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As we nestle in at the Couple's Table, expect to unravel the eclectic tapestry of our lives, intertwined with the pulsing heartbeat of tech and pop culture. Tom and I, Heather, are your guides through an odyssey of musings from the anticipated excitement of NAB plans, the ethics in content creation, to the quirky delights of tech conferences. We weave in personal anecdotes, like my belated encounter with "The Lion King", to paint a vivid picture of our journeys, inviting you to laugh and learn alongside us.

Pull up a chair and lend an ear as we engage with our live chat, bringing you into our circle to dissect the Earthworks ethos microphone and the surprising affordability of high-quality audio gear. We'll escort you behind the scenes of a creator's life, sharing the joy and jitters of preparing for industry events and the chuckle-worthy mix-ups of sharing a common name on the internet. With us, every conversation is an opportunity for insight and unexpected connections.

Embark on an adventure with us where the serendipity of unplanned experiences at conferences like NAB is as cherished as the moments spent quoting movie lines or reminiscing about the evolution of Las Vegas hotel themes. Whether you're a gear enthusiast, a creative professional, or just in for the warm camaraderie, our table is set for a feast of topics that promises to enrich, entertain, and maybe even inspire your next big idea. So tune in as we share the twists and turns of our creative lives and the vibrant community that shapes them.

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Speaker 1:

hello and welcome. My name is tom and I'm heather, and you're sitting at the couple's table couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel.

Speaker 2:

Join us for better or worse for richer or poorer in sickness and in health.

Speaker 1:

Every Friday, pacific Standard Time, 1 pm. Yay, checking out the audio real quick.

Speaker 2:

Checking out the audio real quick. Checking out the audio real quick. Hi Hi, hello. This is a test.

Speaker 1:

That must be really annoying. Sounds pretty good to me.

Speaker 2:

Okay, he says the audio, we are cleared. We can get a confirmation from the comment.

Speaker 1:

I think so. Yes, all righty.

Speaker 2:

All right, happy Friday.

Speaker 1:

Happy Friday.

Speaker 2:

All right, let's check in.

Speaker 3:

A little bit of a busy one here.

Speaker 2:

Hi Pete, hi again Heather and Tom. Cool stuff from Blackmagic. At NAB today.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know about this, so I was Googling it during the intro after I saw your comments and I didn't. I couldn't see much of what they did, but they were really jumping in early.

Speaker 2:

DJ where? Hi, tom and Heather and chat. I saw your comment on the huddle up and for some reason, when I loaded it up again, your channel name had changed. That was weird. Did you change your channel name? If you did, that's fine, but now it says DJ, we're here anyway. Audio hotline. What's up?

Speaker 1:

hey, hey, we were just talking.

Speaker 2:

Michael H. Hello All, flying from Orlando to NAB tomorrow afternoon, nice, oh wow, I don't know. I feel like we should couple table meet up, but I don't know what's happening. Yeah, I'm very hesitant to declare a thing right now.

Speaker 1:

Tom doesn't want to commit to absolutely anything, and then yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like we should take a couple stable photos. Oh no, that would be so cool, that would be wonderful.

Speaker 1:

But knowing where everyone is and all that kind of stuff, I don't know We'll figure it out, I want to get my bearings.

Speaker 2:

Hi everyone. Coach Constance is here, Happy friday and they haven't changed the channel, so I don't know what I saw.

Speaker 1:

That was so weird I joined the huddle up this week yes, you did. We're very excited to have you yeah, so my goal was to film enough stuff for at least two videos at nab this weekend it does and try to have at least one of them edited it's a cyber gizmo that's not necessarily a channel name.

Speaker 2:

Oh it's your at yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, hey, dave den happy friday sup cool oh, I was talking to audio hotline, because he and doc are going to be at the same super secret event for cool people tomorrow and and they don't know each other and what. There's a super secret cool event for cool people tomorrow that Doc will be at.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And Audio Hotline is going to be there too.

Speaker 2:

Great.

Speaker 1:

But they don't know each other, so I was trying to tell him who Doc is and that Doc is cool.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I was like what are you? I was just saying are you trying to say no, I'm just saying you should hang out, we're gonna be at this event. Oh, got it okay. Okay, see, tom speaks in sarcasm. So a lot of people, including myself, is like is this a joke? Is this like, are you being coy or is this? Are you? I don't know, sometimes because you're like there is a super secret event there is.

Speaker 1:

I can't. I can't talk about what it is. I'm not gonna be there, but it is super secret and it's going to be cool and the people who are there are cool yeah, michael h is still planning.

Speaker 2:

It's the whole convention center. I haven't looked at anything, I just I feel like we should just go like this yeah, yeah, basically. Yeah, just take the map and just do-do-do-do-do. You know, Dog hit me Well. So what's up in your world? I feel like it's been a week, it's been a busy one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, it's a lot of stuff. It's a good thing. It's all good things. Yeah, all good stuff.

Speaker 2:

It's a lot of stuff. It's a good thing, it's all good things yeah.

Speaker 1:

All good stuff. It's been busy. I recorded a Patreon channel supporter update this morning, but that won't go out till next week. I recorded and edited two videos for my channel this week, yeah. Did a client project this week. Oh my gosh, Tom's been working it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we put together a whole hockey team. That's been a whole thing and people need like payments and jersey orders and that's been fun. And then prepping for nab, yeah, and trying to get all the gear ready. I wanted to film the videos at the early part of the week so I could start piecing together equipment, pack everything up, which I'm glad, because when I was doing my patreon video or my channel supporter video I was going through I realized there was a very crucial piece of equipment that I had put back in my drawer and not put in my camera bag.

Speaker 3:

But I was going through everything.

Speaker 1:

I was like wait, where is it? And it was in there, so that actually totally saved me by doing that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Awesome Level up with Mike Newman. Happy Friday. I hope to go to NAB next year.

Speaker 1:

I hope it's cool enough that we want to go back next year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Guilds in the house. Hey everyone. Is that an Earthworks ethos on Tom today?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's on me, it is, I was. Oh, so actually this is sort of funny. I was.

Speaker 2:

What were you doing?

Speaker 1:

I really like Earthworks, microphones and I really like the people at Earthworks. Great we doing I really like earthworks, microphones and I really like the people at earthworks great they're just from like the east coast they're super cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're super nerds about microphones and there's one guy who works at earthworks his name is mike and he talks about microphones and I think that's hilarious and it's really funny because we've known each other for maybe like two years now and every time I see an earthworks mic that's prominently featured somewhere in a cool thing, I sort of like send him the link. I'm like, hey, check out this. You know travis barker's doing a studio tour. Look at his drum mics.

Speaker 1:

Like yeah the earthworks mics, um. But now it's to the point where everything he sends me if I see something I know in my inbox, I'm just gonna get a like hey, check this out, look at like minute six or whatever. And I love that enthusiasm and that excitement. And I sent him a thing a while ago and I happened to mention like oh, I'm trying to do this thing with a, you know, with the ethos, and he just like immediately came back with like oh, you should be aware like the capsule needs this and the power. So, like I, I really love the the genuine like enthusiasm and nerdery that they have for their stuff.

Speaker 1:

It's awesome, yeah, and the nerdery yeah, and I thought that that was really cool. And there I saw mike said oh, earthworks ethos. This is probably the least fatiguing mic on my voice that I own, even though I switch all the time. I think if I'm doing something that's like an hour plus long, even though I do this every week, this is the one that, like is the easiest to listen to without having to do anything. I don't have to eq it, because when we're in here, none of my mics are ever eq'd, they're just plugged in and game right sure so it needs to be a mic that sounds.

Speaker 1:

That's why I like never use the sm7b in here, because I don't really like the way it sounds without eq, but I love the way it sounds with it, so anyway, there you go.

Speaker 2:

Can you scoot up a little bit?

Speaker 1:

I feel like there it is and I like this road stand I can't tell if my vision is fading or we are not in focus. I can try to focus.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, we're good. I think we're in focus now.

Speaker 1:

I think I should try to focus. You want to focus Because we moved everything.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know what I did, but I hit the monitor. Oh, there you go, and then the whole thing got messed up. Bam hi ben, don't hit the coke, babe. Okay, let me tell you what happened, right? So, oh see look at that, yeah way better yeah oh great fo show see, I can't tell because I have. You know, I wear glasses and contacts and so I'm like you have better vision than me.

Speaker 1:

It's not good oh look, mike knows Mike about the mics. Oh great, mike and Amanda did a promo. I want an SR-117, so bad, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

Freddie always is here. Hello everyone. Always fun when I get to tune in. It's always fun when you're here. Thanks for being here, aaron. Short music.

Speaker 1:

I got the prompter.

Speaker 2:

I really like it. You want to finish the comment, babe?

