The Couple's Table

Creator Chat

March 08, 2024 Heather & Tom Season 1 Episode 128
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Let's chat about some tools and tricks of the creator trade along with an unexpected turn into the world of retro gaming!

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome. My name is Tom and. I'm Heather and you're sitting at the Couples Table.

Speaker 2:

The Couples Table is a live stream podcast here On this channel. Join us for better or worse. For richer or poorer and in sickness and in health.

Speaker 1:

Every Friday, 1 pm, pacific Standard Time.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 1:

What's up? What's up.

Speaker 2:

See, I need to tilt it like this, right? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

How's the audio? Everybody, happy Friday. It is February 9th, let's go. Parker Jennings in the house. Mr Cameron junkie, hello. Hello, the real pal room. Hi audio hotline. Hey there, smirrel Lab, hi, kane Trouble is also here. What's up? What's up? It's good to see everyone. Happy Friday.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

There you go. How was that? Oh wait, I didn't see this. Hi, everyone Just coming from watching Tom's follow-up video on the prompter Great job. That seemed like it was a good video.

Speaker 1:

The timing of that was so weird because normally so. My most recent video on my channel came out yesterday and it's a 100-day follow-up on the Elgato prompter, which is something we're using right here. And it's funny because I normally schedule my videos in advance and this week was just sort of weird, so I almost wasn't able to film a video before Thursday, but for some reason on Wednesday I was like I really want to push through and make a video and I want to make that video. So I made it on Wednesday, published it on Thursday, so it's a very quick turnaround for me.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that was a 24-hour turnaround, I know people do that all the time but I don't. So that was a very quick turnaround for me and it just so happened, because it was originally going to be 90 days with the prompter but it just by coincidence yesterday was my 100th day of using it and I was like, oh, that's perfect, because the day I published the 100-day follow-up is day 100. And for some reason also total coincidence a ton of people's prompters got delivered yesterday. There was a whole shipping wave of people that suddenly out for delivery. So it was like this video came out. All these people are like oh my gosh, I just got the notification that it's out for delivery, or I just un-popped.

Speaker 2:

The stars totally aligning yeah it's all coincidence.

Speaker 1:

It seems like beautiful corporate marketing synergy. And it is absolutely not, but that was really cool. And then the funnier part too was oh here's this. After literally I was done filming that video, I had shut down my studio, I was importing the footage to edit it on Wednesday, and then this got delivered.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you guys know about the tea with this thing.

Speaker 1:

The Padcast is the Parrot Pro. This was a Kickstarter item that I backed back in I don't know April or May Last spring. It was supposed to be delivered in July. You might notice that it's February right now. It is a Kickstarter, you're not buying it from a store, so there were a lot of Kickstarter issues with that. But that showed up and I backed that when I was thinking about I kind of want to teleprompter.

Speaker 2:

Did you backed that thing?

Speaker 1:

up. I backed that thing up back when I was thinking about whether to teleprompter or not.

Speaker 2:

Not knowing, my brain is turning into yours now, sorry.

Speaker 1:

We've been living together a long, long time. I didn't know at the time that the Elgato Promptor was going to be a thing, and then that came out in September. Still hadn't gotten this one, immediately ordered that one Because you can't cancel your Kickstarter, which I totally would.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that's there. And it's funny because I was like, oh man, I feel so bad for this product, but it seems nice enough, so I'm going to try to Right. But now that there's a comparison product, it's like I'm not using it in my studio for sure Mobile, but if there's ever a need for mobile scripting, yeah, we're not bringing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because it couldn't be really used. I wouldn't want to rig it up as a reference monitor or something or use it for a Zoom video call, but using it for mobile scripting. If there's ever a need where one of us has to walk down a street and read a script, there you go.

Speaker 2:

I mean mobile, yeah. Yeah, but it's not a thing that we have really ever had a need for hey, you know who knows.

Speaker 1:

But now that it's an option. You never know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, All right, call me Cubby in the house. Patricia is here. Hello, hello, Sammy Superstar, what's up? Nick is really considering that teleprompter.

Speaker 1:

I feel like it would really help your recording sessions, Nick, but I also feel so I can also imagine you getting frustrated as you're setting it up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you also need to have it has to be connected to a computer.

Speaker 1:

And there's an adjustment period and it's a little, it's not finicky, it's just like you have to install the app and do some permissions and things in your computer that are like a little unusual.

Speaker 2:

If it hasn't been a pain point for you, then I don't think that you need it.

Speaker 1:

The thing is though I never thought I would have a teleprompter as a permanent part of my setup, and I love it so much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, there you go, everybody that's. I mean, I love my, I never take it off, it's just always on there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's no need to remove it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is just confused. So where do you look? I know I talk about this every stream. Where do you look?

Speaker 1:

So when we're using it like this as a reference monitor, I kind of don't think about it, because it's far enough away where, unless you know, someone's looking at a prompter. Like if I look at anything on the screen it looks like I'm like at the camera, but I do see the lenses shightiness in the middle, so I kind of look at that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like right here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's what I look at.

