The Couple's Table
The Couple’s Table is a weekly livestream podcast hosted by Heather Ramirez and Tom Buck. Join us, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, as long as we both shall podcast and stuff!
The Couple's Table
Creative Chaos in the YouTube Journey
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hello and welcome. My name is tom and I. You cut me off. I got confused because you're talking about rice cookers. Well, let me hear how the sound sounds, okay, anyway, hello and welcome. My name is tom and I'm heather.
Speaker 3:You're sitting at the couple's table the couple's level is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse, for richer or poorer in sickness and in health.
Speaker 1:We're talking about rice cookers and not yeah so what's the rice cooker thing? Oh, we got, we got you. You had a rice cooker that you've had since college, yeah, and we used it for years, but it finally, kind of it gave up the ghost, basically yeah, so it's a ghost, it's a ghost we had to get a new one, and there was kind of like, do you get the high-end one or you just get like you?
Speaker 3:know it's a rice cooker, Just get the Amazon one, yeah.
Speaker 1:We got a, you know, an adorable little like basic one, and Heather is not pleased.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it cooks unevenly. So, so, anyway, we're debating whether to get rid of it or not, and that's what we were talking about, if you want to know what kind of riveting discussions we have. And then it threw Tom for a loop here. Anyway, hello everyone Checking in. Sammy Superstar is in the house. Perfect Jennings, what's up? Kane is here. Good morning everybody. Shotgun Studio is here. Tom is leaning over to check the audio. Kane says making pancakes for my kids' breakfast on Saturday morning while listening to the couple's table, my favorite weekend tradition.
Speaker 1:That is like such a nice, how charming I know Saturday morning pancakes.
Speaker 3:Listening to us, it's crazy how far ahead in the future you are. You're at the table, Matt rough in the house. Hi, Tom and Heather Only have a few minutes.
Speaker 1:We're glad you're here, glad, glad you're here.
Speaker 3:Glad you're here and Michael's here. Hello All, taking a break from a video I'm trying to get done before NAB Nice. Oh my gosh, we have one week till.
Speaker 1:NAB yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just I don't know how, but I feel it, I feel. The vibes, I feel the excitement about it.
Speaker 1:Nab excited, yeah. And if you want to be excited about NAB and you're going to be in the Las Vegas area between April 13th and 17th 2024, you can go to nabshowcom and sign up for an exhibition pass. You can register as an attendee and you can use promo code HEATHER24, all one word, HEATHER24, to get your exhibition pass for free. It goes from $170 to zero.
Speaker 3:We'll beat anyone's advertised price, so your pass is free. I want a coffee in the house. I really want that Panasonic induction rice cooker with a layered multi-metal bowl. It's like 600 bucks.
Speaker 1:That's a baller.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the one that I got was like $125. And I was like, oh, I should have bought the $250.
Speaker 2:But it's just rice.
Speaker 3:You know how could you mess up the rice? I don't know anyway. Shaka suji says, hoping to get back on track with the huddle up.
Speaker 1:My nine to five has been crazy busy looking to get recorded again all I notice, even as somebody who's not been at the huddle up because I've been busy. I notice the progress and the changes on your channel too.
Speaker 3:So oh, that's so great it's definitely, it's definitely working yeah, um, I hope it's been fun. So anyway, what's up, tom couple?
Speaker 1:things couple things. I know we have some cool stuff to dive into some fun topics, um, but before that, sammy's here, so I'm using the microphone I'm using. Right now. I'm using the audio technica at897, which is a shotgun microphone, speaking of shotgun studio over there, so I was very nervous if the audio was working. But I think it was last week or the week before, Sammy I think it was Sammy somebody asked have you ever used like a shotgun microphone as a in this, which is not what this microphone is designed for. It's not supposed to be.
Speaker 3:It's you know it's supposed to be in a boom out of frame. Tom just brings in a different microphone every time and I'm like whatever, but I wanted to try, especially in this case.
Speaker 1:You know we're close together. There could be some mic bleed, so see how directional it is. But also this microphone specifically I did a video on. I think it's a pretty underrated microphone it's about 250 dollars, super good shotgun microphone.
Speaker 1:Um, when I first started putting podcasts together, like 10 years ago now, they were all based around this microphone. I wasn't on the podcast, I was like producing them for school districts and we started with just video production gear. We had which wasn't sm7bs and all that it was, had a couple of these that I inherited. This is not a new microphone. It's been around for at least 15 years I guess, if not more. Um, and I really liked them, used them and then eventually we upgraded to it's just what we had. It a good mic, but it's not intended for this purpose and I thought it actually worked great. Eventually we upgraded to other mics and stuff, but I was always impressed with how these performed, especially around people who didn't know how to use microphones, like who weren't used to speaking on mics, and so when Sammy said that I think it was Sammy last week or the week before it made me want to try this and, speaking of microphones, this is the second podcast we've done today.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I know, and then I took a nap and I woke up at like 1240. So I'm a little groggy.
Speaker 1:Heather joined me on this week's episode of the Enthusiasm Project, my podcast, which comes out on Monday morning. We recorded that this morning and that's a fun one, because I was sort of struggling with show topics and she was like well, it's been three years since you quit, over three years since you quit your job. Why don't we kind of do a reflection and a look back on that? And it's fun because also, it was the first time I've had a second person in my new studio setup.
Speaker 1:He loved it. I did, I absolutely loved it. It really feels I know I've talked about this and you're like Tom, you move some stuff around, like it's fine, but it really feels like a creative plug was like removed, like a real block was gone. And I'm realizing how many times I would want to make something or have an idea and I would think like either I can't do that with my current setup it will be a pain to do that with my current setup or like I just don't want to go through the hoops that I'm gonna have to do to like tear things down, set things up. And the versatility built in here is like every time I have an idea I can just make it happen. We can do our podcast, I can record videos. I recorded a patreon thing and a youtube channel membership thing and like multiple podcasts did live streams and it's all just like easy. Yeah, I didn't realize. I just didn't realize. It's like running with ankle weights and not realizing you're wearing them um, that's it.
Speaker 3:So trying to figure out what to do for my 40th wedding anniversary, which is New Year's Eve. So I have time, but my wife refuses to leave America right now and she doesn't like the cold and doesn't like Florida Southern.
Speaker 1:California. Yeah, go to sunny San Diego.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or the California desert. Cool people are there too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, If you don't like the cold isn too. Yeah, if you don't like the cold, isn't that? I mean, it actually can't get chilly here though? Yeah, but that's it's not.
Speaker 1:It's like fake chili you know, yeah, I mean especially if you weren't were to go to a place like san diego hey, everyone says gil, what's up? Gil makes multiple appearances in this week's episode as well, so thank you for that, gil.
Speaker 3:On a coffee. How about a fancy? Resort for NY in SoCal or Arizona.
Speaker 1:That's perfect. Hotel Del Coronado.
Speaker 3:Hotel Del. We've stayed there, del. Yeah, there's something I was going to tell you and I can't remember. I'm still waking up. Can I have a sip? Yeah, hey, real pal room.
Speaker 1:I think I'm trying to blast through if I have my updates and things.
Speaker 3:What about the Jack video?
Speaker 1:Oh well, yeah, that was one. So I just mentioned I did some Patreon stuff. Jack Conte, or I don't know, he didn't release a video. South by Southwest released a video of a talk that he gave during this year's South by Southwest, and, speaking personally for me, like I love Patreon, I admire Jack Conte, but sometimes I'm not always on the same page with him when I see his talks and his presentations and things like our approaches are just not always the same.
