings. Whether you're a fellow creator or an avid listener, this episode is packed with insights, laughter, and plenty of inspiration. Tune in and be part of our journey!
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hello and welcome. My name is tom and I'm heather, and you're sitting at the couple's table.
Speaker 2:The couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, and with new graphics, yay, welcome to episode 149 of the couple's table, which means that we have a pretty big milestone coming up next week. Episode one, five, zero, oh my gosh, it's been 150 episodes since we got married I don't know if most people measure their marriage in episodes, but okay, yay.
Speaker 2:So I don't know what we're going to do, but we're going to do something fun, so I hope you join us next Friday 1 pm Pacific Standard Time Friday.
Speaker 1:All right Time to wrap it up, all right.
Speaker 2:Let's check in with the comments. Today we are talking about staying sane, as a youtuber and tech troublemaker is chiming in saying he prefers to be crazy to being sane. Crazy people do so much better at the same thing than someone who thinks they are sane.
Speaker 1:Usually they are crazy I think our, our premise does have one problem, because it does work on the assumption that we are saying so sean grogan is here.
Speaker 2:Hi, yb negative. Hi folks, mr camera jockey in the house. Hi everyone. Retro countdown, homesick mac. Hi everyone, cool vignette. Wow, the real pell room. Hey, hey, call me cubby's in the house also, hello, hello. And mel and Melanie Hello, happy Friday. We're trying to level things up around here, yeah.
Speaker 1:Heather especially, put a lot of time into figuring out all kinds of things that might look very simple. Actually, I'm going to pitch a question to my fellow Ecamm folk in here.
Speaker 2:How the heck do you change the picture settings for your camera per scene? Because I was like trying to change. I was trying. So we have a TV in the countdown and I was trying. I wanted Tom to like change the colors to make it look retro-y.
Speaker 1:Kind of desaturated and like vibe-y which we did.
Speaker 2:But then it changes the camera settings, like for in every scene.
Speaker 1:If you do it. We ended up just using the sepia thing because time ran out and that doesn't affect the camera in other scenes, but the actual adjustments like brightness, contrast, all that kind of, or brightness, temperature, tint, saturation, gamma, those do carry over. There's like not a way to have it apply to that camera.
Speaker 2:Just on that yes, and I added the camera as an overlay. I tried to find an answer, but it's hard with Ecamm because it's like unless someone has that exact specific problem, I don't know if I'm like saying it.
Speaker 1:Well, this is one of those things that I feel like should have been solved a long time ago. So it has to be possible. Yeah, for sure, but I don't know why, unless it's a bug or something.
Speaker 2:It's not a bug. Anyway hey everyone, andre is here. Woo-woo, hey everyone. Finally Friday, finally Friday. Audio hotline in the house hey, hey, all right, tom.
Speaker 1:Does that mean we get to launch into a?
Speaker 2:new segment. We're trying Our new segment.
Speaker 1:Wow, is this a segue to a segment?
Speaker 2:Yes, it is yeah.
Speaker 1:So. So One thing we've noticed is, regardless of our topic, sometimes the top of the show sort of can you know almost feel a little distracted because we usually end up talking about stuff, some kind track, or you know we should be on track, we're getting off track. Why not embrace that and just have a gear of the week segment at the beginning of each show where we can each share something that we're excited about, maybe something we're using or something we got or something we rediscovered, whatever it is something we want to share, and that way that can kind of like get all the gear talk gear out of our systems if we need to, before diving into the show's topic for that week.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that's what we're going to do, and Tom and I are going to each have a gear of the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To showcase, which I'm really excited, because Tom and I use very different gear. Yeah, so this will be fun, yeah, so this will be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it will be very fun. So what are you highlighting here?
Speaker 2:So, as you guys know, I have been working. We have been working on redesigning the office. We have one thing that hopefully we will actually have up by our next episode, since episode 150, we should try to get that up.
Speaker 2:It's one thing, because we switched so many things and built so many things and designed all these things, we didn't change the background at all. But we bought one thing for the background and hopefully we can figure it out by next week. But before that I have two Govee strip lights. These are just like RGB lights.
Speaker 1:The brand is G-O-V-E-E. Yes, go-v.
Speaker 2:And it's just been like it's just so good for setting the mood and they don't flicker in camera. Tom tested it, even with the slow-mo.
Speaker 1:They're pretty affordable. I'm pretty impressed with them. Honestly, I'm impressed with the whole Goviverse because they make a lot of different lights.
Speaker 2:Okay, so check it out. I'm going to show you what they look like in my office. We're going to turn off the studio lights for a second and then I'm going to show you um with this camera, because you have to see what we're looking at. So can you change the camera?
Speaker 1:Oh sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I turned off the wrong one. Hold on.
Speaker 1:Oh, our scene is locked so we cannot change. The camera Still can't change. Oh, do we have the stinking preview thing up? What's up here? What's going on? Why can't we change?
Speaker 2:our camera.
Speaker 1:This is cool though this is cool, but why?
Speaker 2:let's do the three dots show no how do we switch that?
Speaker 1:what is happening?
Speaker 2:see, it's because I changed everything. I genuinely.
Speaker 1:I actually do think that your ecam is having some bugs no, because I restarted a million times. No no, I know, but mr camera junkie's instructions on how to do the color are what we already did oh so I actually think that this ecam is buggy um well, here let me do, yeah don't know.
Speaker 2:What if you switch this to like that?
Speaker 1:Maybe. Yeah, do that, let's try that. Okay, we'll get there. Hey, that worked All right fine.
Speaker 2:All right. So this is what it looks like, and there's also strip lights over there, but let me show you what it looks like, what's really Like how we actually put it in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me show you what it looks like, what's really Like, how we actually put it in.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What's really cool is these are long. There's like two strips per thing, is it? Well, you can get 16 feet, 32 feet, you can get 16, 32 or 10 feet. So you just stuck them to the back of these shelves, these front facing things of the shelves right here, and the what's it called the adhesive is pretty good. You're tilt down a little bit. There we go. Yeah, you can see it a little bit better there. I mean, they're they're the regular led like rgb strips that you've seen everywhere, but they they work really well and they're really really long. They have controllers.
