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Best & Worst YouTube Workflows
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SPEAKER_03And I'm Heather.
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SPEAKER_03Yes. Welcome to episode 94.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_03First of all, how's our audio?
SPEAKER_01We're 90s kids.
SPEAKER_03I know. How is the audio? Let's say hi to everyone as we're checking the audio. Monica has a meeting. We'll catch a replay. Raveling Vlogger Vlogger is here. Gil, Simpliobs, what's up? Jared's big in the house. Mr. Camba Junkie. Mark Cochram. Good evening from the Old England Curiosity Network Podcast. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's we have our delay. I think it's okay.
SPEAKER_03Oh, great. I think it's good. Home sick maggots in the house. Spiral lab. Change the logo. Looks good. Matt from Music City, USA. Miro Davis is here. What's up? Young Joey. What's up? Uh, I don't think I've missed anyone. Rio Pelro. Hello. Action Crypto in the house. Ken Arld. Good evening from No way. No way. No way, Norway. Dash with Ash. Hello, lovely. Good to see you. Maryland. Good evening. I love how you guys all shout out where you're from. Like, isn't that cool?
SPEAKER_01Thank you, Jared, for the text.
SPEAKER_03Business Growth Ready. Uh, good to see you. Dennis, what's up? Audio sounds great, loud and clear. Cool, cool, cool. We have to go to the Creator Hub. Call me Cubbies in the house. Wow. It's great. Sebastian, hi. Audio, it's great. Todd, good to see you. No cap today. You know why? Because look, I got fresh hair and I'm cutting my hair tomorrow. And I'm so excited to cut my hair because I don't think I cut my hair in like two years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Since it's like our wedding, basically, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like right before. So I'm gonna we're gonna go like shave it all off. We're gonna go to the shoulder situation. And I was like, okay, I think because it's gonna be a big haircut, I'm gonna do a no-cap today.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03So that's the reason I thought about this. It looks great.
SPEAKER_01I don't know why the two are connected, but it looks great.
SPEAKER_03Really, I mean, because I've been thinking about my hair so much. I know this is not the topic today, but like, I mean, talk workflow, workflow, okay.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to hair talk.
SPEAKER_03My cap is part of my workflow. And like up here, look at this. My hair is back to black, which is my natural hair color. Down here, it's uh I don't think my hair looks purple, even though if you were to look at it in person, it does look purple, but everything in here is purple, so it's it there's not enough contrast. I don't know. So I've been like, okay, do I bleach my hair again? And I was thinking about going back to blonde. I was blonde at one point. Tom doesn't care, but anyway, I don't have hair to cut. I don't all right. So thanks for joining us. We are excited to see all of you, and today we are gonna be talking about YouTube workflows. So uh I came up with this idea, and I thought it would be a really good discussion because the reason why I thought about it was because I think I was thinking about lenses. I think because you came out with a video the anamorphic lenses. You came out with your video about anamorphic lenses, and let me tell you, I will never use an anamorphic. I won't even use a lens, period, even though I'm using this one, but I don't know what it is, I don't want to know what it is.
SPEAKER_01It's a Canon 35mm F2.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_01So No, that's a sure.
SPEAKER_03The thing with workflows is that the thing that makes it the best or the worst depends on you. So I thought if there is a workflow, because all of us, a lot of us here are YouTube creators, content creators, if there is a a workflow thing as part of your content creation production process that really either leveled things up or totally like you tried and it didn't work, let's talk about it because I know that there are things that you guys know that I haven't tried, and like vice versa. So I think it'll I think it'll be really interesting for you know, it's like a huddle up, right? Like, hey, how do you what do you do? How do you do this? Like, let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_01I know Gil has a new workflow thing happening right now with Podcast. So I saw you mentioning that this morning.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh if you don't mention it, I will. But yeah, because you and I discovered a cool workflow thing. Well, like, it's something that we knew, but we didn't really like realize it until this week, and we discovered it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay. So this was this is why our dryer is in here now. I don't know if you guys can hear that, but the laundry is done. Uh okay, so here's what happened. I I think for the past like one or two months on the couples table, I've alluded and talked about like, okay, you guys version 2.0 Heather Mirez on the youtube.com slash Heather Mirz channel. I'm gonna step things up. I have my creator creed, I've got my new vision. I'm gonna model everything after Tom. I uploaded my video last week and it was like so much fun, and I had my personality, and it was definitely like, you know, I got such good feedback and you could tell and all this stuff. And then today is Thursday, I did not I didn't have a video. Um I tried to make a video, but here's what I realized, and this is part of the workflow for me, is that no matter how willing and excited I am to make a video, I can't make a video during PMDD, which is a two-week period of the month. So, like every basically every two weeks for two weeks, I I can't make a video. I tried to make a video, I put together an outline that I'm actually really excited about, which will, you know, Tom will talk about that workflow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's what I was mentioning.
SPEAKER_03Um, so I worked on this outline, I was so proud of it. And I know that when I come up with an outline and I can envision it, that's what I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a really good video. So I tried to make that video and it just was not like it took me way too long to say one line. One line, you know, and like I edit the talking part and I was I looked at it, and it's kind of like, you know, those of you who have spouses, like I know you guys get when I say if you like you can kind of sense a vibe when something is off, right? So Tom can sense if I'm feeling off, even if I don't know because there's something about my face or just something about the way I'm carrying myself. It's off that like, okay, something's bothering you. That's what I felt when I was editing my own footage. Like I looked at me and I just it just looked forced. It didn't look like the way that I looked in that video I uploaded last week, and like the video I uploaded last week, I was so excited about it. And this time I was like dragging my feet. So finally, I know I've talked about this a lot, but I finally was like, look, I can outline, I can edit, but I cannot get on recorded camera because obviously, like, I'm I'm able I I'm here for this live, but I just can't do the recorded. I just can't do the recorded. It's it's it's like just ineffective. So I have to plan around that. So what I'm doing instead is I'm going to be outlining like four videos so that when I'm back to normal, I can just crunch those out. And hopefully it would be at Tom's level where he has five videos in the freaking hopper at this point.
SPEAKER_01Four today.
SPEAKER_03Four as of today, because the fifth one went out this morning. Yeah. So that's like so I'm not like I the I had to struggle with this because I felt guilty, like, okay, I you know, this was supposed to be my streak, and I broke it after the first week. Like, what the heck? But I look, I'm not doing anything wrong, it's fine. And this is kind of like a another this is a workflow thing that I need to recognize for myself.