Speaker 1:This one, though, is very interesting because he's he really goes through the history of, you know, like what it meant when there was a subscribe button and a follower, to what it means now when someone chooses to go out of their way to like seek out something or someone that they enjoy, the stuff that they make, and he's talking about you know.
Speaker 1:Of course, he's talking about where Patreon fits in on that, because he's the founder of Patreon, but it was interesting because, for me personally, you had some revelations about it. For me, patreon like rebranded, I don't know four or five months ago now, and when they did that, they opened up a free tier where you can just join a page for free, and there's no way to turn it off, as far as I know, and but they also didn't really tell you about it. So if you're somebody who creates on Patreon, you just started noticing-and-so joined as a free member, free member and you're like what does that mean? What do they see? What is there for that? Like there's no, it's not like you created a tier and they joined it.
Speaker 3:It's like yeah, but I think, like patriot patrons know what it is, you don't have to worry I I, as a patron and as a creator and supporter on patreon, absolutely zero idea what it was.
Speaker 1:Um, they did not. They did not do a good job communicating their rebranding. I can definitely say that it was rough, half-baked ideas. It's gotten a lot smooth out now, um, because they are also doing that.
Speaker 1:Not only am I someone who's used patreon on both sides for a long time, but I was really trying to beef up my patreon. I was like what is happening? But the free thing? I saw people signing up. I don't even know what it is, I don't know what they're signing up for, I don't even know what they see when they're signing up. Um, and I was just kind of like I've been trying to find ways to turn it off because I feel bad people are signing up for a thing that, like I don't even know what's there.
Speaker 1:But his talk was very interesting because he probably should have maybe included this when they did the rebrand, but he sort of helped contextualize it a bit where it's like these are people who like what you make. They like it so much that they want to go an extra step and support or connect or be involved, like they want to take it one step further support or connect or be involved, like they want to take it one step further, for whatever reason. They're not at a point where they're ready or able to pay any extra money for that, but they want that extra connection and I was like, okay, when you put it like that, this is really cool. And now I'm really happy that patreon's been letting people join this thing for the past few months, because it's like that is a group of people who have opted into a thing like signing up voluntarily for a mailing list. It's like that. Like you actually want more. So if I were to share something, you probably wouldn't hate it and I still don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1:But because my new setup is so easy to make stuff, now just an hour ago before this I just recorded a quick little thing kind of explaining that Like I'm really glad you're here, Don't know what to do with this. I think there's some cool features. If you see cool features, try them out. I'll try them out, We'll figure it out together. Hopefully I can share some cool stuff with you and we'll figure it out together, which is kind of a fun way of like let's explore this together. I make stuff. You like what I make. I'm happy you're here. You've chosen to be here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like collaborative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's kind of. I think it has the potential to be fun. And to back up Jack's point, I posted that video and literally less than a minute later someone had already replied to it, someone had already seen it Like and just yesterday someone from the free tier did upgrade to a paid tier, to my highest paid tier, to my highest paid tier, which he said there's. There's some track record of like I forget what the the statistics are people who join the free and then eventually, like they do intend to buy or pay or do something later on not obviously not that that's required, but that was but it's important he was talking about.
Speaker 3:I saw happening in real time it's important to keep in mind that there is value in people who want to support what you do.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And they can't if you don't provide the avenues for them to do that, and it doesn't even have to be.
Speaker 1:it does not have to be giving dollars.
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1:Giving time, giving attention, giving whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the fact that people press that extra button on the thing that you make Right Is pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Dave Dan is here. Hi everyone. 101 Creator Lab. Hello from Ohio Path of.
Speaker 2:Totality.
Speaker 3:Just found you guys researching the Roadcaster Duo. Just pulled the trigger on an open box.
Speaker 1:Thanks, Well, there you go. I've used mine on three different projects today Call an open box.
Speaker 3:Thanks. I've used mine on three different projects today. Call me Covey in the house. Happy Friday. Matt's got to go think about what to do Activities 40 is a big one.
Speaker 1:Your parents celebrated their 40th a couple of years ago, which is crazy Andre's here.
Speaker 3:Hi everyone. Yeah, so that Jack video if you haven't got a chance to check it out, I think it's. I mentioned this on the YouTube huddle. I think it's worth a watch for anyone who is doing or plans to do YouTube seriously and honestly, just content creation in general, seriously, more than just, like you know, more than just like a funsies thing, like if you.
Speaker 3:I think it's important to understand the landscape of the follower experience, the viewer experience, the community experience, because, of course, like you're on the creator side, so understanding how all these different like platforms change and and how, like you know, the tech companies in the, in the platforms kind of have no idea what's going on, um, and and nor do they realize the impact that they they make. But but I do think it is going in a in a good direction. I think, like it's like the pendulum's waiting, like we went that way, then we went back this way and then now I think we're we're trying to figure out a middle ground yeah and I think that's what this year is going to be so that's a cool thing yeah, so definitely go give it a watch if you haven't already.
Speaker 3:It's a little bit long, uh, but watch it in 2x.
Speaker 1:That's what I did or just you're watching pieces or listen to why you're doing something else, or whatever rainy occasiony Cajun Tom, you and your shotgun mics, I don't have too many shotgun mics. How many do you have? Like two, maybe three?
Speaker 3:That's great, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I really like this one. It's such an underrated one.
Speaker 3:Is that the blue one?
Speaker 1:No, that one I didn't own. That was the one. Well.
Speaker 3:I thought it was just that, but just blue. No, because that was a $2,400 one.
Speaker 1:This is a $240.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's a different zero there, yeah it's a different zero.
Speaker 1:Hey Audio Hotline's here he let me know before that he wasn't going to make it and I said we were going to say nothing but terrible things about him. Like he's too darn nice, he's too handsome.
Speaker 3:Wow, his channel is too well produced I am trying to look at what we were going to talk about today, right?
Speaker 1:yeah. So I was kind of blast, shotgun, blasting through, sort of like ah, did this, that the other thing because, yeah, you have a cool list of things over there and you and I have had some really cool just talks about on our own about this sort of stuff this week and it's been really fun. I think you've made some pretty big breakthroughs. I've gotten some insight from you and your breakthroughs have also been like really inspiring and motivating to me oh, look at that so those are fun things that's wonderful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, are there things that you, you can share, that you can remember to share? I feel like we talked so much this week.
Speaker 1:We talk a lot, I know.
Speaker 3:Obviously we talk like every freaking day, but I mean, like you know, creator stuff specifically.
Speaker 1:I mean, a lot of it is process-based and realizing what your our, what an individual creative process is like and what that means in terms of things that may appear as uncertainty or even insecurity, and how it relates to the process, which I know sounds vague, but I'm sure that's something that's on the list to talk about yeah, okay, so let's jump into it.
Speaker 3:I want to share three big revelations I came to this week.
Speaker 1:Sweet.
Speaker 3:And it took forever. It's kind of crazy because did you know that in less than two weeks it's going to be my eight year anniversary on YouTube? That's crazy. Eight years since I pushed upload on mean I'd uploaded videos before right to. You know, share with friends, but this one was like hi youtube you're not using it as google drive. Yeah, yeah exactly like I'm vlogging. You know eight years that's a long time.
Speaker 1:That's a long what do? You think you would have thought?
Speaker 3:what do you think your eight years ago self would think about, like oh, I'll be so freaking happy, like the fact that I the fact that it worked. God, I had no idea what I was doing and I just loved. I never gave up and I just kept going. I know, six months that was the time frame I gave myself like I'll just figure this out in six months and, if not, go back to work.