Speaker 1:There's a whole app, of course, which usually is not my favorite thing in the world, but the app works really well and you can connect a whole bunch of different stuff. So, hey, there's me, so like. So you have your strip lights here, you have a new thing there, you have lights are gonna get here and you also have this thing up here above us. Boom, there's a whole, just a ceiling light and they're all the same thing. So they can all be like linked together through the app and adjusted through the app. And is this what is happening? Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is weird. Oh no, you have to go here Video source yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2:Whoa.
Speaker 1:All right, good job.
Speaker 2:Good filming there. So link in the description to uh amazon where you can find it. I have the. I have two 32 feet ones yeah but you can go longer and you're gonna get another.
Speaker 1:Like cool, they have ones that can, like are designed to go around corner oh yeah, I mean you're talking about one.
Speaker 2:I want to buy the whole store quite affordable.
Speaker 1:They're good. They're high quality lights. I like them. Yeah, and I put that same ceiling light in my studio too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the app has like a I think you said this it has a bunch of like moods and color themes and everything. It's just, it's even like a, so cool.
Speaker 1:You can. You know, if you have something you really like can download like your preset for free, which is pretty fun, sweet.
Speaker 2:All right, tom, what's your?
Speaker 1:gear of the week. Gear of the week. I'm gonna give a shout out to something old but rediscovered. Actually, can you use your ndi?
Speaker 2:yes, I am happy to do that and we'll just switch.
Speaker 1:Uh, we'll just use this switcher, which is not the official switcher. Uh, if we can't, there we go, but jam, there we go. I'm gonna choose this guy right here, which is the new interface that we put in when we redid your studio, which is the focus right vocaster to the reason it's called the two is because there are two XLR inputs right there and this is really nice. What's cool about this is because there are two. There's a vocaster, one that is relatively affordable, the vocaster to what's really is. See, we have like host and guests. You can mute things here, you can unmute them here, and there's also an enhance button.
Speaker 1:So right now we're on the guest. That means we each have our own headphones. If you're using headphones, I can press guest and I can adjust my levels. I can press host, I can adjust Heather's levels. But what I really like is this switch right here. If I turn that off, probably my audio should have changed. This is just the PodMic USB straight out of the package and if I push this I enhance the sound a little bit, which is pretty cool. There's companion software that goes with this. There's some defaults there, but that is really helpful and the reason I like that is because what I'm used to so much is in my studio I have like a Rodecaster or a DLZ or something that really lets me process sound, so using mics like the.
Speaker 1:SM7B or the PodMic. You kind of need to process those sounds before they sound the way that I like them to sound. So I tend to avoid using those mics on the couples table because I don't really like the way the PodMic sounds out of the box. The SM7B sounds really dull out of the box like, so I just don't use them. Now I can use them more often because I can. I can actually. Just it's not like any much like the pod mic. You just want to boost the lows, lower the the highs a little bit, add a little compression yeah yours.
Speaker 1:We don't have any effects or processing on because your voice don't need it, but for me it's super cool because it opens up. It basically means I can use all the mics that I have in here instead of I'm kind of just leaning towards like condensers, because a lot of the condensers I have just sound good as is and so I haven't been using most of my dynamic mics for a while.
Speaker 2:Awesome, that was cool.
Speaker 1:This has been gear of the week Transition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard an error. Okay, all right, so all righty. Uh, let's check in with the comments. Beta or gold version of ecams.
Speaker 1:As tech troublemaker, you're using a legit one, like the official version. You're on beta, are you? No? But it is weird because the thing that Mr Camera Junkie said about like you adjust your stuff does it apply to all scenes?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't click that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's weird and the option sometimes also is not there.
Speaker 2:Maybe I need to reinstall and then the I don't want to reinstall, delete my scenes.
Speaker 1:The switcher just now, like we had the camera switcher and it wouldn't let us switch between cameras, so we had to like literally select a different video source, which is weird because it's like here's the switcher, we're switching the angle. It's not working. We've obviously both used Ecamm. These are basic Ecamm features. We're using it for many years, so that's why I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 2:I changed a lot of things today, though I I'm not 100% sure about that.
Speaker 1:Well, the camera switching, though, like it was not selecting what we selected. There's no other way.
Speaker 2:I'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. Best part of a live stream is going off the walls, I think, says Sean Tech. Troublemaker says I love my Govee lights, I have light strings, two light curtains, oh the light curtains.
Speaker 1:I saw those. I was interested in those because at first, oh, and we were thinking of what to do with your backdrop here. Those were one of the things I suggested. Yeah, I think doc has I don't know if it's a govi, but doc has like a light curtain that goes in his background uh, mr camera junkie also changed over to govi and have been impressed with the quality.
Speaker 2:I control my govi with alexa tech for your needs. Hello folks. Jeremy's here says the vc2 is my go-to interface for a long while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mentioned this last week, but since we talked about it specifically this week, it also does have Bluetooth output, which is cool, but it's the only only one of these interfaces mixers, whatever Rodecasters included that has a 3.5 millimeter camera output. So, straight just 3.5 millimeter cable right into your camera's mic input, and then you can use it as an xlr interface for ernesto's here.
Speaker 2:Hello tom and heather, happy friday. No, no textual mic says does it require the cloud lifter for the sm7b with that interface?
Speaker 1:no, that's that it was. It was one of the first when interfaces started being like revamped, with more gain, like 70 I forget what it is, maybe 76, 72 or 76 is what's in there, I forget exactly, but it was like one of the first. And now pretty much every interface you would expect has a lot, but this was one of the OGs Built in power and Textual Maker confirms that scenes will remain if you uninstall and reinstall. I'm sure you will investigate more before taking those drastic measures.
Speaker 2:It's awesome that there is an Ecamm support right here in our chat. Thank you, alright, so we are going to talk about staying sane on YouTube, tom.
Speaker 1:See, Now we can look at us, you can just transition, everything is nice and carpet.
Speaker 2:Oh, real quick. Mr Camera Junkie says super easy. Export your profile, remove Ecamm, download and test. If everything works, reinstall the profiles and you're good to go. You don't lose anything.