SPEAKER_01Well, we talked about because we talked about it for a while. Um, because we were talking about the difference between keeping the streak is a good personal goal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right? Because you're like, I set this goal to do a streak, I'm gonna do that. But making the best video possible is really what's going is what's going to help the channel the most. And right now your main focus is helping the channel the most. So it's not what would be best for the channel is to have the best possible video made. And if you couldn't make the best possible video for today, it's actually better for the channel not to have it rather than like a lackluster video that's But it's like it's so hard to tell because it's easier said than done.
SPEAKER_03I was doing it and I was saying to myself, like, can't I just do this? Like the lines are written, they're right in front of me. Why is this so hard? And then, you know, I eventually got all the talking parts done, but even when I was editing it, I was like, I delivered the line, but it's just it's just not there. I could you could tell that I'm focusing on on like reading the teleprompter in my head. And I was like, I want to make this video where I'm not feeling like, oh my god, I have to make this video, and instead feeling like, oh my god, I can't wait to make this video. And I know that's possible because I did it with a video last week. Yeah. So I'm telling myself this as you know, yeah, I'm talking to myself as I'm saying this. Anyway, we've got comments.
SPEAKER_01We've got comments, including there's one that I want to focus on first. We have a super chat from Gil, and also it's Gil's birthday today. Oh, so thank you for a gift to us on your birthday.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to Gil. Happy birthday to you.
SPEAKER_01Smell like one too. I'm just kidding. Um, yeah, hope you have a great, great birthday and celebrate.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, don't look a day over 21. 29. We were talking with uh Heather's brother yesterday, and he's just gonna continue to turn 29 every year forever.
SPEAKER_03Uh let's see.
SPEAKER_01I saw Matt said you're producing three shows a week, and one is a trip to another state. And I was wondering, does that mean you have to travel to another state once a week, every week? That's a lot.
SPEAKER_03Wow, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You should fly there.
SPEAKER_03Huddle up. What a great idea. You should have a YouTube huddle up. Yeah. Let's see. Dash. My flow is when I want to. As long as I get to two videos a week, I'm happy because I make those videos to help keep my mind steady.
SPEAKER_01Two videos a week is is a lot too.
SPEAKER_03Workflow, batch film. Yes. That's what I I want to get on that.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna talk about that a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. 100% truth, Heather. Your partner could just tell when something's up. Yes. And I feel like it's just so hard because I don't know if this is the ADHD in me or whatever, but like guilt is something that I struggle with, you know, like being really hard on myself.
SPEAKER_01But it's we are both straight, both raised Catholic.
SPEAKER_03So I I'm doing everything wrong. Uh Young Joy, I've been a content creator for two months now in podcasting. I've adapted scheduling episodes, and I haven't missed an episode I post twice a week. See, there you go. Like, let's revisit this in two weeks. And hopefully, my report will be like, guys, I've got three videos in the hopper, and I just can't wait for that moment.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because that's what we're talking about, is on your on weeks, recording as much as you can, because you can edit and you're off.
SPEAKER_03And then by I can't perform, is what it is. Like, I can't like the Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The hard thing though with the scheduling thing, because obviously that's like my number one trick is having stuff scheduled, but the hardest part is getting the initial batch of videos to schedule, because in order to do that, you have to make more. Like, you you know, you can't just schedule one, you have to make two or three and like schedule them out, and that's hard because you're working two or three times as much to get that done. But if you can manage to do that between now and a month from now, then that means when you're KO'd again, it's not going to matter because there's going to be a really good video that's just ready to go, and you don't have to worry about it. And like, I think that getting to that point is a very, very good goal to have.
SPEAKER_03I s it's yeah, it's hard though. It takes a lot of extra effort to get it. It's hard.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh Spiral Lab, I totally get that, Heather. I'm so glad you didn't push through. You've learned something important that will serve you in the future way more than a video today.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think though, early, like early in your creator journey, the pushing through part is also important. Like make proving to yourself that you can keep going, you can keep making videos, even if the video isn't going to be the best one or help the most for the channel. That is an important thing to learn that you can do. But later on down the line, it's important to know when not to do that too.
SPEAKER_03Uh Aubrey says, I totally have the same problem. I've been getting down myself a ton. Um, if you ain't feeling it, the viewers definitely ain't feeling it. Right. That's the thing. Yeah, I mean they have to especially like my creator creed really helped because I read it and I was like, I don't feel this. Like I get it, but like I'm not I'm glad you have that. It's not translating. I could tell. Like this this, what I'm watching is not the same as the person who wrote this. Period. So yeah. Uh this is different than perfectionism. There you go. That's actually a really good Yeah, it is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because it that I feel like that's where the guilt comes in. It's like I don't know, pushing through. There's something there. Mark says banking content is such a big thing for me. I'm Podcaster. In order for me to cope with the workload, I will bank a whole bunch of episodes, which takes the pressure off.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_03Uh let's see. Don't panic. My mother told me that. No worries. You're almost 40. Uh Kathy in the house. Happy Thursday. Hot tub lady. Hello, everyone. How are you, peeps?
SPEAKER_01Thank you for your help earlier, Jackie.
SPEAKER_03Uh, not flyable. Four hours by car, but the flight would be five to six because it's in the boondocks, Alabama. But I'm getting my pilot, and that would be better.
SPEAKER_01You can fly and you just go for it.
SPEAKER_03Andrew, batching for the winning podcasts are easier. Batch three last week. Down side of live streaming. You can't do this. However, I've been repurposing my live content into micro content.
SPEAKER_00Smart.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Smart, smart.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so why don't you talk about the thing that was kind of related to what I talked about?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, there's sort of so I'm gonna transition in a couple ways. So the first thing, people mentioned batch stuff. I've had the workflow. We talked about this a couple weeks ago when we were mentioning things we learned from Peter. But the workflow for me has pretty much always typically been working on one video at a time. That's just how my brain works. And lately, like since Peter was here and I was watching him keep track of six videos at once in his head, I've been trying to sort of be a little more aware of hey, this situation I could be making, you know. Maybe I can be doing things for more than one video at a time, but I don't want to overload it because that just doesn't work for me. And a thing that happened this past weekend was I had spent a few days outlining a video, which that's what I want to talk about next is outlining, but I spent a few days outlining a video, days outlining a video. It was ready to go, and then I had everything set up. I literally the night before I was gonna record, I spent an hour making sure everything was set up because it was three cameras, top-down shot, like the whole thing, everything set up, ready to go. So the next day, all I had to do was like refresh myself on the outline and sit down and hit record. And I did that, and because I did that, the raw footage was only like 21 minutes. That's amazing. Yeah, sometimes I've had three and a half hours of raw footage for videos from the three cameras before. So 21 minutes, I was like, wow, do I even need to edit this? The answer was yes, I do. But it's way easier to edit a 21-minute video, and it went so fast, and I spent so much time setting up. I was like, okay, I have a setup right now that's multiple cameras and a top-down shot. It was a roadcaster-related video, and I was like, I should make the use of having this setup, but I didn't have another video outline. But I had an idea of like, I there's a video I want to do, maybe I could just wing it. And so I winged it again for another 20 minutes, and then ended up with a second video. And by the end of the one day, that was on Sunday, I had not only recorded the two videos, but I had actually edited and uploaded both of them and main thumbnails for both of them. I've I don't think I've ever fully finished two videos in a single day. And the funny part is I think if anyone were to watch the videos side by side, you wouldn't be able to tell which one was the outline one, which one wasn't. Like, which feels really good in terms of the ability to like we've got the experience, yeah. Yeah, I guess that's the experience, but it's also like I spent days outlining this, and the one I just like made up. We were able to do that, right?