Speaker 1:No, big deal seven and a half years ago, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness. So like it's, like, it's really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I really should. I want to acknowledge, like how happy I am and how proud I am Because it's been an insane eight years. But anyway, my point is that I can't believe I'm realizing these three things right before my eight year. You always yawn during the couple table. You know why?
Speaker 1:because you didn't take a nap no, I took my nap already no, you know why, and I don't know what this is. I have a thing when I'm listening actively, I yawn and it drives me nuts, and it's been my whole life.
Speaker 1:We never get oxygen pumped in here or something I know it, like in previous jobs I've had where I'm like you don't yawn when you listen to me it's like the thing I can think of is on my first day of different jobs, where people are explaining stuff like one was working at a tv station editing. I couldn't be more interested and I was just like I couldn't stop.
Speaker 1:And it's like I'm not even tired, I just can't stop yawning uh kane says dying to find out the mystery mic oh, uh, I that video is coming out next thursday and I think the mic will be released by then. But fortunately a very cool thing, the company that makes the mystery mic. They don't care about embargo wave videos and stuff. There's like it comes out on this date. Do what you want anytime after that, which is sweet awesome.
Speaker 3:Okay, so the three revelations. Uh, the first one okay, so this one I actually just realized like 10 minutes ago oh okay, right like right before.
Speaker 3:I told you as I walked in here, um, and this one's kind of a uh, not that big of a deal, but it's a big deal to me because, um, you always say this like it's important to to like watch things, consume things, read things, watch other people's content, uh, and then obviously you will gravitate to the things that you like yes, right, and then that can inspire you and your own creative process. But the thing that you always remind me is that I can have the opposite reaction of like, oh, I don't like that. And then I don't like talking about it because I feel like I'm judging them, or I I feel like, you know, I don't, I don't want to judge someone else's content, I don't want to make it seem like I feel like I'm better than them because they do it that way and I don't like that way, or whatever new. I say it's important to know what you like and also what you don't like yeah, it's not even about them.
Speaker 1:It's about you just figuring out I never like, because then you don't? You want to figure out why you don't like? Yeah, it's not even about them. It's about you just figuring out I never like because then you don't. You want to figure out why you don't like it, so then you don't do it I know, but it's like I think this is just a personal thing yeah, it's not an objective right or wrong. It doesn't mean they need to stop doing what they're doing yeah, but it's, it's been.
Speaker 3:It's something where I just feel it I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't like that and I don't know why, but I feel like it. I have attached it as a personal thing Until 10 minutes before the couples table started, because I started watching this video and it's an interview by Dan Mace, who used to work with Casey Neistat on his vlogs, and, if you don't know, casey Neistat is my hero. He's the reason why I started vlogging eight years ago, because it was 2016. That's what a lot of people were doing, but Sorry, there's some background noise.
Speaker 3:Okay, so here's what's happening. This is literally happening. Oh my God, you're going to gonna make everybody sorry I didn't know where he was.
Speaker 1:I was doing backwards there are you ready?
Speaker 3:yeah this is under tom's chair.
Speaker 3:He's just oh, that is your hairy leg oh, my hairy hand oh, here's my leg anyway, anyway, um, yeah, so I I think I think the reason why I just don't want to say it is because I you know how it is on social media and like content creation and I just don't. I feel like it can. I have heard people talk crap about other people's content and other people's creative process and it can go there very quickly, and so I just don't say anything, like I don't want, I don't want anyone, I don't want to make anyone feel bad, you know, and I don't want to judge you for the way that you're going to do something or whatever, so I just don't say anything. Until I was watching this video. It's an interview with dan mace and he was talking about what it was like to work with casey and casey's process.
Speaker 3:Again, casey is my hero and the way that dan described it, the whole freaking time, I was just like, oh, my god, that's terrible, it's awful. Like I don't ever want to do that, it's physically impossible for me to do that. Like total aversion. I was just like, oh, that's so disgusting. Like honestly, um, but I'm happy about it because it's casey, it's someone that I admire, it's someone who has been a constant source of inspiration for me. So now I have the validation of oh, it's not personal, it's like. Oh, it is, it is like preference, it's style. Yeah, just because I don't like your work doesn't mean I don't like you, you know, and I just I just want to put this out there so that, if I don't know, someone ever heard me say, oh, I don't like that. It's not that I don't like you, it's just I am. I am filtering it of like oh, I, I I'm inspired by this and I don't like that. I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:It does make sense. I think that's a. I think that's an important it's a big one for me it's a very important one to focus on because you're you're not judging the person you're not judging anything. You're just being critical of the process or the content or whatever, but it's not the person, it's not like yes you know, and that that's. It's hard to sometimes separate the creator from the thing they make right, of course, because it's you, you know.
Speaker 3:Of course we create, we create.
Speaker 1:We are making stuff that only we feel very personal, so of course it so of course it feels personal, yeah, but it's just.
Speaker 3:I'm so glad that, like I have this, because now I will latch on to this forever. And if someone ever was like oh you know, whatever, I would be like no, because I don't like the way that Casey does things.
Speaker 1:And I love Casey. Yeah, I mean absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 3:There you go, that's a big one, ernesto, is here Hi. Tom and Heather. Happy Friday. The King is here, oh shit. Hey guys, first timer, really enjoy your content. Getting ready to retire and start film production company Short Films Learned so much from both of you, thank you.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Well, congrats on retirement and good luck with the production company.
Speaker 3:And thanks for being here. Okay, so that's the first revelation that's a good one.
Speaker 1:I like that. I need to watch it because I'm very curious, because I remember watching Casey's channel when Dan became a part of it and then Dan was not a part of it and I was very curious what was going on behind the scenes there yeah, okay, so number two.
Speaker 3:I can't even read my oh okay. So yeah, this one's the best, the big one wait, what is it? Go heather.
Speaker 1:One of my best friends told me that the other about me I'm guessing, like the other day, about him, like probably they like him, but we don't like the, the process, or vice versa. Well, that'd be bad. I love your process, but I don't like you.
Speaker 3:I guess you could learn something from someone you don't like as well well, okay, so here's an example. Like mr beast I feel, like we like always say, we always talk about mr beast as if he's like the most wrong person or like the. It's just that's an approach that I don't like, but yes, it's just an approach I don't like but we always say, we always refer to mr beast as the example, like here's exactly what we don't like, but I'm glad I could be like.
Speaker 1:It's not him he's not doing anything wrong yeah well, no, he's not doing anything wrong, it's just not not my thing yeah, anyway, okay.
Speaker 3:So here's the big one.
Speaker 3:This one is is I don't even know how I came to this realization, but, um, throughout this eight-year journey of being a youtube creator, the thing about how I create on youtube is that I started out with vlogs and, even though it's not vlog content in terms of like a Casey vlog where they I put the camera down and you see me walking to the camera and there's all these cuts and you know, you see what I'm doing a day in the life kind of a situation. I'm still sharing my thoughts, I'm sharing my life, I'm sharing uh, you know things that I'm going through, and that has been true since day one where I said I'm about to to quit my job and figure out doing content creation.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even a word back then.
Speaker 3:But you know, figure out how to do YouTube, and the whole time during my eight years. Well, at the very beginning the thing is I didn't know anything about anything. I had absolutely no idea. I know nothing about anything.
Speaker 1:I had absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3:I know nothing about nothing and so I just made and it was so. It was the loneliest I've ever been in my life. I just felt like no one could understand what the hell I was doing. I didn't know any other content creators, um, and when I met them, I was so fun, it was like I latched on to them because it was like, oh, someone who?