Speaker 1:The profile thing is awesome Like I moved everything over from my Mac mini to my MacBook and it like it's so nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I might have to.
Speaker 1:We'll see, but there's solutions obviously. Yeah, all right, staying sane. So how did this come up?
Speaker 2:Well, I had been watching a little bit of YouTube tea. A little bit of YouTube tea.
Speaker 1:A little bit of YouTube tea over the past week or two and I was just like, wow, it seems like a lot of creators, especially some larger ones, seems like they've gone crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Why does that happen? Why is this a thing that seems to happen, especially for people who have been, you know, doing it for a longer period of time, and I was just kind of curious about that. And what? What can you do as somebody who wants to be a creator on youtube and wants to, you know, maintain your I guess you call it your authentic self and but also still grow and also still?
Speaker 2:integrity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but you know it doesn't mean you don't want views, you don't want your channel to grow, you don't want to earn revenue like it's not, that it's. You know this how do you navigate that world when it seems so easy that people I don't think anyone, I should say anyone, I don't think most people intend to like find themselves in these crazy situations?
Speaker 1:I think, it's something that it's like the what is it like the frog boiling in water. It's something that slowly happens over a period of time and then you don't even realize. Like, oh my god, like where we ended up. So how do you, you know, avoid those things?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's hard. I I don't know, because right now it kind of seems like there's a lot in the headlines when it comes to youtube creators, and so there's a part of me that's like well, of course, the news is going to highlight stuff that's bad, and you know there's tons of stuff that is fine or good, but not newsworthy, um, but also I feel like it's the first time that someone has been able to, uh like have such a successful career for this long on youtube and as a content creator, and so it's like, you know, it kind of feels like, oh my god, you. So it's like, you know, it kind of feels like, oh my God, you know, it's like when all the YouTubers were quitting.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It kind of felt like, oh my God, all the YouTubers are quitting. But it's like this is the first time that you were actually able to have a 10, 15 year career on YouTube.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so it's just the first time it's happening.
Speaker 1:It couldn't be a long time YouTuber that quit 15 years ago exactly so I feel like a little bit is part of that.
Speaker 2:But, um, mr beast is one of the people who has popped up in my feed a lot in in terms of commentary videos and news and stuff about um, how the how the business has been run and how the content's been made and stuff like that. Um, you know, I I try not to like follow all this stuff, but between the two of us it's like oh, I've been following it like crazy.
Speaker 1:I'll gladly admit that. Okay, well, could you give?
Speaker 2:us the summary of what's happening with mr beast right now probably not, because there's so much.
Speaker 1:Just like surface level, a surface level summary is that a week or two ago, a former employee put out a video that kind of highlighted some things that they were saying happened behind the scenes. They had a lot of pretty substantiating evidence for the things they were saying and it wasn't great and that sort of kicked off. It sort of opened the floodgates for a lot of other people to either come forward with their own experiences, dig into stuff a little deeper. You know that's a very high profile person on this platform, the highest profile person on this platform probably and so there's a lot of. You know, there's sort of a lot of attention drawn to something like that.
Speaker 1:And the interesting thing is, when you're that big, you're not it's not like you never get criticized. You know you've received criticism for many years, but it almost seems like there's so much defense whenever there's criticism. And this is the first time where it's like you're not really seeing that, you kind of are seeing the audience turn, which is, you know, scary. It's not something that I would want to happen to anybody, but also, if you've done really crappy, terrible things, I Part of it. So here's we're talking about sanity. The reason this makes me feel good and I feel bad saying this.
Speaker 1:But like this is incredibly vindicating, because I have felt like a crazy person for years by kind of feeling like something's not right here and feeling like, well, maybe I'm just, I don't know, maybe I'm jealous, maybe I don't get it, maybe I'm whatever. It's like, oh, no, something wasn't right there, okay. And the reason that I think that that's maybe an important discussion for people on YouTube to have is because one of my biggest complaints with Mr Beast and we've talked about this before is that it's not even a guy, it's not even one guy, it's a whole corporation, right, like it's a giant thing. And they're not. They do not hide the, the production side of things, the crew side of things.
Speaker 1:Like obviously there's so much work that goes into the studio that makes the videos that they make, but there's something about it where it's still promoted it's almost like treated like a solo person channel it's treated like a solo person channel, knowing that the main audience is primarily children like they're gonna think it's a solo person channel.
Speaker 2:So there's that aspect, but also when we go to nab the most recent nab, the person who's running the talk about how to be successful on youtube or how to how to get started on youtube today, is the ceo of mr beast and that's why I was laughing.
Speaker 2:I was like the channel has a ceo and it's not the guy whose name is on the channel and it's just like, uh, I don't know, I it's hard because, like my, my instinct is, I wish that there was some kind of, uh, sense of responsibility, that you are kind of representing content creators and, uh, you know, obviously you are being invited to to do these talks and to, uh, you know, encourage a next generation of content creators. But it's like, but we're so different, um, and I feel like there is no sense of responsibility which, like, yeah, you know, it's not, like that's an elected position. You don't have to feel a sense of responsibility, you can do whatever you want, you know. But it's also like you are the only one who is of that uh stature, you know, like you have position, whether you like it or not. So I don't know.
Speaker 1:For me, the reason that I care about this is because I have seen people drive themselves insane trying to think that they can do what a channel like that does To copy, to imitate, to mimic, not even just the style, but to think that you can grow, you can implement these strategies, you can do these things, you can reach. This is what success looks like.
Speaker 1:It's not even. It's not possible. Like you're trying to do something, it's not possible. Like you're trying to do something. It's the thing. It's even like an amped up version of the old school thing where you would you stand at the checkout line at a grocery store and see, like the fashion magazines that have like the super buff person or the super like supermodel, and feel like, oh, I'll never look like that and it's like they don't even look like that. They might look like a version of that, but like that is also airbrushed and adjusted and messed like the before and after of the original photo and the thing that's on the magazine doesn't even look the same. Nobody actually looks like that. You're gonna drive yourself crazy trying to achieve it.
