The Content Creator Life

With the rise of AI tools allowing content farms to create dozens of videos each day catered perfectly to "The Algorithm™", what does that mean for a regular 'ol human who creates content?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Hello and welcome. My name is Tom. And I'm Heather. You're sitting at the Couples Table.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

The Couples Table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse. For richer or poor in Sync Descendent Health.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Whenever we decide to stream.

unknown 0:30

Woo.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Okay, so here's what Tom and I decided before the stream started.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Oh, did we decide something? We did. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

So Tom is going to create a uh like tag on his mailing list just for the couples table. Because Mihaul, I think when you're watching the replay, asked if we can send an email 24 hours before the stream starts. Since we're still we I don't I don't think we can. Well, here's my plan Fridays, probably at 1 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

But uh I don't know if we can like put that in stone yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

But if you want to join the mailing list to get a reminder, we're gonna make that. We haven't made it yet. But I don't know, check the socials and we'll post it somewhere. In case you want it. Otherwise, just hit the notification.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

But then you get to be on my awesome mailing list.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

But then you get to be on Tom's mailing list. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Don't worry. I send out things very sporadically and non-spammy.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yeah. This is to be a set. You can if you want to, you know what you should do? Two options. You want to sign up for Tom's like to receive all his emails or just the couples.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

I'm gonna have you set up this form.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Oh, yeah, I could do that. I got you. Anyway, good morning, everybody. Hello. Let's check in. Obbs is here, Sam B Superstar in the house. Are we? How's our audio situation?

SPEAKER_01 1:49

It sounded okay to me over there, but oh, that's what you want to go do. Yeah, people will let us know.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Hello, Richard. Peter Rogers here. Melanie, happy Sunday. Oh no coffee. Hello, hello. Call me Cubby's in the house. Saying hi from Jacksonville.

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Normally in Jacksonville? Mr.

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Camera Junky. I think he's on the way to uh Creator.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Come up.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

No. The Ecamm creator thing. Uh oh. I saw your live your stream pop up in my feed yesterday. I think. Um yeah, hi Peter. What's up, everybody? Well, 10 a.m. It's early. We haven't streamed. Yeah, we I don't think we've streamed.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

We didn't visitors in town this weekend, so our Thursday didn't.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Happy related to my little brother who ain't so little anymore. Which means I'm not so little either.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Oh, there's Daniel. Daniel, I was Daniel.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Oh my god, we were just talking about you.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

In a good way. I'm just like, wonder where he is. He's probably traveling the world.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Well, yeah, we were like, oh, he's in the I don't know, European Alps somewhere. No, he's in Mexico City.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Slightly different.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Hello, hello. Yes, creator camp. There it is.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

That was close.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

You took the words right out of my mouth. Alright, so how's how's content creator? The content creator life? How's the content creator life?

SPEAKER_01 3:06

It's busy. Jeez. Oh, yeah, I forgot that's what we titled. Yes. Oh, then it was your question was perfectly apropos. It is good. It's been um a very busy just few months and things are changing, I guess, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

It's a little fast-paced.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

It's a little fast-paced. Exciting though, you know? I feel like it's it might be adding some stress that I didn't realize it was adding, and so I'm trying to recognize that. Yeah. Not in a bad way, but like I didn't positive stress is also stress. Yeah, all stress is stress.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Yeah. Yeah. I so I'm like super enjoying vlogs, but I also want to like take time to make videos like in here. Yeah. Just like the sit-down ones. Just I'm at that point where there's not enough time in the week anymore. But yeah. I that's such an exciting problem to have, though.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

So yeah, it's fortunately, it's for the most part for good things.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

That means it's a busy with lots of good things, not lots of bad things. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Yes, yes, yes. Uh like your shirt, Heather. Happy Sunday. Thank you. I love my shirt. So bright on screen. This is my first time wearing it. And okay, so here's the reason why we're wearing sweaters because it's gonna be like 100 degrees in the desert today.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Because we never can wear our freaking sweater.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Tom was like, I really want to wear this new sweater. Do you like his new sweater? Look at these like awesome cords.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

Look at these cords. I got my shiny logo over here. Yeah, the NHL logo over there.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

And then I was like, Well, I have to wear a sweater too. I bought this a few weeks ago, and it just is too hot to wear. So now I'm wearing it here. But anyway. Uh best time ever. The real Pell Room, what's up? Hello. Let's see. Subs. Do you need a lift to CC23? Speak now about the head into Georgia. Oh, obs subs. I've been traveling like a lot, like too much. Oh. Hey, audio hotline.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Audio hotline windscreen. I did. We were talking before. I thought of Aubrey because this one. Amazon has started selling SM7B windscreens. I mean, I don't know if they're from Amazon, they're from some seller on there. And they're they're cheap. There's like $7 or something. Um, so I got this green one because green is cool. $7, you know, super fast shipping versus $25. And if you're in the US shipping from Europe, it's significantly cheaper, but the quality is definitely not the same. This is basically just a sponge that they like formed into a thing, which is fine. But the reporter store ones are like just so much more high quality and don't affect the sound as much.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

They do not feel the same at all.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I've had this one for like a week now, so it doesn't, but the first couple days I had it, it was also like whatever, like gassing, you know, like smells. I don't know if it's paint. Production smells. Yeah. Yeah. The reporter store ones have never had that problem. But anyway, I thought of you, Aubrey, because I got the bright green one.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yeah, but that's weird because it's like green screen color.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

But I wanted when I had the sh the SM7B, the shore colors are like black and green. I was like, oh, it's gonna look cool for the thing, and then I didn't I didn't use it, and then I returned the mic.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Uh okay, so what else? Well, yeah, what else is up? I don't want to cut you off.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Uh let's see. I started the 11th season of my podcast last week.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Oh, wow. Congrats. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah, so that's what I've been doing.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

We live together.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

That's that's the thing. What did you talk about? Um, the first, well, the this has been the second episode comes out tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

The first episode was all about I'm just always moving in a shaking. It's not that I don't support him, but there's just it's always just doing stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

The first episode was about the invalid traffic problem on YouTube. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

I have another problem to bring up with you.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Okay, and then the second episode um was more well, actually the last the episode that comes out tomorrow is all about I just broke down all of the like podcast interface mixers as like a buyer's guide to you know, do you want the roadcaster, do you want the gig caster? Is the mix cast still a thing? What about the podcaster? Casty caster. All the casties, yeah. Yeah, so that's next, that's tomorrow's episode.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Okay, so I'm going to uh share this link. Don't watch it now because it's five minutes long, but Marta of the Spiral Lab. Spiral lab sent me this link, and I thought it was worth a discussion because most people here are content creators. And even if you're not, you obviously watch YouTube. So I'm curious to think what you would think. Um but this is like we've talked about AI a couple times, you know, I think on previous episodes of the couples table, and I think that when the last time from what I can remember that we talked about it, it was like AI is um artificial. So it's not my thing because obviously I want to create my content genuinely and whatever. But then there's also the wow, these tools are like really good. Yeah, you know, like we can ask Chat GPT to write a script about whatever. It can really help your process become more effective, efficient. Like if you are stuck in analysis paralysis with a bunch of ideas, get your ideas like into Chat GPT and it'll help you kind of like you know flesh things out. Um and I think that's the last time where the conversation was a few months ago. It has really, as AI would accelerated.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Now that we are in October of 2023. Um, and that link is a message to a video that Hank Green did, who I consider to be, you know, the father of YouTube. Uh so it's about how AI is going to really become a problem on YouTube because it is getting to the point where we can ask Chat GPT to write outlines and scripts for content, but it will get to a point where it's like make a channel about business advice for new entrepreneurs, and boom, you know, like you don't even have to show up on camera, it it'll just create the videos for you, and everything is, you know, AI, so it's it's all gonna be optimized and stuff. And he was saying in that video, like, okay, um when this is possible, if it isn't already, it's going to go really fast because these are like farms that are just gonna crunch this content out. And of course, the creators like us are what there's it's impossible for us to compete on that level because it takes us, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Go to the bathroom and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Yeah, we're creating at a human pace, you know. There's only so fast that we can go, sleep and food and things. So it's gonna be really interesting in terms of discovery because I think there's gonna be a lot more to sift through.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