Speaker 1:

When I streamed Monday, I had reduced FR frame rate and I had my Ecamm preview window. Oh wait, oh, and my Ecamm preview window and the prompter display. I won't use it that way again, but did you have any frame rate?

Speaker 2:

I use mine as a monitor. It's a third. I have two monitors and then this is the third. I don't know if that matters, but I don't use the prompter software Because I just I do use the prompter. It's the third monitor, so I just put the. You know Ecamm. I just put the Ecamm window over there, but you're doing that?

Speaker 1:

Oh oh, you're not using. I use both and mine has been fine. I've never used it. I don't because I don't want to learn a new thing. I do this when I want to monitor, I just drag the ecam window to the prompter, but when I'm doing like a outline or a script and I put the prompter software on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I use google docs and scroll it. I don't know, it's probably really good. I should probably give it a chance, but do you have any frame rate issues?

Speaker 1:

yes, not.

Speaker 2:

Not with the prompter.

Speaker 1:

But just in general, I'm having trouble getting my Ecamm recordings to look good. Prompter irrelevant, that's a separate issue.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Ernesto MyFaveTech. Happy Friday, Good to see you, and HomestickMac is on the Earthworks SR314. 314.

Speaker 1:

I know of that one, but I don't know it. I've only used the ethos and the icon so I can't speak to that one.

Speaker 2:

Wow, uh, so what else is it?

Speaker 1:

I wanted speaking of microphones and companies that are doing things well. I actually wanted to highlight something I thought was really cool okay, a comment on my channel.

Speaker 2:

Oh, very nice, look at this from a microphone company.

Speaker 1:

So you and I were talking we've sort of been talking throughout the week about, like, companies doing things well and companies not doing things well.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and lots of talk about that.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes, when you make a product review video, even if it's not in any association with the company, they will find the video and they will come in and like, leave comments on it or whatever, and sometimes it's really cool, like Elgato has provided support in some of my videos about like the prompter or the wave arm or whatever. That's cool, like I don't have to do it. People are getting the info directly from the horse's mouth, so that's good. Sometimes, though, companies will come in and essentially start not advertising, but if somebody replies, they're like hey, I had this thing and it gave me trouble with this and I couldn't use it, or I didn't like it. The company will like like. Sometimes, almost, it feels like they just paste like their website text to it and it's like yeah, but you might have had a problem, but that microphone is ideal for streaming and youtube and what it's like. That's not what are you doing, um? Or they'll just be like reach out to our support team, which is cool, but do you want to put the screenshot over there?

Speaker 1:

I don't have a screenshot because it's too long I have to scroll it. I couldn't do the screenshot. So a couple of weeks ago maybe, like a month ago, I did a review on the fine am8, then a couple for fine mic videos in the past and their microphones. I like them because they're super affordable and they're pretty decent quality, like if you, if you want to, if you're not jumping up into the shore road world but you want to spend, like, as little money as possible on a decent microphone, they're the way to go. Um, if you look down, you find matt ruff's comment. Matt who actually, you know, is a regular couples table viewer and longtime audio career pro he left the car.

Speaker 1:

That's that yeah he, he gave us the money to get this we don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't use it anymore because I felt like it was making me oh, here, here's um, I don't know how to share this, but, okay, sweet.

Speaker 1:

So here's matt's comment. Um, he said the trouble with cheap mics is the build quality and consistency. If they're selling it for, say, 55, the cost of manufacturing is probably below 20 and sorry. If they're selling it for, say, $55, the cost of manufacturing is probably below 20 and sorry. You can't get quality components for that price.

Speaker 1:

I would never recommend a mic below the PodMic $100. If you can't afford $100, just use your phone. So Matt is right for the most part. That $100 price point with microphones is magic. That's where, like, everything unlocks and you can get things that will literally last a lifetime, like the shore sm58 or a pod mic or whatever.

Speaker 1:

But the thing that I I know is when someone's just starting out, you don't have to convince me to spend a hundred dollars a microphone, I don't have to spend you this is a $250 microphone. When someone's just starting out they've never spent, they spent $0 ever on a mic and they're not an audio video nerd and you tell them to spend 100 bucks. Sometimes they're like that's a lot of money. Yeah, that's a whole lot of money and they need something cheaper. But some there's cheap options out there that are just cheap and terrible. Um for fine, especially for like 30 40 bucks.

Speaker 1:

They have tons of usb mics that are great, but the am8 this video is, it's like this. It's an xlr usb combo mic for 45 and it does some really cool things and it sounds really good. Um, and what matt's saying here is build quality and consistency. I talked about the build quality being bad in the video because the build quality it's very plasticky. As soon as you touch it you hear every, every sound on the microphone, like it's not good but the audio quality is great. And then he talks about consistency. So like if you buy 10 shore mv7s, they're all gonna function and sound the same. Yeah, if you buy 10 newer nW800s the gold microphone that I have- Hit or miss.

Speaker 1:

Hit or miss. The Fafine thing, though, is different, and they came in and left a reply here, which I thought was awesome. It's one of the best replies I've seen from a company. They said not the case actually. At least we guarantee the consistency and warranty of our products. So they're prioritizing the consistency and warranty of our products. So they're prioritizing the consistency.

Speaker 1:

If you buy multiple AM8s, they will all sound the same. I have one. Audio Hotline has two. I've known, I think, in my little sphere I know people who have like six of them total. All of them work the same and sound the same, so pretty consistent.

Speaker 1:

As for the AM8 and some other RGB mics, we may skimp on the build quality so that we have more to spend on the audio quality. Then, for the price and for what really matters in terms of entry level audio gear, it's well worthy. Actually, we have quite a few models that at least achieve one or two things that matter the build, the function and the sound. If the material of the AM8 isn't something you want, we have the all metal $30 K669B that has decent audio quality, although fewer features to fiddle with. You're right on some points.

Speaker 1:

A budget product is almost impossible to be good everywhere, but it's not necessary to go above the threshold that is considered to be proper to get started with a mic, since the internal mic of a smartphone is not really that good to fit in any audio applications like conferencing, the internal definitely works, but for a quick interview not really. So there's a little bit of language barrier thing happening there. But I kind of like this because I think a lot of companies would put out their $45 XLR USB comic but this is the ultimate streaming mic and it's not. It can't be. I like it. They just said we skimp on build quality so they spend on audio quality, because ultimately it's like that's what's what you know you want a mic, that sounds really good they know where they're at.

Speaker 1:

They know where they're at. They emphasize entry-level stuff here. They even say like, hey, if you want good build quality and good audio quality, we have this one, but it's not going to have the same features. It's that thing of like here's three options, choose two. And they just say I love this because it's just admitting like, yeah, it's a 45 microphone, it's not going to be the best microphone you've ever used, but it's really good at these things, it's really good for entry level and that's what we focus on and we're aware of it and they're not trying to say otherwise and I love that. Yeah, I thought that was like, and this is also clearly not a copy and pasted thing. This is a response to this one specific comment yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's. I just wanted to highlight that because, even though it's literally talking about an area like a deficiency of the product, it made me like the company more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think that your channel does that really well, where you're so fair. So even when you you can point out something like, oh yeah, the build quality isn't that good, and the company can agree with you.

Speaker 3:

You know cause you're, you're just so fair.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think, like I think that's the difference, because other channels it's like well, you can't say anything bad because you're, you know you're sponsored. I think that's the advantage of like well, it's not sponsored. But if you want to buy it, here's your, here's the link yeah, I mean I just bought that one on amazon.

Speaker 1:

But even I did a video this week.

Speaker 1:

One of the two I made was how to make the pod mic sound its best, which over the years I've bought pod mics and rode has sent me pod mics, so it's not sponsored, but they've given me things and in the video I'm very clear like I don't like the way the pod mic sounds straight out of the box, but I really like how it sounds when you can eq it and stuff. So let's figure out how to do that. But it's like I'm being very honest that like, if you just take the pod mic, plug it in, do not like the way that it's yeah. So anyway, I know that we're not, we don't need to get into like mic land over here, but I just I wanted to highlight that that, to me, was a company and I've seen they have specifically done things like this over the years on a few different videos, where it's not overtaking something. They're not trying to like rewrite the video, they're just. You know, I talked about their product and they're adding more to the conversation as the people who made it exactly.

Speaker 2:

That's great I think it's awesome yeah so anyway love it. Thanks for showing that, tom, let's see. Okay. Audio Hotline says the name I'm most jealous in the audio world Mike DelGaudio. Mike and audio in the name Too perfect. Pete says the MKH 8030 figure eight condenser microphone just announced by Sennheiser, 1,500 bucks. Hopefully you get a demo.

Speaker 1:

Definitely going to a Sennheiser booth.

Speaker 3:

Andre hopefully you get a demo.

Speaker 2:

Definitely going by. Sennheiser booth andre, whoa, almost hi everyone. If your last name newman was neumann, then it'd be yeah vro nerd is here, hello welcome.