Speaker 3:gets it speaks my language yeah, but I I felt so alone and when people start, when I started meeting people and they would see what I did, I got a lot of advice and and the thing is, I had my vlog but it was me documenting my journey and starting a business. I didn't realize that it was going to completely be one in the same. To me it was kind of separate. Here's me starting a business and I'm going to talk about it on this vlog. I didn't realize it was going to be the same on this vlog. Yeah, I didn't realize it was going to be the same. Um, and so I would share everything about like, how to buy a domain, you know, or what to name the freaking company and printing out business cards and, um, you know, going to networking events and talking about my business and and just like navigating all of that which, as soon as you share anything about your life online, people that's the online share alarm people will have um the opinions, opinions.
Speaker 3:People will have opinions, um about how're doing things, what you should do. You know the best way to approach things, and it's especially when it comes to like honestly, I really do think that the fact that I was a young woman made it worse.
Speaker 3:Oh oh, in terms of people telling people, feeling that they, they needed to tell me how to do it, which, like the thing is, like everyone always came from a place of care. Like they, they, they felt like they were helping, which, you know, I appreciate. Like I appreciate the care, and so I always made vlogs where I'm like I don't know what to do, like I don't know, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do, like I don't know what to do why. I bet me saying that is in every single video, and even when I moved in with Tom, even, you know, even my last video like it's just me figuring things out. That that's always how it's been.
Speaker 3:The thing that I realized is me figuring it out, me second guessing myself, me self doubting, me feeling like I don't know what to do and then vocalizing. It is actually my creative process. Like it might, it's weird, because you can look at a painter and you can see them make the first stroke and the second stroke and the third stroke, and when you see them approach a blank canvas, that's you know it's white, it's blank and you see them make the first couple of strokes, you don't know what the hell they're making right, like you don't know that it could be a river, it could be a cityscape, it could be a tree, you, you don't. You can't tell by the first brushstrokes. And, honestly, like they probably have a vision in their head but as they're going it'll change, right, and then the final version ends up being the final version For me.
Speaker 3:My strokes are me sitting here like I don't know what to do. Maybe I should try that, maybe I should try that. Oh, but that didn't work. Like, oh, what if I do this? What if I do that? Well, I'm not really sure and I mistook that second guessing as naivete, like I don't know what I'm doing Right. And then, well, obviously other people did too, because I'm literally saying I don't know what I'm doing and I don't regret anything.
Speaker 3:But there are so many things that ended up setting me on this completely wild goose chase, you know to, because I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 3:So, for example, there is a women's business center here, local to us, and, if you know, it's to support new female entrepreneurs in opening businesses that are local right, so that you can you can join a cohort and they put you through a boot camp of, like, how to write a business plan, how to do marketing, how to do your numbers and your finances and you know how to do bookkeeping and accounting and how to make a business card, how to you know you have to make a presentation about your business and you you have to do, you have to do a pitch and stuff like that, and it's just so. It was a fantastic program. I met incredible women who I'm still friends with today and I definitely don't regret the experience, but I'm not really sure how I and I definitely don't regret the experience, but I'm not really sure how I got it in my head that I needed a business plan in the freaking first place for a business that is constantly changing. Like, do you have a business plan?
Speaker 1:I just plan to keep doing business.
Speaker 3:Did you ever have a business plan?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, but for some reason, like I think, because I kept saying I don't know what I'm doing well as soon as you say I don't know someone will say you should yes, and I and I listened, and then now I'm doing this program that like I don't long, yeah, literally like six months long, uh, when I could have been just making videos, you know. And again I don't regret anything. But like now I know I, I have come to the realization that if I ever second get, well, when I second guess myself or I feel insecure or I feel, uh, like I'm doubting myself, I just feel confused. That's normal, that's my normal state of creating. Yes, and I, if I just trust myself to to do what I do, I will, it will come to me.
Speaker 3:Right, that sounds naive, it sounds optimistic, it sounds like that's not a plan, right, like someone's going to hear this and be like, well, you know, what's your input, what's your output? Like, how much are you going to make? What are you selling, how much does it cost? Like you know, I can't answer any of those things and I don't know. My process has gotten me this this far and so I really want to just trust myself, to know that I'm not gonna let myself fail. I'll figure it out and I I've gotten this far just doing my thing, and I know that everyone has always just been trying to help, but it's just nice to have the realization of like, even though it might feel um rocky and in like unstable. That's the fun part, like that's me doing work, that's me painting my brush strokes. So just be patient. Like enjoy it. Yeah, because that's me painting.
Speaker 1:That makes sense it does and I can see you trying to hold back a yawn no, well that my yawns mean nothing, nothing to do with my energy level or interest level. It's just a weird thing. Um no, but I was glancing at the comments as you're talking and I feel like I feel like what you're saying is an important thing, not only for you to recognize and share, but is not? You're not the only one who feels that way and it I get like.
Speaker 1:The concrete example I was giving yesterday when we were talking about this was I used to be a sign artist at Trader Joe's when I was in college Grocery store used to make signs which some of them could be really big, like many feet by many feet, would take a couple of days to work on. It's almost like a big mural and I would, you know I'd have stuff outlined, I'd be testing things. You're talking about painting. This is literally that. You know there's lettering, there's images, there's all this stuff, and sometimes I'd have like this letter would be a color, see what looks good and what's readable from far away. And you know this is the base layer, but it doesn't have the finishing like cleanup or shadows or whatever.
Speaker 1:But if I'm spending hours or a couple of days on a thing and someone walks in at hour three and they just see kind of chaos. There's a lot of you shoulds that pop up, you should do this, you should make this this color, you should do that. And it always drove me crazy because it was like I am, but I'm not there yet. And if I had, just if I had, taken every bit of advice that every random person who walked by you shoulded me about, I would end up with a thing that was just illegible and nonsensical. And it's like, and was definitely. I guess even if it were legible, even if it were sensical, it was not the thing that I intended to make. And that's the hard part is like. It's not like don't take advice or don't listen to anybody, but it's the thing of I'm sharing my process, this is my process. Even if you're welcoming other people into your process, you're the one with the compass kind of leading the way Right.
Speaker 3:So that's the thing. Like I don't, I I would say 99.9% of the people that I have met over the course of the eight years of doing YouTube has only given me advice because they care, you know, because they believe in me, which is wonderful, Like that's I. I'm lucky that you see something in me where you feel like you can help. The thing that I want to realize now is I don't it's not that I want to stop getting advice. Like you know, there there have I've gotten a lot of advice that has worked. Like I really needed to hear that, you know, and and whenever someone like says something, it always like propels my thought to a different thing, and I always see that, you know, I want to see things from a different perspective. So it's like it's not that I don't want advice.
Speaker 3:The thing that I want to remember is that just because I'm feeling, just because I'm questioning myself, doesn't mean that I don't have the answer. I probably like I have the answer. It will happen. The second guessing is just the paint strokes. You know what I mean. So it's I don't want to come off as ungrateful for all these people who've, you know, been supporting me this whole time. It's not that. It's just that I mistook my self-doubt for naivete. I didn't realize that my self-doubt was just me painting right that's the part right.
Speaker 3:So give me advice all day.
Speaker 1:But now I know, right, like I have, I'm the one with the damn compass yeah, you need to be able to keep your direction and then you can incorporate or not things that come along the way, but if you're not holding your compass, then you're going to get pushed over here. And you're going to get pushed over here. Do you know how many times like?
Speaker 3:I cannot tell you how many vlogs I've made of just like confusion, like I have a vlog I haven't watched in a while, but I I am having a full-on panic attack and I, for some reason, in that moment, I was like grab the camera. This is crazy.
Speaker 1:Content creator blood runs deep.