SPEAKER_03And he was doing this at the same time I was attempting to record my video. He came out of a studio with two videos done. I came out of my studio and I was like, Negative one. I can't do it. I can't do it. I felt so bad.
SPEAKER_01I know I was so excited I wanted to tell you, but I was like, I also don't want to tell you because I don't want you to like be hard.
SPEAKER_03I know you're I want to be happy for you, but I definitely felt like defeated. I came out just like, you know, you came out victorious. I felt I felt real sad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, yeah. So that was that was like batch recording is a thing that I've had a hard time doing. The reason I was excited about this one is in the past, when I've tried to batch record, they obviously have to be kind of basic videos, usually screen recordings or talking head videos, because by nature they they're gonna be kind of similar. And my problem is they have in my brain merged into one video where it's like tonally they kind of feel the same. Even the thumbnails end up looking the same, and I just feel like neither one shines as much as I would want it to if it was just like the one video I worked on. And what I was really happy about on Sunday was both videos feel like they have their own clear purpose, their own clear identity. Even the thumbnails are entirely different for both of them, so it really feels like two completely separate things, and that made me really happy. It it nothing feels phoned in or like halfway done. Right.
SPEAKER_03No, I mean you worked the whole day and then the next day because you had two videos.
SPEAKER_01Well, I had to caption, I had to end up captioning three videos the next day, and captioning takes a long time, but uh but that was cool because batch recording is something you that I can't always do, and it was really cool to dabble in that. Um, but it all started because I did have the original video outlined really well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And you and I were spending the last week working on outlines, right? We discovered something about outlines, which we will talk about as soon as we check in with comments.
SPEAKER_03There's only one thing I say, tech for your needs, just don't let this moment be longer than they need to be, because then the days will turn into weeks and months and so forth. Uh, totally, totally true. This is another thing. So it is you you know, about finding that like, am I pushing this off or am I really taking the time because things actually need to marinate and that will make things better? Um and I have been doing this long enough to to know that to know that this is the way to do it. Time will tell if I have my videos actually done, but I I feel like that the that's the final piece left. Um But I I do think that you know if I were starting from scratch and didn't have the data to kind of prove this, like yeah, go make the videos, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the the yeah, yeah. You have to really it's it requires so much like self-it's all self-awareness, yeah. Which is very hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, Andrew says, thanks for giving me gas, Tom. Uh gotta get me an RCP2. Love your video. Thank you very much. Only get it if it's actually going to suit your workflow, though. Uh, make sure you actually need it. And I saw earlier Mac was saying uh he was sitting back, Mac was sitting back learning the Rodecaster and feeling it wasn't as intuitive as he thought it would be. But what I will say is I felt the same way about the mixcast when I had been using the Rodcaster and I got the mixcast to review. I was like, wow, this makes no sense to me. So it's just that learning curve of something different. But obviously, like you were a pro with the mixcast, and now you'll be a pro with the roadcaster. Uh so it just takes time and yeah. Uh anyway.
SPEAKER_03Uh mine are talk shows and I uh so good at switching, we record via ATM Extreme. The edit only takes two, three hours. Uh Andrew, captioning is one of the biggest reasons I've stuck with Premiere. Captioning is built in and has saved me tons of time in editing.
SPEAKER_01I've heard Premiere has good captioning. I know Final Cut has some kind of captioning, but I don't know like how to just put out like the SRT file. So I've been using I was using Rev because they do it for you, but at least I always need to double check it because some things are just very specific. And so it's it actually takes a lot of time to double check it. And because it's not instant, you know, you have to wait. In my case, it was usually 15 to 20 hours before the file came back. It like it's really frustrating to finish a video, upload it, and now I'll wait another 20 hours before I can get the caption file. So I've been using Descript, which is basically instant, but also like wildly inaccurate. And so then I have to go through even more than I did with Rev to correct it. But that's okay because I like I like putting extras into the captions, but it just takes so much time.
SPEAKER_03Hi, Dr. Sev. Oh wow. It's been such a long time. I feel like I'm a YouTube newbie. It's good to see you, good to hear from you. Okay. Two questions.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03First, from Andrew, what has been your favorite tool for managing your workflow?
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's yours.
SPEAKER_03Uh probably Notion. The thing that I've been using lately is the Notes app for Mac. Uh but like I I think I've been using the Notes app now because I discovered folders. And so I just click on folders, and then all of my video ideas are just, it's like one note per video idea. And I just have a template and it makes it really easy. Um I I use Notion a lot for um what is it called? Archiving. So I have like every single video I've ever created, every couple table episode, the corresponding URL, like all of that is in Notion.
SPEAKER_01I do not have anything like that.
SPEAKER_03I used to uh have the production process in there, but something was telling me that I need to simplify a little bit.
SPEAKER_00Simplify.
SPEAKER_03Simplify. So now I'm I'm just using the notes app with like there's only one thing to find.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the notes app is my absolute, absolute favorite because it is so simple. It has the really easy checklist feature. And especially if you're on your phone, the checklist is just a tap to check.
SPEAKER_03What do you what does everyone else use? Your favorite tool for managing your workflow.
SPEAKER_01But that's the the beauty of the notes app is which I know other things do. I think Google Docs or Notion or whatever, but like whether it's computer, phone, or iPad, whatever device I'm on, I can just open up the document and add a thought to it. So even if it's like, you know, I'm getting ready for bed at night, and I'm like, oh, this would be a great way to start that video. Instead of hoping I'll remember or writing it down, I just quickly toss into the document like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think that was the reason why I didn't intuitively go to Notion first, is because like I have to open the app first, even though you have to open the notes app. I don't know, it just wasn't like as easy for the notes app is also just so basic and simple.
SPEAKER_01Like Notion, you can obviously create you can make it basically it can be basic. But the notes app by default is just there's nothing there.
SPEAKER_03It does not, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I love that.