Speaker 1:

Uh, that was fine for fine yeah, the reason I found for fine was like a couple years ago I was trying to find cheapest usb mic and you and it. Just I looked up like not the ones that are clearly garbage, but like what's the cheapest one that's actually decent, that somebody would buy? Yeah, and at the time because you know the amazon prices change all the time at the time it was for fine. As soon as I saw that I was like yes because that name just lends itself to like a thousand jokes immediately.

Speaker 1:

I don't even care if the mic's good or bad, like this video is going to write itself.

Speaker 2:

Volt. The robot is in the house. Hello hello Fofine is really upfront and honest. They don't oversell their capabilities. Love that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's how it like. You just know what it is.

Speaker 2:

Exactly it, Exactly it's. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's like you're not trying to make a Toyota Corolla sound like a Ferrari. It's a Corolla, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay cool.

Speaker 2:

Because the thing is there's an audience for that, Like there are people who want the like entry level thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just want good enough and affordable.

Speaker 2:

So you're not trying to be something that you're not.

Speaker 1:

Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2:

Sounds like an awesome company with proper people running it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go what's been up with you?

Speaker 2:

that was my little, like one of my stories um, I got wildly distracted and I'm debating whether to bring this up while you were talking okay I feel. I feel I don't know, I kind of don't want to bring it up, but I'm going to bring it up, okay so.

Speaker 1:

Uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

There is a thumbnail here in the right.

Speaker 1:

here it's a little different from some of my thumbnails Right here yeah, and this is Vanessa Lau.

Speaker 2:

She's great. I, as a woman, I feel like this is a strategically framed photo.

Speaker 1:

You know what you did.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and it literally says don't fall for this trap right on top of it. Isn't that ironic, like? Isn't that like? Like it's like here don't fall into this trap. You're you? Obviously I don't know, I don't know, I just I wouldn't do it right? We talked about this last week. I'm not hating, I'm not judging, I just wouldn't do it. It's not what I would do. She came out with a video, probably like two months ago, because she, she- quit everything for over a year, yeah and her story is amazing.

Speaker 2:

I definitely recommend going to go watch that video, but just this thumbnail is so like come on, you can? You can give me an example of something similar like that? That's literally like you're you're doing the thing, but you're doing the. You're doing a trap, though you see where I'm coming. I see where you're coming from.

Speaker 1:

I think I think the thing that that makes my brain, I think the thing that that sits weird with me in this case is because the video where she shares her whole thing with quitting social media, which was fantastic, and she explains why, and she's sort of like now ready to step back in with all these lessons learned. I know there's a game you have to play, you know with youtube and stuff, but like is there though well, yeah, as someone who's done it. I don't know. Is there a?

Speaker 2:

game I don't know actually I don't, I honestly don't, I honestly don't think that there's a game I don't have a lot of videos.

Speaker 1:

There's, like you know, k views in a month, but right.

Speaker 2:

So who are we to talk?

Speaker 1:

I don't know but, um, I, I just feel like it's. Here's all the lessons I learned. Anyway, back to how I was doing things before and I, like you know, I feel it's so.

Speaker 2:

It's it. I don't know how to explain. I'm trying to come up with like an analogy that's similar, Like I don't know, like don't read this billboard.

Speaker 1:

on a billboard, it's like that you know steal this album or steal this book.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I don't know. Anyway, I didn't want to bring it up.

Speaker 1:

It's a thing of like don't think about an elephant, and then the only thing someone can think about is the elephant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, don't think about an elephant. And then the only thing someone can think about is the elephant. Yeah, yeah, we're all thinking about the elephant and I just I don't know. I'm sure the thing is. The thing with vanessa lowe is that she is fantastic. She's very knowledgeable at what she does. So I guarantee you, if you watch that video, you're gonna get 29 minutes and 31 seconds of banger content, but just the thumbnail thoughts, like you know what you did, yeah yeah, it's I know you could.

Speaker 2:

It's weird if you say something because yeah yeah, don't, but anyway well, I can't.

Speaker 1:

What I can say is on my channel, in my own little world. A thing that I've been trying to do lately is like really focus on. I know there's youtube, thumbnail design, all the best practices, but I really don't know what works and doesn't work, and so I've just been trying to do lately is like really focus on. I know there's YouTube, thumbnail design, all the best practices, but I really don't know what works and doesn't work, and so I've just been trying to like sort of be more clear. Like this video is about a microphone. Here's the microphone. This video is about a camera. Here's the camera. Like you know, a very nice looking photo, but it's nothing crazy, nothing. I haven't even been doing as many like neon outlines, which I like, but I was almost sometimes it was almost like getting to a point where it's like distracting from the thing and it's like just look at, here's the thing that the video is about.

Speaker 2:

If you're interested in that, right, yeah, you'll click the video, or at least you'll watch it like make it interesting enough that they look at the title and then they can get an idea. The title tells you don't have to make it this crazy thing, right? Uh, shotgun studio for fine has sent me a ton of stuff to try out. I still prefer my road or shore mics for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean they're for sure they uh, be your own nerd, tom and heather, what do you have planned to any specific vendors you are interested in seeing? So here's my plan. My plan is to support tom because I think he is uh, I mean, this is his conference, it's, it's audio video. You know, this is you, this is broadcasting, like even even besides audio video, this is his background is broadcasting. So, um, I'm, I'm there to just, I'm here to support you. Take it all all in, share what's happening. I also feel like a lot of people are going to know you at this one. So I'm really excited to like document this. I'm very excited. Other than that, I'm not trying to see anyone in particular, I just want to take it all in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, these are the kind of things I guess this is why I'm so hesitant to like firmly, because I've gotten really cool messages from people who are like, hey, let's meet up at this time, let's meet, but it's like that could easily be. The whole weekend is just saying yes to all the different things I mean, if you did, we'd have it all be yeah it would all be fun is at things like this, also getting to and fro it takes forever.

Speaker 1:

There's also the serendipity. There's so much that you can't like. Okay, here's a good example. Here's a very good example. Last summer, heather and I went to a filming of les mills body combat. Body combat is a training. It's it's like a pull this up she's probably a future body combat instructor, so how would you describe?

Speaker 2:

it. It's a mixed martial arts group fitness workout. You can do it at home with the app and you know there's like recording.

Speaker 1:

All you need is a towel, a bottle of water and a positive attitude.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the way that we were introduced is that it's a group fitness at our local gym, group fitness class at our local gym, and it's probably at your local gym too. It's like zumba. It's like, uh, you know, uh, spin class, um, zumba is the same thing. Like the gym will subscribe to zumba so they can teach the zumba class there. Uh, so that's what body combat is and it's, it's a lot of it's. You know, karate, muay thai, boxing ring craft, it's a bunch of stuff. It's awesome music.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they do what like four releases a year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And every release they do a big live filming thing where it's like you know instructors up on stage, loud music, huge crowd. They do it all around the world. They're based in Australia and they do.

Speaker 2:

It's like this yeah, this is me and Tom. Boom this yeah, this is me. And tom boom, let's get it. And they do these big like that. Oh, that was literally it. Oh, is that the one we were?

Speaker 1:

at. I think that was the one we were at. Okay, actually it looks if it's not, it's very similar, whatever that big group thing is yeah, so we went to this they did one in los angeles last summer, so we went and we're in the crowd while they were filming. It's fantastic yeah we have been taking these classes for five plus years at this point 2019.

Speaker 2:

Especially you yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes I come and go but Heather's like in it and like literally looking into being an instructor and stuff. And during the pandemic the reason we found about the stuff they do, the online releases, is they have a streaming thing so you can just do it at home. And during the pandemic, when all the gyms were closed, that kind of kept us sane and so a lot of the instructors, like specifically those two, Dan and Rach, were kind of like our like personal trainer friends, Like we hung out with them every day For you know the pandemic and they were.

Speaker 1:

You know they were on stage instructing with one. We went to After the thing was done. They were leaving and all the like. I don't know how many people were there. Thousands, all the thousands of people like rushing over to, like say hi to them.

Speaker 2:

You couldn't you couldn't do anything.

Speaker 1:

Pictures and like yeah we were feeling a little weird. We were like tired. It was kind of a long day and we were sort of like we had booked a hotel right there to stay and go home in the morning. But we're kind of like we could just go home and like pick up the dogs from boarding and just like sleep in our own beds it's just such a chaotic crazy the idea of just being home sounded nice, even though it was gonna be exhausting.

Speaker 1:

So we called the hotel. We took all this time. After things done, we called the hotel.

Speaker 2:

They were like, yeah, you can't cancel I was literally in the parking lot, like the parking structure, trying to cancel our hotel.

Speaker 1:

So we just drive back home and they said, no, I can't get a refund. So we're like, okay, whatever, can't get a refund, let's just we're at we're already la live.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's restaurants, there's bars. It's smacked up in the middle of downtown la. It's right across stable center, it's like I don't know. So it's like okay, well, we had planned to stay, so let's just go ahead and stay.