Speaker 3:But just like there's so many times where you can see me just do this, like I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, and I just I'm sad that I didn't realize that was me creating, you know that's not a fault.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was so hard on myself, but it's like I think, as a creator, especially a digital creator, right, it's like it all happens in here before it happens on the timeline. You know, like in order to create what you only you can create, you have to mull things over. You have to mull things over, you have to go through the world, you need to have your own experiences and then you can start to, you know, put your footage in the timeline or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:You know, figure out how you're going to say things and why you're going to say things and to who you're going to say things, and all those things. And I said things I don't know Anyway. So let's check in with the comments because, um, yeah, jfk in the house. Hello, rim jam is here. Also, the king heather, you are touching on everything I'm thinking about. I really don't know what to do. Just waiting through sounds so familiar. Yes, I, I mean, I think that's it. It's like me second guessing myself, felt like I was waiting in the water, like I was about to drown, but I didn't realize. Think that's it. It's like me second guessing myself, felt like I was waiting in the water, like I was about to drown, but I didn't realize. Like that's my pain strokes. It's not actually waiting through the water.
Speaker 1:It's like You're doing exactly I'm splattering paint.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, like that. That is me doing the thing.
Speaker 1:It's just not a painting yet, because you haven't finished it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, painting yet because you haven't finished it. Yeah, uh, gil says, the opinions really still bother me a little. Even my friend, she cares about me, but she hates me. Creating work for clients on my youtube content yeah, that's hard. That's hard. I don't even know how to yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 1:It's. That's hard. I mean that's the opposite of yeah, that is kind of the opposite of what we're saying. Like you like the oh no, no, you like the person, but you don't like the content. You could like the content, not like the person, I don't know. I mean it's. It's hard to explain to someone why something like this would matter to you if they don't right understand it for themselves and I think maybe exactly maybe getting to a point where it, like it's not my job to make them understand, is a good place to be, that like they don't have to understand, they don't have to get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's fine they're not doing it. That's fine, yeah.
Speaker 1:If you want to go.
Speaker 3:If you don't like it, then go make your own thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's hard. If you're somebody kind of like us, who seeks to be understood, seeks to contextualize, seeks to connect and maybe has people-pleasing tendencies, it's hard to leave that. It's hard to go. This person has the wrong impression, this person doesn't understand and I'm just going to leave it. Yeah, they just have to not understand. It feels very uncomfortable to do.
Speaker 3:That, Rim Gem says. Relating to what Heather is saying so much, I feel like figuring it out is part of the fun but can also come with its struggles. Andre says the residual knowledge from doing that course might actually have provided knowledge and skills not directly relevant, but still useful. The business plan itself might be less useful than the process very true totally vault.
Speaker 3:The robot is here, greetings humans. Uh, tech drama maker says to hear folks talk. We are experts on how to fix others problems. It is better to empathize rather than offering advice, but wanting to help is natural.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, even yesterday you were kind of working through uh sort of a tricky situation. You're asking me, like what do I do? And I was like I have the opinion of what you should do, but I'm I'm hesitant to give you this opinion because I don't think I could do it if I were in your shoes like it's what I'll tell you to do, but I don't think I could do it, so should I even be telling you to do it right?
Speaker 3:mr camera junkie in the house, what's up? Hey andre says sometimes one has to move in the wrong direction, doing wrong things, to figure out the right direction. Even the wrong direction might provide useful experiences. Yep facts. This tech troublemaker says while it may seem painful, it is your creative process. Yeah, the thing is like. I think I made it painful I mean I I think, like, because obviously like, if you see someone who looks like they need help, why wouldn't you help them?
Speaker 1:like that's horrible right like, and also with no guidance or instruction, going from a very traditional role and background to this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know what I was feeling. Yeah, it's like you're giving me an answer somewhere you know.
Speaker 1:And there are no answers.
Speaker 3:Exactly, heather is us. Jfk says. You can tell that I like podcasts when I choose to have it on in the shower. That's the best, oh my God. I choose to have it on in the shower. That's the best, oh my God. I used to listen. I still have Casey's videos like playing while I was getting ready in the bathroom.
Speaker 1:Gary Vee while I was in the shower. I just remember as a kid we had the shower radio that hangs on the shower head.
Speaker 3:Oh, that was like the coolest thing ever Fuzzy FM music. That's funny. Yeah, so that's funny. Um, yeah, so, um, I wanted to share a little bit. I want to share this video because tom and I watched this a few days ago because it just popped up. It popped up on my feed, which is bizarre, um, but this video is from april 23, 2017, very early on, but um a year into me doing and I must have watched that in july or august of 2017 yeah, we met shortly after, yeah, a couple months after, yeah, um, but I just I like this video because it's just so well done.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 3:I freaking love it and I can't believe that for the next seven years I went to go. I went on to question myself and my sanity and like whether I'm good enough to do this every single freaking day, you know. Like whether I'm good enough to do this every single freaking day, you know. But now that I know that me questioning is just my creative process, like now it's like I know it's not a painful process, like it really is just the way that I see it. But anyway, I wanted to show evidence of like man, if I had just done my thing, I could have kept doing stuff like this. Okay, you ready. Um, we're gonna see if this has audio.
Speaker 3:I don't know yeah, I'm watching all right, here we go it does.
Speaker 2:This is the day you got your open eye through the waves cut through me, hypnotized by the sounds I'm breathing in. Hold tight, hold tight. Chemicals collide. Hold tight, hold tight, hold tight. Dripping lights paint the skies All because of you.
Speaker 1:Dripping lights paint the skies, only you. I love my hair in this part. That was a good transition, like a purple trash can over there. All right, then I go on to uh just have fun. But like cool, though right here is the exact. Is that exact board?
Speaker 3:is that mine? Yeah, oh yeah, that's the board, that's cool who would have thought, all those the? Crazy part. There's so many crazy things. But like, uh, there's no way at that point I could have justified a what is it? 1300 electric skateboard. Like that is not what I should have been spending money on. That is insane, right. Like I don't, don't. I think I had to do a lot of Postmates to make that money. Okay, like it was just not. Like if I wrote that business plan and there's a line, item that was like $1,300 boosted board.
Speaker 3:You know everyone would have told me hell, no. Who would have said yes? Like nobody. And it's just like just the storytelling of like putting it on the floor, standing on it for the first time, the framing of it, and like being unsteady, and then all the way to the climax of like here I am skating on it having a great time. Um, I don't know, I'm just like, I'm so happy about it. The thing is okay.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, there's a whole sequence of like this is what endeared you to me um, the whole the, the thing, right, the thing that you can't put in the business plan is there's one person who saw this video that changed my life forever, as this guy, that guy, that guy saw it and then Because I was also looking to be slightly irresponsible and spend too much money on an electric skateboard.
Speaker 1:That guy saw it. I didn't know, I didn't have a place to ride it.
Speaker 3:I didn't know right. And then so you can say, like why the hell are you spending money on this? Why are you skateboarding in an alley right now? Like you should be working, you should be doing stuff. Like there's just so many things that I feel like people would have said, like that this is wrong, and it kind of felt like I was doing something wrong, but I I was just having too much fun to care, so I was just doing my thing and I could not have predicted that like the right person would have seen it and we would have become you know, we'd get married. But but fromstrokes, like those things where I'm just like doing my thing, like I use this as an example because it was so early on, where I don't think I was second guessing myself as much, because I, you didn't know any better.
Speaker 3:I didn't know any better and I was doing something similar to the people I admire, like casey, so it felt right.