SPEAKER_03Uh cool. So young Joey says, in a workflow of batch recording, how do you keep the creative unique creativity unique with each video? And will creativity suffer in quantity over quality? So as someone who's been batch, or you haven't been batch recording, I no, that's that was what I was talking about.
SPEAKER_01That's why I've tended to avoid it, is because well, okay, batch recording as in like the studio is set up, and I'm gonna sit here and talk about a topic, and now sit here and talk about another topic. It is really hard to differentiate. And for some reason I don't do that. I I tried it and I I for some reason last weekend I was I think because one video was already really outlined, and maybe if I had a second that was really outlined, it would have been okay. Um, but they were because I guess one was outlined, one was improved, it felt very different. Um, it's really hard, which is why I tend not to do it in the studio setting. But when we're working with Peter and we're out in different locations and working on different videos at once, it was a lot easier because everything, like, you know, like we're in Joshua Tree, and it's literally like, okay, we'll go on this rock and film this part, and that'll be a really cool thing for this video. And now I'll go stand by this Joshua tree and film this part, and that'll be a really cool shot in this other video.
SPEAKER_03Like your but your videos also were totally different. So it's like I feel like it's easier to differentiate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was going like, okay, this is a video about anamorphic lenses, this is a video about a gimbal. Like they're not the same topic at all.
SPEAKER_03If I were doing well, actually, I I I take that back. I remember recording two Canva tutorials back to back because I was like, I have everything set up and open.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um so I don't know. I just like if I'm thinking about my workflow, I prefer doing one video at a time. So if that means I rec if that means I record two videos in a day, that's fine. But I would want to get at least the first pass edit of the first one before working on the second one. Just because like I can, you know, I can only work on one thing at a time. Well, we'll see what everyone else has to say about that. Let's see. Where are we? Hey friends. Also, Dan.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Dan. Wherever you're at, I hope you're okay.
SPEAKER_03So, yeah, so best uh get well soon to Sam, but also I don't think I've told you. Congrats on the whole career change.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you've had a very busy month.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Uh, what is this? I can't see.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, look at Patrick. He said Premier's captioning is incredible. It will process the text within a few minutes so you can edit in real time.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01That is very cool.
SPEAKER_03Uh I like that. I use the script, Mr. Cameron.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Descript is good, and I know it learns with you. And Descript is the AI engine that the script uses is the one that Rev uses initially, and then like a human fixes it. But I just hated the time that it was adding on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I bought a physical calendar and I write my shoots or anything on there, it's been more helpful than anything.
SPEAKER_01Oh man, when I was teaching, I had the big like we have this desk mat here. I had the big like physical calendar on my desk. I love crossing stuff out, drawing an arrow.
SPEAKER_03You had like a physical calendar on my own.
SPEAKER_01No, what the heck is that? No digital calendar has ever, ever come close to the big old table desktop calendar.
SPEAKER_03Notes for me, also. Uh, craft has been my favorite lately. Craft. Is this an app? Tell me more. Notes is good, instantaneous. Google keep. Google keep. Uh Amina, hi. I was using Notion. Now I'm trying to use Obsidian. Why does that sound familiar?
SPEAKER_01Sounds cool. I don't know. It just sounds cool.
SPEAKER_03Uh I use a creator planner that Tom and Heather sent me. Yay!
SPEAKER_01Hey, that's also a good one. The Ecamm creator planner.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's a physical planner.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh my app is Notion 300%. Maybe that's why I don't produce any recorded videos. Uh see, I use Notion and Google Keep. I'm still learning Notion. Google Keep keeps all my notes. What is Google Keep? I need to look into this. Is this well? Notes works for me, but Google Keep.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is it like a note?
SPEAKER_01I don't know what it is. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03We write a text script via shared pages template. The shoot is its simple note checklist, and then I get track of all the links.
SPEAKER_01Okay. And that's for a team situation too. If you we're we're talking about working by ourselves. Yeah, solo. So definitely different if you're working with.
SPEAKER_03So actually, I have I have I am part of a team, the Mighty Networks team, to do production for their videos. And for that we use Notion. And that's the best because it's collaborative, right? Like people can work on it at the same time. People can contribute to the same thing. Notion is great for that. Uh Sparla. I'm doing weekly vlogs right now and I'm editing one video while also filming the next one. But that's very recent. I'm not sure it's actually working long time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I just gotta wait and see.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Also asked my wife to remind you.
SPEAKER_01I thought you said rewind you, and I was very confused. Like I just confused.
SPEAKER_03You should have done a third video using that.
SPEAKER_01An anamorphic lens on a gimbal with a roadcaster.
SPEAKER_03So do you want to talk about the outline thing?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That was the big thing that Heather and I both discovered. Both, yeah. It was something we'd been kind of doing, but it like acknowledging it, I guess. It was big.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But it was big because we both acknowledged it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So uh what we've been doing is outlining our videos, not necessarily writing full-on scripts, uh, but just like I do bullet points. Yeah, bullet points. I will I will personally usually outline or script if there's something very specific, which is usually like an intro to a video, because there's like wordplay or something really specific I need to mention. Um that will be more scripted. And then while I'm recording, I just have the notes app. In half of my videos, if you see the computer screen, you just see the notes app up on the computer screen, uh, which is fine. And I just kind of look and go like, okay, this is the next line. And I I don't really care if it's word for word. I just usually, unless there's like wordplay that needs to be word for word, um, but otherwise just try to deliver that. And that has worked great. But what has been really helpful is spending more time on the outline. So, like, yes, if I know tomorrow I want to film a video, a thing that will be really helpful is to spend today outlining it and just starting with a brain dump of like, okay, this is what I want the video to be about, need to hit these points, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_03Brain dump, yes.
SPEAKER_01Taking a break, coming back to it a few hours later, and then kind of now organizing it into sections. And this is all just like trying to get all the info out there, double checking things, especially if it's like if it's a technical thing or if I'm saying a fact, I want to make sure it's all correct. And then the next day, the next day after a night's sleep, come back to it, and that's where I try to make it entertaining and like, okay, this is repetitive. I can merge these, cut this out. I start editing it, revising it, and that's where I start looking for places like where could I do something stupid or something silly, or where, you know, what could the intro hook be? And start adding in all those like finer points. Um, sometimes lately I've even been spending kind of two days on this process, and then the next day coming back and like trying to refresh my mind on okay, this is how I was feeling. This is like the vibe that I had and that I want to capture, and then recording with that. And that process of like outlining and coming back to it repeatedly over a day or two or more to absolute game changer.
