The Couple's Table
The Couple’s Table is a weekly livestream podcast hosted by Heather Ramirez and Tom Buck. Join us, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, as long as we both shall podcast and stuff!
The Couple's Table
Our New York Adventure and Podcasting Tips
What if upgrading your internet could transform your entire digital experience? On today's episode, we recount our journey from sluggish internet speeds and tangled Wi-Fi cables to the high-octane world of fiber internet, hitting speeds up to 2.36 gigabytes per second. We also share highlights from our recent trip to New York, including Tom's exhilarating experience participating in a live panel at the iconic B&H Photo Superstore.
Calling all gamers! Prepare for a nostalgic yet analytical look into our favorite RPGs like Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger. We dive into how different RPG classes align with various personality types, and even interact with our live audience to bring some real-time fun into the mix. Personal updates, such as the excitement (and challenges) of starting a podcast and dealing with motion sickness, add layers of relatability and engagement to our conversation.
If you're passionate about podcasting, this episode is a goldmine. We compare audio-only versus video podcasts and discuss the pros and cons of different microphone systems. Plus, discover how new travel gear like Kizik shoes and modern suitcases are revolutionizing our journeys. Practical tips on overcoming public speaking anxiety and the joy of live streaming round out this episode, offering invaluable insights for both aspiring and seasoned content creators.
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Hello and welcome. My name is Tom and I'm Heather. You're sitting at the couple's table.
Speaker 2:The couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel.
Speaker 1:Join us for better or worse for richer or poorer in sickness and in health. Streaming now on Fiverr.
Speaker 2:Woo, that was good, yeah, streaming now on Fiverr.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we got upgraded. We put more fiber in our diet yesterday.
Speaker 2:Can you tell? Can you tell fiber in?
Speaker 1:our diet yesterday, can you tell? Can you tell?
Speaker 2:so tom and I got fiber finally fiber internet, yeah, um, and let me tell you, my room is the furthest from the router for some reason this room doesn't even.
Speaker 2:This room just doesn't get service of anything yeah, it's just, I don't know it's in like a dark zone yeah so, uh, what we've been doing is we bought like a 500 foot wi-fi cable like 100 foot, I think and wired it all the way through the house, just across the floor and everything, and you know it's good, it's fine, but it's really annoying and that would plug in.
Speaker 1:But here here's the thing is, with our private previous internet connection, which was we paid extra to get the fastest one we could get here, which was supposed to be 500 up, 500 down, so 500 megabit, megabytes, megabits per second up down. That was the fastest we could get where we're at and even when plugged in, connected directly, the most we ever got up was 21,. Maybe Usually it was like 10 to 15. That is very low, that is incredibly low, and downloaded would be like maybe we'd get like 120 down.
Speaker 1:That's a good day on a good day and, honestly, being plugged or not didn't, almost, almost didn't seem to make a difference because it was like on wi-fi you would get, you know, 10 to 15 up versus 15 to 20, so it was like it really no difference. So we finally, like a year ago they like made fiber available where we're at got fiber yesterday, which was a way easier process than we thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought it was going to be really, I don't know, cumbersome. It wasn't at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just running a speed test before this on wired if we were wired it will. I don't need to look up because I remember it's 2.36 down and up. Gigabytes yeah, when I said it's 10 to 15, I meant megabyte, like as in you can count the megabits, megabytes on your fingers, and that's all of them.
Speaker 1:This is, this is 2,000, 2,300 up or down, um and over wi-fi it's a little different, especially here. It's further away, um, but it's still. Like what is it? 148, down8 down, 184 up, which is again the most. We've never seen, more than 21. I think up is the max and up is what you need when you're streaming, because you're uploading Content. Downloading is, like you know, everything you're consuming. Uploading is everything you're sharing. Streaming, uploading YouTube videos. It takes us sometimes hours to upload a single YouTube video, all that kind of stuff. And, yes, streaming too, not that, not that I like really have the desire to stream in 4k, but it's literally never been an option before, and now it's on the table. So now it's on the table, it's potentially an option it's crazy.
Speaker 2:yeah, look at that. Oh, hold on Live Trying to see if I can play this live. Look, we can do this live. We can stream live.
Speaker 1:Could you not do that in here before I would close this?
Speaker 2:because I didn't want to.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize.
Speaker 2:I didn't even want to mess.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize that. Yeah, oh cool.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So we're living that fiber life and you can tell us if it's good. Well, out of fiber life and you can tell us if it's good. Well, it's a difference for us, because we can use our internet anyway. Let's check in. Sean grogan is here. Hi, real power room is here, hello, hello. And k-ball comedy hi all, hello, everybody, welcome. Happy friday happy friday happy friday. So what's been up in our world, tom Tom?
Speaker 1:Well, we went to New York.
Speaker 2:We had a very fun weekend 47-hour trip, so very quick. Yes, yep.
Speaker 1:And it started on the reason we didn't have a couples table last Friday. Well, we left last Saturday, but then we ended up having guests and we had to get ready on Friday.
Speaker 2:And then, also technologically, the world ended on friday yeah, what a crazy thing so that was so I was, because I don't follow like the news anymore, since, like I don't, we don't watch the news. And then twitter was kind of like my source of the news, but then, like, I haven't been checking that, so I had no idea that there was this huge, uh technological shutdown which, like, had global impact yeah, well, I just woke up to an email from american airlines that was like hey, if your plans are flexible, you could change your flight.
Speaker 1:Now I just was thinking like what a weird email, like I'm. We booked these tickets on purpose for these times. Why would I change it at the last minute and then started seeing news stuff where it was like, oh, that's why, yeah, so it looked like every airport just shut off for a second there and then, yeah, everyone scrambled to get everything back on.
Speaker 2:But it was crazy, but we made it.
Speaker 1:We ended up with only like a one hour delay on the way there luckily it wasn't bad and then on sunday I got to be on a panel for creator roundtable podcasting 101 live at the bnh photo superstore yes, in midtown, new york city, which is awesome. Um, they had like such a cool setup. It was sort of in like this corner. It's like good morning america, where you have like the windows, everyone walking by by.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there are people watching and stuff that was very cool, and so it was me, Luria Petrucci from Livestreaming Pros and Bandrew Scott from Podcastage. Unfortunately, Bandrew couldn't make it in person because his flight did get cancelled.
Speaker 1:He got stuck. He was supposed to be there but he was virtual and it actually worked out really well. As bummed as I was not to see him because he was in his home setup like this and so everything we were talking about when it came to podcasting and stuff, he was like able to show us examples. Like we were talking about budget equipment, so he hooked up a $20 microphone. We were talking about, like you know, different cameras and built-in webcams and things and he was able to like switch to his you know webcam. Like he was able to real world example stuff that we were talking about in real time and it ended up, I think, almost being more effective. As much of a bummer as it was. And again, the whole panel was great. B&h was great. We got a tour, a secret special tour, VIP tour of the B&H warehouse.