Speaker 3:but then I got mixed up in the business world of like here's how small business works, here's how marketing works, here's how, like you know, this is how you should be doing it right and then I stepped away from that and started to oh, maybe I should come out with an online course and do a marketing funnel and email marketing and you know all the things you're supposed to be doing and build up a tutorial channel where you have a funnel and you know a freaking webinar and the whole thing. And I, you know, I don't again. I don't regret anything and I'm really proud of everything I've made, but it's I'm very excited to have come to this revelation so that whenever I feel like I'm doing something wrong, I'm actually working and that's a big one yeah talk about it.
Speaker 1:I can see the weight like in your shoulders like if I don't know, what I'm doing.
Speaker 3:That's okay, because I'm working like I've actually that's me working yes yeah, that's a big one yeah and your natural way of doing things, so I'm gonna just like pop over.
Speaker 1:I think it's this one here, so you didn't know any better. You just made the video that you could make on an outsider perspective.
Speaker 3:I didn't know you what's it okay, so here's the camera I used yeah, I didn't know her.
Speaker 1:This was the first video I saw. I was just looking up boosted boards right at the time, 2016 boosted boards. You're seeing a lot of casey clones. It's a lot of dudes who are just making casey videos and I clicked on yours and I'm not gonna lie one thing that that a lot of guys at the time did with their boosted board videos they put their girlfriends on it oh the girlfriend had no idea what it was, wasn't interested in it. But you you know you put a cute girl in the thing scantily clad and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I clicked on the video and I was curious. I was like, okay, the channel name is a girl's name. There's a girl in the thumbnail. Is this just a dude putting his girlfriend on a skateboard and like, or is this insight? And it was actual insight. And on top of that, it would it this whole part here. Is you like the whole beginning of the video? Is her in her apartment like waiting for the ups guy? And then it's. It's a whole montage. You're you're like talking to the camera about how excited you are. You're like checking the tracking. Look at this. You're you're so whatever. And then it finally comes and this is the oh. I can't get over there oh yeah, turn up yes look how casual she's like oh, what?
Speaker 1:like, oh yeah, hi, what's up? Thank you so much. And then you get in where you can't see and now you get all dancey and stuff that there's no reason really to include that in this video, but that that is the thing that hooked me, because I am the person who would check my tracking. I am the person who's peeking outside. I'm the person who would check my tracking. I am the person who's peeking outside.
Speaker 1:I'm the person who sees the UPS truck pull up and sees the guy just like then sit on his phone for a while, then go in the back and dig with the packages and then walk up and wait until he like well, actually leaves the thing and walks away Unless I have to sign for it and then goes and gets it. But if I encounter them, it is like, oh yeah, thanks so much, appreciate it. But if I encounter them, it is like, oh yeah, thanks so much, I appreciate it. Whatever Haven't been totally waiting for this day and night for like days at a time now, and that was where I was like I connect with this person, like it took something, where I felt that maybe, like it was for people who were cooler than me. I wasn't cool enough to have a boosted board.
Speaker 2:I wasn't cool Because all these other, like all the other vlog bros who are just like yeah, dude, I don't know about this but then when I see someone, who's literally like.
Speaker 1:I bought the thing, I ordered it. I'm nervous about it, I'm excited about it, I'm getting it. I don't even know how it turns on. I don't even think I knew this well, that's what I wanted to tell, and you know like literally it's you.
Speaker 2:Then, sorry, I forgot we aren't on the screen, share there um, it's literally you like what does it look like?
Speaker 1:you're not even on it and you're just showing like how fast it goes. And then you get on it, you feel what it feels like and you're trying to figure out like how long does the battery last, and all that kind of stuff. That's when I was like this is me and that's super cute and that that's where, then, I I trusted the video. I like the video, and then when the next video pops up that has something interesting, then I'm going to watch it, which led to this right now.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 1:See, but you know there's a very good chance that had you. I don't know had you taken that video on your I don't know how big your channel was at the time.
Speaker 3:I don't either.
Speaker 1:I mean under a thousand subscribers.
Speaker 3:I really have no idea. Okay, under a thousand subscribers?
Speaker 1:I really have no idea okay, let's say you're under a thousand subscribers. You want to make this video. You take this video to someone maybe some pro youtuber at the time and you're like, or just some advisor, and you're like, okay, what do I put in here? They're probably going to say, cut out most of the things that I connected with right, yeah but your natural impulse was to include all that stuff that wasn't in any of the other videos I saw.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So not only did it, also then made me order. I ordered the boar, did you?
Speaker 3:use the affiliate link. I don't think I had an affiliate link. I don't even know.
Speaker 1:I don't try to know what that was, because I was not logged in or I was not subscribed to YouTube channels, really at the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you left your first YouTube comment ever on my video. Yeah, yeah at the time. Um yeah, you left your first youtube comment ever on my video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's the level of like when you just doing what you do right and see it like goes back to everything like I had watched youtube for like since youtube started and never left a comment on the video who's watching?
Speaker 3:man, you never knew the one view is gonna be, and so it's like I don't. It's like I don't just have fun, just have fun because just do it your way yeah you know, like it doesn't.
Speaker 1:This is a naturally fun topic, but sometimes people, the thing they're sharing isn't a fun topic. But you can still do it your way yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm when I say like just have fun, I'm talking to myself, right, like I'm telling myself just have fun, just embrace the process, like Like trust yourself, you got it, because look at this, seven years ago you were making fire content. Yo Like just go.
Speaker 1:Fire content yo.
Speaker 3:Just go Sorry.
Speaker 1:I just think I need to. Oh, here's.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, we got to show the. Oh, it's not going. Oh, because mine's on. Oh, let's do yours first. Okay, well, here's the camera I used. You want to switch it? This is my canon s110. Look at this point and shoot. This is all. I had this on a freaking joey gorilla pod no flippy screen, no mic attachment. Yeah, I couldn't even see what I was shooting. I just kind of just aimed it, it was. This is still my favorite camera, like it's just the best but that's what I used.
Speaker 3:That came out like 10 years ago and then it was see, and then I went on. Then I went on like oh, everyone's doing coffee b-roll my, my rig is so much smaller. I need to figure out how to use f stops and apertures and I need the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm doing it wrong I'm doing it wrong because everyone else is doing it this way and I'm not doing this way. And then I, then I, then what? What is this? What ends up happening is because I can't make the content that everyone else is, I don't make content at all, I get stuck, I just, I just.
Speaker 1:I don't have the compulsion to make anything anymore, because, yeah and when you were in the like I'm doing wrong and you're in the mindset that you were in in this video, you would never get stuck because, yeah, because.
Speaker 3:I don't know any better, I'm just doing, I'm just.
Speaker 1:I don't know Doing your thing.
Speaker 3:Doing my thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the best place to be.
Speaker 3:Yeah, do you want to show the fin pin?
Speaker 1:Oh sure I couldn't get the camera, I would just he's just cute, that's all Okay, I don't know, oh, there you go. This is through. So, yeah, okay here. So here's the prompter, here's the screen and then back there there's a little sleepy time, but look how he's like smushed around this pillow there and then right through here the whole time. I'm just seeing this.
Speaker 3:Finley Hi Fin through here the whole time. I'm just seeing this finley hi finn. Oh, he's so cute. Oh, what a sweetheart. Anyway, let's check in with the comments. Hello, hello. Uh, where did we leave off? Right around here um, dave den says, yeah, some of us like to tell people to do not that we would do it ourselves 100 tech control maker says casey would like to buy your board if it still works. I would not be able to ride and film at the same time, uh because casey was buying up.
Speaker 1:He was, he did. He had a video a while ago where he he figured like how many, how long a boosted board lasts him and how many he needs for the rest of his life. And he was trying to buy up the remaining stock of boosted boards to keep him going, so he has one forever, because the company's not around anymore.