Speaker 1:This is even more so because it's like it and and I think it's very, I think it has been very harmful to a lot of people because so much both in terms of the channel itself, presenting stuff in ways that just aren't accurate and making people think like, ah, just run a YouTube channel, crazy, right, it's fun, wacky, no. And then also because you then are in this position, elected or not, where people look up and listen to what you say. Then people start dictating. You know their not even just what they're doing, what they're telling other people to do, like we've seen whole you know coaching methodology shift because of one tweet.
Speaker 1:We've seen like yeah who are just like look, I want to put a lot of effort, I want to put a lot of time into making this YouTube channel. I want to do the best that I can. I want to have it grow the best. So you're going to look at the biggest and you're going to see what the biggest are doing and how you could do some of that, and that's the part that has been like. It's the same reason, like. It reminds me of the feeling of why, talking about microphones, even though I'm less and less of a fan of the blue yeti as time goes on emotionally I'm a big fan of it, but practically I'm less and less of a fan I will never sit there and be like and really like rip on it, because I will always think of the person in the back of the room who's sitting there with their blue yeti and who has one?
Speaker 2:yeah, what I got and no, that's horrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what if it's?
Speaker 2:the only what if it was like someone gave it to him as a gift and now you're making them feel bad about?
Speaker 1:it. So I always think of like. Here's a situation where someone in a, in a position of authority, power, influence, whatever it might be, is saying something how is that like, affecting the like, the most vulnerable? I guess I don't know if that's the right term, but um, and that that's what. That's why I actually care about this stuff, and I've seen this, this, I've seen trying to duplicate and implicate, implicate, replicate. These things really drive people nuts, and for me to sort of have the facade fall away and the house of cards tumble is is kind of like okay, see, it didn't actually exist, the thing you were trying to do. They're not even doing that way, like it doesn't exist. So stop driving yourself crazy, right, all right, let's check in with the comments.
Speaker 2:Mr camera jockey says in my opinion has to do with their purpose. If your purpose is selfish, you might bend some rules to get to the top. Pierre lingard in the house, what's? Up, legit just tuned in locker room, is here a long time. No see, uh the king, hi tom and heather from not as hot as normal phoenix area yeah, it's slightly.
Speaker 2:We're not in phoenix, but you know it's slightly cooler in our area today it's a little bit cooler, as in like, when we went for a walk at six in the morning it was 89.
Speaker 1:Degrees Fahrenheit which is like 35, 36 degrees Celsius maybe.
Speaker 2:Peter says it's interesting how YouTube careers is still not something that is figured out. Yes, I mean, I think it'll always be changing. Melanie, being a YouTuber is still such a new job, so it's fascinating to see the evolution of it all.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Andre says, honestly, the YouTube craziness the last couple of weeks feels like YouTube catching up with real life in general, because those things have been going on for a while. That's kind of how I feel. It's like we're just seeing what happens in every other industry in this one. Right, because it's aging. You know, peter says I'm not a fan of mr beast at all, but hey, everyone has a different taste.
Speaker 2:I think youtube is, at its core, a single person's endeavor for everyone to follow but I'm a married person melanie, it's sad because all the one-person youtubers without a team blame themselves for not working hard enough, when others have whole teams behind them.
Speaker 1:We need to give ourselves grace well, it's just, it's being realistic with that, you know, like like there's nothing wrong with having a team, there's nothing wrong with being a solo creator so here, here's my thing with like mr beast right is because for some reason, it's not.
Speaker 2:Even this is not. I don't think that this is him or the company or whatever, but for some reason I think it's because the channel is called mr beast. Everyone else puts that on like, paints it as if it is this. Just it's just a guy, it's just jimmy um.
Speaker 2:And I have appreciated having a spokesperson for youtube because I do think he has contributed to why YouTube is still separate from the rest of social media, like it's. It's, it's not going away, it's an anchor platform. Everything else to me is like, super volatile, but YouTube will always have a have its place and I do think a big part of that is because of Mr Beast. And I think that YouTube I mean I think financially they've grown a lot because of Mr Beast and I think that YouTube I mean I think financially they've grown a lot because of Mr Beast.
Speaker 2:But I wish you also recognize that as Mr Beast, because if you come under fire, it like can potentially have drastic consequences for everyone else who uses the platform, because he has that. You know, he, they, it, that empire has that kind of pull, reach, impact and it's like you know, I can't even imagine. I can't imagine how much money you know that's a huge. I feel like they're a line item in YouTube's budget and if, all of a sudden, there's just I don't know, bajillion views not happening the way that it used to. It makes me nervous. It makes me nervous.
Speaker 1:But that's why I it doesn't make me as nervous, because I don't think YouTube should have that kind of a pillar. I don't think there should be any one thing that if that falls.
Speaker 2:Well, I hope they know that.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't, I have no idea.
Speaker 2:This is just what I think, how I feel. Uh homesick, mac. In a way, youtube is for me exactly the same like the music scene diverse to hell, but there's space for everyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's people doing it for all different reasons and all kinds of different levels of success performing songs.
Speaker 2:They didn't write the whole thing, right yeah, peter, I've tried bringing in people to my business, but it's always been so much pressure I've reverted back to hiring people when I need it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's a difference too between like having someone help you out. Like a contractor versus an employee, even though, Peter's like had people like try to help film and edit and stuff. It's still very clearly your channel. It's still very clearly your individual channel. It's like you know, yeah, You've helped me film stuff in the past Like it doesn't take away from that and I feel like calling it like a solo creator's channel is not a lie at all.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:And I don't think the Mr B's channels are necessarily, I don't think they are trying to perpetuate it as like it's a solo creator making videos?
Speaker 2:I don't think so either.
Speaker 1:I don't think so at all either. But I do think, though, especially your audience is so young and just cannot differentiate.
Speaker 2:They don't know.
Speaker 1:They don't. They don't To them, YouTube channels all work. The same.
Speaker 2:They don't know. Their parents don't know. Everything's the same.
Speaker 1:And that's where, to me, it gets very like it just gets a. That's a problem.
Speaker 2:Andre, I think that is a very smart way of doing it. Mr langren, don't expand until you really have to uh more people, more problems, jeremy, I feel like youtube is slowly shifting away from the public access nature of the platform into a commercialized enabling platform for channels with deep pockets you wanted to have a public access show at one time, didn't you?