Speaker 1:

We walked into the hotel, we checked in, and then we saw the two main instructors, dan and rach, walking around to the elevator, just still in the same clothes they had been on stage with. We were still in our workout clothes, too, and I have never seen heather freeze up. This is when we say like don't get starstruck for, like brad pitt or anything but dan and rach from less than you know, I just couldn't, I could not.

Speaker 2:

And then tom was like I I was like grabbing. I was like I was like we need to go say hi like they're from australia pulling my hand and I was like I can't she literally like dug in and froze like I'm not going and he's like pulling me and I could feel my body like about to trip, like he was. You were trying to yank me and I was like.

Speaker 1:

I was like you're gonna regret it I was like, okay, fine, and so we walked around the corner to where the elevators were and things were opening and they were walking and I was like we'll just get the next elevator. And then dan held it and stuck his head on, was like, do you guys need to come in? And we're like okay, and so, and so we went in and it was literally like I was.

Speaker 2:

I. I can't even tell you how I felt in that elevator.

Speaker 1:

It was the two of them, like two of their assistants and the two of us, and we were on a pretty high floor and so the elevator went up. Like one of the assistants got off, the elevator went up, one of the assistants got off, so it was just Dan and Rach. It went up and then Rach, who, like Heather, didn't get to say hi to because she was just too like I can't I couldn't.

Speaker 1:

She got off but we were losing our mind. So just the two of us and dan in the elevator and we got to our floor and he was on the floor above us. We got to our floor and then heather like sat there and she was like are we really in the elevator with dan and he was like, am I really in the elevator with you guys? And we asked we're like, okay, can we take a photo like this is too strange yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

So this guy right here I don't know if you can see this.

Speaker 1:

It's not on the thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this guy right here.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, there Dan yeah.

Speaker 2:

He's like the main trainer.

Speaker 1:

For 10 years, 10 plus years or whatever you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and here's a finder.

Speaker 1:

There we go Bam.

Speaker 2:

There's our situation and I'm just completely freaking out.

Speaker 1:

We're just in the elevator, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Same guy.

Speaker 1:

Which is crazy, you know, because also they're from Australia. It's not like, oh, they're in LA, we could go to an event anytime. It's like they haven't done an LA one ever in a hundred releases almost it's a. They haven't done an LA one ever in a hundred releases Almost like it it's a very. Anyway, the reason I tell that story is because that's a thing you cannot plan.

Speaker 2:

Right, there's so many things like that.

Speaker 1:

And when you try to control situations and plan situations, you squeeze out all the opportunity for these crazy, serendipitous, magical, unpredictable things like that to happen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah serendipitous, magical, unpredictable things like that to happen. Yeah, I've wanted to go to nab for at least the last 14 years. Yeah, I've never gotten to go. Yeah, and I really want to allow for as much of like nab to happen as possible, not like me trying to control it and shake it and or shape it and stuff yeah, and also like we've been to conferences where we've tried to do that and it's so exhausting. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like it's exhausting when you have every single hour planned out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and neither of us have. Like you know, we're not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're not trying to get anything out of it aside from like we're literally checking it out, just enjoying it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, like vendor wise, I really want to go by Rode and sennheiser, which is kind of obvious and that's not even product related.

Speaker 1:

I just want to see the people like that's just to hang out, because I got to hang out with a bunch of people from road earlier this year and they were just super cool. I just want to see them again. And then a bunch of people from sennheiser I've never gotten to meet in person, but we've talked to for years and they've been, you know, they've sponsored videos, they've sent equipment. They've been awesome. And so I just want to like, I want to go by the booth with like all the gear that I use and be like huh, like see uh, michael says I have a video I show my students where tom opens with.

Speaker 2:

Like it or not, your thumbnail is one of the most important things oh, that's a good opening. The thumbnail, if you got it flaunted, I guess. Uh, don't think about not thinking about thoughts about tom's puns exactly the classic clickbait thumbnails and the doggo. Add the doggo to your.

Speaker 1:

That's the biggest clickbait I'll do. Just put a cute pup in there james and mark body combat yes andre.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I think the word you are looking for is unnecessary. It's just unnecessary, even though my work, tom, could probably do with more butt down, polo, button down, butt down, yeah, button down polo shirts to little chest. First channel. Oh see, dave den used to do les mills exercises on youtube during lockdown, oh my god really I mean, I think everyone should try it, it's so fun you're not.

Speaker 1:

Actually I was scared. I did body pump, which is like the one that involves like weights and stuff, for a long time, but I was scared of combat because I thought you actually like interact with another person. Yeah, he thought it was contact, like like we're punching each other you can.

Speaker 1:

You can be 65, 70 years old and it's all like shadow boxing and stuff like yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, homesick max says any b is for you like frank, frank for music mess yes it's for me so hard to plan meetups because it's cloudy and a four-day event, so I'm always yeah, so I always improvise and it's hard because it's also those things where it's just getting around Vegas takes forever and I don't know if you saw they sent out an email saying the convention center is under construction so like add time to all your stuff.

Speaker 1:

So just getting like from hotel to convention center where you all of that just takes a ton of time and it's just like adding the stress like we need to be here at 11 45 but then we got to go here. I want that, I just want to, I just want to enjoy five.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my favorite thing and I was re-watching part of it yesterday. Every year I used to watch dave dugdale's nab recaps. He's one of like the old school camera channels on youtube one of the first ones school camera channels on YouTube, one of the first ones I subscribed to. It doesn't make videos anymore it hasn't for a number of years, but every year he would just do like Dave's 2015 NAB recap and it's literally just him back at his home office saying like oh, I went by the Adobe booth and asked them about this and I saw this cool thing from here and I was wondering about this. And then he, just during the event, he just like had his camera and would just go to like oh, here's a cool thing from canon, I'm gonna film their stuff and try that. Here's another booth, I'm not really interested in that. Here's like. He just followed his fancy and then just shared it with you afterwards and I really like that. I, I always love those videos. I always thought like it would be fun to do that. I want to do that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think it's like the classic day in the life video, except it's Tom at NAB.

Speaker 3:

Let's just go with you. There's no agenda.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing, it's just like check this out, check this out. What would Tom do if?

Speaker 2:

he was at NAB.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know if I have any burning questions or whatever, but if something pops up, like you know there's a weird thing with a product or a weird quirk, you meet the people where you can say like why does it do this?

Speaker 1:

and they can actually answer you instead of doing the like corporate email thing right and that's really cool I'm looking forward to actually see in person all this gear I only see on youtube yeah right, all the expensive stuff, because I think a lot of times too, like the, the booths, if they have like cameras and stuff, you can just put your own memory card in it, like take sample shots and then take the footage with you.

Speaker 2:

So you can like test stuff out.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know, that's typically how stuff has worked in the past at other things. I think even B&H will let you do that If you go in their store and they have their huge camera like where?

Speaker 2:

all the cameras are up.

Speaker 1:

live you can just pop in your memory card, test some stuff out and then go home and play with the footage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's going to be crazy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the B&H booth. That's another one of us, Because they're also making it possible for us to actually go.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, B&H.

Speaker 2:

I would love a Tom at NUB. Yeah, so I'm going to post all the stories, so follow on Instagram. I'm sure Tom will too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, did you ask me something.

Speaker 1:

I forgot what you asked, I just asked what you've been up to, what you've been thinking about.

Speaker 2:

And then you said you got distracted. Oh, got it yeah.

Speaker 1:

I had told my fine Mike story and then I didn't know if you had anything else that you had done this week, I can't remember I mean there's been a lot.

Speaker 2:

You've been busy this week I was busy at you I've been extra busy well, here's what I've been busy with. I downloaded disney's dreamlight valley and, oh my gosh, for you animal crossing folks, dare I say it's better. Yeah, um, it has crashed on me five times, but all the quality of life stuff with animal crossing they totally address. And all your villagers are disney characters. How cool is that? I just got ariel, I rescued her and then I set up her little cave on my island, so now she's in the ponds and stuff this thing is like that's not the cave of wonders, no, that's lion king, no, that's aladdin is the cave of wonders.

Speaker 1:

I I didn't watch a lot of disney movies as a kid, like from the golden era. I just this is where, like, and I don't know why, as a young kid I watched the old ones.

Speaker 2:

I watched fantasia no, those are the lame ones like the really old ones. Cinderella yeah, that's fantasia I watched a lot of those ones at like a babysitter's. No, those are the lame ones, Like the really old ones Cinderella.

Speaker 1:

Snow White, the ones that have no plot, it's just them like dancing. Yeah, that's Fantasia. I watched a lot of those ones at like a babysitter's, and then I watched like Aladdin at my friend's house when I was a kid. I didn't see Lion King till 2009.