Speaker 1:

But a really cool thing about the video I made yesterday, the product designer from Elgato commented on it, along with like one of their software developers. So not just like the Elgato brand account, but like the people who work on the products, which is really, really cool. And the software. One of the developers said that, like in an upcoming version of the software, they're working on a feature that they hope will be included that allows you to place like a transparent red dot on the screen somewhere that you can focus on.

Speaker 2:

No one else would see it, but it's just something for you to look at, which is a great idea. Remember, hit that like button. Yeah, home sick. Max says, to be fair to the couple, heather could run any TV show. I know, there you go. Pete says I got the padcaster to before the Elgato was available. You might say I have some regrets.

Speaker 1:

I mean, what's the price comparison? Well see, I don't even remember, because the Kickstarter one, I think it was like 130. But then shipping ended up being like another $30, which was like, no, it's the good deals.

Speaker 2:

So okay. So Nick says I only script short form and ads, If you are, if you are someone who reads from a script like it is life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because then how else are you doing it? You know, like how do you read from a script without a teleprompter? Unless you did what I did, which is you look at you know, you look at your outline, you kind of memorize what you're about to say and then you go back to the camera.

Speaker 1:

That's what I did for you. Yeah, but I would always.

Speaker 2:

I'll let me tell you it. Cut the because I use it for client videos word for word. Read the script and the raw footage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, less than half of what it used to be. For me it's insane. It's a huge difference. Yeah, the padcaster it comes in this little. You know they did a nice job on it, so it's like I don't even know if I'm going to make a video about it, because I think so many people have such a bad taste from the Kickstarter. There are a bunch of issues with the Kickstarter. The product itself seems fine for one of the one of these kinds of prompters, but like, yeah, in a studio situation I just why would I use anything else, you know? But basically what this one is is it's. It's significantly smaller. It has, like these little GoPro screws here and then it opens up to your 45 degrees.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so we're going to do Spar lab's asking for the second camera to show what we're looking at.

Speaker 1:

Sure.

Speaker 2:

But I think we should show this too Sure, so I hope audio does not cut out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'll, I'll. I can try to adjust the scene if it does.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So here's it says are we audio? Scarlett two I two audio yeah. Okay, let me show the prompter first.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy, that's the microphone.

Speaker 1:

Here we are so here.

Speaker 2:

let me step back. I mean that prop your prompter, so you can see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we're hi.

Speaker 2:

Tom, hello, so, yeah, yeah. So when it's this reference thing here like what do we look at?

Speaker 1:

you know, that's the. That's the tricky thing. When it's a script or a video call, it's very obvious what to look at. But when it's not that, then it's less obvious. Yeah, and then that's. And then there's this little one here. It does have a tripod mount on the bottom, so you might want to tripod and basically you can see what you're looking at. You want to tripod and basically the way this works is has a little cover and then it has the same rings it's the exact same rings as the Elgato prompter that go on your camera lens, like they have the same font on them and everything and then this slides elegantly right there. So it goes on the front of your camera like this, and you know it's super lightweight. And then you, you use your, your phone, you pop this little guy up here and then it's.

Speaker 2:

You know the more traditional one where you put your phone in the back, so it reflects your phone onto the thing and as you put your script onto the phone, they do have.

Speaker 1:

They do have an app they do have, which I haven't used yet, and it does come with a little kind of a chintzy. Well, actually, I have it right here it's. It comes with a little Bluetooth remote that you can, you know, like, stop and advance the script with, and stuff, so you know if you're doing something portable. The weird thing here, though, there's no guards on the side, so I feel like whoop phone could just easily fall out, but for this kind of thing I don't know if Doc's here, I know he had the original one in his studio forever before getting the Elgato. I don't know if Doc has the Elgato one, but anyway, yeah, I mean, it's a cool little like I.

Speaker 1:

I was always worried about this, the prompter that hangs off a camera lens, and it turns out that it's just not an issue. Yeah, sorry about the mic, but yeah. So anyway, I don't know how to do it this now, yeah, and so it's almost like I do. If I made a video on it, I would need to make two videos one that's just like explaining the experience of being a Kickstarter person, and the other as an actual, like product review.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so okay, if you didn't here's, here's what the prompter. Where did you go? Ndi, okay, oh, there, okay. So let me switch back really quick. So this monitor is part of the Elgato prompter, right Like this whole thing right here.

Speaker 1:

That's the key to me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you don't have to use a phone, an iPad or whatever. It comes with a monitor and then you can change what you see on the screen to be whatever you want. We're using it as a, as a, a third monitor right now. So, you see, I could just drag whatever. You could put comments there like this, but I think it's weird to look at something that isn't moving, you know so. So, yeah, that's why we are looking at ourselves once we change this. But yeah, okay, I hope that makes sense. That does. Okay, let's see. Intervite temperature is here. Made it Just hit upload on my latest video.

Speaker 2:

Now I can sit back and relax with you guys, while wife and both children are sleeping.

Speaker 1:

Well, congrats, yay, on all of those things I know.

Speaker 2:

I currently use duet and it has a logo which tells me where to look. Oh yeah, that's smart. Hey, kev, what's up? Jfk in the house, what's up? Uh, mr Cameron. He says I use them to place the zoom calls into my teleprompter area so that creates a face to face environment. That's where it's like perfect. So if you're doing FaceTime zoom, anything where you're using like a webcam type of situation, I think like that, this is what we've wanted.