Speaker 1:I did I did too, well, I didn't.
Speaker 2:But, um, okay, so way back in the day, uh, in 2016, when I was just starting out, I didn't have anything. I had a macbook air, that's it. But in the city of long beach that I worked, that I lived in, they had like a decent budget for community programs and like, just like I don't know what are they called Parks and Rec? Sure, yeah, they had a really a media center that anybody can go to, where they film their public access stuff. But you can use final cut, adobe, premiere, all these computers, pcs max, for free, that's if you live there. That's all you had to do. Um, and then then there was classes, like you know, you can work one-on-one with someone to learn how to use these programs and then you can actually, you know, take what you've learned, make a show for public access in the Habit Air. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:For free. That is really cool, it was just crazy.
Speaker 2:So I was like, well, if it's free anyway, like hell, yeah, I'll put my stuff up on the public access channel.
Speaker 1:I don't think we had anything like that here locally, but I remember around like 2007, so youtube was around, but it was different than it is now. That was the place. Youtube was the place I would go to, like watch this one funny video, or like you know, someone sends you a video or something. It's not like it is now and there were a couple public access shows locally and I remember thinking like everyone wants to be huge. No one wants to dominate public access.
Speaker 2:What if like it's like me and one of my friends, I was like what if we just our goal?
Speaker 1:was to, just like absolutely dominate public access.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, so here back to Jeremy's comment. I feel like YouTube is slowly shifting away from the public access nature of the platform until commercialized, enabling platform channels to do pockets. I feel commercialize enabling powerful channels to do pockets I feel like youtube. I hope that youtube will never um. I feel like they recognize that they were built off of the solo one person being authentic. You can have this kind of connection in a way that you can't with any other media. I feel like they recognize that. So I feel like that's not going to go away. I do feel like they've also made a lot of space for the commercialized, enabling platform situations I think there's room for both.
Speaker 2:I don't mind both being there, because I also think that you know I don't want to say that most people, most of the people that I know who watch YouTube, prefer the like, the opposite right the more public access-y.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's definitely audience demand for that.
Speaker 2:Peter says I honestly don't think one needs to expand. I have a six-figure business but still manage to do all the things myself.
Speaker 1:I think that's like knowing when enough is enough is such an important thing that nobody really talks about. And that's the thing you know. We've talked about this before but especially living in like whatever it's called late-stage capitalism, where you just need infinite growth at all costs. Like if there's a company that has $20 billion in like revenue or profits or whatever this quarter and then they 20 billion dollars in revenue next quarter they're failing, yeah, because there's not growth, even though it's like 20 billion dollars. So there's no way to fix that. I don't think. But as an individual, I think there is a thing of like okay, like how much do I need, how much much do I have? You know, think about the future, and you can kind of come to a situation where it's like as long as I'm in this little zone right here.
Speaker 1:I'm good and maybe it doesn't need to be year over year.
Speaker 2:Blue Yetis are a place for newcomers to start, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I have my Blue Yeti right here.
Speaker 1:It definitely holds a very, very special place in in my heart.
Speaker 2:But especially as time goes on, it's just harder and harder to recommend because there's so many tom tried to make a video with the blue yeti recently and it was terrible, so he had to scrap it.
Speaker 1:Well, ironically, the video was how to make the blue yeti sound good and he couldn't the answer. Answer was hmm, okay, we're just going to throw this video away.
Speaker 2:Peter says it's easy to think that we need more people to help us make better videos, but in reality, we just need more time to make the videos we want. Ooh, ooh, that's it Looking at the air horn there.
Speaker 1:Well, it's also, you know, it's easy to look around and see what others are doing, Like someone got an office. Someone got an office someone got an assistant. Someone's doing that Like I should be doing that, instead of going like someone got an office. Why did they get an office?
Speaker 2:Like you know, oh, they got an office. Do you need an office? Yeah?
Speaker 1:They have a tiny apartment with a newborn in it, so working from home doesn't make sense. They needed a separate location. Oh well, we have, we don't need a separate. Like yeah, it's hard looking at, you know, you see someone doing something that you kind of feel the tug of oh, I feel like I should be doing that. Yeah, I think it's important to try to figure out, at least as best you can, why they're doing it, and the why might be very different from what you need andre says exactly, peter, no need to bloat.
Speaker 2:That's the crazy part, jeremy. It feels like youtube is getting out of control, but the megacorp channels are a very small part of youtube yeah, because I also youtube.
Speaker 1:Still just people, I I feel like people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like there's a, there's always gonna be a place for, like you know, your netflix, your hulu and that equivalent on youtube, but I I also think that people like connecting with that person. That reminds them of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Why be negative? Pay not attention to the man behind the curtain? Own a coffee. In my professional world, I've always relied on staff to handle many of the details of operations.
Speaker 1:It is a serious burden, serious, serious burden, because you know that your decisions affect so many lives. But it is difficult. That's what I think happens to a lot of people who do expand and and it goes well, like you know, things do well is that they then they find themselves in now a manager's position. It's like wait, I didn't want to be. And even going back to mr beast, like I guess he's not the ceo of his channel, but obviously he's like the boss of the channel, probably not great equipped, not super well equipped, to be the boss of a lot of people, like just which is you know? Like it's almost that thing. Sometimes you know that we've been watching more sports Sometimes, like a retired athlete will like take a broadcasting position and it's like, well, okay, they might be the best player in this sport or this position of all time, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be a great broadcaster.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing because, like, yeah, being a good like performer or YouTube creator the person who's on like the face of the channel does not necessarily mean that you are business savvy or know how to handle HR or legal matters or the books and finances and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:And you know, I think I don't know well, it's interesting to manage a large company, large number of employees, if you're someone who's never had a job I don't know how, maybe that might not lead to good things, yeah to do everything yourself, especially as you design to grow, carrying on of the last oh, peter, I think one of the biggest differences with youtube is that you can't rely on anyone else. You are the business.
Speaker 1:That's got pros and cons, because it's also all the pressure that comes with it.
Speaker 2:Andre, the fun part about my home feed is I never get big star random channel suggestions in my home feed, so the algorithm is doing something right.