Speaker 2:

How do you remember this?

Speaker 1:

Because it's really weird to be our age and not have seen Lion King when it came out.

Speaker 2:

Check this out. Let me show you. I'm going to show you this. Okay, don't say anything.

Speaker 3:

Okay, because something weird happened yesterday.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, okay, okay, so I.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

Look, I was on my phone scrolling through Instagram and then this popped up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you want something. No, I'm good, all right, okay.

Speaker 2:

So this is Tom Cruise, this is Ben Stiller.

Speaker 3:

We've worked together for so long now it's almost like.

Speaker 1:

I heard the audio. I didn't see the video. I just heard the audio.

Speaker 3:

Kind of I don't think we've ever finished each other's sentences.

Speaker 2:

I heard that was like improv, so he's actually laughing. Oh good, anyway. So he did not see it, he just heard it because I was scrolling on Instagram. It was on and Tom, what did you say? He goes. I said what is that? Oh yeah, and I was like oh, it's uh, tom cruise and ben stiller's pretending to be his uh stunt double.

Speaker 1:

And he said I was like, oh, from the 2000 mtv video music awards or movie awards. I mean, everyone said from the mtv movie awards. And you were like yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I was like oh, yeah, no, I didn't say that because I don't know what the hell it's from. There was no cat, it was just ben stiller, tom crude stunt double and you whipped out not only the year it came out, not only the award show that it was for. I thought it was an snl skit, I don't know oh no and then you were like promoting.

Speaker 1:

Promoting. Mission impossible to feature soundtrack featuring limp biscuit. Take a look around. Why that's in my head? I don't know. You know how hard it was for me to figure out taxes this year. How do you?

Speaker 3:

remember these things I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I didn't see the lion king till 2009 and, yeah, that was from 2000 like how I couldn't even tell you, like give or take, what year that movie came, that movie oh, I even remember when this came out and I watched it live I had a moon boot on my ankle because I had severely sprained my ankle at school and I was like they thought it was broken. But it was just sprained and so I was watching all this fun stuff and I couldn't do anything because I couldn't walk so if you ever meet tom, he'll remember you forever and he'll be able to whether or not you want me to, whether or not I want to anyway.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I don't remember why we brought this up, because I said oh, because that's right I never owned and this isn't like because I'm too cool, I didn't want to, I wanted to. I never owned like the big fat disney vhs case things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they were like really sharp on the edges. I never yeah I still have a couple I never had those uh, are you taking your fx3 on the show floor? Yeah, it's the only camera I'm bringing, actually that and a gopro last time I was in vegas must have been back in 99, oh it must be so different now, oh it's so different dot com, boomcom, boom, worldwide company.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness, I can't imagine what that would have been like it was all families back then.

Speaker 2:

Big petscom booth, yeah, and all the hotels were themed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and there were so many less of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's only two left, Wow.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Two.

Speaker 3:

Excalibur and.

Speaker 2:

Luxor, I think everything was treasure island. Well, now it's ti and it's been ti for so long.

Speaker 1:

Oh, and the stratosphere is the strat yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, I'd love to see heather vlog at neb to get the non-techie viewpoint I was. So I'm still kind of debating whether to bring my vlog camera. I was gonna. I don't want to have to like fiddle, that's the only thing, because I know something like this, like it's a lot to see. I feel like we're gonna be talking a lot and there's booths that are interactive that I don't want to constantly like. Put this in my backpack, which I'm telling you this and you're bringing all of the gear I'm gonna be.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna be fiddling more than I want, but the cool thing is I feel like I should help you, so I think I'm just gonna lean towards my phone the cool thing, though, is because we're able to get the press passes. There's a like a locker room, like an equipment check, but honestly, bro, like we're gonna take two hours to go to the locker and then come back look, I'm bringing like 12 microphones.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to carry them all the time.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I have three kids Disney's burned into my head.

Speaker 1:

I've seen everything since then. I didn't see Toy Story until I worked at a video store in 2004. That was my first Pixar movie.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember anything aside from, like, maybe, my life. I remember I graduated high school in 2003.

Speaker 4:

That's eighth grade in 1999.

Speaker 2:

If you asked me about movies, I don't know anything. How do you do?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I don't know, I've always been that way.

Speaker 2:

It's just a thing and I have no idea why do you know what year kanye did the hologram at coachella?

Speaker 1:

oh, that was probably like 20.

Speaker 2:

That was kind of recent though, wasn't it? Oh, he didn't do the hologram, it was Tupac. I'm going to say 2014.

Speaker 1:

Look it up Now. I want to see.

Speaker 2:

Tupac hologram year 2012. No hologram, hologram. Year 2012, no, what year? What? Your whole? I mean 2012 that makes what year? What's? This is 2014, 2012 2012 um, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

2012, because I knew what school I was working at when that happened, because it was obviously big talk. But I that was the end of my first contract year teaching, and later that year I moved into digital media.

Speaker 2:

Yes, our city is totally insane right now because this is Coachella weekend one. And it is five miles from our house and it's just well, it's not not insanity, but I almost did get run off the road yesterday it's a. The gym was weird this morning it wasn't weird, it's just a different.

Speaker 1:

You didn't have the same reaction to the guy vaping in line at the gym as I did oh, I didn't see that guy.

Speaker 2:

He's just vaping in the gym.

Speaker 1:

They were trying to get customer service help because everyone from out of town is trying to like go to the gym and check in and add someone and the guy was just like I, was like buddy.

Speaker 1:

And then the guy behind the counter. I thought he was gonna say, hey, man, like you can't vape at the gym. And instead he was like hey, you need to look, this is the person that you're adding. And I was like we're just not, we're not talking about this right now anyway, brio nerd remembers I disappear by metallica, also from mi2.

Speaker 1:

Yes I do remember that because they did a music video of it and it was jason. No, is it? Jason newsted their bassist. It was the first video. He was in like the first song. It was where they were in like the suits and they were like secret agents or something this is your superpower I forgot about that music video until I saw that comment.

Speaker 2:

Uh tom gotta notice a little bit ago from the new tom, the long star caster coming out in july from fender. Not my thing but I know you love them yeah yeah, I just like I don't need there's not enough wall space anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I had to really stop myself last fall from getting the Mark Hoppus signature base that he re-released.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I love this. You guys are like a lucky pill for my Friday evening mood.

Speaker 1:

Let's hope we're an upper and not a downer.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Do not mix with alcohol.

Speaker 2:

I'm sadly like that with stuff. I can quote stupid lines from movies and shows at random outbursts for the perfect moment. That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

It's a blessing and a curse For sure. Random outbursts for the perfect moment, that's crazy. I mean it's a blessing and a curse for sure I wish I could do that.

Speaker 2:

I just I can't. I don't know, heather, what are you hoping to see? Nab tech related, not tech related. Honestly, I'll tell you what I'm genuinely hoping for. I feel like people are gonna recognize tom and I'm just so excited for it you're gonna pay someone?

Speaker 1:

no, I'm not gonna do that. Come on, oh my gosh, are you?

Speaker 2:

tim I mean tom stupid, I'm just excited, I'm just excited. I'm excited to like for people to be excited for you, you know I mean, I feel like that's gonna happen. The thing about nab, though, is it's so industry focused I know, but the people who know you know you as they should he keeps saying oh, so big, like what? Yeah, I feel like people are gonna be excited to see tb in person. So that that's it, everything else, and I just help you okay you tell?

Speaker 1:

you tell me what you need. Yeah, I don't know. I can't think of anything silly to say I'm calling you, tim.

Speaker 2:

I also want to play a beer pong with audio hotline oh yeah is that a race?

Speaker 1:

oh, that's the rice cooker uh notch notch tom.

Speaker 2:

A christmas present idea for heather dj pocket.

Speaker 1:

Three vlogging oh yeah, everybody loves that camera wait that's the one that has its own camera on it little gimbal, yeah, yeah, but it's like the new one and it does look really good and it like it can track you, but it looks really cool. So you set it down and you do your thing and it just like follows you and then you carry it around and it looks pretty cool, like I've. I've kind of like looked at the the order page for a while. Are you leaning next to me to like hint something, or are you just adjusting yourself there?

Speaker 2:

no, I'm sus.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, I'm sus because of the company, but the product is oh yeah, I.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. You don't like dj. We don't have to put that like the product. Just pretend I didn't. Just pretend I didn't say that, I'm just not into the company.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell them. You know what? I'll go to the DJ booth and tell them, because they ain't listening.

Speaker 2:

Andre stayed at Mandalay Bay, did the rounds at the breakfast buffet at Caesars, finding out Circus, circus was nothing like it was in Fear and Loathing four days and nights.

Speaker 1:

I'm at the point now where still, the first time I went to Vegas was also in 2009. Big year, first Vegas for Lion King, and 2009 was when?