Speaker 1:

Remote live casting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know where you're actually. It looks like you're talking to somebody.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Because it's just you just look at them and talk and it's great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, let's see. I don't script live streams, but often present from slides, so having the feed on the screen is great for being able to refer to the slides while keeping camera in contact.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Is YouTube just one giant advertising billboard?

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, that's a big question, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, it's not as much of a giant advertising billboard as, like Instagram.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Uh, but I guess it depends on the channel.

Speaker 1:

I mean YouTube make YouTube as a platform makes money from advertising? Yeah, If they make money at all YouTube channels that advertise things. There's such variety, you know, like some yes, some no, and I would say some niches are more prone to it than others.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and I think that there are people whose channels don't make advertising money at all or they don't make money from advertising at all you know, cause they sell like courses or whatever. So I guess technically they're advertising their course. But yeah, all right. Uh, rainy Cajun is here. Pro tip, I took a small piece of Gap tape and put it in the center of my monitor to create a viewpoint. Oh see, of course you've got all the tips. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

That's a good one. I'm excited. I'm excited to see where they take their software, because it seems like they're going to add in some pretty nifty features.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Uh, homesick. I reason for getting the prompt is to avoid moving away from the subject. I kind of distract myself and talk way more than I should. So the script right in front of me should help.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Even bullet points, like if it's not a full on script, but you just do the bullet points at least you know, like oh my God what happened Sorry. What order to talk in, what order to to to cover things in. And then for me, sometimes I forget or I go on a tangent and I just know if I get to the end of my bullet point list that I've covered every point I needed to cover, Because sometimes I can't do that.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I finish a video and I'm like wait was there something really important that I was supposed to. I wish I could do that.

Speaker 1:

It depends on the subject, but for my regular videos I usually don't like. You know, I don't like reading a script for the most part.

Speaker 2:

Uh, audio hotline says I have the Padcaster V2. I hated it and never used it. Now I love. I have the Elgato and I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, corey is sparkly Mike.

Speaker 2:

Like in the sparkly Mike.

Speaker 1:

Reporter storecom. There's our advertising billboard.

Speaker 2:

World. According to Briggs, I have probably owned four different prompters. Elgato is my fave. I did a voiceover job a month ago and they had some crazy 4k prompter $4,000 prompter. Yeah, yeah, um, I don't I tennis like you've no idea.

Speaker 1:

How much has?

Speaker 2:

Elgato won 280. So what's the $4,000 difference?

Speaker 1:

This is. You remember, the ones that were in like the broadcast studio at my old school stuff.

Speaker 2:

Oh, like though, like the super heavy rolls on the ground.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, just the. They're just the prompt. They're basically just this. It's a bigger version of this.

Speaker 2:

So why is it? What part is costing $4,000?

Speaker 1:

It's a great question. I think historically it's been because where else are you gonna go Wow, it's like diamonds.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and historically also.

Speaker 1:

It's those came out when, like small flat panel things were less common, so you'd have a bigger. They have a bigger screen, maybe a 15 or a 20 inch screen, and then the mirror, like a high quality mirror, and the shroud and everything, but you still have to put them on. You know, a tripod or a pedestal or a dolly or something like it doesn't include that at all.

Speaker 2:

It's just the same thing. It's just the compter part.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let's see, so it has a much sturdier area to mount the camera onto, because it doesn't weigh too heavy to hang off a camera's lens.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And the monitors usually have more built-in stuff, more in outports, more menu controls and things, but they are, that's just they're. I think for a long time it was. There's no other option. And if your main target is like production studios and things, you know it's almost like medical stuff, like the insurance will just, they'll just pay whatever you say, you know like. When it comes down to individual consumers, I think people are more like wait, why am I paying this much?

Speaker 2:

Real about room. It will make the detour. Also. Everyone feel free to make the detour, Like that's what it's for.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Did the huddle up get postponed? Yes, because I woke up with a sore throat and it didn't get worse.

Speaker 1:

It didn't but a couple of weeks ago I woke up with a sore throat and then it turned into COVID.

Speaker 2:

It has not gotten worse and tests are negative, but I was like you know what I'm just gonna not, so plan is next week. Stay tuned. Yes, yeah, also, tom and I fixed Just Create More, so I will definitely post it in there. If you want to check out Just Create More, it's at JustCreateMorecom. This is our community for other content creators. It's free to join and you just have to fill out an application that basically explains why you want to join.

Speaker 1:

If you've already been in it, you don't have to do anything. It just might look a little different. We tried, to like, simplify it.

Speaker 2:

So when you sign, in and there's a place.

Speaker 1:

It's all just kind of like everything just right here.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to go to like different areas for things. Yeah, maybe next couple of days we can do a little tour. Sure, yeah. And then I'm hey, all man, I wish I had the bullet point talent. I'm scripty, scripty, word for word or doesn't, doesn't work. That's how. Because it's like am I reading or am I not reading? How do you have these?