So I don't know. I just wanted to see what are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Um, well, I just saw Peter popped up a thing there that I kind of agree with. He said, I got a fun input on this AI. What happens will be eventually everything looks the same. And that was kind of what I was thinking because it's at a certain point, AI, when it comes to content creation, AI can't help but optimize for the algorithm, right? So you have this computer robotic algorithm system that's over here, and you have this other system that's optimizing for it. So then you just have a robot creating for robots, and then the people are almost on the sidelines, like, okay, is any of this interesting to us? And I think I think on like a very base level, almost the same way that like reality TV or you know, whatever, like um, what is it, like American Idol, like those those sort of like super broad shows that like the empty calorie shows that anyone can just put on and be like, oh, okay, it's a mainstream audience. I feel like it'll be very good at creating that stuff, but creating stuff that people connect with and that is different and stands out will be will be tougher. And what will be interesting is when people so say like AI, you know, is doing its thing and then a casey nystat shows up where you know they bring something entirely new to the platform that's really great and that people love. Does it immediately latch onto that and like like suddenly that? I don't know. Like, how does that work? But yeah, the the as a tool though, it's I as a tool, I don't want to be as negative about it as I initially felt because there's there are really helpful things like one big thing.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

I'll never see it as negative. I can't.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

One big thing. Well, it's also like the genie's not going back in the bottle. So what are you gonna say?

SPEAKER_00 11:38

I mean, that's like saying social media is bad. I'll never say that. But they're um I've been used for bad things, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

I've been using Photoshop's uh Oh yeah, this is cool. I was using Photoshop beta and they finally they implemented into the new version, but like the generative AI and all those tools slipped on here. Save a ton, save a ton of time. So here's an example. This was a thumbnail for a video I did a while ago. I don't know if people would see it because it's just on my phone.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yeah, we can see it.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Okay, so this is a picture of a microphone on a boom arm in my studio against the blue backdrop. And it was funny because I was trying to take all these pictures and get everything good, and I was done, and I was turning off all my lights, and just one light was left on in the studio as I was leaving, and I looked and I was like, that looks so cool. So I grabbed my camera, took a photo of just the boom arm with one light instead of you know my 15 lights like normal. And you can kind of see on the edge here, there's you see like the edge of the wall, and there's stuff over here, and there's microphones on the wall. Normally, what I would do, because what I wanted was for this blue background to fill the whole thing. So normally I would go into Photoshop and I would actually use some tools that I learned from Peter's videos like three years ago to like, you know, stretch out the backgrounds and clone things out and make the whole background blue. It's not incredibly difficult. Um, but it would probably take me to make it look good, especially because there's a gradient here, like you see, it's there's the bright spot where the light is, and there's sort of a vignette on the blue. To get that matching and looking even, I would say it'd honestly probably take about 30 minutes to get it done. I was like, I'll try the new Photoshop thing. So I just selected the microphone, generative AI, and then wait, let me now it's not gonna be as impressive. I can't just switch swipe between it. But yeah, in two seconds it filled up, it didn't just crop in, it's the same framing of the thing, but it filled out perfectly the whole thing there, exact literally uh, you know, however long it took to generate, maybe six seconds or something. And I was like, oh, perfect, and then I could go in and you know, clean it up, clean it up and add in some lettering and everything. But like that saved so much time.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Yeah, well, I it's the same thing. A hi, a a hi, a i is not inherently.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yeah, and that the end result is the same, like it's not, you know, it wasn't an artistic expression of myself. It was the same thing I wanted to get to, but it just got me there so much faster instead of having to spend 30 minutes on it. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't like, okay, I want to paint this beautiful picture that you know evokes something in my soul and communicates something. I'm just gonna have Photoshop generate evocative picture of emotions or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

But in this case, it was incredibly helpful. And so Yeah, so there's that part of it. I I feel like when it comes to the AI generated content, I I my hope is my worry is that people don't distinguish the difference and like it doesn't, it does it just swipe, swipe, consume, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, consume. But my hope is that people actually do sort of like I kind of get tired of it because it I feel like it it will feel a certain way, and won't it won't scratch a certain itch that whether or not somebody even wants to have that itch like they don't even realize that they're looking for that, but then when they they have something that does meet that need and kind of nourish that part of themselves, they feel differently towards it than the thing that a computer made. Um but also my last thing I will say is a thing that I have really been watching a lot of are AI generated commercials. Because people for fun.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Yeah, because people will make people watching commercials that are in A.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

But it'll be like someone will make like do a Pizza Hut commercial from 1982 or whatever, and okay, or or the the best ones are when they somehow use AI to generate like like a fake restaurant, so it has like a slogan and a song and like a voiceover, but it's like AI doesn't quite know how food works, and so like people's mouths feel like don't have mouths, or they have like too many mouths, or like teeth, and like the slogan is also like I think one restaurant was called Taco Tornado or something, and it it had like it it's really funny because it's like slightly off the mark, but it I was like tearing up that that was that's your thing, some of the funniest things I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

Um Peter says, See, I got a fun input on this AI. What happens will be that everything looks the same eventually, right? Ryan says, as a small YouTuber, I work 40 hours per week with my full-time job. My child goes to bed around 8 pm. Then I can start making content for my channel, and it's been this way for three years now.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

That is exhausting.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Uh, the non-persona channels be the ones most challenged by AI. Channels where the audience connects with the personality will stand apart. This is how I feel. I feel like that's true. This is a huge advantage for creators like us, basically, who who I who I feel like it is about the connection, the genuine connection. And it I think that in making content that isn't necessarily the most mainstream, you do take a, you know, it's like the deep versus wide thing, right? Like you're if you want to go deeper, you can't go as wide. And I think that uh that deeper connection and the I don't know, the topics that take a little bit longer to talk about, the longer videos, even just in general, because I think the AI videos are gonna be probably shorter. Um, I think those are gonna stand out, and I think that there's more opportunity for that deeper connection. Like I think people will crave that because they've craved that connection since the beginning of time. That's like a human nature thing.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Um, the thing that I worry about though is that like you said, people I don't know if we're at the point where people can distinguish between what is AI generated and what's not you're not someone who makes stuff yourself and looking at it with this eye, you're just sort of like, I'm opening an app to just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

The thing is, it's like the I think the average YouTube like viewer who doesn't create content, doesn't you know, know about the back end of YouTube. I don't think they have a conscious thought of, oh yeah, I'm watching more, you know, uh YouTube shorts than I have. They're just watching YouTube, it doesn't matter whether shorts or live streams or vlogs or whatever, they just it's like, oh, it's just in their feed and now they're scrolling. Yeah. So I think it's like that that's the part that I get a little bit, mm-hmm. I wonder how YouTube's gonna handle this because they're already having problems with that. And you know, if they had a problem with uh moderation, uh, you know, the checking system in terms of what's appropriate on YouTube with the volume that we're uploading at now. Oh my god, it's only gonna get like you know, that volume is a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

It's only gonna go to like 12,000 hours a minute or whatever. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