SPEAKER_03So mine is similar, but uh but a it's the same approach, but a different philosophy, I guess, or a different way of looking at it. So here's what I did I wrote an outline for a video, like brain-dumped, waited, came back to it, and then flushed it fleshed it out a little bit more. We need to talk about that too. Fleshed it out a little bit more to where um because because this feels like a a new like a new version of me. I don't know if that's the best way to say it, but a new version of me with my channel. I I want to be more um prepared.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So I so I am I do do bullet points, but I do kind of like write it out a little bit more than I probably would. Um and then I try to make it the best outline that I can. Like I I even go so far to like storyboard. Okay, so what what is what what is the viewer looking at? And I try to include like show this on screen and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I do that sometimes too. Like cut to this shot here, intro here, just as a reminder, because it's so easy to forget. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03When you're fine. And then what do I what I did this past time was like I was just so convinced that I was like, this is it. There's no way to make this outline better. I should just record it now. This is the impulsiveness in me, right? The ADHD part of me that's like, I'm ready. The outline is fresh. Like I should just do this right now, capture it in the moment. Like I'm feeling it, let's go. And I was like, you know what? It wasn't even like 11, you know, I like in the morning. I totally had time. But I told myself, like, okay, if this is like if I'm trying to do things differently, I have to do things differently. Like, I have to tell myself, calm down, sit down, okay? And like just wait a second, like, wait your turn, you know? And so I slept on it. I revisited the outline the next day, and I couldn't believe how much I rearranged, edited, took things out, added new things. Like I was convinced that that was the final version. And then when I slept on it, looked at it again with fresh eyes and I said. You were amazed at how you I couldn't, it was not even the same video. Like I completely rearranged things, and I just that's when I went to your office and I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that I I would have left it at that. Like I was gonna record it. Yeah, and it wouldn't have been bad, but I know it wouldn't have been as good. Yeah, like I made it better. So now the learning, you know, from that is always like always give, especially like I wouldn't do this for vlogs or whatever, but for videos that I plan to have long shelf life, like tutorials on my tutorial channel. I want those videos to be the best that they can be because I know that someone can watch them for the next couple years. I want to make them the best that they can be. So I want, you know, I'll do whatever I can to make it the best video. And I'm just I'm so glad that I waited. Yeah, that it was like talk about something that like I would never intuitively think to build into my workflow, but seeing just seeing the difference, I don't know how it works. Like, I don't know what my brain is.
SPEAKER_01And I think too, when you're when you process a thing like, okay, I've been working on this all day today, and you feel like it's done, or you could get done. I I think it's easy enough to realize how much you're actually rushing it, or you kind of like see the light at the end of the tunnel. So I could finish it, I could be done with it. But if you pause it and then you come back to it, it's like now you have fresh perspective, you're not fatigued, you're like, hey, yeah, no, this idea here. And like you said, your brain overnight is like ideas resetting, yeah. Yeah, and you're making connections that weren't there the day before, and you're like, wait, this point, and this point there's there's a physiological process that happens probably so.
SPEAKER_03There really is. And I don't care. I just like I want to respect it. Like, I get that it's part of it now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, let's see. Oh, cloud-based. So Google Keep is cloud-based, like Google Docs, um, part of the messy Google Apps platform. Right.
SPEAKER_01I just think of weird icons that all look kind of the same to me.
SPEAKER_03Google Keep is like quick notes interface, anything you could bullet point or write, and you can keep a file in Google Drive. Use it for grocery projects, ideas, movies to watch, etc. That creative girl, I just do notes, write down a quick outline, and I don't like things to be too strict because then it ends up being really boring. And if I'm bored, the audience and no bash recording.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I used to do the actual physical notebook and outline there. And then, like literally, I would just have it on the desk. Even in the shot while I was recording, I would just check off things. But there were too many times that I found, I don't know if that's what you're talking about, it reminded me of. That's there are too many times I found myself, as much as I like the physicality of the notebook, having an idea like going to bed, notebooks in the office. I'll remember it.
SPEAKER_03No, no. Good morning, Bailey. If you ever tell yourself, No, I won't forget this.
SPEAKER_01Like, you'll forget it. 100%.
SPEAKER_03And then every time when I finally do remember, I'm like, I knew it. I knew I was gonna forget. Paul Duncan's in the house. Teleprompter are good bullet points. I tried a teleprompter, it was terrible. So that was like two years ago. I I'm never gonna try again. It was enough. I I just can't, I can't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I have a prompter, but I I haven't used it, I hardly ever use it. I mainly do use it if I do a lot of like consulting or video calls and I use it as a like zoom monitor.
SPEAKER_03So you don't use it for I don't use it as the actual teleprompter.
SPEAKER_01But I do know a lot of people who instead of using the teleprompter for script, they use it to put their bullet points. Or um a thing that a lot of people use is keynote. They outline the or power PowerPoint, they outline their script in keynote, and then they can, it's almost like they're doing a presentation for themselves because they can just go forward and backward slide by slide. And that's pretty smart.
SPEAKER_03Patrick, Tom, in your video today, did you overlay that YouTube channel post, or was that a shot of your computer stream look wacky vivid?
SPEAKER_01Uh no, that was in post. Uh it's the thing I stole from Raphael um of like trying to make things look semi-holographic because I Oh right. Yeah, I put I put it there, I reduced the opacity, and then I played with the perspective on it and like stretched it a bit.
SPEAKER_03Is it opacity or opacity?
SPEAKER_01I say opacity.
SPEAKER_03Opacity.
SPEAKER_01I don't know that's what I say. That doesn't mean I'm right. That's just what I say.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what it is. But yeah, the it you like make it you put the screen like here and you tilt it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so you you basically make one end bigger and one end shorter. So it's like perspective. Um it looks like a physical thing that's facing away from the camera and kind of like going over here.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so just this whole thing that we're talking about right now. If you haven't seen what Patrick's talking about, go watch Tom's video from this morning. But as soon as Tom edited this video, immediately he called me and was like, Heather, come take a look at this. And even though what Tom does is a lot of what we do, which is talking head videos, tutorial videos, talking about a thing, videos, like it's not vlogs, it's not like, you know, it's not environmental based, like you know, the environment around you. There's still ways to keep things exciting, try new things. And if you find yourself like, oh my god, I'm excited to show you this, like I think that's a signal that it's you know, because I when I if you didn't see my video from last week, I'm like so proud of it. Um, I definitely was doing that multiple times as I was editing it. I was like, Tom, look at this. Like, Tom, I want to show you this, but I want you to watch the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, that's a good feeling to have. It's a good sign when you're making a video.
SPEAKER_03All right, four outlines. I stick to bullet points only because I want myself to be as natural as I can be and not sound like I'm reading off a script.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01I think that's reading off, yeah, it takes a lot of practice to read off a script naturally.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, you can totally do it, and people are obviously the people who are really good at it, you don't know that they're reading off a script. Like what I'm saying right now is actually in a prompter right here. No.