Speaker 2:Yes, one of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the main store, warehouse, warehouse which is under the store in the basement yeah, basically runs under the whole like bnh. The store is like a city block basically and this is all under that and it's cool you see where they load up the little. They have little trolleys that run all around the top and everything the coolest.
Speaker 1:Thing yeah, we just got all the in and ins and outs of like how everything works, where everything's stocked. It was very cool because you could see how stuff was stocked in like order of popularity, so the more popular items are closer to like the send out things. And it's neat because you go down any aisle and be like I know that, I know that, I know that.
Speaker 2:It was so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so that was neat. And then the souvenir because because everyone was asking, like, did you buy anything at bnh? And this time no, especially because we packed so light there really wasn't room to buy anything. But here is my souvenir is a roll oops, sorry, I got so excited. It's a roll of bnh packing tape. So if you've ever got a bnh box and it, you cut through this tape to open it.
Speaker 1:Every time when I was teaching and I would order equipment and I would always specialize on my purchase orders Please order only from B&H. Because sometimes they would try to like oh well, this like really cheap third party thing is the same right, and they would get something from some other thing that was not the same. There's a reason I ordered what I ordered and so I'd always say only order from B&H. And every time like a shipment would come in and there'd be like a bunch of boxes in my classroom, I would immediately look at the tape to be like is it the B&H tape? It is okay, that means they got the right stuff and we got a whole roll a whole roll, but it's not adhesive on its own.
Speaker 1:You have to like wet it. So they have a little like almost like a stamp licker kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had a whole machine I got to see people like filling orders and stuff. It was so cool, it was like awesome. I wish we could have like recorded. Understandably, we weren't allowed to, but yeah, no cameras on that. Yeah, like we asked every question and everyone was super nice. It was like it was like, it was such a fun day.
Speaker 1:Cool thing too with bnh is like the more you talk to people who work there, you find people are there for like five, ten, twenty, twenty, five years like yeah, like the more you talk to people who work there, you find people are there for like five, 10, 20, 25 years, like, yeah, like the person who runs the warehouse has run it since the physical store in that location opened in 1997, I believe.
Speaker 2:Uh, really quick. Sean Grogan is asking when is Oliver Bentley coming back and is Tom interested in playing Final Fantasy 14?
Speaker 1:Both very good questions.
Speaker 2:Both very good questions. Both very good questions. I would say Oliver Bentley could potentially make a comeback.
Speaker 1:Now's a good time.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean because there's a new update. Oh yeah, it's the worst time because we have a lot of stuff to do. Yeah, we're busy.
Speaker 2:We're busy, but you know, we'll see how fall winter.
Speaker 1:It's not for lack of wanting to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I definitely See that's. The problem is, I want to, but when I cross that bridge it's like that's the only thing I'm going to be doing, and so I'm kind of I know, I see the door, I can open the door, but I'm gonna wait until it's. I have like a good amount of time to dedicate I would say winter.
Speaker 1:It's a nice cozy winter thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then by then there'll be some patches out, probably, sure, at least one patch. Are you interested in playing Final Fantasy IV? I seriously do not know what I would do if you ever played Final Fantasy IV. I think you would love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not against it. So since you played it in the first time, I have played multiple RPGs. Now, yes, you have, which is a thing I had never done before. So I sort of have a different understanding. I'm reading an RPG book like a literary. Rpg right now, so I went into it.
Speaker 2:Or a book series. He gets it now.
Speaker 1:So I totally get it.
Speaker 2:I've not done like an mmo where it's it's fun I, I know I haven't done, it's definitely like, uh, it could be anxiety inducing, but but you know, here's how I would do it. If you were ever to play is like live stream on my gaming channel and have all those fun people right, like that's who we would play with right, yeah, no crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean I the first RPG I played was Chrono Trigger on the Analog Pocket, because that's your favorite.
Speaker 2:That's really the first.
Speaker 1:RPG, because that was when I started at the end of last year.
Speaker 2:That was me. That was me. You're welcome everybody, yeah. And then I really liked that.
Speaker 1:So then I dove into Earthbound, then I did mother three, because there is no earth, but I did the sequel to that, the third one in the series, regardless of the names, and then we, um, we jumped into all the yakuza stuff. Yes, and that kind of leads us to now, which is a lot of games in a relatively short amount of time, when the thing I'm curious about.
Speaker 2:Sorry, we are deviating, but I'm curious, like for all my gamer friends out there, what class?
Speaker 1:you would be? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's definitely a personality thing. There has to be a quiz on this, many probably. What class are you? Yeah, are you a warrior at the front of the party leading the charge with damage? Are you a caster in the back? I don't know? Long, long spells, long range spells, or maybe you know you've got your bow and arrow I don't know higher agility, lower defense. Are you the healer?
Speaker 1:no, I don't want to be the healer. That's too stressful because you're just trying to like constantly heal everyone alive yeah, you look at the opposite bars.
Speaker 2:So you know how like we look at the enemy bars for their health bars. You look at, yeah, you're like no, that's a co-workers bars, your teammates bars yeah no, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it would be yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2:Anyway, uh, hey, bailey, what's up? Call me, comey in the house. Hi hi, mr camera junkie, hi everyone and tech troublemaker hey everyone, happy friday, tech troublemaker. Um, I tried to tune in. Well, I was at bnh when the bnh thing was happening, but I definitely saw you, um, in the comments under the live stream. So, uh, thanks for being super active. Uh, the bh roundtable was incredible. Absolutely loved it. Look at that. We had Bailey tuning in from the other side of the world.
Speaker 1:It was really, really awesome, and I also need to give credit to Andrew Swift, who was the moderator, because he was awesome. He was great, he did a good job of not only structuring it, planning it, taking in Q&As, incorporating all of us.
Speaker 2:I made sure to give him, because it could easily be a train wreck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I made sure to give him Because it could easily be a train wreck. Yeah, and B&H did. They replayed the live stream, but they re-uploaded it because there were some audio issues at the beginning and so they uploaded a new version with like some fixed audio which some people were like really upset, like, oh, this is you know, this doesn't say well for like the professional company to have audio issues and it's like tell me you've never live streamed without telling me you've never live streamed is kind of how I felt about that every person who was like so many people there were creators yeah professional, like creators and like thing that happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this was their first time uh doing this sort of event in there.
Speaker 1:They had a last minute zoom guest. That was. That was not a thing we did. There was audio for the in-studio audience, audio for the panelists, audio for the stream audio for remote audio. So if it sounded, if the levels were a little off at the beginning, especially because in person they were perfect, like it was completely fine, so it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 2:Well, it sounded. In my opinion, it sounded way better on the stream.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean at least from where I was sitting, I could everything was was fine. I wasn't sitting like with the audience um, the only thing that was hard was they. They had really like intense noise gates on the microphone. So if you kind of lean back just a little bit, it really like shut you down, and so I would get close and suddenly like it would be a little loud.