Speaker 1:

I think it's teaching, it's the lesson. When I used to do lesson plans I always had like originally it was this very nice like printed paper, and then eventually turned it into an index card with some bullet points on it and it was just kind of on my desk and I would just know like look at the next thing, and then you just go the next thing.

Speaker 2:

And then, historically, I am a. I think part of one of the things that I really like about my videos and one of the things that I feel like people gravitate towards is like seeing my thought form in real time and so having just the bullet point, I see it and then I kind of like explore it is going to be better than whatever I could script, because then it's like I don't like my emotion doesn't match, it's all weird, right, but if it's like a tutorial where I'm explaining something, then yeah, word for word is the way to go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Cause you can't. You know, you can't transpose like a menu thing or a setting or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, like those, like if I were doing an e-cam tutorial, well, I don't know, it's hard because I would just describe it, but If you're doing like a technical review and you need to have like I don't know how Tom does it. It's quite the talent, it's very.

Speaker 1:

Honestly it was. It was teaching. It was not a thing I could do before, but years of teaching helped build up the skill, which is cool.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to do that while you're teaching, though.

Speaker 1:

What bullet points.

Speaker 2:

No like.

Speaker 1:

Not be word for word, but you have to hit certain points and Cause I Hots will be aware of your audience and he's on the couch with a laptop, typing it like sentences with periods, not, you know. Bullet point to me is like oh, my teaching bullet points were yeah, my bullet points teaching would literally be like FCP export.

Speaker 2:

And then I know I need to spend 15 minutes talking about how to export from Final Cut Pro. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, bullet point. That's how I did it, but your, your outline is like it's like scroll through the notes that many times.

Speaker 1:

Well, sometimes I do scripty things, but my bullet points are more complete sentences because I try to get the thought out there, but it doesn't mean I'm going to say or include all of that.

Speaker 2:

It's like See, that's so hard. I have the idea.

Speaker 1:

I wrote it out. So there's my thought. The thought is there, but as I go through it as a bullet point, sometimes I combine them, merge them, go on a tangent or whatever. I don't know my brain's weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you guys didn't miss the huddle up next Wednesday.

Speaker 1:

That's Valentine's Day. Well, we're kicking it off on the day I was feeling guilty though, because I was going to be here in the middle and now I don't feel guilty?

Speaker 2:

We don't. It's just a fact.

Speaker 1:

We should do something for Valentine's Day, but at you know, between 12 and 3 pm we won't be doing this on Valentine's Day. Tom's going to play hockey.

Speaker 2:

Nick says I find bullet points of my main topics on my phone that I refer to, and then I just make it up as I go on Too Lazy Descript.

Speaker 1:

Honestly though, I feel like yeah, there's nothing wrong with that you have it down?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like it's not. That's why, if it isn't a pain point, right Like I have talked to many people who have YouTube channels and it's this like a lot of them wish they had us a place where they can read the script in front of them. If that is, you definitely get. This is the best prompter like on the market. I don't think there's even a comparison.

Speaker 1:

No, I've used many, there's not.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but if you're not, you know, if you're fine, you don't need it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the ability to summarize information, deliver it in an entertaining way, is the ultimate skill.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when I think of Nick too, like so much of the channel is the personality.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, Because it's not anybody could do. I don't know interior design, but it's the way that you talk about it.

Speaker 1:

And so I don't know if a script would take away from, like, the personality that pops out, kind of like we were saying, as you're going through the thought, that's when we get to see the uniqueness?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because then you're-.

Speaker 1:

Uniqueness. Hi cat, Yay, we're happy you're here too.

Speaker 2:

Michael, I have to do word for word or else I tend to stumble, but I do it by concept to allow for editing. Oh, that makes that's a good idea. What does that mean?

Speaker 1:

So like everything related to this top, like so when you're editing it's like okay, everything over here.

Speaker 2:

In this chunk. In this chunk, okay, got it.

Speaker 1:

Even if it maybe, I'm guessing, is not in order of how the video's going to go.

Speaker 2:

At some point I'm going to get that proper. It's been three years and I still can't veer off a script. Wow, I thought you just talked out your videos.

Speaker 1:

Well, you're doing great there. Yeah, that's crazy, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

A blender to what, yeah, you're just going to wing a blender tutorial no.

Speaker 2:

I know the one that we just watched and where he was taking care of all his plans. Oh, I mean-, yeah, I thought that was for sure Just like well, you know, I have goals and stuff. I was like, wow, the script did. Maybe in the script it says pause here for genuine moment or something.

Speaker 1:

Stupid.

Speaker 2:

Pause here for dramatic effect.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is something I noticed, though, when I do read script for script on a prompter is I don't let things breathe enough, because it's just-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just read.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like speed reading, blah, blah blah, and so it's like learning to take breaks and whatever is. Yeah, it almost like speeds things up too much and I had to learn to slow it down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so anyway, what else is up? This is the creator chat episode. Oh see, he said it was scripted, wow.

Speaker 1:

So what are you? Days away from 100K at this point.

Speaker 2:

Yes, this is my brother in genuine queue. Yeah, so Kevin is almost at 100K. Like I don't even know where you're at. You're very-. Oh, you're not going to see it because it's-.

Speaker 1:

I mean right now, this is 99.7. Okay, yeah, so within 300- 300 subscribers of 100,000. That's this month for sure, right.