Speaker 2:

How do you know this?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, 2009 was when the Hangover came out and I went like three months after the movie came out. So the whole time I was like that's from the Hangover, that's from the Hangover, that's from that Like going back to Caesar Palace.

Speaker 2:

That's the by the caesar palace time you went.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when that movie came yes, and it was like right after. So it was everything looked exactly the same. You know, because there's so much construction and changes sure yeah but that's still still when we go to vegas. My main thing is like is that still like it wasn't a hangover? Is that still like it was? Oh my gosh especially caesar's, like the entrance to caesar's still looks exactly same, like the fountain inside and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I grew up going to Vegas because I have family there. So I never yeah, I couldn't tell you I went to a friend's.

Speaker 1:

I went to a friend. The first time I went, 2009, was to a friend's bachelor party, and the night started with everyone going to Hooters, where I was deeply uncomfortable, but fortunately my dad had taken me to many a Hooters as a kid because that's the life we lead. So it was at least a little familiar and I kind of understood the situation. But that was like the appetizer to where everyone was going afterwards and then everyone got like real tipsy, was heading to the more intense places than hooters and I was like I'm gonna head back to the hotel room.

Speaker 1:

I'll see you guys in the morning, and then my memory is. In the morning everybody was essentially dead and just miserable and I was like, I was like I had done a workout and I was like ready to go.

Speaker 2:

No, last time I was in vegas I was up at 7 30 am walking the vegas strip and it had just like rained the previous I think it was like still drizzling and it was like misty morning. It was gorgeous. I loved it quiet yeah, uh, let's see. Michael says my wife is already expecting me to fanboy.

Speaker 1:

That would be yeah, please, please like I am be yeah, please, please, like.

Speaker 2:

I am a boo. We should meet up at the B&H booth.

Speaker 1:

Let's just call it I mean they did pay for us to go there. Yeah, let's meet up at the B&H booth as good as my memory is, I'm oblivious to most things around me, so you might have to. Just if I'm there and I don't see you, I'm not ignoring you.

Speaker 2:

I think we should meet him at the B&H booth. Tim Buck, blue Chip is here. The upside of a rainy spring day is that I don't have any sports to photograph this afternoon so I can tune in Nice. Yeah, Andre Tom should sign everything, Tim Beck at.

Speaker 1:

NAB. It's my alter ego, like Garth Brooks had that one guy, was it the? It's like alter ego. It's like the evil with the bad boy.

Speaker 2:

You were asking the wrong person oh I have no idea. The pocket three would probably be a perfect gift there you go. I mean, it honestly looks like super cool I feel like I wanted something specific for my birthday this year, but I don't remember what.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'd love to know what.

Speaker 2:

Melanie is here.

Speaker 1:

Hello.

Speaker 2:

Hi, it's good to see you, and Vegas is just a big movie set.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, speaking of the Hangover, I actually saw them filming part of that movie, not in Vegas, but on the 210 freeway. Oh, the car part. Yeah, I was traveling to my university when I was in college. That's the thailand cam and um, it's the yeah, the part where they're like in the car, and it's like they're racing on the way back or whatever. Um, they had the whole other side of the freeway going and I saw like the car drive by and I was like wow, what is that?

Speaker 2:

and then all like the camera is still so funny. I think it's still. It wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if some of it would hold up in 2024, but that was one of those ones, because I remember 2009 um, I love you.

Speaker 1:

Man came out with paul rudd yeah and I loved that movie and it was super funny and I was like this is the funniest movie of the year and no one knew what the hangover was. It wasn't. It had no reputation, it didn't even have like well-known actors in it or anything and it just sort of came out as like this nothing thing and it was just like it just destroyed everything, as like the by far the funniest movie of the year, and I remember being in the theater just like so ridiculous in pain from like laughing but the only other time I can remember being in that much like physical pain from laughing at a movie in the theater was super bad.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I, I didn't go to an aquabats concert because I was like too tired and I was like let's just go to the movies and watch. Super bad, and I was like almost gonna throw up from laughing.

Speaker 2:

So that movie is one I didn't see until way later.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, that came out in like 2008 or something I didn't see it till way later I had had.

Speaker 2:

I threw a party at my apartment once the cops came, and I don't know why, because obviously someone called them because we were being too loud and I think someone was trying to find like a driver's license or something, and I was just. You know what I did. Do you know what I did? When the cops came, I went to go get my boxing gloves and I do you know what I did when the cops came, I went to go get my boxing gloves and I put them on and just started like boxing the cops, not like actually hitting them.

Speaker 2:

I was a little bit drunk and then they they proceeded to go. Have you seen super bad and I felt so bad because I had it that's what the cops said yeah, what kind of police visit is this? I feel like, okay, yeah, it was in a city that never gets any action, so they were like probably like finally this is very different from a lot of the police stories you hear recently but yeah, I wish I could have said yes because he was like so excited to tell me some kind of reference.

Speaker 1:

I get it. Yeah, oh no, it's the cops oh yeah, I don't know. Anyway, uh, chris gaines chris, that's who it was. I I knew it was like Chris Payne's, something he like, it was like a thing Like he had a different look. He had like dark hair and like a goatee and different kind of music, and like there was like a big reveal where he finally admitted like it is the same person.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my God, I can't.

Speaker 1:

No, I think it was all a marketing. You know it wasn't like it was a very well-known secret, but yeah, just a weird thing.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, Anyway, tim Beck is my Chris Gaines. Tim Beck, tim Beck, that's me. I don't like it.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not my name. I mean, there's probably a Tim Beck out there. Good for you.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of movie sets, when I lived in New York, the only movie related place I went to was the Ghostbusters building. I've never been.

Speaker 1:

I accidentally found it. It must have been when I was in New York alone the time before we went together. I was just walking by and I was walking on the sidewalk, and on the sidewalk was the Ghostbusters Like the fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was the Ghostbusters logo and I was like what? And I looked up and I was like, oh, it's like the fire station, it's very near casey nice, that studio. Oh, why didn't we go? I don't know, I don't. I mean, you're not like super into ghost it's that close, just walk a street over I mean, it's a little further than like one street over.

Speaker 2:

But oh, I can see heather with purple boxing gloves.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know you had boxing gloves explains the body combat love, though they weren't like full purple boxing gloves. I didn't know you had boxing gloves. It explains the body combat love, though.

Speaker 2:

They weren't like full-on boxing gloves, they were uh, it's for like speed bag, so they're a lot smaller and thinner. You don't have to like wrap them or anything.

Speaker 1:

Who are you telling me about different kinds of? Of course? Yeah, just tell me more about specific boxing gloves. I didn't know any of this.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know any of this. The legit boxing gloves are super padded because obviously, like you're getting into the ring and punching people, this is like you're just hitting the thing. Yeah, so it's like way.

Speaker 1:

Little dingleberry bag.

Speaker 2:

They're just yeah, anyway, anyway. They were white with green stripes because they were Adidas. Spm movie sets. We talked about that. Tim Beck, av Knights. Tim Beck stripes because they were adidas uh, spian movie sets. We talked about that.

Speaker 1:

Tim beck, av nights, tim beck sounds like he's gonna be at stagecoach. Are you gonna? We're just gonna google this random man all right oh, there you go football coach this is exactly what I imagined it to impact.

Speaker 1:

There is a Tom Buck who, maybe there's two, I think there's one who is a well-known pastor but like for stuff that I might not 100% agree with. And there's another guy who's like an accountant, who is in prison for like financial fraud. Because the news things often pop up and I always wonder, like if somebody does google search something, do they think I was involved in something very shady or weird?

Speaker 2:

have you googled yourself recently?

Speaker 1:

recently. No see, the guy who comes up before me is not me, but he's.

Speaker 2:

He's got the at oh, this is not you, that's not me. Fathers, if your children don't feel safe to honestly confess their sins to you, they likely don't feel safe to honestly confess their sins to you. They likely won't feel safe to honestly confess their sins to their heavenly father. Legalism doesn't produce godliness and it doesn't help you confess the deep sin in your heart.

Speaker 1:

This is not my Twitter, by the way. Just to be clear. If you find this, he's got at Tom Buck, he does does.

Speaker 2:

that's why I'm freaking at so darn tom I'm sorry, I just have to take a little peek into your. Oh no, I accidentally signed it. Oh, I'm not saying boy oh, so this is tom buck.

Speaker 1:

There you go, he's cool he's drinking a waffle house cup, um, but there's another one who's in prison for oh, here's the past.

Speaker 2:

He's the pastor, okay that's. There's another guy who like committed crimes, okay, and then the second one is hi I'm tom buck, a lifelong av nerd and a former high school digital media it's a different vibe. Look at, this is tom right here. Look at hi and welcome. Here's my podcast. Here's the stuff I use to make stuff, or here's the gear I should have said that and then, um, if you don't know about this, tom wrote a book about his life not literally well, I told him to turn into a book eventually.