I I feel like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Oof, I didn't even think about literally the infrastructure demand.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

If I were YouTube, what I would see, if I were YouTube, what I would do is upload limits. And then you could even pay as a creator, like, okay, you're only allowed to upload like five hours a month if you want to upload more, then you actually have to pay rent. Well, since we're distributing for free, you know, you actually now have to pay rent to have your business on our street. That'll be interesting. I hope that doesn't happen. Yeah, one but but it would stop trash content, I feel like, because they wouldn't pay.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Right. No, no, no. Well, so one thing in my podcast episode, shameless self-promotion synergy, platform cross whatever. Um I don't I don't I've talked to you about this and I don't know what the I don't know what the thing is and or the practicality is, but if I were in charge of YouTube, by all accounts, from what I have heard and seen, the people at the top, like the executives and whatnot, and the CEO, do want the platform to do well. Obviously. They do care about not harming people and stuff, and it's a big platform that has a huge percentage of the Earth's population on it. So that's a hard thing for like a group of people in a room to solve all the problems for. And I get that. I do feel like the the weird thing is unless you are the like some of the main channels. When I say main channels, I mean like a Mr. Beast type channel, Alinus Tech Tips, channels that don't just have hundreds of thousands or even a few million, but like tens of millions, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:57

Like they're companies at this point.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Yeah, like I feel like they have a different ear, but even from what I understand, channels with like several million subscribers are still feeling in it's almost like if you're not that, which almost starts at like 10, 15, 20 million subscriber channels, you're all lumped together. So whether you have 2.5 million, 800, whether you're 42 years old and you've been doing this full time, or you're a 12-year-old who's like just trying to like upload some like copyrighted game content or something, you're all in the same bucket in YouTube's eyes. And to me, that is a huge problem because it they that's where that's where the thing we've talked about where YouTube doesn't care if I stop, if you stop, right because some other nerd is just gonna show up and upload videos, like they you know, they don't care. And I don't want to say they should care, but they sh I feel like, especially with the AI stuff, if there are channels where it's like, okay, here's a channel that has consistently built, you know, created content on this platform for a number of years, built up an audience, they're in good standing. You know, they're not a channel that has a million copyright strikes or community guidelines dings or anything. Yeah, they they they create and when I say high quality content for YouTube, it's probably different than us, but for them, it'd be like ad-friendly content. Yeah, watch them stuff that people watch that's safe to put ads on. Um and they and they keep doing it and they're trying to you know build a some sort of either part-time or full-time livelihood on it. I feel because that that number of channels is really small, like compared to all of the channels, that number is significantly smaller. Not necessarily that each one needs to have like a personal phone call or whatever, but those are the ones that in the system get flagged and tagged to maybe have exceptions. Maybe you can upload a little bit more. Maybe maybe when this weird traffic issue happens, like we get a badge.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

You've earned a badge.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

We we actually care about fostering a partnership here. It's almost like we to the best of Their ability in a very unstable and unpredictable industry, the best of their ability, they're creating a platform that has a modicum of stability and security on it, which isn't going to be much, but that would be an absolute game changer from the creator point of view, where you don't feel like you're building a house on quicksand all the time. Like, you know, we have a house, it's next to an earthquake fault. That is a thing you are aware of when you buy the house. And then you the house is built with certain earthquake codes, we buy earthquake insurance, you know, like there's things you can do to not eliminate the risk, but at least prep yourself to handle it or mitigate it. Yeah. And I feel like if YouTube actually did that for the channels, right now they've been looking at it as who cares? Because Heather stops, someone else is just going to step in. But I think it's really gonna bite them in the butt when it's like, oh, like high-quality channels disappear and are replaced with like garbage AI can make 800 videos a day channel.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

For every one Tom Buck, there's gonna be 2,000 AI channels. Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

So and that's I feel like fostering that is re is really important for them to succeed. And I don't know, I just feel like it's important.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Uh Daniel says when smartphone starters produce quality picks, we heard many times that would lead to the end of pro photography. I would argue that it did the opposite, it lowered the barrier of entry.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

I mean that that argument, you know, calculators are gonna make people dumb. Like new technology is always scary, it does always hype up, and then there is a point where a lot of people do just get tired of it and move on because it's like the shiny new toy is boring now. And I think, you know, there's only so many AI commercials you want to make, so many fake AI videos.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Roger says, I've used uh Photoshop beta for moving unwise stuff and photos like backpacks, and it works great for that. I would get to the same result doing it the old way in Photoshop, but that just saves time. Exactly. Yeah. The A correctional. Of course, you've also watched it. Uh Daniel says, uh AI might lower the barrier of entry for many time-consuming tasks, but it will then make it easier to produce the mass for all the same content and dilute quality in the ocean.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

I hope Becky and Chris's helicopter video.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Uh just imagine a Final Cut Pro Proligan that analyzes and color corrects grades footage. Uh, afraid it's around the corner. Okay, there are AI online editors, but still Final Cut Pro can become a target.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Um, yeah, I mean, like I that would be a good and a bad thing, right? Like, if that's that's almost like just buying a LUT pack, though. Like you go to Peter's website, you buy Peter's LUTs, you just slap Peter's LUTs on your footage, and you're done.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Peter's LUTs on my footage.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

That's not like that's not, I'm gonna guess, that's not even what Peter intends. You go there and then it's a starting point to dial it into your own thing. And that's you know, the AI stuff, like it can color correct your footage, it can modify everything, but you still have to go like, I I want it to look more like this. Or I'm thinking audio, um, which I have been using actually. Adobe's speech enhancing.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

I do use it a lot.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I do use it a lot, and it's really helpful. And it's the same thing. It's like I could tweak the audio to sound this way on my own, but especially with audio, that's gonna take a really long time. So instead of that, how about I just have this machine do it in no time and then we're good. Oh my god. Boston and Maine Live!

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Oh my goodness, we're such fans. We have your we sorry, now I'm gonna fan, I'm fangirling. You're watching me fangirl. Everyone, this is Boston and Maine Live.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Channel is on in our living room right now.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Yes, do yourself a favor and check out the live world cams stream. It's a 24-7 live stream, but there's like 120 live cameras around the world. Um, but it's hosted by this wonderful channel here, and it's been such a treat in our house for like three months.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

But anyway, um let's see. Oh, the courses, you guys. If you didn't know, Tom has a course. Uh Peter also has a course about Final Cut Pro.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Both have Final Cut Pro courses, yes.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Um, and you also have podcast courses as well.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

And have podcasting courses as well, yeah. Peter's course is uh very, very both our courses are us sharing our way of editing with Final Cut Pro. Yeah. Um and I would say Peter's is like I nodded in my head, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

I haven't seen either.

unknown 26:09

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Peter's is I would say I'm not calling mine not premium. I would say his is a more premium thing and mine is a less premium version. But they're both great courses, and you know, it is also we are stylistically quite different editors.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

So I just busted out Japanese later. I don't know why I did that. Sorry. I'm taking a Japanese class. Well, that's good. Look at that. Yeah, it's like fusing.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

All right.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Anyway, so AI to wrap up the conversation. I I'm actually optimistic.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Are we gonna tell people that we've been AI avatars this whole time?