Speaker 2:That was like so much fun mcj says I've started my my podcast Reminder. Tom, you need to schedule your time.
Speaker 1:I know I need to schedule.
Speaker 2:Oh, with his podcast. Yeah, oh, I was like what do you mean?
Speaker 1:We're a little busy but yes, I know I need to.
Speaker 2:Oh, no coffee in the house. Nice to catch a live. Did I just talk? Did I say that Nice to catch the live? I that's what he said. No, I was like. So here's one thing that happened. I got this thing called.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I don't even know what it's called Disembarkation syndrome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I'm super sensitive to motion sickness and I have, I've had I don't know if it's vertigo, I think it's vertigo, but the people I know who had vertigo like also throw up, which I don't have. But basically I've been super dizzy ever since we got back and it's like almost a week and I'm still feeling like I still I feel like the sensation of being on a cruise ship and I know this is very common, common, like I've felt this after I've gone on a cruise you get, you know you're back on land, but it still kind of feels like that, but like I still feel that after our flights well, we learned you might have to get your ear crystals.
Speaker 2:I don't know so, um, if I'm a little loopy, that's why, uh, streaming live and also to a live audience is challenging. Yeah, I, I can't even like wrap my head around how to even do that and then plus you're like monitoring a live live stream chat and?
Speaker 1:everything. They were running all this stuff through a roadcaster, which is kind of cool um, I watched the original with a bad audio, no complaints. Yeah, a lot of people and the the bad audio is really just like a little funky for the first like 10 minutes of a lot of people and the the bad audio was really just like a little funky for the first like 10 minutes of a two-hour thing.
Speaker 2:So it's not bailey said uh like the audio is slightly off, still tolerable, they fixed it quickly, yeah yeah, um but I, I, I mean I told everyone at bnh this I thought that the choices of the panelists were great. I cause I thought that the three of you guys, um were clearly professionals, clearly have done you know, many shows, several, several years of episodes, but also so different. Yeah, I was kind of um like very different approaches, very different Um like you can tell that you've failed over and over and you've like learned from the mistakes and like you.
Speaker 2:You, it's not like uh, you know you took a course and you shortcutted your way.
Speaker 1:It's like no, you literally adapted as a technology right I was, uh, really pleased to discover how we could fill in each other's like yeah experience, preferences, insights, cause you know, it can be that thing when you have a panel, like someone asks a question and then it's, each person just gives their answer and especially sometimes with the answers are very similar, it can feel very repetitive.
Speaker 1:And it was nice that I felt like three of us were able to build on each other or fill in gaps or like add to, without being repetitive, unless someone hit a really good point. Then it was like let's really emphasize this point right here, and I thought I was really, you know, I don't know if they, I don't know why they chose, who they chose, but they did a good job because it was a nice combo trio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I was there obviously like to support Tom, but you know I've attended so many talks and workshops and seminars and webinars and stuff on content creation. That was definitely one of the best like panel ones Because it's like you said, it could just kind of feels like everyone's just kind of like talking shop, you know, but this was like no people were writing stuff down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that made me nervous, cause like you would talk and you would see people like take out their notes and do a thing, and it's hard because it's like you know everyone in the audience like you have I know we knew people in the gear and all that, but you were able. I felt like you guys did a good job of like you know it doesn't really matter what level you're at, but you know, based on where podcasting is now, here's some like relevant advice.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you did an awesome job, thank you, and thanks for going along and helping and documenting the whole thing and even that was an amazing experience.
Speaker 1:And then coming back um also yeah things are great right now, but I've also had a bit of a frustrating week. Um, yes, I've had a bit of a frustrating week and I just want to give you credit for being very helpful. I can see every I can see you going so far, above and beyond, out of your way, to try to like help if I say something is frustrating or whatever. You really try to remedy it I really I want you to know I notice it and I appreciate it and it makes a difference that's so freaking sweet.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you I have my head's been spinning since we got back.
Speaker 2:Even now I'm like huh um, and so I don't feel like I've been helpful at all oh, you have been so good, it just comes naturally oh man, let me tell you I so, when I'm not feeling good, these fingers get real scrolly on the instagrams and I have bought so much crap I can't even tell you. So I'll tell you what I bought, but let's catch up with the comments that's why I don't think eventually we'll get on topic to our title today well, to kick off this stream, go watch the bnh replay. Like it was really good, I thought. I thought like, if anyone wants to start a podcast in 2024, just watch this. Like it was really really good.
Speaker 1:Well, that was and that was. The thing too is like. A lot of people were like is it too late? And then there's a big discussion of audio versus video, and do you have to do video and all that? So those are. Those are things I'd like to touch on.
Speaker 2:Kev is here, hello, hello, kathy says.
Speaker 1:I watched it even succumb to the discounted podcast equipment in their follow-up email, bailey says. Admittedly I was surprised they didn't use wireless goes and labs which is what I put in my comment which would just make it look a bit cleaner. I think they went wired for reliability because, especially in New York, in B&H, with all this stuff, I think those 2.4 systems could have.
Speaker 2:There's too much stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Could have caused some issues. I don't know though it would have been a good like stress test for those systems.
Speaker 2:Oh, no coffee says agreed. Heather, watch and respect Gloria Bandrew and, of course, Tom. I've actually been watching a lot of Bandrew's video since I watched the replay and really enjoy that.
Speaker 1:He's great, he's just great.
Speaker 2:Mr Grammar Junkie says. I like that everyone got right to the questions and comments and didn't take half the time with intros.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the intros were great. It was very good. Just go Organizing it.
Speaker 2:I like that the sponsor integration with RØDE wasn't even forced and wasn't all that focused on RØDE equipment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Honestly, I think they planned it before and then roads. I'm not sure, but I'll be right back bye, okay.
Speaker 2:So anyway, let me tell you what I'm gonna grab. Oh, so here's the other souvenir we got, shout out to morty. Are you kidding? Bnh employee. Okay, first of all, a bnh employee gave this to us. We did not just take it from the freaking store. I don't know and would think that we did. This is the actual backdrop, um, but morty, who is our bnh contact slash friend, um thought it would be really cool if we had it.
Speaker 1:So thank you, um, and really just I don't know, morty, if you ever watch, but you were so gracious and awesome and just uh b&h should be very proud because yeah, kind of exemplify everything that I think they go for you are awesome, so thank you, so I think we're gonna potentially I don't know, I don't want to like ruin it, but potentially find a way to make the like curtains in our guest room.
Speaker 2:I told him I was like we should totally just turn these into curtains. But then I, but then I was like if you make it curtains you'd have to cut the creator round table part in half, which I think there might be a way to do like a one sided curtain.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay I also I wouldn't do this because I wouldn't want to you know, do but I thought it would be just funny in one of those things where it's like this video is not sponsored, but just have that in the back.