Speaker 1:I don't really either. Maybe some in the tech space once in a while, but like I've never had a mr beast video recommended to me, I haven't either I've had like now especially no well, no criticism and commentary. I can't say that I.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've seen some of the most popular thumbnails, or I don't know if it was.
Speaker 1:I saw it on someone else's channel doing commentary see, that's yeah, his face will be in there, but it's not on those kevin.
Speaker 2:What's up? Uh, let's see. The david Dobrik debacle a while ago was also a show, but almost everybody forgot about that yeah, it's funny how well it's like there's a short-term memory.
Speaker 1:I think this might be different because of the scale of it, but like David's career doesn't seem to be doing great now, so it's like, even though people forgot about it, there still was a yeah, you're not doing anything, yeah yeah, I mean, of course, for a lot of these people. Maybe they don't even need to do anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're living off that ad sense. Uh, morty, what's up? Hey, how y'all doing this afternoon. Did you happen to see the zoom h1 xlr announcement? I do get pretty giddy about new gear in general, but this feels like a big deal for filmmakers. Run gun.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I did sign up for the like B&H pre-order notification list.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is what you told me about. Yes, so Tom's excited.
Speaker 1:I'm very excited. The thing I was talking to Bronson from Audio Hotline about this yesterday, the thing that I was confused about was versus the P4, which is currently at the same price. You have four inputs versus two inputs and we were like, well, it's 32-bit float higher quality versus not 32-bit float lower quality, sample rates, et cetera. They serve different purposes but I'm very excited for it.
Speaker 2:I want to try it out? Okay, we have to take a quick finly break, so why don't you hold this and I will switch the camera, boom, boom boom, corgi Corner. Hi Finley, hi Finley, all right, oh, okay, there you go. That media center sounds so awesome, melanie, you would have loved it. Seriously okay, there you go, that media center sounds so awesome.
Speaker 1:Melanie, you would have loved it. Seriously, that is a great idea.
Speaker 2:And then, like they had like studios. So there was, like you know, one studio that was like full green screen, there was, like you know, couches, and another one and this was like 2016, where podcasting was not a thing, I mean, you know 2007,.
Speaker 1:I'll say 27, 27 2007, when I wanted to dominate public broadcasting, that we had nothing like that. It was just anyone could submit something oh, like it was like the, the public access shows. If they weren't like city council meetings were like a couple shows that people were like.
Speaker 2:You know, as I movie three or whatever people were editing on andre, it's so funny how it was possible to buy VHS tapes and PBS content, like the lady and her son shooting squirrels and making squirrel melt sandwiches.
Speaker 1:What I think I missed that, which wasn't very funny.
Speaker 2:Sometimes one needs people to handle things so that one can get more time to actually make things, though that's the hard thing to balance, and that's where everybody's needs are a little bit different. What you're trying to do is a little bit different, melanie. I've been getting so many amazing smaller creators in my feed lately.
Speaker 1:I'm loving it. I think this is for everybody. I think youtube has really been pushing I've definitely. I found a smaller 72 subscribers got recognized yeah okay, cool peter.
Speaker 2:Well, I really gotta come visit again. I feel a us tour might be on the horizon. Yes, you're welcome anytime, sir.
Speaker 1:Horrific.
Speaker 2:Yes, that'd be awesome, Andre.
Speaker 1:I do think that a lot of creators think it's either grow or shrink, not really believing it's possible to keep things in a state of zero, Just a balanced maintenance stage, which is, again, we always talk about sustainability because you can be the firework that's real bright for a short amount of time, but it's like I want to be the tire fire, the one that just goes for decades.
Speaker 2:It can't be extinguished but it's nothing crazy.
Speaker 1:Audio hotline is also excited about the h1 xlr. Yes, I can't wait because being able to use 32-bit float with xlr mics in a tiny little tiny the quarter itself is like smaller than a phone andre says some people get to travel vlog to the us and some people get to travel to stockholm.
Speaker 2:Big versus small, tuber life yeah, both are cool too.
Speaker 1:So that's you know, we got to go to stockholm.
Speaker 2:That'd be awesome yeah, then we'll get stockholm syndrome wow, well, if you're just tuning in, I'm heather and this is tom, and I am very excited because I just made these overlays before the stream started.
Speaker 1:You've been working hard. Let me tell you who's she does. Heather doesn't realize what a pro she is with Canva Because I think I think it's like if you watch me do photos.
Speaker 2:OK, so I got to show you the countdown really quick, even though we've already counted in.
Speaker 1:But just like how cute was this? In case you didn't see it okay, we're still gonna be here, we're just gonna go to the countdown screen real quick okay, we're ready set. I mean, come on like, is this not the cutest thing ever? Though this is a lot of layers. All right, we're back. We are back. Y'all transition there it's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fun. Air fryer empor. We need it on a hat.
Speaker 1:Peter said no, gotham, damn it. Yes, they're like close. I mean closer than like California.
Speaker 2:Right Aren't they close.
Speaker 1:I mean, if we're going Put this, in Open up maps.
Speaker 2:Let's see this.
Speaker 1:If we're going all the way to Sweden, we could potentially hit both, because there's no yeah, that's what I was like, but. Sweden is also large.
Speaker 2:How large I just think. Everything else is a thousand times smaller than the US, so I don't.
Speaker 1:Well, actually, let me see there's a true scale map thing.
Speaker 2:Stockholm, stockholm to Gothenburg Okay, five hours. Five hours by car.
Speaker 1:Okay, here's vegas yeah, oh, here we go. There's a thing called the true size map oh, look at this.
Speaker 2:Wow, you have like the cool way to spell it gottenberg eats stockholm for breakfast much cooler city have you seen?
Speaker 1:this is sorry, this is off topic we have t-ail, sorry no that's yes.
Speaker 2:I want to go to all those places well, we should try to do like a, just like a meetup at like the next nab in vegas or something that's achievable yeah, like everybody here, flight should go there all three hours by train.
Speaker 1:That's even better train would be fun.
Speaker 2:We don't have like train we have the most excited swede right now in the comments steve gutenberg is here everybody all right, all right. So, uh, anyway, being sane are how are we feeling about being sane? I think okay. So, going back to the topic, I think one of the things to be conscious about, especially for us. So I'll speak for us.