Speaker 2:

But here you see this. Do you see how small this is? Okay, boom. I don't know how long it took you to wrote. You crunch this out in like two days yeah, but I mean, it was like 48 writing. It was like walden in the woods.

Speaker 1:

Look at this this is really long. When I see you scroll through it, bam, it's because it's because of youtube comments, because people will say like who?

Speaker 2:

are you?

Speaker 1:

why should I listen to him and I'm like I don't know you shouldn't. I don't claim to be a pro, I don't claim to have the answers those people aren't gonna read this no, I know, but it's there for anyone who is curious I have a skill set. I have levels of professionalism in my background. I do not bank on those for youtube at all.

Speaker 1:

It's all enthusiast point of view, but I figured like, hey, if you can click this thing and you get the whole context, you could go start to finish. I probably need to update at this point, but you can see the origin story and then you can decide if you want to trust me or not, or you can make that decision on yourself, but you get the full picture of what it's. But of course the people who say those things would never go yeah, they wouldn't read one paragraph, much less like.

Speaker 2:

But people have read it. That's the thing. People have read it, but it's people who would like.

Speaker 1:

They're not going to be the ones who are saying jerky comments but, it's, it's, it's a cool thing. That's there and it was. It was actually really fun to write because it was like a cool trip down memory lane and I, you know, I put in like photos and photo galleries. So when I say like I was a classroom teacher, here's a picture of it, like yeah, and that's kind of cool uh, l is here.

Speaker 2:

I have purple boxing gloves too, that's great. That face is unhashable. Uh tom, did you create your own web page or did you have someone else set it up in?

Speaker 1:

square space. Baby. Been using square space since 2010 yes, and this is not sponsored. No, they've never reached out once that's because I mean that's fine, but yeah, it's I have built so many sites there's also tom buck the voiceover. Yes yeah, if you go to tombuckcom, it's the voiceover artist, which is very cool, yeah, and I think I mentioned working at a video store earlier, so when I was.

Speaker 2:

Oh, look at this. How cute is this. So here are the videos that come up. We have how Tom Buck left his nine to five.

Speaker 1:

That's on Bud Sprout's channel.

Speaker 2:

Cute.

Speaker 1:

And we have Kat.

Speaker 2:

Talking audio with Tom Buck, and then we have cat talk talking audio with tom buck.

Speaker 1:

And then we have gear focus, the creativity of a teacher, tom buck I like all these, I like that.

Speaker 2:

It's like not just my channel well, none of them are tom and jennifer buck interview tom buck, teacher of the year oh my god, look at this oh, it's that one, it's this one. Oh my god, everyone needs to watch this video.

Speaker 1:

It's so cute this was like a legit production. I didn't make this. People came in and made it. It's when.

Speaker 2:

Tom became. He was teacher of the year. He almost became California. He was in the running to become California teacher of the year.

Speaker 1:

And then I quit yeah and then he quit.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's so cute.

Speaker 1:

This was like crazy, my teaching career almost doesn't make sense, in a way because I started as an English teacher.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, can we just get my shoes right now?

Speaker 1:

How adorable I had a personal background in digital media and film and video and design, and at a previous school. Look at that guy.

Speaker 2:

Look at that guy walking in class.

Speaker 1:

This was all filmed October 2019. So he asked me do you want to take over this position? And before I 2019. So he asked me do you want to take over this position? And before I even knew anything about it, I jumped on it and said yes.

Speaker 1:

The thing that inspired me most to become a teacher were the teachers that I had firsthand the impact that the positive teacher can have on a student's life and I grew up feeling like I didn't belong in a lot of places and that I wasn't always part of a group and every once in a while those teachers would show up. That just sort of changed that and as I got older and I realized I could do that for other people.

Speaker 2:

Look at him. This is him and his element. I miss that stuff a lot.

Speaker 5:

He won't say oh, I teach broadcast, oh, I teach CTE, oh, I teach impact, oh, I teach graphic design. He will say I teach kids.

Speaker 4:

He can take the shyest kids and just like pull this amazing confidence out of them I came here kind of lost, didn't know what he's making so many cool students that I didn't know I needed buck really taught me how to speak my mind and like embrace who I am because the starter is you and you need to be you.

Speaker 1:

I started the impact pathway at indio High School four years ago and it was the first arts, media and entertainment CTE pathway in our district.

Speaker 3:

The teaching and learning that I see through this program. It's very inspiring, it's extremely engaging for the students.

Speaker 2:

But what I?

Speaker 3:

appreciate. Most students are becoming both consumers and creators of their information.

Speaker 4:

When you're trying to talk about bridging the education gap, tom's doing that. He gives them skills, he gives them confidence.

Speaker 1:

One of the ways that I help my students foster that environment of creativity and camaraderie and safety is by failing myself in front of them repeatedly. Because once they see that it's okay to be the goofy one and it's okay for things not to work out, then they're okay doing that. He kind of let us be the goofy one and it's okay for things not to work out, then they're okay doing that. He kind of let us be the teacher.

Speaker 3:

He let us explain who we were and how we wanted to be.

Speaker 5:

He went about the business of teaching students, I think without really thinking how his work affected the community.

Speaker 3:

The impact program has enabled students to have a stronger voice, a stronger voice in the local community, in the state, nationally, even globally.

Speaker 4:

You can't miss the impact he's had on our school. Everything he does has a positive effect.

Speaker 1:

Aww, did you hear that? That's so sweet? I try, there's really only so much that I can provide to my students as one person, and so it becomes critical to include community and industry partners to give them the skills that they need.

Speaker 3:

He's always that teacher, that's always pushing the boundaries, he's always going that one extra step of helping the students, going out of his way to make sure students are getting what they get to become better.

Speaker 4:

He's funny he's charismatic and he's just overall, an amazing guy who embraces all of his students.

Speaker 3:

He just makes everything fun. Everything is a homey environment. He's like a bigger brother that no one really has.

Speaker 1:

He's really goofy and funny. A lot of students say that Impact is their second home. A lot of them come to school specifically to be here. It's the thing that brings them here every day and that is something that I can't put into words the way that that feels when you start to admire the people that you're supposed to be teaching it's kind of a powerful, crazy paradigm that gets shifted.

Speaker 3:

It's dusty in there.

Speaker 1:

It's the most rewarding thing in the world that.

Speaker 5:

I could ever think of. I will tell you that we have some kids that he's brought into high success, achievement and given them a sense of their own future, who didn't have that when they walked in the doors of this school. When they walked in, they didn't know where they fit, they didn't know where they belonged. He has a keen sense of finding those kids and pulling something out of them and connecting them and giving them an eye for the future.

Speaker 4:

Everybody should see what Mr Buck brings to you, what impact he makes in your life.

Speaker 3:

Mr Buck is most deserving of being recognized as a riverside county teacher of the year and it's everything a teacher should be.

Speaker 1:

That's so adorable I would hire that guy, geez that's so cute.

Speaker 2:

We just ended up watching the whole video.

Speaker 1:

Well, they did a good job. That was cool, though you should have totally won the friggin a film crew came to my classroom like the county office of education just employs, like this amazing video production crew, and they came and spent two days there and put the whole thing together. But they let my students like intern with them and like they were shooting like big old cinema cameras and all this crazy lighting.

Speaker 2:

So here's my favorite thing about this video I feel like it does. It does a really good job of summarizing what the hell you did before you did youtube and so for anyone to say, oh, who's this youtuber shilling out blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2:

He's just a sellout or whatever. I don't know what people say about you, but I'm just like no, no, no, he has been doing this for a long time, you know, and it's just like. I know you have a lot of guilt because you're not a teacher anymore, but to me, the way I see it, is that you're able to do this right, like you're able to do this, but to thousands of people all over the world, not just to the, you know, 200 students in your classroom right and, like so many of your former students, still watch your youtube videos.

Speaker 2:

I I know they do, because when we bump into them out in the world, they're like oh, you know, they talk about your videos. It's cool so, like you know, I it's cool that you're you're just doing you, you're just still doing you and you, it's just been like the sweetest episode ever I got nothing sarcastic to say uh, it's just, it's great anyway.

Speaker 1:

Um uh we went to go look tom buck, the voiceover artist, and we found this video.

Speaker 2:

Yeah uh, luca da pazzi is here lu.

Speaker 1:

Luca's the one who made my custom sleeve for the road PSA when boomer.

Speaker 2:

Oh great. He talks about it all the time. I do, kathy. I was 2019 North Carolina assistant principal of the year, but I didn't get a cool video. That's a bummer. Gil says it's really dope. This is awesome, ernesto Tim Beck. Mr California, seriously, you've inspired my studio and mic setup. Heather provides me with the motivation I'm focused on school now, but definitely glad to have found you on YouTube. Ah, so great. Is that going to go on forever?

Speaker 1:

I think, so I'm going to go turn that one off.