Speaker 2:Next time.
Speaker 1:I'm reviewing a road thing.
Speaker 2:That's funny. Rick on Mike says it's great to see you live again for a while there. I had PTSD from when you two stopped streaming for a while. Oh well, we're here, and we're glad you're here. Yeah, um, yeah. So anyway, I'm just. I just want to share a couple of things that I have bought on instagram and then today, this weekend, I'm not going to go on instagram because I keep buying things yeah that's a problem.
Speaker 2:But uh, the first thing I'm really excited about is this stuff called this stuff from a company called the ramen bay. We haven't made anything yet, but uh, I hope everyone here has had the pleasure of making like top ramen right, just like instant ramen noodles. They either come in like cup of noodle, like comes in a cup and you add hot water, or there's like the pack that you cook on the stove and you put in the uh soup based, you know seasoning, and then sometimes there's like dried, dehydrated vegetables in.
Speaker 2:It's like scallions yeah, like a few carrots and like spinach or something, I don't know, tofu or something like that. Well, this guy made like a whole pack. You could just buy a whole pack, so that when you make ramen you could just.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of veggies. It's not just that. It's like yeah, happy looking freeze dried veggies that you can scoop in there.
Speaker 2:This is not sponsored, but the ramen.
Speaker 1:It's a big bag too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look at this. This is isn't this cool? So here's what's in it. Well, I got uh. So here's what's in it. Well, I got the vegan one.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say no, I got you, don't you?
Speaker 2:veggie mix here's the one we got. Yeah, that's one that looks so. We got bok choy, roasted garlic, cabbage, tofu, carrot, shiitake, mushroom oh, bean curd is different from tofu broccoli, corn, green onion and white mushroom and it's a whole frigging bag. Look at this and then you just like drop this into your ramen Come on and it rehydrates space ramen. Like how could I not get that?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's also other stuff, but anyway, I had to bring that up when you were saying that I'm being so supportive. All I've been doing is just like babe, can I buy some ramen toppings? You're like okay, you bought your slip-on shoes, I bought my slip-on shoes. I've totally I got freaking mushroom coffee. Oh, my god, I, it's been a thing. Uh, kizik. Um, I feel like the next thing to buy would be the uh sit stand desk and then sign up for a squarespace subscription because I feel like I'm going through like the typical things.
Speaker 2:So, um, this morning I woke up and I was like tom, I'm feeling away because I I'm at the point where, like my feet hurt all the time. Um, and like I love trucks and I have just worn trucks like most of my adult life but I don't know if I, I don't know if I could do that anymore. Um, and he was like, are you going to buy like new balance or something like that?
Speaker 1:Which is nothing wrong with allals.
Speaker 2:All good things um so uh, there is a company called kizik and they make a shoe that you could just step into without having to use your hands.
Speaker 2:It's like slip-ons, but they don't really look like slip-ons like you just like step into them and like they, just like I don't know, they just like pop onto your foot so you don't really look like slip-ons like. You just like step into them and like they, just like I don't know, they just like pop onto your foot so you don't have to like touch your shoe at all. I'm trying to find like a video, yeah. So here, well, bam, pop, boom, uh, and they're super comfy and people have been walking in them, like you know, on trips, like all these things, um, and I was like you know what I need? A new everyday shoe? That is, comfort over style. I still have to sport my like super stylish, like chuck heels, converse heels and stuff, um, but I need my new everyday shoe and so I fell for the kizik ad, and if you're're on Instagram, you've probably seen this ad, but I will let you know how they are.
Speaker 1:And then I ordered this. I went back to the trip. We can go back. I went on an obsession and a rabbit hole I've been going down this week is I have had it with our luggage situation.
Speaker 2:Well, that was because at the airport, oh my God.
Speaker 1:He dropped the suitcase like five times and, yeah, I've had this duffel, which I really like because it's really easy to organize, but it's like way too, it's too heavy to carry through an airport and then it like doesn't sit on the suitcase and the the suitcase that we have is just like like a little carry-on thing.
Speaker 2:It's just like from target in 2011 both of us bought, like suitcase, cheap luggage yeah, you go exactly. You know you go to like ross or tj maxx and just like what is here. I'm going on a trip in two weeks. Grab this. Okay, go like I didn't compare.
Speaker 1:Aside from this, color or that color or whatever.
Speaker 2:But now, yeah, now there's like so many like very specific options.
Speaker 1:What is the thing? It was literally like an infomercial where I'm the black and white before thing of like carrying this dripping sweat, falling stuff is tipping over, and then I would see people just like, barely, barely putting their hand on the handle of their like four-wheel suitcase that they could just maneuver through everything, sipping a coffee, whatever, and I was like I'm over here, like charging the phone and everything I can't like.
Speaker 2:I wish the company had recorded you because it was like literal, perfect testimonial of like you could. I could hear the voiceover like are you tired?
Speaker 1:of using these. If you saw footage of it in a before thing, you'd be like god.
Speaker 2:They're exaggerating so much I was like running over people's feet with it.
Speaker 1:It hurts my shoulder.
Speaker 2:Like everything. At one point I thought he was just going to leave the luggage. He was so done.
Speaker 1:The one thing that didn't let me down, though, is my camera backpack.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which I'm going to do a follow-up long-term review on my Tenbo one. That thing kicks all the butts and is so great and is the perfect size.
Speaker 2:So apparently we have new luggage coming.
Speaker 1:So I've spent also this week basically every night as I'm going to bed, you're like what are you doing? I'm like luggage and I'm just comparing all the things, no-transcript, and you don't have to just scrunch everything together, calm, happy people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I saw them in the airport it's not even an exaggeration and then I was over there just stumbling and falling and cursing um. And so it was like, oh, I'll get the carry-on closet. But then it's like, well, that's a little expensive. What if I'm gonna spend that much money? What other options are there? So we ended up finding these and I got the. We each got a carry-on essential from july, which is actually not the carry-on closet, but we we're both very picky and sometimes we take like sometimes I need a tripod or whatever. So I don't know if, like the closet thing would have been practical for me.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah but I wanted something hard shell, something not black, something, um, with four wheels and a bit of organization built in, and that would still be carry-on, because the thing we did very right was not check any bags, um, and I want to keep being able to do that. So this could be us we could walk to each other like this and just be real happy.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's that. I'm like so excited for that, because we have a couple of small trips coming up and I cannot wait to like just not have to deal, because I realized, like the quality of life thing and you should see some suitcases Some suitcases have cup holders that flip out of the front so you can put your coffee there. People travel so much like for work. Yeah, every problem has been solved. Yeah, it's like what am I doing?