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Yeah, ready to push the button.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

I think they're physically robots that stop. I like your moves though, but oh man.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Tom, Tom thinks that Mr.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Beast is an AI. I I don't think he's an AI. It just wouldn't surprise me if the news came out that he never actually exists. I would be like, yeah, okay. Like, I'm not surprised.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Oh man, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Yeah, it's like the movie Weird Science, but instead of making like a supermodel girl, they were just like, let's put the algorithm into like a 22-year-old white dude. Boom. Okay, weird science.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

But seriously though, I've I do feel uh optimistic. Because here's the thing like all the trends, all the new tools, all the new tech will come and go, but human nature is human nature since you know there was one person on this planet. So uh, and I think that humans will always crave the deeper connection, the sense of belonging, the you know, relatable to someone who's you know in a similar situation as them. And I I feel like that's gonna be hard. Well, I mean that's even if AI could mimic, it's not gonna be. It just can't be. Like, I I refuse to believe that it can be.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

I mean, I think of it as like being at like a social event, like a party or something. There's a bunch of people there you don't know that well. All the conversations you can have out like, hey, yeah, weather crazy. Oh yeah, the weather, just like all that like small talk stuff that we all engage with, and it's fine. And you can you can go through a day like that and be like, yeah, everybody's really nice. I had a good time, and then you meet somebody there that like you connect with in some way, and you're able to like, oh, you know, this thing, oh yeah, and then you, you know, and then three hours pass because you've just like been able to you went into the garage, and like now there's like you know, someone showed you this cool tool, and now you guys have to do it. And that's a very different experience than just the small talk, even though the small talk's fine, like it's not hurting anything necessarily, but it's also not scratching that itch in the same way.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

There we go. So, alright.

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Well, so that's our AI.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

That's AI. Sorry, my back's turn hurt.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

That's a good, that's a good, a good thing to update on.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

I think it's yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Okay, from the content creator side of things, I do think what's really important is the recog the recognition. Same with short form video, like it's not going away. Doesn't mean you have to go all in and like only do that, but it's like, okay, what is it? How do I use it? How can I incorporate it? Maybe I don't need to, maybe I want to, or a little bit. Like it's another tool, and it would be foolish to just the thing that I'm becoming so aware of as like we start getting a little older is I really do notice people at younger ages than I would expect get stuck in their ways, you know. As a kid, you're very malleable. That's the word, that's exactly the word. Yeah, you you you can change your opinions, your thoughts, the way you do things, it's like fine. You can adapt to new workflows, and then you find what works, you stick with it, this is how it is, and you sort of stick with that, but then the times move on, and you know. I remember being a teacher in 2022, and there were still other teachers using Scantrons. Eventually, one day the school was like, We have to get 2022. Or sorry, 2020, the 2020s, whenever I stopped teaching, it's been a weird decade, but I remember teachers still using Scantrons, you know, and then you run them through the machine, it's like and eventually the school was like, Look, this Scantron machine, this grading machine is from 1975, literally, we're gonna get rid of it, so you can't use these anymore. People were throwing a fit, and it's like because you have you have used those since you started teaching here 28 years ago, and it's not that it's necessarily bad, but like maybe there are better ways to approach elements.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

You know what I opened up the other day and actually tried to spend some time with? I don't know if I told you this. Cap cut.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

No, you told me you were interested in it because you wanted to see.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Um wow. What what a tool. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Okay. Like is it free?

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yes, and no. Oh there's a there's a freemium. A freemium. Um, I would definitely consider it to be like the final cut of um Incredible. Really? It's crazy. I hate uh editing on a phone. Okay. Like I hate using my fingers to you know slide the stupid sliders.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

I need my mouse to try to find the right place the right frame and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Yeah. Um, but oh my god, the templates, you could just re-make if you like this person's thing, you could just take it and it's got all the things there. You can customize everything. It'll even tell you like what shots where and oh it I mean, it'll it'll you can change a ratio with one click to be, you know, for whatever platform that you want. It's kind of crazy. But I can see I can see why a tool like that has really um you know, lowered the barrier of entry. Because if you didn't know how to edit, you don't need to know how to edit, it'll tell you exactly what to do. It's kind of crazy, but uh yeah, my point is like I anti-Sworts, anti-reels, anti-vertical here. I recognize like I'm being set in my ways. Let me give this a try, you know, like let me let me just see. I don't know. I you know, I started vlogging back up again, and I was like, let me just I I have my experience, I have my perspective, I have my story, but like the the reality is that the the landscape of creator tools is changing, and I I don't want to just be stuck in 2015 right YouTube vlogging days, you know. Like what if it what if there is a way to make you know to use these tools to do something that I didn't realize I could do? Yeah, I'm trying to take that view.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Something I forget who I was talking to the other day about this, but one thing it's so hard to learn something new though. Oh my god. But we we were we've talked about this before when we talk about career content creators and career YouTubers, which is a newish thing. But if you think of like the long like you talked about Hank Green earlier, or like I always think on YouTube since day one. Since the beginning, I always think of like I Justine or Marquez Brownley, like people who have been doing it for over 10 years, have gone from you know, a bedroom in their parents' house to full-on production studio situation, yeah, kind of thing. Um, and obviously their their stuff they make has changed, their approach has changed, but in those cases, if you watch the first video and the newest video, it's still the same person. Yeah, and to me that's been fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

They've adapted, they've leveled up, but the core is still there, the the soul is still there.

SPEAKER_01 33:47

And we've talked about this before that in order for them to do that, there have been all these different eras, you know, trends and things of YouTube, and they've had to adapt and like shift and like make it through. It's like you know, you're in the ocean and the big wave comes and you kind of have to like go. They've had to do that several times. To me, I feel like this is I don't know about you, but the first time in my you know, several years. Yeah, feeling that I feel like, oh, if you want to do this for a long time, it's been six years, it's your turn to figure out how to do that. Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

Like we we have we all in our own way, yeah. It's I feel like what, six or seven years?

SPEAKER_01 34:22

That's the it seems like this is at that point in our YouTube careers, yeah. And because other people are jumping in right now. If you start right now, this is going to be just how it is. Like this is what it is, okay. The newest things, and then they're gonna have to adapt in five years or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

So uh Chat GPT really helped me with the programming task I couldn't figure out. That's how I think too. Always try to think of how to improve or find ways ways uh to do things better, it's fun too.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

It is fun, yeah. And like how to use the you know, like chat has been really helpful. I don't want to use chat to write a script for my video or anything because I do want, even if my video is imperfect or whatever, I I want my mic review to be my mic review. Like that that is really important to me. But something I've done a few times is I've been outlining videos, um, especially for like some client things, like if we're doing like how to set up podcasting or something.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Instruction.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

I will outline, I will create my video, yeah, do my whole script, but I will then ask chat to do it because my thought is let me see if I'm even sort of in this ballpark. Because my thought is that chat is taking like the most generalized approach. So, okay, if these are the five steps to starting a podcast and it's there, and I go, okay, here's the one I have. Hey, look, like I feel like my thing must make sense.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

How to make a chocolate chip cookie. You can have your way, and then you can check what chat's doing, and it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Cross-checking, that's kind of what's what I've been using it for.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

That is a new definition for me now.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

Cross-checking.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Yeah. We'll see if we're cross-checking. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

And then I saw hockey and I was like, I learned about it from flight training because it's where you you you have multiple instruments that share the same thing and you're cross-checking like all your data to make sure it all matches. I forgot, I actually forgot about the you just hit somebody.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Uh art says I started using shorts and reels and even TikTok to help me get over the fear of editing. 15, 45 second clips are great for exploring transitions and effects. That's what I I told Tom, I was like, you know what I should do? I should do a 10-day tackle uh for for vertical. Yeah, just to I think I'm just too stuck. Everyone knows what that feels like, right? Like, I think I'm gonna start a YouTube channel. It's like, where the hell do I begin? But if you just make your first 10 videos, just you know, and then ask yourself that question. You're gonna have so much more, um, so much more to go off of, you know, to you'll you'll ask different questions after you make your first 10. I think I need to do that too. Because right now, what I'm doing, I see vertical as like, how can I take a clip of something I've already made that's horizontal? Specifically for it's not vertical first.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

No, and that's that's what I have been.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Like, I wanted to make a clip of the couples table. We are a horizontal, there's no way to make this a vertical. Yeah, unless we cut it and it it would be weird because we're sitting next to each other. There's no way to do it.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:13

So, like, but I've never seen a reel or a TikTok, but I've never seen a vertical thing where it's a podcast clip where the two people are, you know what I mean, where you put the horizontal thing in the vertical uh canvas. I've never seen that. Have you?