SPEAKER_03This actually works really well with outlining for two weeks and then filming two weeks. That workflow has built in wait time.
SPEAKER_01That's true.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm very I'm telling you, I'm feeling good.
SPEAKER_01That's a that's true.
SPEAKER_03Uh somebody stopped me from partially outlining like 25 videos and not one finished.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that's a problem too.
SPEAKER_03Uh let's see.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Andrew uses a prompter with Canva showing notes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm going to start filming Elden Ring videos. Are you a gamer? Which I want more intuitive with an outline. I hear you on that. Zen. I've been playing. Well, I checked my playtime this morning on Final Fantasy 14. I hit six days and 11 hours. I so like what's six times 24?
SPEAKER_01Math.
SPEAKER_03A lot.
SPEAKER_01If you watch my video today, you'll know I'm bad at math.
SPEAKER_03Uh I use oh. Oh, with Canva showing my notes. Oh. Matt. It's obvious Tom doesn't use a prompter with all those puns.
SPEAKER_01Some of them. I'm always proud. Today there's one specifically that has been brought up in the comments repeatedly, and it's one I made up as I said it in the first take.
SPEAKER_03And you were so excited.
SPEAKER_01That makes me really happy when like it just like I started the line not knowing it, it just happened, and then it's done, and I don't have I'm not like redoing it, and then it ends up being the one people like. That feels really good.
SPEAKER_03Peter Greg, I see white on the right. Let it Lewitt will do it.
SPEAKER_01Yes, this is the Lewitt LCT 240 Pro, and it is absolutely an awesome microphone.
SPEAKER_03Google Keep is great for quick voice notes because it'll transcribe that note. I used to do that a lot when I before I lived with Tom, I drove everywhere. So it took me, you know, I was living in LA, took at least half an hour or 10 hour to get everywhere. And I would just do voice memos when I had like thoughts in traffic.
SPEAKER_01I have the voice memo app on my watch because when I ride my bike a lot, that's where I come up with ideas, but I don't want to like type it out or anything. So I'll just take a break, hit the voice memo thing, and like, especially if there's something involving cadence or rhythm or wordplay, that's where I can like remember what it was supposed to be.
SPEAKER_03Uh Aubrey says, I decided that I shouldn't read a script off teleprompter. I use it for eye to eye kind of feel. Yeah. So you're so you can look at Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's it's hard. You get out of the zone, you look over here, read your note, and then jump back. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Gerald undone writes a full script. Well, he has to.
SPEAKER_01He's he's like the the poster child for like that that sort of like every word has a place, is right as accurate as it needs to be.
SPEAKER_03No error.
SPEAKER_01But it's also like he I mean, I think he's talked about it being in a in a place where because he's established himself as credible, not that he would say he's an authority or like whatever, but you know, you kind of trust him, he's a trustworthy source. People then are out to like find mistakes and they're out to discredit because just for because people suck sometimes. And so by having his script so everything is like fact-checked, correct, not mispronounced, not words flipped, it really, really helps. He was even our member. I always think of this when I type the Sony A7S3 because he was so specific on like it's technically written lowercase a capital S seven three things, or he said capital seven, and that was funny. I think of that every every time I type it out, I do lowercase a, capital S, capital Seven, and then three capital I's uh Josh is here.
SPEAKER_03What's up, Josh? I love Elden Ring, it's my first video game.
SPEAKER_00Really? That's quite a game to dive into for number one.
SPEAKER_03Ever? Wait. Ever. Like RPG or ever.
SPEAKER_00You've struck a chord over here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Oh, okay. There's an energy that's like emanating. Bye, y'all. Got everyone, pick up my daughter, slowly making my way back to YouTube. Well, we're excited that we're excited for your return, Dr. Sev, and we're here for it. When you start recording, do you keep the camera rolling even if you make mistakes or clip by clip? That is a very great question.
SPEAKER_01That actually ties into further workflows.
SPEAKER_03I 1000% kick Ben.
SPEAKER_01Oh no.
SPEAKER_03That's because I don't know why he has to sleep right under here, dude. There's a couch over there.
SPEAKER_01Do you you keep recording?
SPEAKER_03Well, because I use Ecamm, I pause.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I pause all the time. Um, well, not all the time. I I usually break my outlines into sections. So the intro, I do the intro and then I pause. And then I'll do like, you know, bullet point number one and then I'll pause, or do the outro and then 'cause in e cam, you can pause the recording and then resume it, and when you're
SPEAKER_01Done, it's still one file, but with like built-in jump cuts.
SPEAKER_03I do um I do separate it. Uh like if if my tutorial includes an outline, then I do all the talking head first in one file and then the screen share in another file. But yeah, I'm a big fan of the record recording pause.
SPEAKER_01So what I have done, I used to do multiple takes. Um, especially I don't know if Peter TC is here, but when I was using Canon, I had to because of the 30-minute limit, I would always butt up against it. And if I was doing a take and I was in like the 20s, I was like, I'm getting nervous. But with the Sony workflow, there's no record limit, so I can keep going. And I like to keep going because when I put at least the main talking head file, which there's usually two, there's usually the main camera and then like the B camera. So it's two long files. I can then edit the whole thing at once. Like I can adjust the audio all in one thing, and I can add in, you know, like I can adjust the color and whatever. I can do all that at once instead of having to apply something or layers to multiple clips or anything. It's all one clip. So even if I like stop and need to go get something, I usually just leave the camera recording. And then when I'm editing, I get really excited because I see there's like a 90-second chunk where I'm not even in the frame. Yeah, so you can delete. Just cut out 90 seconds. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03That's funny. Uh, let's see. Ellen Ring is all the reach, but I'm more of a Sims gal. I was both of us were super into the Sims, but it's been a while. Did you ever? I think the last one I played was on my phone.
SPEAKER_01I was in high school last time I played the Sims, so it was What? It was it was when they had the hot date expansion pack.
SPEAKER_03I have I still have the box for that one in my bedroom. Not my not this bedroom, but my parents' house. But uh let's see. I'm into the Sims racing. I have a big a big incentive that I'm looking at taking online with the help of you both. I now have some serious camera gear for the production side. That's awesome. Racing car titles. Matt, I was in a Halo clan for 10 years. Did you play Halo 2?
SPEAKER_01You know what I wouldn't have guessed?
SPEAKER_03I really like that we could talk on Ventrilo. Did you play? I was so into Halo 2. It's insane. Like, I would check the bungee boards for like my ranking. This is how I met James.