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, our little carry-on that I bought for like 40 bucks in 2011 is great, like it has gotten the job done um every cent you know, the problem with that one is it's a two-wheel one, and so you're also like yeah, you kick your heels and stuff, yeah yeah, and just your shoulders like pulling out because I'm piling my heavy freaking duffel on it, trying to drag it around anyway, anyway, uh, let's get things back on topic. We've got, uh, sammy here. We got to meet okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was like. Another cool part about the bnh thing is uh, we had lots of okay, so many thoughts. I will post this. But tom had a line for his meet and greet and I could not. I just was like this is the cutest thing ever. I had so many people come up to me and say, oh my, are you tom's wife?
Speaker 1:are you the girl from the videos?
Speaker 2:yeah that's very cool, I did have people who knew heather just great that was really nice, that's awesome. Um, I had people who have been on the youtube huddle up like uh, ricky from filmtopia showed up, which is so weird because we are both from socal from here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we live not terribly far apart, have never met, and then he shows up in new york because he was there for a different thing, by coincidence uh, sammy superstar, was there so great meeting with person, um, and it was just like oh, mike, mike mena, who uh yeah who, I didn't really get to talk to you yeah, who's sometimes in the couples table.
Speaker 2:It was cool because it's like it was a nice reminder of when you meet content creators in person, they are exactly the same. It really feels like are we seriously meeting in person for the first time.
Speaker 1:I've met a handful of people who aren't A very small, maybe not even a handful a finger full of people who aren't. I'm not going to go into that, although you probably know it's shocking when someone isn't, it's so unusual that it's like nobody expects it. It's confusing, and I've literally seen groups of people be confused.
Speaker 2:Oh my God Morty, we just did a whole thing If you rewind like eight minutes, okay, so we go Confusing.
Speaker 1:Pretty much everyone we've met who's an online creator. When you meet in person is the same. It just feels like you're watching one of their videos. It feels like you know them already and I think that's a really cool thing, and the few times that has not been the case.
Speaker 2:I think that's the the special thing.
Speaker 1:It is the special thing, yeah and I know you know it might depend on your niche or whatever, and maybe that's more prevalent in some niches than others, but I think by and large, it's hard to make enough videos to get to grow a channel, especially if you're an independent creator. Who's doing it, you know, by yourself. Essentially, it's hard to make the number of videos you need to grow the channel without being authentic, because if you're putting up a facade or a false front that's going to start showing through, you can't hide it forever, like the mask will slip.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's see, do, do, do, do. Bob bailey wishes that he could order gear from bnh, but between currency conversion and shipping just isn't money efficient for me in terms of both time and money yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1:I actually asked the warehouse person like you ship internationally? Because I didn't think they did, because I know a lot of people don't, but those reasons make sense that it ends up being a little more expensive.
Speaker 2:That is the funniest thing. Oh, bailey's first job was working at a shoe store, nice Tom would be great in an infomercial. It's crazy because I feel like when you like, if you ever were to give a testimony, it would. It would sound like a joke to me. It would sound like you're setting up a joke, but you were so freaking frustrated that like it was.
Speaker 1:Well, it was frustrating the whole time and then, when it started being the most, was like we made it out of the airport here, but now it's 120 degrees, 115 degrees and I'm now dropping everything on the hot asphalt and I'm just like. We just need to get to our car, which is now 180 degrees inside and everything's just like. I'm just like I can't.
Speaker 2:And I see all the people with their perfect little like let's see, sammy says, didn't I just see you guys the other day had a nice conversation with Ricky. We talked about the huddle for like 25 minutes. Oh, that makes me so happy. Hopefully you enjoy the footage I did for you, for it was a great thing.
Speaker 1:I brought my camera. Oh yeah, it's awesome. I cannot wait to include that. I eventually will make a video, hopefully soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. That kind of recaps this. I think the difference is creators versus creators who live stream.
Speaker 1:It's definitely hard to be a live streamer without. It's hard to put up a false front as someone who streams a lot because there's no editing. Yeah, there's no editing. Gil hey oh man.
Speaker 2:So well. So you said really nice things about me. I just want to tell you, the thing about you doing a workshop about podcasting is like I think you know. Obviously people know you for your youtube channel where it's as they should. There's a lot of podcast stuff, but like you started podcasting before even no one even knew what that word was I mean, I'm not that, that was a thing being on a panel with luria and bandrew.
Speaker 1:Luria started in 2003 and she's in the podcasting hall of fame, and bandrew started in 2006 or something with his current show very early yeah, 14, I think.
Speaker 1:Um, so they started creating podcasts. I mean, I had my little tape recorder as a kid. I was like making fake radio shows, like making a thing that's a conscious. This is a podcast and that's what I'm making. Um, I started like daily listening to podcasts in 2008, 2009, and then um making them in 2014, and in that time I've done a lot of different things, like producing them for other people, helping students with them and making my own.
Speaker 1:So it's sort of been a whole mix of a little bit of everything yeah but it has been fun going from like people were a little more aware of what a podcast was in 2014, but they're really. There was not like podcast specific gear. Yeah, we're really hodgepodging things together, which is why, when the original roadcaster came out, I lost my mind about it yeah because it's been a years long problem that was finally solved. It was infomercial before, infomercial after sorry about the sneeze it's okay, someone's must be talking about you, thinking about you, nope your face.
Speaker 2:Is that supposed to help me sneeze? Um uh, yeah, so anyway, um, I think the one of the one of the coolest things about you is that, like you can't I want to say that you can't hide your enthusiasm, but your enthusiasm is so fun to just like watch. You know, like when you're like, I think watching people talk about things that they're interested in is always going to be like.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's always going to spark someone's curiosity, like it doesn't matter what it is, yeah like, if people are super into a thing, at least for me, it's like I can you know, if you're super into it, I can watch you all day. But I think, like the thing with you is that not only are you super enthusiastic about it, but you make it. You make it so that people feel like they can do it and and like it's there's no, there's no.
Speaker 2:Like you kind of cut away the gap of like oh, that's for other people, like no, you can totally start a podcast, because I was a normal person just like you figuring it out, and now I'm in new york doing a freaking workshop about podcasting yeah, that's crazy yeah, and like even the people who talk to me about, because when they were in line for the meet and greet to meet tom, uh, they were stuck with me and a lot of people were like, oh my gosh, I have to tell you like I have been watching tom's videos for years and, like you know, people were telling me like at what point they started watching you, why they started watching you, how much of an impact your channel has made.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, someone used the word starstruck, which is crazy it's just it's like I don't know. It's really. It's cool that, like I met you at the point where you were like I don't know if I should bother right you know, like I don't know if I should.
Speaker 2:Is this worth it? Like, should I start? Should I start a podcast? Should I start a youtube channel? Should I put myself out there? Should I I start? Should I start a podcast? Should I start a youtube channel? Should I put myself out there? Should I make an effort to? Make stuff and to see you take a chance on yourself and get to this point. It's just such a cool, inspiring thing to make stuff for yourself.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously it's for other people, but it's not under the guise of another organization or a company or a job.