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Don't you do that?

SPEAKER_00 37:33

I know I do it, but I don't think other people do it. Yeah, like I don't it never have seen that.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

You do that, but yeah, no, that um like for me, growing growing short form stuff, I'm not really interested in like growing a short form audience because my experience with that has been actually quite negative.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

Oh, yeah, we should talk about that too.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Yeah, I I have found in this way. I can only speak to my experience, the audience and the people that I found, like everybody here through longer form stuff has been really special and really great. And even the people who stop by on one video and ask a question or leave a comment or something, there's a lot, there's just a lot of meat there. And the short form stuff, like that's the only the only video I have on my channel that I have had to turn comments off is a short form video. Like because it's cast such a wide net, and so many people come in with no they don't even intend to end up at your party, and they're like, This sucks, why is this here? Why are you doing that? Like, they don't even know how they got there. Um, but so so I don't have the intention to grow that audience because I just I don't think I can handle it right now. But what I have found that I like is it has been fun to edit for vertical short form. See, yeah, I haven't done that, and that oops, that has been shockingly fun because like whether it's tilting the camera sideways, like taking a nice camera and doing it that way, or just trying to use my phone as good as possible. Vertical first, yeah, and trying to really communicate a thing in like under 60 seconds. It's very different. Like, you know, shot composition is totally different. Uh, visual communication is totally different if you're really trying to focus on taking the same goals when it comes to clarity and concept as I would with a sh a regular video and put it in a short form video, but now it's 60 seconds, and you know, having to add captions because you know someone's gonna watch it on mute and that kind of thing. Like that has actually been really fun, and I've enjoyed it a lot. Uh pick Paul picked up a speed editor on eBay. Nice, rather cheap without the studio license since he already had it. Yeah, that speed editor is awesome.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

That's how that thing.

SPEAKER_01 39:39

Yeah, you always it's it when I don't use it, it's in a drawer, and I think we'll just open the door and start pushing the buttons in my studio. It's very satisfying.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Hey Bailey.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Bailey.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

What's up?

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Was it Monday over there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're on the weekend. You're on the week. Oh. Did you know that Saturday and Sunday are the strongest days of the week?

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Oh god. Are you ready for it, everybody?

SPEAKER_01 40:04

That's because the other days are weekdays. Art says, 100% agree with your thoughts on vertical. I only did it due to more opportunities with pro sports as social media. Yeah. And that's like, I okay, this sweater right here that I'm wearing, I saw it at our team shop, like at the arena. I was like, oh, that's a really cool sweater. It's kind of expensive. I don't need it.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

But you pulled the plug after seeing it. But then I was watching a piece of content.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Well, I was watching all of the like training camp videos, and all of the players were wearing these sweaters like as they're like exercising and getting ready. I was like, God, they look so cool. And then I went back and bought it.

SPEAKER_02 40:46

See.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

It totally worked. I mean, that could have happened in a regular one, but it was the vertical. I do think check a story. Sorry, first, the last thing is I didn't check a story for years because you were doing them and I didn't even watch years because I didn't even know what they were. And then I that's my like favorite thing on Instagram now, is just stories. Making them and watching them. I don't even do anything else on the app.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Well, okay, so oh I forgot what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

Sorry. I said vertical was great, and then I did a thing, and stories. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

No, I mean it'll come back.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Okay. Zen says, Happy Thanksgiving. It's October. Is it Canadian Canadian Thanksgiving?

unknown 41:35

Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

I mean you should be thankful.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

You should be giving Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Hi. Hi is yes in Japanese, by the way. So if I say it, that's what I'm talking about. I don't mean well, I do mean hi, but anyway. What was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_01 41:51

I don't know, I feel so bad. It looked like you had such a brilliant thought. Um yeah, I I'm sorry. Bailey's telling Peter they love the RAV4 video because Peter recently got a RAV4. I also have a RAV4. Yeah. Peter got the new RAV4, and then he has been, I don't know, for the last like two two months, three months, has um been just upgrading it like epicness. Yeah, it new headlights, new like wheels, new tires, new everything. It's very cool.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

Canadian Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Okay, there we go. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!

SPEAKER_00 42:26

There you go. Happy Thanksgiving. Hey Thomas Water is cool, but Heather's hand pink wave. There it is. Outfit today is mega cool.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Heather's hand pink waving.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

This is my first uh opportunity to wear this sort of been waiting because it's still hot.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

I know. Let me tell you, once it gets cold here, it's just take advantage of that hoodie season. I know it's short.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Hoodies are so cool. I wish like oh sorry.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

I was hoping this was true, but I didn't want to assume. What Peter said Tom was the inspiration for the RAV4 because we hung out my RAV4 when he visited last year. Going everywhere. And it was it's actually interesting. Sorry, that's cool because I love my RAV4. Um, I did though, Peter, the one thing I have upgraded on mine, it was $14. I got a center console divider organizer, which I've not had in the seven years I've had the car, and it is You can't stop talking about it. Yeah, I can find everything now. It's been such a mess the whole time. It's the best.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

Uh let's see. If I frame the shots right, I can make vertical content out of it as well as horizontal. All the reels in my ID are crop from horizontal.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

So check it out. This is where the last two, the 11 and 12 GoPros, are really cool because they have full frame sensors.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

So you can crop however the heck you want.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Yeah. So you film, use the whole like big square sensor, and then when you're done, you can take that footage and crop horizontal or crop vertical from the same clip.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

Yeah, we can't do that. We would have to sit all the way over there.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

Yeah. I mean, you can you can do that with any, you can frame wide and then just crop that way, but then you're losing your resolution. And what's cool is this is it's It's still full.

SPEAKER_00 44:01

So what you know what Cap Cut will do?

SPEAKER_01 44:03

I don't know what it will do.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

It'll change who it'll crop based on who's talking.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Automatically. I mean, talk about an AI tool. That's awesome. So if you have two angles, two sh two cameras, you know, it'll just crop for your podcast, which is, I mean, how cool is that? That that's a thing automatically. I haven't found a solution.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

It won't work with us because we're sitting side by side, but it's well a question I get all the time is if you have a multicam podcast setup, how do you do something that that cues that cuts to a camera when somebody's talking? So we have our main thing. And I I think it would do it. It wouldn't we want it want it to be like Google Meet used to be where like someone sneezes? That's why it doesn't have anything like, oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

Yeah, it didn't work for us because it well actually I think what it did was it didn't cut, it panned.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

Yeah, you can increase the pan, but it was I was like, No, but it would be awesome if you know we talk over each other so say we had a three-camera setup here, which is a very typical video podcast set. We have our main thing and then we have our solo camps each. Yeah, um, it would be really cool. Not just every time I talk, because that would be like crazy if every time someone made a sound, but if it can like default to the two-shot. If Heather's talking for more than a second and a half, it cuts to her. If I'm talking for more than like a second and a half, it cuts to her.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

One of us is talking for like a minute.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

If both of us are talking, it knows to cut to the yeah, I feel like that's an AI application. I think we're right there. Yeah, no one has done that yet, though.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

I think I think they're doing it. It's a premium feature. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

It needs to be done. Um Bailey's got first major live audio mixing gig over the next two weeks. Congratulations. Managing and mixing 29 headset mics and a full orchestra for the school's musical, all about 60 mics. That's awesome. I mean, so much experience over that.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Sounds fun.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

Yeah. I know you know this, but I'm just gonna tell you this that you're going to make mistakes, and that's okay. Like, and just because today's show is the best show ever doesn't mean tomorrow's won't be a total train wreck, and just because tomorrow's a train wreck doesn't mean the next days won't be the best ever. So don't um So have fun. Yeah, just have fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:10

Yeah. Uh well, okay. Since we're a quarter, quarter of the hour left.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

How else is content creation life? Um, that's what I was gonna ask you. Yay! Oh my god, I remembered.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Tom watches a lot of YouTube, it's his primary source of uh entertainment more than any other uh like Netflix or whatever platforms or anything like that. Um have you noticed anything different in your consumption of YouTube videos? Like I know I ask you this like every now and then, but are you noticing any like so yeah?