Speaker 1:We can all speak for ourselves.
Speaker 2:I'll speak as a content creator who's been doing this eight years, and I also speak to you as your wife of you being a content creator is. I think any career is going to naturally have its ups and downs the longer you are in it, right? And I think that's especially true for YouTube, since YouTube is constantly evolving and times are changing and all of that constantly evolving and times are changing and all of that and the way that you know, the way that you feel about what you're doing is going to change, like that is a fact. And if you don't think, if you feel like you are, you know, immune to change, awesome, but I think most people your priorities are going to change. You know the way that you feel about things in your 30s versus your 40s and stuff like that. And I know for tom and I, we want to do this for as long as we can, like.
Speaker 1:We want this to be our last job um, and not because we died, because unless we died like 110, well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You took it there, sorry, yeah if something happens tomorrow.
Speaker 1:It was my last job. No, no yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think, like I think, just constantly just being aware of that, you know, being aware that sometimes you might not change anything, like everything might be the same, but internally you feel some kind of misalignment. You know, maybe it's just, maybe you're just not feeling it this way anymore, but that doesn't mean that, like you know you're doing it wrong or someone's doing it better, or you know you need to be doing it a certain way, or dah dah, dah dah, you know. So I think having a sense of community is always a good thing. You are really good about that.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the most valuable things you can have.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to interrupt your train of thought and also finding little ways to level things up, like changing your overlays or redesigning your office. Yeah, yeah, finding new tools, switching things out, I mean that's I'm saying this for the me that is obviously going to. You know, hit a wall in a year or whatever. Did you just yawn?
Speaker 1:oh my god I tried not to last week. We did it earlier, I don't know After lunch.
Speaker 2:Let's see I'm most probably going to be at NABLV. Sweet, awesome Three-hour train is like a Miami to Orlando.
Speaker 1:I still can't believe the scale of Florida. I've never been to Florida so I'm only recently really figuring out like ooh, that's a big state.
Speaker 2:I can literally go from Oslo to Gothenburg. Nice, greg. No board games today. Maybe we'll do that for next episode, because it's going to be episode 150 of the Couples Table, so we're going to do something fun and different. Maybe a board game or two. Homesickmac. I'm an immigrant to Sweden, fascinated by diversity, not only between nationalities, but also when it comes to native Swedes. My last job hashtag. My last job, greg. You want to retire as a content creator? There we go. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:So you know, what I think we could do which would be kind of cool is we had our segment at the beginning. We have 10 minutes left till the top of the hour. I think we don't have to stop talking about our topic, but maybe we can open things up if there are other things, If people want to continue.
Speaker 2:Look at Tom. Tom is really into the idea of segments on the couple table. It's organized structure. I love it.
Speaker 1:If people want to continue talking about the topic of staying sane on YouTube or anything we talked about today, let's dive into that, but also if there's something we want to talk about the 32-bit recorder and the whatever.
Speaker 2:Community corner segment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's a cool way to just sort of wrap it up, so that way also. You know, I've been the person in a live stream. I was like, oh, I want to go ask this person about this thing.
Speaker 2:But they're so specifically on a different topic.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, I don't want to derail, you know I want to make sure everybody gets, you know, yeah, thought of the thing that I was showing you.
Speaker 1:I don't know if, uh, anyone's ever been there, but if you go to the true sizecom, it's a you can find the true size of countries and continents on earth, and one fun thing that they'll do is it'll give you, like I'm showing heather, here's the united states, but you drag it around the map and you actually see how it compares because, like, if you, if you, if you look at a globe, like the world is round right, for most of us agree and when you look at a globe you see the size of everything on there, but stuff, like you know, antarctica is huge and like the scale is, is warped because you're putting, you're trying to wrap things around a sphere.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is cool because it lets you see like, oh my gosh, like how big or how small some countries are, like I don't know, it's fun, it's a cool thing. So it's fun to like take America and put it over Sweden, over here, and it is yeah, sweden is big, but sheesh, the US is so big.
Speaker 2:But yeah, sweden is big, but jeez the US is so big I'm trying to see like where I've been. I've been to Madrid, Ibiza, Barcelona. Look at that.
Speaker 1:Boom, boom. You want to put that up there so we can see it.
Speaker 2:No, it's fine. Okay, but you know what's weird about Barcelona and Madrid?
Speaker 1:No what.
Speaker 2:A lot of people speak English in Barcelona.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:No one speaks English in Madrid.
Speaker 1:Really and that close together.
Speaker 2:I mean it's not close, but Well, I mean, madrid is the capital. It's the United States version of close, so they speak Spanish, obviously, but yeah, like, as soon as we got off the train it was like nope.
Speaker 1:Not happening here. No, it was just left or right, anyway.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's a question when does Tom get a pastel hair dye job?
Speaker 1:Once I lose all my natural color.
Speaker 2:I told him because he's got a lot of lighter hair now. Feel free to take a tube, babe. I got purple, I got pink, I got blue.
Speaker 1:Indigo A few little accents.
Speaker 2:And let's just see what it looks like, because it's not going to stick to the brown, but it'll stick to the the silver, the silver.
Speaker 1:You don't want me to just be Silver Fox. I like the silver With my Steve Martin face.
Speaker 2:No, I don't. I like however you want to do it. I'm just saying if you want to experiment, you can.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:When I think of Sweden, I think of the Swedish chef.
Speaker 1:That is probably my favorite Muppet.
Speaker 2:I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 1:Swedish chef. Well, beaker, ah, beaker is probably my favorite. I can't imitate it, because I think it will be offensive Facts Florida is so big and Texas is bigger.
Speaker 2:Have you been to Texas?
Speaker 1:No, but I've been to Alaska, which Alaska and Texas fight each other over size.
Speaker 2:I thought Alaska was the biggest one. It is, and they are very proud of that, because if you go to Alaska there's a lot of stuff where it's like there's t-shirt with alaska and then like a little texas inside and it's like cute, oh my god, they'll do like you can go to.