Speaker 2:

I mean it has to be yeah. So congrats early. Congrats Panamonium Big Band. When I script out my videos too precisely, I sound robotic and it detracts from the overall vibe and my personality gets lost. Same, that's why I wouldn't use word for word for my videos. I don't think. But for client videos it actually works because it's like explaining the product. So I don't there doesn't have to be it's actually better that there is no personality because, it's just someone needs to explain the info on camera.

Speaker 2:

Kat says I love the Prompter, Frye Contact and using it as a confidence monitor. Are your views down over the last two months?

Speaker 1:

I'm just all over the place. All the time there's like no trends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I haven't I don't have like enough to go off of.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Corey has a question, Sorry.

Speaker 1:

I Thoughts on.

Speaker 2:

YouTube trending for longer form content. What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

Like, is YouTube encouraging longer form.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, I thought you meant-.

Speaker 1:

It's almost like the pendulum is swinging. You know, like the reaction from short form now-.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so it's not like we're trying to make a long form video. Get on YouTube trending right.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I'm maybe I misunderstood it, but that's what I-.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, trapst脷bcom just got my El Gato Prompter, my only want. I wish I could just I could adjust where the monitor sits to get the best reflection. Fill the screen reflection.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, cause it's not it's like you saw me open the other one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the angle is-.

Speaker 1:

This one is that the angle. But again, I get that, but I also think of like, when it's designed for so many people who've never used a Prompter before it is just yeah, you need it. As dumb as I can, it's kind of like the general optimal angle and it's just right there, like they try to make it as idiot proof as possible, right? Which is what it's for. It's a very consumer level thing.

Speaker 2:

OK, let's get back to this. Is it trending for longer form content?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, but I feel like I've heard that conversation and I would definitely not mind it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, here we go. Like eight minute videos were the goal we're the goal. And now I've seen 25 minute deep explainer videos doing much better.

Speaker 1:

I've definitely seen. I've seen more long videos, like more videos of a greater length lately, but I thought I was just sort of getting into different channels where things are like 40 minutes or an hour or something. I don't know if that's a thing where people are switching. I do remember the days when people would like we got to make it 10 minutes and one second to get ad revenue, and then that was cut down to eight minutes. So then people went to eight minutes.

Speaker 2:

Oh see, that's why it was eight minute videos, Because that was the shortest maximum amount for midroll ads.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which is why, like I don't, I haven't seen this as much with the eight minute thing, which is maybe a good sign. I remember, when it was the 10 minute thing, you'd see so many videos that were 10 minutes and one second and you knew it was just padded out like that makes me feel weird yeah because it's like, yeah, I don't remember, sometimes I would accidentally have videos, I don't know why that makes me feel weird, Like do you know why does that? Why does?

Speaker 2:

that bother me Well, because it because it's why are you making this video?

Speaker 1:

You're not making this video because you want to make the video. You're making a video to kind of like. You know it could be 10 minutes and 30 seconds, it could be nine minutes and 50 seconds, but you made it. You made it just over the limit here, I know, but it's whenever I had videos that were close to that, I would always cut them down to 9 58, just specifically. See that's the.

Speaker 2:

It's hard because I don't know. You know I don't hate on it because no, do you. You.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, let's see.

Speaker 2:

Cat tipped her prompter forward. It's not parallel to the floor. Actually, I think it's my tip because mine's on a tripod where each leg is adjustable. Oh, I was going to say how would you? I mean I don't know how you would do that without changing the camera angle. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 2:

Let's see. Mark, would you recommend Elgato or Glide Gear 750 for interactive video conferencing?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to. I had the Glide Gear 100. I'm going to look up the 750. I'm going to say Elgato, but let me check the Glide Gear.

Speaker 2:

Cat says my take Video should be as long as needed and no longer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I would definitely. Oh wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, oh no, no, because the 750, does it have.

Speaker 2:

Does it come? Oh, it doesn't come with the white stuff, right, the silver stuff? Yeah, I know it. No, get the Elgato.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because this is like a tablet-based thing, unless you want a bigger surface and you want to use a tablet. But some people and I've learned this in the comments in my videos some people love using tablets and phones on their prompters and that's what they prefer. I hate it and I just will not use the prompter.

Speaker 2:

Wait. So what? Oh wait, wait, wait. We have to make the distinction, because some people don't record to their computer, most people don't, If you're-.

Speaker 1:

I don't.

Speaker 2:

No, but like, if you don't need to plug into the computer, then you would use that because you would just record to your memory card and use your phone.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't record to my computer, I record to my memory card, but I use the prompter, which has to be connected to a computer but it's in a studio slash office environment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like if you don't have a computer-.

Speaker 1:

The Elgato prompter has to be connected to a computer, so if you're not in that situation that is a huge thing, yeah. Then it would be very frustrating to use.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because if you're using a tablet because you don't have a computer, I mean what are you editing on?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't know they have Final Cut Pro on iPads now. Yeah yeah. So that's kind of the big thing there, I guess If you don't mind connecting it to a computer, the Elgato prompter is such a better experience. If you don't want to have to connect it to a computer, then the other one, the Glygear, is the way to go.