SPEAKER_01 46:51

My consumption of YouTube videos that I watch a lot of Hulu now.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

Oh well that's saying something.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Why do you think that is? You turned red when you said that.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Well, because I've always been like I I like I you know Tom has always been more YouTube than anything.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Um why do you think you like YouTube versus or like why do you what is it that like what is it before, right, that made you go to YouTube versus the Hulus and the Netflix and the HBO and the all the It was like for me, a lot of it was like like I'd get interested in something, whether it was something I wanted to learn, like, oh how do I it's so niche that it's yeah, how do I do this thing with a camera?

SPEAKER_01 47:33

How do I put on hockey pads or whatever? Um, and then I could just dive down the rabbit hole, which I still do that, but a lot of it was also even stuff that was entertainment, you know, like oh, here's like a fun commentary thing, here's just an interesting video, here's whatever.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

And I just feel like I haven't I haven't heard you talk about your commentary channels in a while, actually.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Oh, I still watch them a lot, but they usually upload one video a month. Is the most of them do one video a month. Um so that's what you that's what you get.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

You're like, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

But they're good videos, like, and that's great, you know, and that that's fun. But the other thing is like it's a thing that has happened in the past year is I've tried to learn different things. I tried to learn a lot for flight training, I tried to learn Da Vinci Resolve, and I tried to learn hockey. And um I I found YouTube to be a very bad place to learn things, which made me sad because I feel like it's a very it is a very good place to learn things, but I got it's almost like when you see the matrix, and maybe I got jaded a little bit because it was like as soon as a video starts, I can see like, okay. There is 40 seconds I need out of this nine-minute video. Sorry, it's been uh a couple weeks since I uploaded my last video, but well, even not that, it's just the the like yeah, I mean it's just the if you really like what you're seeing, make sure to hit the like button and yeah, okay, so how to do something in DaVinci Resolve, how to, I don't know, move a title or whatever. Okay, cool. Well, DaVinci Resolve is an editor here, and if you go to Black Results, okay, I if I'm watching this video, I already And that's where when I was learning Resolve, I was like, I'm gonna go to Black Magic's resources. It made me appreciate my and Peter's courses more because I was like, okay, thank God. There's a there's a need for this. Um I just went to the official Black Magic resources because it's literally just a guy at a desk, like just go study. Okay, we're gonna click on file, we're gonna do the they're like and it's the they're the best free resources. Um and so it's almost like unless I have a purpose now, it just very rarely does something actually like catch my interest because I just feel like so much, I can just almost I can almost feel, you know. Well, it's also iPhone season, which I do not give a crap about phones and everything a lot of channels like phones, phones, phones, phones, phones, phones, phones, phones, phones. And then like, okay, um, I'll see you guys in December.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

I don't know why I did this, but I I unconsciously uh decided to never introduce myself in a video ever. Tutorials, vlogs, what whatever it is. Because I just feel like if you are new, you you'll go find out who I am. You know, you'll watch the next video. You I feel like you'll know whether to subscribe or not. I I I do like how um people manage to very cleverly plug in the like comments subscribe. Yeah, it's funny, it's clever, and I I actually it's like a head nod to it. I I like I like how you did that, I see what you did there. Um, but uh I just feel like it's not I find myself when I'm also trying to find information, um doing this, skipping, double tap, skip 10 seconds. Well what I found.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

What I used to feel like was like I if I say I didn't check in, we were out of town or something, I didn't watch YouTube for a day or two, I'd almost feel like, oh my god, I'm so far behind, which would sometimes feel like an embarrassment of riches, like to go through and catch up on everything. And now what I found is if I don't check it for a day or two, I do have my whole list, and then I get to go through, and sometimes there's cool stuff. Like maybe Peter uploaded two videos, I'm like, sweet, I can watch like two interesting videos, but sometimes I like scroll, scroll, scroll, and there's like you've caught up. Yeah, I didn't I maybe watch one thing or nothing. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:20

And that's you know.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

Uh let's see. Peter says Premiere Pro has some AI plugin to do the automated speaker switch. Oh, I'm dumb in Adobe, but I can still use this. It's weirdly perfect. Oh, you should check it out.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

I should check that out. I hate Premiere, but let's put this in there and see what's gotten better.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

I've just Oh, Premiere.

SPEAKER_01 51:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

No, I don't know how to use Premiere, you just don't use it.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

I've I've literally never made a project in Premiere that didn't crash. Well, no, no hyperbole.

SPEAKER_00 51:46

But the what's the last time you've tried that?

SPEAKER_01 51:48

I mean, it's been probably a year, but uh I feel like that's fairly recent.

SPEAKER_00 51:53

I'm gonna record a behind the scenes to try and put together a video, but it might be a lot of running around in frantic movement. That those are exciting videos.

SPEAKER_01 51:59

You know, something you can do though is also just grab shots if you can grab them and then go back and edit a voiceover that explains what it is.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

So you don't have to like be on in the moment.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

Yeah. I'm a troubled soul. YouTube is only learning for me.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

Well, YouTube, like so hockey's been great because I can sit there and actually watch like stretches and gear things or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

There's nowhere else to get that.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

There is nowhere else I can get that super niche info.

SPEAKER_00 52:24

Yeah. Melanie says, Tom, I feel exactly the same. So much is a waste of time. Uh I do the live stream for outdoor ice skating all winter.

SPEAKER_01 52:31

Really?

SPEAKER_00 52:32

Oh wow. I think I I may think about adding camera switching between two cameras.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

It's fun. Camera switching is really fun.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

Uh, what I dislike about YouTube learning now are videos about something that seems simple but have 20 plus minute run times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

And no chapter markers. What about my long video with a chapter marker?

SPEAKER_00 52:48

But Only Murders in the Building.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Yes, we watch we we we discovered it in like we'd never heard about it, discovered it in August.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

August when then when the third season was like about to come out. Yes, we're totally caught up.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

It's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Uh but that but see that's the thing though, is like when it comes to watching other shows, which is for me, is like it's not I'm watching a lot of uh Bob's Burgers and Letterkenny and Um Frasier and like not you know anything insane, but just sitting back and watching something that's like not trying to like bait me into anything. I don't even mean clickbait, but I mean like rage bait me or convince me to buy something or you know what I did when I went offline this summer?