SPEAKER_01Like one of your best friends to this day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like, well, we did. It was after the first class where we met, and then we went to a computer lab. And the first thing I did was check my Halo ranking. And he's like, what is this girl checking her her video game ranking or whatever? And then we were friends ever since.
SPEAKER_01Yep. I mean he might be in the chat right now.
SPEAKER_03But I I can't get I can't play first person shooter anymore because I get motion sickness. It sucks. First world problems. I tend to record, pause, and edit what I recorded, then continue recording. Really? I could never do that.
SPEAKER_01Interesting. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_01I was reading Peter's.
SPEAKER_03I now play Mech Arena. Splatoon 2 is great, but we haven't played it.
SPEAKER_01I have the Splatoon switch controllers. The Platoon. The colors are cool.
SPEAKER_03I do what Heather does now, but I remember back in the day I had a 20-minute limit on my Nikons.
SPEAKER_01It gets distracting when you know there's a limit and you can't. Yeah, because you feel like you're counting down.
SPEAKER_03Guess what new camera is? No recording limit. Guess. Go ahead, guess.
SPEAKER_01Canon R7. Canon took away recording limits. What wait the uh three years after the law expired?
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_01The R7 is a new camera that's not out yet. Peter has pre-ordered it. Um it's Canon's first crop sensor mirrorless camera, so it's mirrorless.
SPEAKER_03But what was the last Canon camera that you talked about?
SPEAKER_01Like the R5.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so it was the R5, yeah. You have that one.
SPEAKER_01No, I I pre-ordered it and it cancelled.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I have I have the Canon R, which was their first mirrorless camera, but it has a 30-minute limit. Um, I think maybe some of their newer ones, like the R3 and the R5C, don't. But yeah, the R7, which is cool because it's not as expensive with those cameras.
SPEAKER_03Um wow, they came out with a werewolf DLC.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow. I was thinking um the 360 camera would be fun for werewolf to make a 360 video. Yeah, and then you can spin around and see what who's like moving cards around and stuff.
SPEAKER_03That would be real fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I meant to tell you that like two days ago, I forgot.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Anyway, that's not related to this, but there's a board game called Werewolf.
SPEAKER_01And it's very fun.
SPEAKER_03It's like my favorite thing. Every time I get my friend to get together, like once every two years. Uh, I'm like, can we please work play werewolf? Because you have to play with at least four people.
SPEAKER_01The more it is really the more the merry.
SPEAKER_03It's like Mafia, if you guys have played that game. Anyway. Uh wow, I didn't read the comments. Canon R3 doesn't have a recording limit.
SPEAKER_01Uh Matt's asking Peter how many cameras he has. Peter is so interesting to me for many reasons, but because camera-wise, he's used to be a like diehard canon person like me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But has is I would call Peter brand agnostic at this point because he really, unless I'm speaking wrong, correct me, please. Um, seems like it's more about okay, I'm just gonna look at try this camera out, see how it is, try this, see how it is, and just go like, this is good, this is not as good. Because I know like in your setup now, you've got Sony's and Nikons and an Olympus, if I'm not mistaken, um, and a canon on the way. And I think the main one has been like a Nikon for a while. And yeah, I think that's cool because it's just sort of like you're not tied down to any kind of loyalty.
SPEAKER_03Look at this beefy boy.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I know. I wanted to show this.
SPEAKER_03Look at this thing. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01For people who are listening to audio only, what are you talking about? I know.
SPEAKER_03Okay, let me let me try and do this. I'm gonna be a tom here. Okay. This is a microphone with a cage. Is that what it's called? Shock mount.
SPEAKER_00Yay!
SPEAKER_03And um I'm guessing it's a neat. It's a neat microphone. I don't know which one it is. Uh and that's pretty much all I can say about it. But this is a beefy heavy boy.
SPEAKER_01Well, it is actually the neat King B because it's so big. Um, we were having audio trouble before the show started, and I thought I might have to switch mics. So I was debating between these two today, so I grabbed this one. But this one is so heavy. Um, but now it's just been over here, and I've just been feeling like even the shock mount is like heavy, heavy metal. Um the thing is like it's so big, but it is a really good, it's a good sounding mic. I'll I'll use this one next week.
SPEAKER_03Let's see. Uh, you are right. I have a contrast detection brain versus phase detection. I remember a live stream and he had a vast array of cameras.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's the norm. Usually at least three, if not four, going.
SPEAKER_03Uh, so do you have any other workflow tests? I just want to make sure, like, if you're here for the workflow, well, what's something that you've tried and it didn't work? That that's a question.
SPEAKER_01Notion. Uh, and not that that's specific, but I my brain doesn't work with Notion. Like, I appreciate it, and I know people love it. And like, if Marie happens to be in here, I'm sorry. Uh, it does not work for me. Like, my brain does not, and I know it doesn't make sense because it's like, why doesn't it work? It's just a screen with data on it.
SPEAKER_03Well, I've said this, everyone knows. I'm gonna say the roadcaster, I wouldn't even know what to do with the thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I mean, that's a really good example where it's like it's a centerpiece of what I do.
SPEAKER_03I feel bad. So here's another thing. Tom got me, uh you know, because he's very supportive of my content creating endeavors, got me a tool for my birthday one year, and I used it once and never used it again.
SPEAKER_01Which tool was that?
SPEAKER_03The Osmo Mobile.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that's right. The phone gimbal.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it just didn't.
SPEAKER_01But that was also before phones have insane built-in stabilizers now, or you don't need it.
SPEAKER_03I don't I when I was like vlogging back in March and I there was I was like, we were at the mall shopping for New York.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and you were using your phone.
SPEAKER_03I was using my phone and I couldn't believe when I edited it, I was like, this is more stable than the ZB one that's insane.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so why why put that in a gimbal?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um, but the the thing, the reason why I didn't work in my workflow is because there's it was so hard to like unlock my phone because I put the screen lock on it so I can go like this, then I have to attach it to the thing, then I gotta turn the thing on and like the shot's gone. Like I just Right, right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know, it has to be like, okay, if I like when we used it, I was on a boosted board and we knew, okay, here's the shot that we're gonna have, but I don't do that.