Speaker 2:

Ian Pindle hello from Oxford. Hey, okay, it's been a while, but lovely to see you guys. Hello, okay, I feel like we didn't finish this one though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the longer video thing.

Speaker 2:

The long video thing.

Speaker 1:

I mean, let me go through my subscription fee.

Speaker 2:

Okay, corey it seems like, from your perspective, videos are getting longer. I don't know if videos are getting longer for me. I don't think I would say that.

Speaker 1:

I mean just the ones you're making. No well, both the ones you're saying I'm just going through my subscription fee to have a 22-minute video.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a great idea. Let me do that.

Speaker 1:

An 8-minute video, a 12-minute video, I'm not counting podcasts and things. Six, 13, an hour 15.

Speaker 2:

45.

Speaker 1:

12, 3, 13, 26, 52, 16.

Speaker 2:

I have a lot of live streams which are obviously going to be long.

Speaker 1:

It seems like a lot between 10 and 20 for me, but let me tell you, if there's a channel I really love and they put out a long video, it's a treat.

Speaker 2:

It's the best. Yeah, you get excited.

Speaker 1:

I love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I think from my opinion. I think it's about type of content. So if you're doing tutorials and your thing is getting started with how to use the prompter and it's a 27-minute video, maybe that's not a getting started video.

Speaker 1:

I was trying to learn how to beat a boss in Mother 3. Last night In a video game. Yeah, talk about that later. But trying to learn how to beat a boss in a video game, I had to look up a video and literate the definitive guide, 27 minutes.

Speaker 2:

I was like dude, this battle is not like Right, but I feel like there's a way to. I don't know. I feel like there's a way that it could be the style of your channel that I don't know. Maybe you're putting some together, you show the whole thing and you don't do any cuts.

Speaker 1:

I think Kat said it. There it is. Kat said video should be as long as needed and no longer. That's the perfect way to look at it.

Speaker 2:

I remember telling my students that all the time that makes it seem like it needs to be short.

Speaker 1:

If it needs to be 45 minutes, it needs to be 45 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see what you're saying. For tutorials, that makes sense to me. But for, like, do I really have to record me coming into my office? It doesn't need to be there, but it's cool.

Speaker 1:

I think we're looking at the word need differently, because I would say it does need to be there because otherwise it's not your video Like, otherwise it's not setting the tone and the style and the thing for your video.

Speaker 2:

You tell him, tell me, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That's my made a point button. Is that the top?

Speaker 2:

No one can hear that.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing happening. I'm just pointing out that I made a point.

Speaker 2:

He just looked like this. Oh my goodness. Okay, Corey says my take is YouTube is being consumed more on TVs. That's the push for longer content.

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I have heard this many times. Okay, not many.

Speaker 1:

I've heard that a lot lately though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like it's come up in the past, this year, because? So what's your response to that?

Speaker 1:

That is different, that is interesting, because it's.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's look up our TV consumption.

Speaker 1:

TV consumption. How do we look that up?

Speaker 2:

Can you see by device?

Speaker 1:

Oh, for our channels. Yeah, I didn't know what we were talking about.

Speaker 2:

Audience.

Speaker 1:

The same at what we watch on TV.

Speaker 2:

No, sorry, that's how I said it.

Speaker 1:

I know that was in the recap recently. Mine was 11% or something.

Speaker 2:

It was not actually a lot for me, but then what's the increase though Like? Is that normal for your channel?

Speaker 1:

Oh see, I don't know, I don't know how to find it also.

Speaker 2:

I actually don't know how to find it either. I don't know if it's on the phone.

Speaker 1:

There's my weekly recap again.

Speaker 2:

Is it in the weekly recap?

Speaker 1:

Mine was last week. It was one of the questions that was like how many people, what percentage of your audience, watch on the TV?

Speaker 2:

I made 14 bucks on my tutorial channel last week. Oh, last week. That's actually pretty good right. There you go. I think YouTube TV as a whole is increasing, but I think per channel it really depends, because I'm not going to watch tutorials on a TV, but abroad, in Japan, we mostly watch on TV. Now I think.

Speaker 1:

True, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I don't know, it depends.

Speaker 1:

Very true.

Speaker 2:

Let's see. Pete says that's correct on the TV portion. Latest from YouTube is TV viewership for videos is up to 10% Up a ton versus the past few years.

Speaker 1:

That is very interesting.

Speaker 2:

I mean, especially if you think, like you have, like I don't know if Mr Beast is still as big as he was, because I haven't heard about him in a while but if you have someone like him who's creating shows that basically match shows that you see on Hulu and Netflix, I can see how that kind of YouTube would be seen on TV.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's almost like better that way, great, I'd say. 30 to 45 minute videos are reasonable for me, though it depends on the content, the quality of the production and whether I'm super invested in the topic or not. Right, yeah, because like I have videos where I just sit, like I don't have a video, I talk about ADHD for 40 freaking minutes, no overlays, it's just me talking, and well, people watch it all the way to the end.