SPEAKER_00 53:30

Because I went offline for three months. I pulled down all my YouTube videos, I did I did not open the Instagram app for three months or any social media app, and I read.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

I read so much. I think I read like 22 books in three months, and it was so refreshing to not to just have like a well-written, well-edited story that like I'm learning, I'm using my imagination, I'm you know.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

But doesn't that go back to the quality thing of like I mean, obviously it is high quality.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Obviously, it's a it's a it's a time sink, you know. Like, but um it was it was just nice to do that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Yeah, there are certain things that I just when that channel uploads a video, I just know this is high quality. Not only is the information good or trustworthy, but even if I'm not trying to get info, if I'm just trying to enjoy myself, like this is gonna be I'm watching something that was built with care, not slapped together.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

It's just interesting because if I look back into our, you know, our ch our uh videos from say even three years ago, I feel like it's very different now. Not just like quality, like of course we've upgraded all our stuff, but like the way that we would you know, the way that you would do disclaimers at the beginning of the videos, or you know, I I think like as consumers of YouTube as well, we know what we like and don't like and we factor that into the way. Yeah, I want to make something I don't like. Yeah, like we are creating a watch experience for the people that we know are watching, and and we're we want to make it something that we would also watch.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Yeah, there's definitely I have a video coming out tomorrow. It is a 30 speaking of long videos, a 37-minute video about the short SM7D video.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Tom and I usually watch each other's videos before we push upload.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

I was like, no, I don't need to watch this stuff. Not that it's bad, but it was like I've already told you everything in it, and like, you know. Um, but that was like, you know, obviously there's chapter markers there, and that's me thinking, okay, in this case, like I'm returning this microphone, so I'm not gonna have it around to test anymore. I want to get everything out all at once, and I want to. This is sort of like my definitive opinion on this thing, yeah. So that way it can it can live as that definitive opinion, and not I don't need to make like five follow-up videos about oh, actually, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Speaking of phones, I got the 15 P Max, but would have liked a video specifically discussing the new lineup with creators in mind. Also, Only Murders has been picked up for season four. That is very great news.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Well, it needed to after that ending.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Yes, Daniel. I'm using uh Final Cut Pro for a while now, and I would typically not watch YouTube videos on it as I will just spend a lot of hours of my life for not much, but still I bought Peter's and Tom's courses. Nice, and I truly learn plenty of new things, less on the interface, more on the editor approach, and I love that. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

The interface, I mean, you kind of pick it up when you I don't know what Peter's approach was for his course, but for mine, what I was thinking was I learn so much when I watch someone edit. Like they don't need to instruct me, but if I just sat here and watched Heather edit a video, I would learn a lot.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

Yeah. Even in even in Final Cut, which I've used for I mean, we always like, hey, look at this new thing I tried every every single time.

SPEAKER_01 56:44

Yeah, just watching someone do something, you learn it. And a lot of it you can learn, like, oh, they clicked that button and it did a thing, but you're learning that while you're watching them, like, oh, that's how you like put in your audio. That's when you organize your screen.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

Like to like notice.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yeah, and to me, that's easier because it it gives the it's it's learning with a purpose instead of just learning like this button does this. You see the why behind it, and then it really sticks.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Yeah. I love only murders in the building. One of my favorite shows because I'm always trying to figure out the whole story. It's a fantastic show. Uh a couple hockey players came by with the purpose stand the other day. Oh, that's from your show.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

It is from my show.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

Uh, Tom, what are your thoughts after the live stream a few weeks ago? More more regular occurrences?

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh it's just been busy, but um, that was cool. I did an hour-long live stream that was very low stress, very low, like not low energy, but it I wasn't dead afterwards. I still was able to have my day. Sure, yeah. And it didn't take two days to prep for, so it's like, oh, it was a fun thing to do on top of everything else. Uh, who says we're seven episodes, but we keep watching episodes.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

You know what Tom and I here we wrap up on this.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

What Tom and I did earlier this summer is did we talk about this?

SPEAKER_01 57:58

I don't know what we're gonna talk about.

SPEAKER_00 58:00

Uh we forced each other to come up with 50 ideas for each other's channel.

SPEAKER_01 58:07

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 58:08

So, like so basically collectively, we came up with a hundred ideas for Tom's channel, video ideas, and a hundred ideas for my channel. He had to come up with 50, I had to come up with 50. And it was fantastic because it was like, okay, I think both of us can come up with each other or come up with video ideas for each other's channels. Like our first 10 are I think obvious. A lot of us would probably have the same ideas, like, oh, this would be cool, that would be cool. People have been talking about that or asking you questions about that. And then when you're like video idea number 25, dang, we gotta get real creative here. Like, what if you tried this, you know? Um, and it was a really fun exercise. Like it was, it was very like insightful in terms of I think also in our like we're at that six, seven year mark of being a YouTube in our YouTube careers. Like, what if we did try that different direction or that different um or you know a lot of the ideas were more like evergreen, also.

SPEAKER_01 59:09

So like they're ones that we can just sort of we each have like a box of we sort of separated them into like this would be a no, this would be a maybe, or the maybes were more like long term, like this is something I want to do, but it's a project. Yeah, and these are ideas that like I could make a video on right now. Yeah, um, and it's kind of cool to have that because if that thing happens where you're just you know, I feel like I want to do something different, or I don't know what to do, just both have it. Grab a thing out of the box and go for it. Um that was really, really valuable to do. And yeah, that was that was a cool thing. And it started with um, you were in my office one day, and I I think I was ranting about something, but I was like, you know, it'd be interesting. Oh, I think I was ranting about like a company that was trying to have their fingers in my business more than I wanted them to. And I was like, you know what if you know I could just say no to everybody, and then what if like I literally just made videos for the rest of the year about stuff that's in this room right now?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Oh, that was what it was.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:08

It's like giving a limitation, and I was like, could do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Yeah, no new stuff, no like you every video idea you come up with has to be like from something that you have in this room already.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

Yeah, and again, the first five would be easy, and then it's like uh here is yeah, like light bulbs.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

Um, but then that's when you were like, oh, let's try this other.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

I feel like those ideas are are more evergreen, more entertaining, more like, you know, not only are you curious if you're curious as the creator, so is the audience, you know. So it's like, oh, we're gonna go on a journey in this video, and it's gonna be like what are we gonna end up?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

We had thought about we had thought about like this could be a fun activity to do at like an event. Like everyone going to eCam right now. It could be kind of a fun pair up with someone and come with 50 ideas for the channel.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

But pair up with someone who knows your channels.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:53

Yeah, because we that's what we agreed, because we created ideas knowing each other as well as we can.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

Like, I know what Tom isn't willing to do, or you know, what what would be a reach and a stretch in a in a good way of like, yes, this might be out of your comfort zone, but I know you're willing to do it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

Yeah, versus something that like either I'm not willing to do or genuinely has no place on the channel, or like whatever. Like, make uh show us like a spaghetti recipe. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

Like I mean, we can all make that video by obviously.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

And so that's you, and I think if you did this activity with someone who you didn't know that well or didn't know your goals that well, they would just give you a bunch of like crazy ideas, like crazy fun YouTube video ideas, but they wouldn't be for you. And so it's very important to if you were to do that, to do it with someone who knows knows you, knows your goals, knows your limits, but knows your content, you know, like they've they've you know watched for yeah, you know, your but really helpful videos or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Yeah, no, that was awesome. Yeah, yeah, it felt like a little like YouTube creator retreat for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:53

Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

Yeah, uh, I love the live stream, says Bailey. Even though the timing isn't always the best for me, I love being in the chat helping with questions.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:00

We love having you here and appreciate everything that you do.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

I was just uh oh, I was napping. I had just woken up for a nap, so I was still in bed and I was watching the live stream, and I was like, look at Bailey plugging in all the links and everything. You're so awesome, Bailey.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