Speaker 2:It's like to make my stuff well, you have to make it for you, because no one is watching when you first start. It's just like you're doing it for the joy of of like creating you know, and like you, just you just kept going and you kept tinkering and you kept figuring it out, and then now you help people all over the world and it's just really cool, thank you.
Speaker 1:That was the thing, so we can not totally forget the title of this episode, but that was the thing that a lot of people asked was like is it too late? How do I start a podcast, all that kind of stuff. And that was a thing that I thought was kind of really important to remember, because people always talk about marketing like how do I market, how do I do this? And I'm like I don't know. I'm like the worst person in the world when it comes to marketing your podcast.
Speaker 2:It's so different.
Speaker 1:It's so different and obviously, if you're using video and then you tap into the world of youtube, you know like yeah we, which we made it, we talked about that a bit on the panel and bandrew, like I pointed out that, like even an existing podcast that's audio only can now be added to YouTube through an RSS feed, which is awesome, and then it can show up on YouTube. And then he sort of like refined the point by pointing out that that is true, but your audio only episode with just your album artwork, like, is probably not going to like blow up the trending page or anything but at least it can be found.
Speaker 1:It's, it's something, someone, can search for and it exists somewhere. But if you're taking that advantage of full on video, like not unlike we're doing right now, it doesn't have to be live Then you can flow into maybe a little more easily search recommendations. The algorithm can can help you out, which is a boost that podcasting has not really had ever before because all the other directories and things.
Speaker 1:I think that'll change, especially with AI but yeah, yeah, all the other directories and things have always been you kind of need to search for the podcast. You can browse a little bit, but it's like you probably aren't going to find the one that you want and it's a lot of word of mouth and that just takes time. But the thing that I thought was really important, and I think everyone on the panel emphasized, was when you're making something, like you said, you're making it for yourself, you're doing it, you would be doing it anyway, even if nobody's listening, because at the beginning nobody is listening especially, and you will slowly build your audience, especially. You will slowly build your audience, especially if you're doing audio only.
Speaker 1:You're slowly going to find people who find the show or recommend it, because that's one of the biggest ways that audio podcasts grow. It's just recommendations, word of mouth, and so, even though it might be a small group, it's a way more dedicated group than the one that is going to skim through a trending page or whatever Right, and so that's.
Speaker 2:They're in it, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you might be like, oh, we get 15 downloads an episode or something, but it's like if that's 15 people who are spending each full hour with you every week or whatever, yeah, the connection is that's a huge bit of dedication and it just kind of. You just sort of keep going and growing.
Speaker 2:And if you think about how people consume podcasts, it's like you're probably in their heads literally. If they're listening to you on airpods, yeah, or you're like you know doing something pretty I don't know personal with them. Like for me, I listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1:We're putting on my makeup yeah, I I'm, when I'm cleaning the house, vacuuming all that kind of stuff, and then it sticks with you, like there are certain things where it's like I can, I can like anytime I vacuum like a part of the house or mop part of the floor, like I think of a clip from an episode of like two years ago that I was listening to like yeah, and that that's a really unique medium Really quick.
Speaker 2:Sammy says. I think the live streaming. I think that live streaming made us feel that we have met each other before. Oh, 100, yeah, um, hold on it makes a little bit bigger.
Speaker 1:There we go, bam. Uh. Hopefully there will be more events like this to see you guys again. Well, I hope bnh does more of those. This was the first like installment of this series. Let's create a roundtable streaming series, so hopefully it went well enough that they'll want to do more. Yeah, and then for us, a big reason. People were asking like you're in New York, what are you going to do? And it was like literally nothing. We're doing this. And we walked around a little bit afterwards and then we had to wake up at 3am and go home, which is you know, let's go to Times Square really quick, yeah, oh, we have to tell the Bryant Park story, oh yeah when we, um, when you go that distance, it sort of feels like let's take all our time, let's do all stuff.
Speaker 1:But something that can make that difficult is if you have a trip like that and the trip itself is four or five days, and then all the prep leading up to it, all the recovery after it especially if you're a self-employed person where, like, you don't even know when your work days start or end it can something like that could carve out half a month of your calendar and like derail things for a kind of a long time, which then means that those trips become something you don't want to do, you can't do, you put off, and so the thing we were really trying to do we literally left at 12 30 on saturday and we were back at 11 30 on monday, like yeah it was very very quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I I told tom I was like we should really try to make this a work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, went into it like, this is a work trip, which is why, if people want to stay for however long after the thing, I don't have anywhere else to be I'm here for this yeah, you don't feel like, oh, I really want to go to that restaurant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to go to that thing. We got it's.
Speaker 1:That's not what it's, that's not what it's for, exactly and I know you, you got your your ear crystals kajiggered so that way bro, you've been knocked out, unfortunately, but yeah, but it hasn't felt like. I still made a video to like everything is still going um and it wasn't a disruptive thing, which meant that it's a more sustainable thing and hopefully you do more hopefully that opens it up to being able to do it more frequently.
Speaker 2:Sammy says I want to see Heather speak at an event.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but when Bandrew wasn't able to go and we didn't know they were going to be able to remote him in, I was like hey got like a third right here. No, I don't think she would have been on board.
Speaker 2:I told Todd you, well, bandrew too, I was gonna say you and Luria, I mean I think you guys obviously made an impact because you were there in person. But like I think if I were in Bandrew's, like I was remoting in, I wouldn't be as nervous. But like I get so nervous public speaking where I can overcome it eventually, but the anxiety leading up to it, the cotton mouth I have, like the just like it's like so much mentalness that I almost don't like care to.
Speaker 2:Because it's just so it's like but you, let me tell you about Tom. He was just like yeah, let's make some videos over here. All right, I'm going to sit right here, cool, go ahead. Like, yeah, let's make some videos over here, all right, I'm gonna sit right here, cool, go ahead, introduce yourself.
Speaker 1:Hi, I'm tom, and I was like, literally, I was like for some reason this is why you do this and I can't because I.
Speaker 2:I would rather say hi to everybody.
Speaker 1:You know I was like you know, because that is 11 years of teaching is what it is.
Speaker 2:I was like I literally made decision like, okay, yeah, if any. If you want to be fireside chat with tom, sure I'll do it, but like I can't be on a page the reason it works I feel like I get nervous. There are other times that's not me.
Speaker 1:Like I'm, mr. No, I'm nervous most of the time and like anxious for a lot of things. But that's a situation where it's like you're here for a reason, people are expecting to be here. The thing starts now go, and it's like, yes, like I. Anytime where I feel like i'm'm trying to turn a spotlight on me or take attention or do something, that's when I freak out. But when it's teaching, the bell rings, students are in the class, there's supposed to be a teacher at the front. That's you. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:If you told me, if you came up to me in front of just a random place and you're like boom, karaoke right now, dance floor right now, I'd be like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 1:No nerves whatsoever.