SPEAKER_01Like I'm very, you know, in the moment, and so like for me to I just um I uh I so if we're talking about tools and equipment that don't work, this is gonna be the most brand unfriendly thing. Okay.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't have whatever.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I have a few things. So I can talk about a pause and it's finished talking about something that did work because it's related to the outlining thing.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01So that same process for outlining, I have learned over the past year or so applies to editing the video. And I think we've talked about this before, but I really can't emphasize enough. Like, having spent so much time, even if I was only releasing a video a week, I would still like produce the video in a day, usually, like film and edit in a day, or film one day, edit the next day. And what I've been doing lately for now almost a year is like spending three days editing, maybe not because I have to, but just letting the same exact idea of like I will do the rough outline usually because I'm excited and I want to make sure everything worked and sounded good, and I feel better once I know the footage is here, it looks good, it sounds good, and now I'll chop it up. And then I usually get excited to do the rough cut to see, okay, I'm working with 32 minutes and I'd like to get it down to 20 minutes or something. And then going through and like now I'm editing it, switching shots around, adding in B-roll. And then once it feels like the video's done, finishing it the next day, like coming back, and because there's no fatigue, you get so excited when you're finishing when you're close to finishing a video, you just want it to be done, you're like, yeah, it's right there. That then you you kind of, I think there are things whether or not you realize it that you sort of you just sort of like cut out that don't need to be cut out. Not editing wise, but like polish-wise. Because I come back the next day, I'm like, you know, I could really fix this audio part here, you know. I could I can go out and film another shot really quick to overlay here. I could add in that graphic right here. I could show a screen record, like all these little things that I was too tired to do the day before. Now I don't have fatigue anymore. And I I've thought about how they can go, or you just notice, like, wait, this part at the end of the video makes a lot more sense at the beginning, actually. Like that kind of stuff. Um, it totally applies to the editing, totally makes the videos better. And if you have a workflow where you've been able to bank things and schedule them in advance, that pressure, because one of the things, like the video's done, I want to upload it right now and have people see it right now. Because you're working on a batch, not a batch, a banked workflow, right? It's where you know like this video is probably not gonna be out for two weeks. Yeah, it's like it doesn't really matter if I take an extra day to edit it because it's not this week's video anyway. Yeah. Um, and that has been like in terms of really helpful improving overall quality, massive.
SPEAKER_03What are you using? What mic are you recording on right now?
SPEAKER_01This is the Lewitt LCT 240. Um, it's actually really cool. It's a condenser mic, so it works with basically any interface as long as you have Phantom Power. I think it sounds really good. The mic itself is um, I don't have a review on it, so this is my review on it. The mic itself is relatively affordable, it's like $140-ish dollars. Um, but then I bought like the shock mount that came with it, or shock mount for it, so that was like another 40. And then it has this really cool thing. I apologize if you hear this, but the Hi Gif K. The pop filter that comes with it is metal. It's a metal mesh one, and magnetically it just goes around it and sits on the shock mount. Um, it comes with a regular windscreen, like a foam one, but I think the the white mic with like all metal, it's really cool looking. And I like the way, I really like the way the sounds. This was like your runner-up when we were doing mic tests, for which we're gonna.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, everyone was all about that one.
SPEAKER_01Heather's voice on this mic was like the runner-up.
SPEAKER_03Andrew says, I'm going to take that suggestion to heart, Tom. Trying to get everything edited in one sitting has made me hate editing. Breaking up over multiple sessions, I hope will help.
SPEAKER_01It's crazy the difference. You come back the next day and you're like, oh, I'm excited to do this now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, totally. Uh, Kathy, are smartphones best for workflow while traveling? Packing for a DC trip, wondering if I should bring cameras or just rely on iPhone iPhone 13 Pro?
SPEAKER_01For okay, what I would do, yeah. What would you do? If I were Kathy going on a trip, so I would take a camera just because you don't know. Like, if something amazing happened, you're like, I want the best quality, it's nice to have your actual camera. But more and more, even yesterday, I guess yesterday had a GoPro. We went to an air museum yesterday, and like I knew there were some clips I wanted to get for something, but I was like, I'll just use my phone, like it's fine. And I have an old phone, so like it's not even the best camera or anything. Um, and it would have been fine.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, if it were me, like I would do what I did for our New York trip was uh my Z V1 and that. So here's iPhone 13.
SPEAKER_01This was maybe four years ago. I was working on a project for for the school where I was working, and it was like a collaborative thing that was going to be shown in a theater, like premiered in a theater. And not that that was amazing eye quality or whatever, like the school district just booked a theater. Uh but point is projected on a big screen, and we were missing one thing. It was just an establishing shot of a building, and it was like the day before the thing needed to be done. And I had my iPhone 8 at the time, and I just happened to be at that building, and I was like, oh shoot. And I just stood there and like just filmed the building for 10 seconds and then threw that in as an establishing shot, and then it was projected on a big screen and looked amazing, and then cut to like uh like some I don't know, $5,000 4K documentary camera after that, and nobody noticed.
SPEAKER_03Uh Matt says I had 10 camera and 50 mics, but I retired. I now came out of retirement. I now uh use up to seven cameras but only 25 mics. Just got a matched pair of microcomputes.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you know what? Matt, if you could explain this, Jared was asking me yesterday exactly what matched pair means, and I think I gave him an answer. I I said that it's those two mics are specifically like tuned or designed to work together. Not just the model of mic, but like those two individual mics, like their frequency response, whatever their polar patterns, their phase, whatever is like designed to work together. Um I might have been wrong though. So if you could enlighten us, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_03Well, I feel like we learned a lot about workflows.
SPEAKER_01We did.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, I I actually just I feel like I have a potential topic.
SPEAKER_00What is it?
SPEAKER_03Personalities. Because we've been talking a lot about self-awareness and like how it's really important as a content creator. And I think what we were supposed to do one time was a lot of things. Oh, yeah, we're supposed to take the personality test.
SPEAKER_00So Kat like eight months ago. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Is that what they're called?
SPEAKER_00Something like that.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what they're called. Enneograms.
SPEAKER_00We can figure it out.
SPEAKER_03Cat Mobile Hill is like super interesting. I think she's like a like I I don't know, like a certified something or like has like studied it to be able to have to cat just up on it. Yeah. I don't but I think it'll be interesting. I don't know if we'll do that next week, but I'm just trying to think of other ideas. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Matt said my. I can add it to the notes. Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Tom and I have a shared couples table notes.
SPEAKER_01Kathy has Z V1, Z V E10, and a Ninja. 5050. I would take the Z V E 10. That with your phone, like that should cover everything. Because the Z V E10 will be the one that you can like if you want something to shine in a really special way, you could use that one. Otherwise, just stick with the phone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, there you go. Cool.
SPEAKER_01We're about to, is it time to clear the table?
SPEAKER_03I think it might be. That was fun.
SPEAKER_01That was fun.
SPEAKER_03That was a good episode.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, it was cool to hear other things that work for people too. It's nice to know that like we're not totally alone in everything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we're all, yeah, exactly. See? See?
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_01Alrighty. So uh thank you for joining us. Uh, we'll be back next Thursday, same bat time, same bat channel. And I hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun, rest of your week, and we will see you next time.
SPEAKER_03Bye, everybody. See ya.