Speaker 1:Like restaurants, alaska's like way bigger you can go to restaurants and get alaska size fries or something and it's like a huge order. You get texas size fries like the kids size yeah they really throw a lot of like shade texas and it's funny because they're not near each other at all, but yeah, what a random thing to yeah, it's also their. Their arbitrary like texas is just arbitrary lines, right. Like you know, it's not specific, it's all literally the same landmass in the end, whatever uh, you guys should do a scandinavian tour, I agree yeah, I mean we did.
Speaker 1:We did our iceland switzerland thing, but I would love to do more of that whole region see.
Speaker 2:So this is, this is our goal. We're going to we're doing little level ups here, we're leveling up the couples table, we're going to level up every little thing and eventually it's going to lead to the heather and tom sc avian tour sponsored by Mr. Beast sponsored by somebody. Let's see Andre. I worked in Dallas for three months, commuting between New York and Dallas every week. That was a culture shock for sure, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What a crazy, yeah. And Tom with the pink hairdo.
Speaker 1:Tom with the pink hairdo. What Tom gets? A weave unbelievable alaska trolling texas.
Speaker 2:Uh, the swedish chef always sounded more like a danish guy now that I live right between sc and dk.
Speaker 1:Uh, that's fun to know about alaska yeah, I remember I went to a restaurant in alaska and they had the thing they did have was like alaska they had pancakes. You get a pancake, you know alaska pancake, which is like a freaking, like frying pan.
Speaker 2:You could get texas-sized pancakes which are just the silver dollars, that's does but see okay, here's the real question does texas do this, or is it just alaska?
Speaker 1:because that's kind of embarrassing well, I don't know what texas would do, because it is smaller, so I don't know how texas like I feel like texas doesn't care texas has more people and, like I don't know, maybe I I feel like texas does like who's waving that flag?
Speaker 2:you know?
Speaker 1:I feel like it exists for a reason. I don't know why. Alaska just like dropped the gloves for no reason, I don't know greg, the couple say at the north pole, sponsored by polar bears.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, we saw a polar bear just recently. We went to the san diego zoo this week and that was way fun. We saw elephants, we saw penguins, we saw polar bears and, uh, they had a two and a half year old orangutan oh my god, it was really cute, who was just exactly like a two and a half year old human being. Uh, we saw all the things. It was way fun I asked chat what did you ask do?
Speaker 1:texas and alaska dislike each other. There is a friendly rivalry over which state is biggest and best in various categories. Texans often pride themselves on their state size, culture and history, while alaskans might counter with the fact that Alaska is physically the largest state and has unique natural features. The rivalry is more good fun rather than serious dislike. That's the vibe I got.
Speaker 2:Only in Alaska, though If you go to Texas, they're not talking about Alaska. I'll tell you that right now. I've been to Dallas.
Speaker 1:I've been to Austin. There's a lot happening in Alaska. It is dark for half the year. I've been to Dallas. I've been to Austin. There's a lot happening in Alaska. Okay, you've got like it is dark for half the year. I love it there, but it's dark for a long time, not a ton of people.
Speaker 2:You do what you I feel like they're the only ones talking.
Speaker 1:I would rather live in.
Speaker 2:Alaska, texas state slogan is everything is bigger in Texas.
Speaker 1:I mean that's true, so Alaska was like don't forget about us, we're up here.
Speaker 2:So you haven't had Texas barbecue.
Speaker 1:No, oh man, yeah, I haven't had the really. Southern barbecue. You're talking about Georgia last week. But Georgia they said they have like vegetarian barbecue.
Speaker 2:I feel like the world will catch up. Yeah, yeah, we'll have vegetarian barbecue, but damn, it was so good, I'm not gonna lie barbecue was like my favorite genre of food before being vegetarian so good.
Speaker 1:I love barbecue.
Speaker 2:It's very good oh man, that's the trolling. Texas center of the universe complex would be a little true. I didn't get that vibe. I felt like, well, I went. I also went to austin, which is basically mini california. At this point, right, um, they're just made a lot. They're just like super into, like live music and beer yeah, just vibing, you know?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, isn't that what most people are into at the end of the day?
Speaker 2:you guys need to do a texas barbecue tour of lulling and lockhart and stream that see yolo box.
Speaker 1:Sponsors us everything mobile I mean.
Speaker 2:So this is why we're leveling up the couple's table, because we're gonna, we're gonna do all we gotta. We gotta figure out the like the, the gear that you're gonna use and the footage that we're gonna record. That makes it so we can go on a trip okay and it could be sponsored.
Speaker 2:There we go. Uh, I got one of the best barbecue spots in south florida, just five minutes away from my house. Wow, that's dangerous. Yeah, that'd be a problem. Yeah, because we have Handel's Ice Cream five minutes away from our house. And guess what we're doing right after this?
Speaker 1:Oh, is that still happening? I wasn't going to bring it up, but I was.
Speaker 2:You have brought it up at least twice today. He's acting like it wasn't she incepted the idea yesterday, freaking 24 hours ago anyway, I discovered that handles has a flavor that is vanilla with oreo and cookie dough called odo, and that's what I'm getting very good, like homemade style ice cream, but not the like overly buttery, fatty homemade ice cream, or like your lips are like greasy after eating it.
Speaker 2:It's like crisp and like really good and they have a million flavors and it's all super good and they're like friendly and it's not really expensive oh yeah, it's good and uh tom also might start playing final fantasy 14 this weekend oh yeah, so it's gonna be fun weekend, but we're also leveling up the couple's table. Yeah, and and I think I'm gonna do a live stream i's going to be a fun weekend, but we're also leveling up the couples table.
Speaker 1:We are and I think I'm going to do a live stream. I still need to record a video.
Speaker 2:Tom wants to try to do a live stream.
Speaker 1:I also want to do a Patreon members update Also, like there's a lot to do.
Speaker 2:We have work.
Speaker 1:There's a hockey game tomorrow. Well, class in the morning. There's a lot happening.
Speaker 2:All right With that, said you're at the top of the hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so thanks for watching us on episode 149.
Speaker 2:Next week is episode 150. So make sure you are here. We are going to have a good time.
Speaker 1:All right. Thanks for joining us. Have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your week and a great weekend, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2:Bye you.