Speaker 2:This though right, let's go. No nerves whatsoever. This though instant there's a schedule, there's a yeah, there's a flyer, it's got your face on it.
Speaker 1:People are registered and stuff. Like I can't see that that's. That's like okay, cool, there's something I can't. There's a, there's a specific thing, there's like a task, there's a purpose, there's a, there's expectations. Yeah, which is very different. Like that, we can handle it luca.
Speaker 2:Hey, hello guys.
Speaker 1:Just started a new podcast to stay in trend, with the title well, I don't know where's staying in trend with the title, but congrats uh, filmtopia about to drive, but just want to say hi and say y'all are the best.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud and grateful to know you both and I can't wait to see each other again. Yes, it was so good seeing you.
Speaker 1:I was so surprised I saw you walk in I I know him I it was.
Speaker 2:you know how it is when worlds collide and you just have to be like what is this? So it was so crazy. And then it was like one after the other, because, like Sammy walked in, and then you walked in, and like Mike walked in, I was like, oh my God, this is so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people we've all talked to for years. Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we should meet up soon, kyle. Hi guys, I got the NTH 100 cable extender you suggested, tom. My wife just sits so far away from the Rodecaster Duo and we were podcasting she needed a longer cable.
Speaker 1:Cool, yeah, I was trying to give you all these cable recommendations. Kyle had a thing where he needed longer cable for his Rode headphones, oh, and I was trying to give all these recommendations for ones that will fit in the little locking thing. Then I was like, wait a minute, you can just get like a 3.5 millimeter extension cable. So use whatever headphone cable you have to plug it in there, and now it's 10 feet longer, or whatever. Which I have like five of, and I just didn't it didn't occur to me like recommend that.
Speaker 2:Gil said the workshop was like a sneak peek at how Tom was in the classroom as a teacher.
Speaker 1:I don't think I ever sat down teaching, though yeah.
Speaker 2:No, never.
Speaker 1:Burned holes in the rug? Yeah, never. That's why I started having foot problems after I stopped teaching, because I wasn't on my feet all day and my feet started getting weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they started to His feet, got Like frozen, yeah, anyway. So I think I frozen, yeah, anyway, uh. So I think I don't think you've mentioned this here, but you did mention this at the bnh creator roundtable, but you, you like they were about to end the session and you were like hold up, let me like yeah, I felt bad, but I had to but I thought that was like such a good thing because, just to be real, there were a lot of newbies in the audience, like there were a lot of newbies in the audience, like there were a lot of people who hadn't started their podcast yet.
Speaker 2:And I think, like to end on a, you had no idea where it could take you, but look at where you're at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the thing that that I pointed out, which was we had talked about before, the first time I ever went to New York city was in 2009. So 15 years ago, it's right after I graduated from college. I was like my trip, and, of course, part of that was make the pilgrimage to the B&H Superstore, which I'd always wanted to go to. I had my, I had just gotten the iPhone 3GS, like right before the trip.
Speaker 1:So I was like I have a phone with a camera I can like because I could take pictures without having to always take out my big camera. And I remember standing across the street from B&H and taking a picture of the store, because it was like it was the first time I saw it. I was like there it is, click and then going in the store and stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, that corner that I took the picture of was the corner where this round table was, it's like the corner showroom kind of thing. And it was crazy because every time I could just kind of look over my shoulder and see the corner over there and just be like 15 years ago I was standing there like just hoping to go inside the store. And now I mean, this is the second time B&H has like traveled us somewhere, because they took us to NAB as well and then they took us, they paid for our travel across the country to New York and then to put on an event where they're like like my face on you know emails going out and they're like promoting it and it's this whole thing and it's like I. It was just that moment of like I would have never thought I was you know standing 50 feet away and now I'm right here.
Speaker 1:I've been in that room before because it's been all kinds of different things, like at one point it was like where all the telescopes were. It was like not, not a live streaming space. It's like never did. I think I'd be here with like my wife and a whole bunch of people I met through the internet, while this is my full-time job, not just attending a thing, but like you?
Speaker 1:yeah, you were requested to be, it was crazy, and the only, the only reason that happened is because I just started making a podcast and making youtube channel, then that and I mean I think that the time is the first, that was 15 years ago. The channel start, you know, started making podcasts 10 years ago. Channel seven years ago, my own podcast five and a half years ago. Like it's not an overnight thing. Like you started a podcast, now you go to be on a panel in New.
Speaker 1:York. But there's nothing special about like there's nothing I did that someone else couldn't do. Right, exactly, and that's the cool thing. And I thought one of the coolest points on the panel was from Luria, who like but I've obviously watched Luria's stuff and known her virtually for a long time but I have like a whole different appreciation for her and her approach and have like a whole different appreciation for her and her approach and her like professionalism for everything after getting to spend so much time in person.
Speaker 1:but one of the great points she made was discipline versus motivation yeah and I really think that that's a key, because motivation she was like discipline doesn't need motivation. Discipline is I do this at this time and that's, and you just do it and that's the end of it. Motivation is the like, do I?
Speaker 1:feel like I want to, it can be fleeting yeah and and they're very much related because if you say I'm going to make a video every week or I'm going to do this podcast every week for you know, sometimes you might have motivation, sometimes you might not. Do you have the discipline to just keep doing it that can be a differentiating factor. The danger part there is the motivation disappears but you're too disciplined and now you're doing a thing that you really shouldn't be doing, but you're just too.
Speaker 1:Like ah, so you know you. It's like, if you, if discipline has to take over every once in a while, I think that's okay and that was really cool, was like, oh, that is okay.
Speaker 2:If discipline is running the show all the time, then I think that's a sign, maybe, yeah, a sign of you know, a sign of something.
Speaker 1:And that was what we talked about on the panel too. A lot was like you know, people want to start their show. They are starting their show. Some people were starting. I know one person mentioned that she had grown like a really successful show and then basically just gave up on it and started over from scratch just now, but for something that she was more excited about and was a little more like relevant. And sometimes you do kind of have to like you have to recognize that something has run its course and let it go, so that way you can then start on the next thing, which could be the actual thing.
Speaker 2:Right, even though it doesn't. That could be the thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know you're making it like, but this was my idea. This was my podcast idea that I had and then it disappears and suddenly it's like oh, here's the idea that I actually want to stick with, or that you know connects with people, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Let's see Greg.
Speaker 1:Hey.
Speaker 2:Super chat.
Speaker 1:uh, let's see greg, hey, super chat.
Speaker 2:A happy friday coffee for the royal couple of youtube. Wow, that's so nice royal cheers.
Speaker 1:We are, uh, I've got my coke got my water.
Speaker 2:I am uh well, it was a, it was a, it was just so much fun yeah, yeah, to answer the question.