Speaker 3:Best ROI on that vid.
Speaker 1:That's me.
Speaker 3:Vault. The Robot says everything about that. Video is wonderful. Sometimes you just need to lean into the play and toss the business one.
Speaker 1:Thousand percent.
Speaker 3:Tarot Destroyer says yeah, some of us like to tell people what to do, not that we would do it ourselves.
Speaker 1:It's easy to tell other people what to do, and it could be the correct thing, like oh, you need to do blah, blah, blah, blah, xyz, here's your problem, here's here's your problem. Here's a solution. I can see the step, but it's very different when you're the one that has to take those steps well, this is a good segue into my third revelation.
Speaker 3:So we're gonna remember. I'm actually gonna star your comment, tarot destroyer. We're gonna come back to that. Uh, the opinions really still bother me a little. Even my friend. She cares about me, but she's pretty good wait, this is gill yeah, I feel like we just read this.
Speaker 1:We did.
Speaker 3:What is happening?
Speaker 1:I don't know if Gil changed accounts or something happened here.
Speaker 3:Gil, didn't you just say this?
Speaker 1:He did, but now it's on a different account with a different profile picture and for some reason the name is also a different font.
Speaker 3:So I'm confused. I'm confused yeah andre business plan one make business card. Two buy electric skateboard. And three get the boyfriend, future husband, and four make newsletter make newsletter? Yeah, pretty much erin short music is here. Hi, I ordered the Elgato prompter after seeing your review. Can't wait to try it.
Speaker 1:Hope you like it. I mean, we each have one of our own now. Part of me has thought about getting a second one for my desk setup now, because I have my filming area and my desk area. I'm currently moving my camera back and forth. I'm like what if? What if I didn't move it back and forth? What if I just had a desk camera with the prompter on it all the time and then I had a prompter for when I'm filming all the time?
Speaker 3:yeah, I don't know I mean you did in your uh studio we had three, yeah, three or four uh ups guy story me when my a7 four or a couple years ago, calm and collected, signing for it. The second, I closed the door, dancing around the house, and I can't dance.
Speaker 1:You can only imagine sure they, I'm sure they all hear this, like they know, they know.
Speaker 3:Well, that's why I don't write it yeah, well, just like come on, man, you, you're literally santa claus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like all year and they sometimes they can tell what they're delivering. A couple years ago, fedex came delivering my American Precision Base that I ordered, and he knew it's from Sweetwater, it's clearly a thing or whatever. And the FedEx I came and dropped I had to sign for it. Oh, but he even asked you right. He was like, hey, can I ask you what it is? And I was like, oh, it's a P-Base. And he was like, oh sweet, I ordered one.
Speaker 3:And he was like a thing a while ago and it was really fun. Mr Camera Junkie, just documenting, not overthinking. Yeah, I'm excited. Gil's murder account.
Speaker 1:I'm wondering is this like a troll spam account? Yeah, I'm confused. I didn't know if Gil had a second account we don't know about and he was accidentally logged in there.
Speaker 3:No, I feel like your comments are being copied and posted.
Speaker 1:I was worried that someone took Gil's account and did something weird, because Sammy was talking about his account getting messed with. I know, All this stuff.
Speaker 3:Obs is here. Hey, obs, good to see you. I've been doing videos that involve a lot of green lately and I keep thinking about you and Tom's shocker mic sounds great. It's all because of you, buddy. Okay, going back up to the starred comment no, because it was, I want to use like the original one. I think it might have been tech troublemaker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look see, isn't that crazy yeah, okay, we can see in ecam we can see two accounts with the same thing, so it's like that other one just took gill's account, that's so weird?
Speaker 3:are you confused as to what is happening? Um well, anyway, so the the the comment was uh, people, people like to tell people what to do, even though they might not do it themselves, and you said that's related to your third revelation yes, the third revelation the book of revelations over here this ties it all up in a bow.
Speaker 1:I'm burping, sorry I'm yawning, you're burping. It's just a quality show you know humans, that's what we are.
Speaker 3:Uh, okay, so oh my brain. Then I went into like a daft punk song called human after all. See, I have adhd, okay.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know.
Speaker 3:Okay, finish the thought, heather. What was I saying? Revelation number three Okay, here's, yes, yes. The thing is, I have come to realize that I, especially watching this video from seven years ago, especially coming to my eight-year anniversary of being on YouTube, I can truthfully, honestly say that I am at the finish line. I didn't realize that, I didn't realize that this is where I would end up. But, damn, if I like, just like, right here in this moment, I am in my freaking house with my awesome, amazing, lovely husband. We're doing a live stream where all of you delightful people are hanging out with us, where we get to talk about things that we're interested in. We have finley over there, we've got ben. Uh, after this we're gonna go run some errands, get some cupcakes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, next week we're going to nab like playing some hockey in the middle, playing some video games, not change a thing.
Speaker 3:Like, literally, what could possibly be better than this? Like it's perfect, like I just I'm so grateful, like if I knew that this is where I was gonna end up, oh man, I think I would have done everything I could to make it happen faster yeah. But like the fact that I can I can just take a look around and be really happy I think I always felt like you can get caught up in feeling like you can't be happy until you make 10.
Speaker 3:YouTube videos when you hit that milestone, when you hit that subscriber number, when you hit this many views like you are not allowed to be happy until you hit the goal Right and I can. I can say now I'm at the finish line, which means anyone who's going to tell me advice, or even me second guessing myself, it's like, well, I'm already where I want to be. So do you mean like it doesn't? It's not that your advice doesn't matter, but the advice is is is coming from a place that I'm actually supposed to be over here, like I'm supposed to have more subscribers. If you want more subscribers, you should be doing this. If you want to make more money, you should be doing this.
Speaker 3:Not that I don't want to be better, of course, like I always want to try to be a better person. But, like now it's nice because I know my priorities, I know what I want, I know what my goals are and no one else does. And so if you give you know, like I have the context of being able to understand how to filter people's opinions Right Versus if I feel like I'm not good enough, if I feel like I'm not doing it right, and then someone tells me well, hey, I'm a successful business person or I have a gold play button Right. Let me tell you to just be extreme with your YouTube videos and just be crazy and be loud and like, have a million cuts and stuff and it's like, well, if I want to do what you're doing, then that makes sense, but I like where I'm at Right. I'm super happy, you know. So that's the last revelation.
Speaker 1:That's a big one. Yeah, that's a very big one and I think I think a lot more people could potentially be at the finish line than they think they are. But we're not ever trained to feel like enough is enough and be content with what you have. We're trained to want more and those goalpost posts will always move. If you say, I will be happy once I get 10 000 subscribers, you're gonna get 10 000, be happy for a day and you're gonna say what about 20?
Speaker 3:yeah, like I don't it. It can. Only, I can't imagine it being better than this and I know it will become better than this but the fact that I can just look around, evolve and change in ways that you can't predict or plan for, but you know if you're happy with where you're at and you keep making decisions and actions that reflect that I'm happy with where I'm going.
Speaker 1:The thing it evolves into will be another version.
Speaker 3:That's also great yes, that that is my compass. Yeah, it's a very good one. Yeah, all right, cool, here we go. Oh, I was gonna say I got really dizzy all of a sudden, but I think it's because it was oh, yeah, motion sickness oh no I was like why do I feel motion sickness? But I think it was when we were sorry, uh showing finley, he's passed out right now.