Speaker 1:

So it's like I mean, you are captivating.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think it just depends, and it's like I don't know. It's kind of like weird to say whether that video is short or long.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's hard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it depends on so many things. I was thinking of using a 15 inch monitor and decimated to use decimeter. Oh, to flip the video to get a bigger image. Just not sure the extra screen size is worth the cost effort.

Speaker 1:

Like everything, it depends. The tricky thing with teleprompters is the bigger screen. So much depends on the distance you are from it, but also the screen size. A bigger screen seems awesome because there's more there, but then there is more for you to like literally look at yourself reading even on the Elgato prompter, which is pretty small, nine inch screen you still need both those margins you still need to make the margin of the script shorter, so that way it's more over the camera's lens.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because otherwise it looks like this.

Speaker 1:

Like well, it also depends if this is closer to you, you're going to notice eyes moving, and it's further away, you can have wider margins and you wouldn't notice it. So so much depends on the specific setup.

Speaker 2:

Actually you try it. Let me see what Look from like edge to edge, as if we were reading yeah, you could totally tell me.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I'm looking from like edge to edge.

Speaker 2:

It's like so obvious you're reading.

Speaker 1:

Normally okay. Where I'm seeing our microphones in the frame is normally where my script is. If I look between our microphones. You can still see, but I'm not doing it that fast I'm here.

Speaker 2:

How about I put?

Speaker 1:

this okay.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you can read this comment, right here Okay we're any Cajun oh.

Speaker 1:

We're my comment box. We'll be able to pop it up on screen there or my comments there.

Speaker 2:

It is there, it is Okay ready the rainy Cajun, there we go there, it is Okay love long form videos for bedtime.

Speaker 1:

I save them up during the day and see how many I can view before falling asleep with my phone on or under me. Fun fact, air pod batteries can last all night. Oh, wow, my air pods have not been charging lately. It's really frustrating. Even today I took out lunch.

Speaker 2:

I was like oh, zero percent, that's a problem.

Speaker 1:

It is a problem.

Speaker 2:

Could you tell that Tom was reading?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

That was on the prompter. Okay, we got a week re kit. What's wrong?

Speaker 1:

I was like you're looking at all these different things.

Speaker 2:

Okay, rim jam. I put out a 20 minute video recently thinking it'd be way too long, and one of the comments was thanks for getting to the point and not blurring the vid with BS. Yeah, that's funny. It's so hard to predict there's.

Speaker 1:

I put out a video Last week, my video about the wireless mics. I felt was as short as I can make it while addressing all the issues. I want to touch on with that and of course, like fun to people are like yeah, it was relatively short video and people are like the video should have been one minute long, like a lot. I don't know what you're talking about. Like why do you even want to watch a video? Then, like Like you're just arguing.

Speaker 2:

I love your imitation of what you think they sound like.

Speaker 1:

Obviously so it sounds to me.

Speaker 2:

Ian says I prefer to watch YouTube on the TV, though tonight it's in my office, I watch a lot of YouTube on TV. Interesting. I think I'm still a phone I I've had.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we do still have Boston and Maine live on TV Every day.

Speaker 2:

I know I bet if you looked at my, I don't know if they don't have stats as a viewer, but anyway, michael, I will see. Watch what I subscribe to on YouTube on my TV through. Roku Mark says would it be better to do a larger number of short, focused videos or longer videos easier to find specific interest, versus Building viewer relationships?

Speaker 1:

This is a this is a hard question. That is a YouTube huddle up question right here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it's like I think you should do. What I would do is that I think it should be both, because I feel like the longer videos build the viewer relationships, while the the short focused videos are the discovery videos, because their topic focused versus person focused a lot of it does depend on the topics, like you know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I'm. The thing about my head was like a final cut pro tutorial, because I've kind of talked about it earlier. But if I did a video, I could do like my entire final cut pro workflow and it's a 50 minute video, start to finish or something. But I could also do like okay, here's how to import, organize footage and final cut, that's a video. Here's how to export. That's a video.

Speaker 2:

Here's how to do transition, whatever that's a you know so it.

Speaker 1:

And even though those could all be one video, it would be frustrating for someone who just wants to learn to export to have to sift through a 50 minute video to find their answer.

Speaker 2:

So it it definitely does depend on the topic, like if you go to my tutorial channel and you see the way that people find that channel, it's a lot of YouTube search and everything that is like the things that are searched are very specific problems like how do I find my subscriber count, my like live subscriber count, or how do I record my you know camera and screen at the same time, like that's one specific problem. That's a person who doesn't care who's talking about it, they're looking for the answer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's why I think the longer form it's like you, you've already subscribed to the channel. You might have come in through one of those videos and then now you're like interested in the person, but I don't know. That's what I think, michael. I then have to open my computer to get the link in the circuit part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the like, the interactivity, or you know, commenting or whatever people I know who watch mostly video essays.

Speaker 2:

Watch them on a large screen TV, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love a good video essay.

Speaker 2:

I guess it depends on generation behavior. Someone said I think it was CEO of YouTube mentioned his children watch shorts on TV. Oh, that's all, no. I personally would never do that. Oh my gosh, I feel like I would get so motion sickness.

Speaker 1:

Fush constant.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, yeah, no. Kevin says have you tried that Nvidia AI eye contact? I have not.