Speaker 1:No, it is not too late to start a podcast. Yeah, I'm sure you knew that answer right there. It's different. It's different starting a podcast now than it was many years ago and, you know, I honestly think like the discussion of video versus audio is probably a topic that can be its own thing.
Speaker 2:Oh, definitely Very in-depth one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but there's room for both, because it's definitely very in-depth one, yeah, um, but there's room for both. And I guess, to sum that up, there's room for both. No, you don't have to do one or the other, because I did have several people in the meet and greet, because I kind of mentioned, like I kind of mentioned a little bit at the end, like you don't have to do video, even though, like I know, it makes sense and there's a lot of reasons too, but for some people, that's the thing, that's a bridge too far like, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, even if it's not like being on video that's stopping them, it's just the workflow and the time and the equipment it is a completely different level. Yeah, and and I had people say like you know that they they appreciated that I did say it is okay to do audio only. They're asking questions about that a lot of people. Almost it was like they needed permission to do audio only and I was like there's my favorite podcast, I listen to talking simpsons is audio only oh, I think moat I mean I think most of the podcasts that I listen to are audio only.
Speaker 2:I mean they're on youtube, because now youtube has the audio podcast but there's no like video. It's just the album cover.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so, um, I don't know. I just think that that was. That was a cool thing. It's one of those things. The same thing. When I was starting my channel, I was talking to you about it. I had made a couple videos, but I I like needed your permission to like lean into more of a bloggy style, which is what I wanted to do at the time, or even just be more of like a personality ish thing. I needed your permission forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, be in the front of the camera and I get that and that people needed permission to like. It is okay to do audio, only it doesn't mean that you're committing to that forever you like you can add video my own podcast. I've had video, no video like it's gone back and forth, yeah, and that's just how it is, and that's okay yeah, uh, is there any quality lost recording a podcast from the roadcaster to computer versus micro sd card internally?
Speaker 1:there shouldn't be. Um, it would depend on the project file settings that you have in your computer. Like you know, I don't know if you're using logic or audition or garage band or whatever and you create the file that you're recording into. If you set that to be like a really low bit rate or something, then there will be a difference. But if you set that at, like you know, a high quality setting, no, there shouldn't be any difference and I regularly I've done lots of videos where I switch back and forth between, like roadcast recordings, computer recordings, and you really can't tell a difference well, uh, since we're towards the top of the hour, I did want to tell you about today's sponsor.
Speaker 2:Oh, who is today's sponsor? Today's sponsor is tom what crazy that's right.
Speaker 1:Speaking of podcasting, this sounds like we had this plan, uh tom has two courses about podcasting not one, not two, but three. Really course, oh sorry courses.
Speaker 2:Two about podcasts two about hello babe we can do this, we're professionals.
Speaker 2:Well, you might need to use final cut to edit your video podcast, okay uh, so if you want to know about launching your own podcast, there's a podcaster playbook. And then, if you want to, if you have an idea but you want to develop it a little bit more before you think about, like, are you going to commit to making this into an entire show? You've got the podcaster idea book. Tom, would you like to expound a little bit more on the differences between these two?
Speaker 1:sure, playbook, isbook is production only, idea book is concept only. So playbook talks about how to make it but doesn't talk about your idea. So if you have no idea for your show, you're not going to have one. It helps you take your idea and then create the episode.
Speaker 1:how to record, set up a recording space, pick out your equipment, edit things together get it uploaded to a, to a podcasting hosting platform, distribute it to the world, and walks you through that process in a way that once you've done it, once now, you have a workflow so you can keep doing it for future episodes. And it does focus mostly on audio. There is sort of a supplemental section on video podcasting basics, but it's definitely not a video podcasting course. It's mainly audio production. Um, and then the idea book is basically the opposite of that. It's like I want to make a pod, which is where I was for a long time.
Speaker 1:It's like I want to make a podcast, but I don't know what yeah and that's a problem people have, and I realized that while I was teaching for many years, that was the problem I faced. A lot was here I'm going to assign a project and students would be like well, I don't know. And so helping people come up with ideas and not just an idea like I should do a podcast about, you know it's not the ideas.
Speaker 2:There's ideas everywhere, but it's like, how do you turn this into a sustainable show? And if you have, multiple ideas.
Speaker 1:You know how do you figure out which one is the one to stick with. Now doesn't mean you won't ever touch the other ideas, but which is the one to start with, which is the most practical, sustainable. So you can make not just one or two episodes, but many, many episodes so if you want to check that out, you can go to tom's website.
Speaker 2:Hi, my name is tomcom. Yeah, look at that we did our sponsorship segment look at me sponsoring things uh, greg says I watch video podcasts on my tv. Audio podcasts are kept for my car rides. They, they both have markets. Yep, buck Nasty that's me. In the house Just commit. Why are you scared? You got this.
Speaker 1:I don't know what we're talking about. I don't know what we're committing to.
Speaker 2:This is a good question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it must have been something we said a while ago, but check out this sweet Doc Pop. If you ever made soda, you could also call it Doc Pop, because some parts of the US they call soda pop.
Speaker 2:Oh soda, I was like surveys.
Speaker 1:No soda, Soda Doc Pop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that, I drink it.
Speaker 1:Everyone would have had the same names as the colors Green, af, soda.
Speaker 2:That's an energy drink. Well, is it time to clear the table? My hr said oh, if you're not ready to commit what were you not committed? I don't know.
Speaker 1:I remember you saying that, but I don't remember the context I'm confused.
Speaker 2:If you're not ready to commit, do a thing yeah, well, so here's the thing that I have um, what's called mal de this. This is what I have. This is freaking what I have right now, bro, which is why I can't like it's hard for me to think mal de dembarquement syndrome. You got barbecue syndrome, which is I. I think this is what I have, and it's like, if you fly or go on a cruise and then you get off, you still feel like you're flying or you're still on the cruise ship.
Speaker 1:You've just been woozy and dizzy for a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like it's still going, Like I'm like this, Like if you told me we were on a cruise ship, I would 1000% believe you. Yeah, that's crazy yeah yeah, it's like definitely not, but anyway, I I say that because I'm having trouble with recall oh, like trying to think of what we were talking about. Uh, you guys need sleep. This is very true. Drop the link, doc. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Hopefully, as a moderator, it shouldn't get blocked cane joining as it ends, we'll have to watch a replay. Today was a fun episode. Yeah, you know, two episodes ago I brought all these games and we never got around to it. So if we don't have a topic ever, that's what we're going to do. Okay, just wanted to tell you. Sure, all right, all right?
Speaker 1:Well, thanks for watching. Time to clear the table hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your week wait, we have a cure in hawaii for that.
Speaker 2:It's called the.
Speaker 1:Is this just like tequila, and it's time to go to bed hope you have a safe, healthy rest of your week and we will see you next time. Bye everyone.