I swear well, now that we watch the Boston and Maine hundred cams, there's a lot of like Australia and New Zealand cameras. Yeah, and so we can always see like, oh, it's morning over there now. And I always think, like, okay, it's morning for Bailey over there. Because then I look at the time and I'm like, okay, so when we stream at this time, this is what it's like for him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Peter Greg, hello, good morning or good afternoon.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

Love the 50 idea thing. Yes, my yeah. See, and your Friday Night Live crew knows you well enough too that they could even exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:40

They've been there. Yeah, they're part of the crew. Live streaming is a form of therapy for the streamer.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

Yeah, it's free. Free therapy.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:49

That is true. That's why I'm glad we're doing this again.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

It scratches a real specific itch, and that's oh, this is cute.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

I will ask my wife for five YouTube video ideas. Yeah, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:00

That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

And it you know, you don't ever have to even do them, but just the ideas there.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

That's the thing. Like, even if you don't do them, it was still good to I don't know. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like, I think you can it it's that thing of like you can get so caught up in the way that you're doing YouTube, yeah, that like I don't know, you get stuck in your ways. Yeah, you get stuck in your ways, but also like what if there's this way more fun way that you're not even thinking about because you're stuck in this way, right? And like sometimes you need the outside party to like help your brain make the connections of like, oh my gosh, this would be really cool. Yeah, you know? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

That's very true.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:45

All right, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

That was a fun discussion.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

Yeah, it was. That was very fun. If you don't know the person channel, I think 50 might be yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

I mean, we well, we did 50, you know, we did 50.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:55

We did 50, yeah, because we could because we could do 50, but let me tell you, oh my god, it was so much harder. It was so much harder to come up with those ideas for my channel. I could come up with 50 for Tom. Like it was so much, it took me so much less time to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

Well, and the bigger number was helpful because it did get the easy ideas out of the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Five or ten ideas was not hard. Like, no, do this, do that. I was like, I have freaking idea 36. 90 more pieces of paper. Friggin' weird over here.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

Yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Alrighty.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:27

Even if I wasn't watching you guys the others, like come for food. Oh, that's so so.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

That's how I feel about your stream too, Peter. It's just I mean, that's that is a live stream thing. Just hearing it on, it's like, okay, all is well.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:37

Unbelievable, my mind seems to work the most constructively early in the morning. That's for us too. Yeah, I usually wake up early, get some business work done before school starts, and then the fourth day of school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:47

So impressive. That's yeah, we're gonna do it. High school. God's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

It's like human chat GPT prompts. Yeah. Well, I think we actually did ask chat first. But then it was it's gonna do the gener, you know, it's very generic, yeah. It's not gonna do it for our specific channels. It's gonna be like a vlog channel or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

I didn't want to. I and I guess here's the last thing talking about AI chat thing. I um ran into a former student, or we repeatedly run into a former student at our gym. Um one of my students from years ago, who's like, you know, he he's already gotten like his nutrition degree. Like he's a he's an adult in his mid-20s at this point. Um but he is going back to school for like uh some nutrition science stuff. And he was telling me like that he at in school, he was always bad at studying and a kind of a bad student because he didn't know how to he either didn't know how to study, if he missed one concept, he really had a hard time bridging the gap. So if he was absent a day or something, and then he would try to ask for help, and teachers would go, you know, well, we have 30 people. I can't go back and like redo what we did yesterday. Like, I can only catch you up so far. And his other thing is he's almost admittedly almost. Like a like a little kid, where it's like, why, why? So you say, Why does this happen? Because this, why, because this? Why? Because this. Um, and especially he's breaking down like, why do certain proteins combine in certain ways and affect these organs or whatever?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:12

How does this thing work?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:14

And he's like, Yeah, so I've always had a hard time studying because I can't, I either can't get the material, I miss the material, or people don't have the patience to deal with me. You know who has the patience for that? Chat. And so he was like even showing me his chat transcripts where it's like, I'll start with a question that like he would go to it with a question his professor couldn't answer. There's no judge chat doesn't judge you, and then just keep drilling down for you know dozens of questions, and it there is no like how many times do I have to tell you? Like it just keeps explaining it, it keeps breaking it down, and then he has the understanding at the end, and it's not just because his big thing was I don't want the answer, I want the why. Like, I want to understand the answer so that when someone asks me, like, you know, can you overdose on multivitamins? I can actually give them more than a yes or no answer. Yes, yeah, and the why behind it. I'm like, that I mean, that's amazing, and that's a really cool learning tool. And you know, he has enough knowledge to also like you this seems completely wrong, like that kind of a thing. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:11

Yeah, yeah, because I think that's gonna be not just a YouTube thing or a chat thing. I think all of us are gonna our our like detection meter for what's true or real is really gonna have to be uh used more often. I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Yeah, I just had the thought too. I know we're supposed to end, but as someone okay. Sorry, we went to a hockey game on Friday, which ended up getting canceled due to a power outage. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

I wish I vlogged. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

That was separate. That was bonkers. It was supposed to start and the lights are supposed to go out to start the show, and then the power just went out. Everyone sat around for 90 minutes and then they canceled the game. Yeah, but I have these really cool, you want to talk about uh whatever it is, like product placement, these really cool PGY tech photography gloves because I get cold hands in the ice rink. Tom they're crazy warm gloves. They even come with a thing that says pour hot water in these and watch how the water, like the steam comes out, but the water doesn't leak out. They're like super warm, insulated gloves. Um, but they have like capacitive fingers, certain fingers lift up and pin back, so specifically, so you could operate like a drone control or a camera. Um they're really, really nice gloves, and I lost one of them at the arena. Don't worry, I've already ordered another pair, but I got it. Wasn't just losing my glove is annoying, it's the sentimentality that I have for inanimate objects. I'm an only child, okay? Look, I didn't have brothers and sisters, but I had my like Nintendo and my gloves and stuff. Yeah, the thought of one shoe, one glove, saddest freaking thing. I'm going to go to the Lost and Found today and just see like did anyone happen to turn in a glove three days ago? It's in the trash. I know it's in the trash. But anyway, um the reason I brought that up was as chat does and AI does become more like communicative, people with my propensity to get attached to things.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

Um I think that's the first thing it's gonna do. It's gonna try to, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:16

I mean, it's it going to be real it's gonna be like that movie her. Like, is it going to be really hard to to like?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:25

I I I would hope not.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:27

I don't think so, because I think that first of all, it's already being done.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:30

I have a soft spot for Clippy the paperclip.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:33

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

You know how many letters he helped me write?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:35

That was like 25 years ago. So if you have a soft spot for an AI before AI was a thing, it would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:42

Yeah, but Clippy couldn't go like hey Tom, how are you feeling today after the thing last week? Oh, like like you know, it it would just like looks like you're writing a letter of recommendation. All right, all right. Well, it's time to clear the table. And yeah, this was fun. So I guess our plan is to tentatively stream this Friday.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:07

Let me look at the calendar. Let me just let me just uh take a little gandy gand here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:12

Friday should hopefully work. I have some dental work this week, so that might dictate the. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

But let's we're gonna aim for Friday.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:18

Should be good by Friday.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:19

And uh I think I'll try to make the um the mailing list form if you want to sign up for so we're gonna create a mailing list on Tom's mailing list, email mailing list where we can send out uh an email 24 hours before the couples table starts. But we're planning on Fridays, just this week was a little tricky.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:40

Yeah, so yeah, we'll keep you updated. Cool. All right, thanks for hanging out. We appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:45

Have a good rest of your weekend.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

Yeah, have a safe, happy, have a healthy, fun rest of your day, and we will see you next time. Bye. Heather's gotta discreetly click the thing.