Speaker 2:

No, here here you read these. Oh yeah, I'm already up, right. Well, I don't want to read the comments without you, because our um, I think I was cooking lunch, the cooking timer went off and now it's just a constant beeping. Anyway, I just like, I don't think that people realize how your, your passion, enthusiasm is undeniable, it's just, it's just there. Even if, if the, if the youtube video, if your camera isn't on, you're still doing the thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like you're just you. That is very true, it's not, like you, changed because of YouTube. It's just, youtube is capturing what's already, what was already happening.

Speaker 1:

I did a video this week that was my camera rig and I broke it down and explained it just because I thought it'd be helpful. And someone left a comment yesterday that was like thanks for sharing your process and stuff. It's really helpful. It's cool that you're generous with your knowledge, cause a lot of people just like don't share what they know. And I was like like it was weird, cause I don't, I don't know how to not do that. Like oh, I figured this out here. Let me tell you like there is no like secret ingredient. But it made me think like wait, is it very common for that? I don't know. Like is everyone? I feel like everyone here like is happy to share their stuff? But it makes me wonder like are there? Is it very common for people to be like this is how I do stuff I don't share, how I do it.

Speaker 2:

No, this is how I do stuff Sign up for my online course. So, like, whatever, that's what I should have done. Audio hotline says oh, that's amazing, this is fantastic.

Speaker 1:

look at that tie oh, I love me a skinny tie education needs more tom bucks.

Speaker 2:

I the thing about education. I was gonna say yes, but the thing is that education I feel like, would um like?

Speaker 1:

you're talking to two former educators.

Speaker 2:

Suffocate the tomba. That's the problem. That was the problem Because pre-COVID whatever I just Like Tom would come home.

Speaker 1:

He would do this, but then just utterly exhausted, and it wasn't the teaching, but it was just so much like meetings that you didn't need to be in, like just so much You're able to do more teaching now yeah, than you were in the classroom yeah, the parts where like it was like the the parts where I get to do the stuff, where I'm like working with students in the classroom yeah, I would do that for free. It was the the paycheck went to, like all the other stuff that I had to do just yeah, you look like dr tom.

Speaker 2:

I love this. Look at the bright side, tom. Now your gift benefits even more people exactly I love this now that brought tears to me look at that reelect mayor of cool.

Speaker 1:

Hey, kevin, hey what's up?

Speaker 2:

tim for president, this was really beautiful, mad respect for you, tom, thank you all true. Still here on YouTube creating stuff because of Tom oh, that's so great. The secret is there. There's no secret oh the secret is there's no secret ingredient. This is a movie. Do you know what movie this is? I don't know if you've seen it. The Secret.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Kung Fu Panda. Oh, I, but I don't remember it the reason he unrolls the scroll is empty. Oh, I think I just dropped a major spoiler. Um, I'm doing a podcast with another youtube channel sharing how to get started from scratch. Any chance I get to share what I knew I'm all over it. Yes, yeah it's super common for people to do that.

Speaker 1:

When I do consulting, I get told I'm too open with my process it's so funny because it's like are you gonna do this for me, like what? It doesn't you know? Like, here's all the stuff, but someone still has to do it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I feel like it's a scarcity mindset, because it's like I can't tell you, because now you're going to copy me and do it. But it's like, well, if you have the abundance mindset, you want to lift everybody up, not be the top.

Speaker 1:

Here's how I do everything. And then someone takes something, incorporates another thing, changes it and levels it up or whatever someone takes something incorporates another thing, changes it and levels it up or whatever. It just makes it more interesting. And then I see that it's like oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

Miro Davis says where I work, everyone has a closed book. That's what makes you so engaging an open book. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

The Buck Book.

Speaker 2:

Tech Troublemaker says great creators share what you love Facts. Well, that was nice, that was great.

Speaker 1:

What a positive, uplifting feeling I have right now.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just you know, this is actually perfect that we did this before NAB. I think you know it's just because we're going to a thing where all the gear is expensive and you know it's an expensive hobby.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I've only ever had those when things get attached to money.

Speaker 2:

People feel weird about it, but it's just. It's like you're just as excited about the Fafine mic. That's an entry level.

Speaker 1:

That's true. So there you go, that's true.

Speaker 2:

But I'm just, I'm so proud of you Well.

Speaker 1:

Thank you and thanks for all the kind, kind words.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the impact of impact, all right. Well, I think it's time to clear the table.

Speaker 1:

Time to clear that table, all righty.

Speaker 2:

How do you feel? You seem quiet.

Speaker 1:

I just like I'm a little touched, you know.

Speaker 2:

He's crying. No, he's gonna go into the bathroom and shed a tear.

Speaker 1:

no, yes you are, I see it, I can see he's got tears in the ducks, it's just the sun is like in my eyes and there's everywhere in here you were actually gonna cry no, oh my god, he's gonna cry the pointing and point oh no, we're good, all right, uh, something about something gotta go. Oh, look, max gotta go. That means we gotta go all right.

Speaker 1:

The problem with education now is 80 administrative work reports, staffs and mays changes and framework policies and everything but teaching yes, swim up river to finally get to all right.

Speaker 2:

So before we go, if you're not already follow Soda on Tom and Heather, Just Create over on Instagram where we are going to be sharing all of the chaos, madness and fun. That is NAB.

Speaker 1:

And hey, if you're on the fence of going and somehow you're going to be in Vegas tomorrow or you live in the area, you can go to nabshowcom and register as an attendee with promo code HEATHER24 to get your exhibition pass totally free.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we'll basically be on the floor.

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's the main. You can go to all the stuff, but the floor is like the thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and if you see us say hi Just keep on walking.

Speaker 1:

It's like Tom, I didn't think. I'm sure you did not see the Simpsons movie, but Now you have to listen for people calling you Tim. Oh yeah, okay, I wouldn't even notice someone calling me Tom, much less a different name the Simpsons movie. One of the few cameos in it was Tom Hanks and at the end in the credits it's his character there and he's like hi, this is Tom Hanks saying if you, see me in public. Please just let me be.

Speaker 2:

That's what I was thinking all right, tom, you are the best audio hotline see you tomorrow here we go all right, guys, this has been fun. We'll catch you on the flip side have a safe, happy, healthy fun.

Speaker 1:

Rest your week and we'll see you, I guess nab recap from next week yeah, maybe we'll go live I I am bringing my cam link are you serious? Yeah, just in case and a little your laptop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe we'll go live in the hotel room. Okay, the last time we went live in a vegas hotel room, tom was on only fans why did you go there?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. He's in vegas hotel room, so this is what he did he hurt himself and I had to turn it off he I forgot about this I forgot it must have been, it was venetian. It was our. Was it our engagement trip, our anniversary? Because of course, we're gonna just do a freaking live stream. It's so I don't know. Oh, you got so excited to show. See, this is the thing, tom's enthusiasm. Sometimes it gets the better of him.

Speaker 2:

He got so excited to show. See, this is the thing, tom's enthusiasm. Sometimes it gets the better of him. He got so excited to show something on camera. I think it was chocolate or a cookie. It was a freaking cookie, because I'm six. It was a cookie and it had M&Ms on it, and so he wanted to show it on the. I don't know if it was the couples table I was 37 years old at the time so he shot up from his seat and then hit the light that was.

Speaker 2:

There was a big metal light chandelier hanging and it like there was like a sharp point and it just hit him like a wrought iron thing in the head and then he literally goes down onto the floor and I'm like, oh my god. And then everyone in the chat's like, oh my god. And tom's just like, cut it, cut it. And I'm like I feel like we should keep going. It's fine. No, he was. He was like I was he was sad boy that hurt yeah, it hurt and he was also embarrassed embarrassed too.

Speaker 1:

I was a little embarrassed there and when you describe it.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

There's an episode of the Office where I think it's Jim and Pam. They go to like Michael's house and his sliding glass door is broken and they explain that he was outside and he heard the ice cream truck and he ran like into the door and shattered it.

Speaker 3:

Oy.

Speaker 1:

You're explaining me jumping up to show a cookie to the camera.

Speaker 2:

That's my. Has the same energy. That's tom. Okay, let me tell you who would hurt himself by trying to show a cookie on a live stream is tom buck, everybody I want to get another one of those cookies though sloan's at oh, behind every great man isn't even better, is he? Heather is doing an awesome job yeah how can we get him a? I'm tim beck, educator, extraordinaire teacher from a ending b. Mess that up behind every great man is an even better way we'll get there paul feinberg.

Speaker 2:

I will be there from sunday to wednesday. Woot bnh party condor, blue part dave mays in and out there you go. Uh, see you guys, bye, bye, bye, bye, let's go. Best couple table ending ever.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, kevin was watching that live stream oh yeah, all right, all right, have a great day, guys. See you guys later, bye, bye bye.

Speaker 2:

Where's my outro screen? You?