Speaker 3:Okay, ernesto says the question is are you going to do it promptly? Aaron says you know you have a problem when you find the ups truck on the app tracker and go find them before they get to your place. I do know the guy well, though, and I gave him a big tip for the holidays. Oh, that's the best, that's awesome. Uh, jfk ecamm has finally become sentient and is doing weird things. Yeah, what is that? Uh, ob says the whole adulting thing is totally overrated. Ono, coffee, says my ups guy and I text about packages all the time oh, that's the way to do it set up that kind of relationship.
Speaker 1:We're always with ups, we're always at the end of the day. It's like yeah, you might as well not even count it actually showing up on the delivery day, because it will be after the sun sets uh gil says this is beautiful, well said, uh, heather, just great.
Speaker 3:See, we ended up just going back to the channel name that I created forever ago, uh, you made it for a reason sammy says so. True, I'm going for the aluminum foil play button. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:That's why we should give everyone at the youtube huddle up I um, you know the the youtube channel I watch, beard meets food. Yeah, it's like a competitive eating channel. Most of the videos are made by just adam, the one guy with the beard who eats the food, but he has like three million subscribers now and every once in a while he'll do more produced videos that are like there's a team of people making them and he he likes audio video production, so bouncing back and forth is like part of the fun for him, but they he has a podcast his podcast um with another, with one of the people who helps him make his other videos and who has, like, his own channel video production stuff.
Speaker 1:But the other guy has a smaller channel, like I think. I mean smaller compared to 3 million, I think it's like a 20 30 000 subscriber channel and on their podcast they have their nice set and when you see adam's shot they have a light on the wall. It's almost like if you had a gold play button under this light here. Okay, like a museum piece, almost his gold play button there. And when it's the other guy's shot there's the same light in the background. But it's just a piece of paper with a play button drawn on it.
Speaker 3:It's so fun it's been there for like a year now uh, jewel says I feel grateful, for I am freshening as well. I create videos for a pro sports team. I love what I do. There's room to grow and I'm channeled. Youtube creators have helped me create videos that's awesome congrats.
Speaker 3:Uh ob says I will be happy now. Sure, I'd like more followers, but I'm doing what makes me happy. Yep, uh miel. Hey guys, I've got a problem. I brought the rode nt usb plus and a boom arm yesterday, but now that I try them together my mic is too heavy for the boom arm. Is there any solution besides buying a new?
Speaker 1:uh, depends on the boom arm you got. If it's a higher end one, there should be some sort of thing you can tighten to adjust the friction if. If it's like the baseline you know $20 boom arm, it probably is just too heavy for it. So it depends on the arm. But whatever arm you got at the like rotation points, try turning screws or Allen keys and see if you can adjust the tension.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't realize we passed the hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I was in the zone there, it's a jam-packed episode. Well, do you have any last thoughts?
Speaker 1:I felt like I talked a lot sorry, no, this was I mean, I got all my stuff out at the beginning and it was really fun to hear you come through these like creative revelations and stuff yeah, I'm excited and now I feel relieved I feel more justified in wanting to get a second prompter, because so here's the other problem now we're just gonna kind of hang out and talk about this for a second but the one I won't call it a problem, but sort of problem with my current setup. The prompter has to work with a computer. It comes with an okay cable, but not nearly long enough so when my thing is over here but my camera's way over there, I bought a 16 foot high speed cable to use with the prompter which works great, but is still a little too short.
Speaker 1:In some cases it just and I don't think because it needs to be a certain high speed cable I don't think they come in currently lengths longer than that I think 16 as long as you can go. So what I've been doing, actually just using my laptop instead of using my, like mac mini, that's just sort of in there. When I need to use stuff over there, I just plug the prompter into my laptop and everything's good, that's not a problem. But that's where I was like okay, I had sort of built this setup in mind with, like, I take this one cable and I can plug it into my camera wherever it's at with the prompter. But now I realize it's only about half the places it could be.
Speaker 1:So so that's where it's kind of like second prompter, but then because if you give a mouse a cookie, he wants a glass of milk is that the rest of that? Yeah, you read the book literary classic I've never I forget what comes after the milk, but it's like if you if you give him a glass of milk, he's gonna want something to go with it. After the milk he's gonna take a nap or something, so he needs a pillow if you have something like that okay um, he's a greedy little guy.
Speaker 1:So now I'm like, okay, what if? Because I have my little desk set up which is sort of my secondary shot, but I'm realizing I'm using it a lot because that's the one where it's like I'll just pop on ecam, do a quick patreon video, do a quick whatever it kind of makes sense. Then not only I have a prompter there, what about a little sony zv-e10, what about a whole separate little camera setup that just lives on the desk you?
Speaker 3:have that? I don't. You don't have a so so zony, a sony I don't. I thought, what do you have?
Speaker 1:you have a camera I have three sony cameras, but they're big full frame ones that oh that I thought you had it, which is fine. No, I don't have that one. It's the little setup that everyone uses. That's really good, that I'm always recommending to people. What if I just had that? But then now we're talking. My second $280 prompter is now a $1,300 equipment purchase.
Speaker 3:Equipment rig. Yeah, We'll see Sammy says, apple makes a very light, nice long speed cable.
Speaker 1:I haven't found any that are over 16 feet, though I could be wrong, but I really have searched. It has to be at least 20 gigabyte, 20 gbps gigabytes.
Speaker 3:Sammy also doesn't get shipments from ups as much anymore, since I pick up everything at bnh that's awesome.
Speaker 1:That's a flex yeah, that is definitely a flex, I wish I wish we could do that that was so cool. Yeah, I would definitely do in-store pickup every time yeah, the king.
Speaker 3:Thanks guys, so cool, uh, such great book says tech troublemaker. I use the phrase a lot and then have to explain the book more. Folks need to read it like the giving tree uh, do you need the pedal with the prompter to scroll the text? I guess so.
Speaker 1:You don't need it, nope, you can use your mouse, you can have it autoplay, you could use your keyboard, you could use your stream deck. At some point they haven't done this.
Speaker 3:I use my mouse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, At some point they'll do voice tracking, but it's just not there yet. But they have to include it. But I just really like the pedal. The only thing that's weird is now, since I can stand. Sometimes I'm standing and when I have to do the pedal, you can kind of see me shift my feet.
Speaker 3:Normally when I'm sitting, you can't tell I have zero interest in the pedal we literally have a brand new one in the box, like sitting there because it is so good. I push my buttons, man, I.
Speaker 1:It is so good. I push my buttons, man, I know, but I use the well even during live streams, because all I do during live streams is end the stream and do scene forward, scene backwards, and so I can just do that with my feet and for the prompter it's just like phenomenal. You've been in there when I'm recording, yeah. The prompter and stuff, and it's just. It's just so easy.
Speaker 3:He loves it, I love it so much. Nope, All right. Sammy has to pay for sales tax and you probably need a repeater box to add length.
Speaker 1:See, I don't know how repeaters work with these specific cables. That would be cool, though. And we have to pay sales tax too. B&h used to be sales tax-free up until like four or five years ago, and then they oh, it was like a law passed so they had to charge it, so we also pay sales tax. Um, the way they get around it is they have a like a bnh store credit card where, um, every time you order something, you will get cash back in the amount of your sales tax, so then you can use it to buy other stuff, so it's it's almost like they're paying your sales tax back, but to get the card you have to do a credit check or something.
Speaker 1:as I never never did that, but yeah all right time to clear the table it's time to clear the table.
Speaker 3:That was fun we're gonna. We'll still be able to do the couple sleep before we leave, right yeah, all right so join us next friday thanks for being here.
Speaker 1:Thanks for all the hanging out and sharing thoughts and stuff. That was fun. You have a safe, happy, healthy rest of your week and weekend and we'll see you next time. Bye.