Speaker 1:

But the next comment, cuz I was like what is that? And then Kevin said I accidentally had it on for a meeting and even when I was looking down my eyes were creepily staring at the camera. I hated it. So it must be like no matter where you look, it makes it look like you're looking. Oh, oh, that's just. Oh, man, I Would not, I can tell it's just not into it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I would have no purpose for that. That that's. I feel like you work from home and you have to like get in a meeting or whatever right.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's funny if you watch when Elgato released their prompter not to talk about it too long, but they did a whole video like how to use the prompter and one of them was like are you stuck in a meeting? That should have been an email, like put your favorite sports game. And then it was like just don't cheer too loud, because the guy was in like a meeting and he was like yeah, all right. And they were like wait what?

Speaker 2:

I guess that would only charges one side of my AirPods.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

What is happening with the air pod church, see that's what happens cuz you just did that video about the batteries that can't be replaced. Not a fan of the AI eye contact. If I see a top of video under 10 minutes. I think Tom had a busy week.

Speaker 1:

I. They are just as long as they need to be, but sometimes they're Shorter. It feels weird when I do a sub 10 minute one, but the thing of my brain that pops up is this will be easy to caption Because a 30 minute video with specific problem with specific product names and things.

Speaker 2:

Can? I'll tell you what Tom's biggest complaint is right now in his workflow is the captions.

Speaker 1:

It's gotten better, though Descripted something like two, three months ago, where it that was the biggest.

Speaker 2:

Like I do catch, oh hey, captions you know how many times about comments anymore. You don't complain about some you would you never really complain about thumbnails Editing? Obviously never, never heard a single complaint.

Speaker 1:

Captions. Yeah, you know, many times I had to replace rotor pro instead of roadcaster pro. What the hell is a rotor?

Speaker 2:

Which is crazy. It's not even like the video is done.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why it's frustrating, because everything's done. I got to go through and like, do, like upgrading a ninth grade of essay here, but the script got a lot better where now it can do product names. Even the Elgato prompter it knows when, most of the time knows when to capitalize the word prompter and when not to.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's if I say why do you have to be that exact dude? It's I mean.

Speaker 1:

I like to be that exact. But even stuff like pod mic, you know there's a bunch of ways this. Is it two words? Is it one word? It knows now. Capital P, capital M.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so here's the thing. Are you Currently watching this stream on TV?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think I'm gonna be able to comment, yeah, like it's cuz I'm looking like that hole where.

Speaker 2:

What device are you using to watch this?

Speaker 1:

TV, though they won't be able to tell well you gotta pull up your phone and let us know people a chore, oh boy because I think it's helpful for everybody. I remembered when Doc said he first like watched us and got into it. He was watching on a TV, he was like making multiple people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was like making lunch or something and he heard you mention his name, he like got excited. Let's see. Corey says I love craters. Utilize chapters makes quick search just so much better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sure.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's like everybody.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you if you can do that you should be doing that Let me tell you, when I open a 25 minute video and I need one specific thing, and there's no chapters and I'll forget it?

Speaker 2:

I would. I would just abort Back to go go refine search. Yeah, kane says I make long one-hour practice exam live streams. Save for VOD, then cut questions in a 15 minute VOD. You will split between viewing for each gives the audience choice for what they feel up to that's great, that's interestingly, longer form has increased TV viewing. Oh, really. So it's like because you made longer videos, tv viewing went up for you Interesting. So if you made longer videos, what if your TV viewing would go up?

Speaker 1:

That's a lot. Of my videos are 25 to 30 minutes already.

Speaker 2:

I know it's pretty long I.

Speaker 1:

Feel like they're too long sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Old school laptops simply because of the chat, nice laptop. Today I'm watching on my laptop. Last week as iPad, mac PC, I'm watching on my phone, almost everything on my phone, so it's kind of even well. We haven't had a TV person, but that's probably because the TV person is we can't.

Speaker 1:

They're stuck screaming at their TV right now.

Speaker 2:

Da Vinci is an auto tech generator, and all I'd have to do is edit a few typos, and I still don't want to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I wish Final Cut had something like that, where it, just as you basically exported the video, it did the captains Simultaneously and you're done. I think premier does it too.

Speaker 2:

Oh cut does it.

Speaker 1:

Final Cut. You can do subtitles, but you can't easily as far as. I know export like the SRT file.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you can you can yeah, it's funny that you never knew this. I'm not like calling you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean no, I would love to learn.

Speaker 2:

So text on screen. You know you add a text box that is different from captions.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

You so yeah, so like, it's like a different color on the timeline.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, I know that yeah, that you can export.

Speaker 2:

I thought.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't know, I don't, I don't know. Is there a risk week?

Speaker 2:

Seriously.

Speaker 1:

It's just the sound of our laughter reverberating.

Speaker 2:

Well, we're kind of like two and a half hours away.

Speaker 1:

We usually still feel them though.

Speaker 2:

Let me see If I work out, it goes on the big screen. Homeless Ignac, I think 90% of my live streams have chapters. I put them afterwards so people can practice guitar with me. See, that makes sense. Homeless Ignac, I was trying to like chapter marker hours.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, that was a 4.7 in Malibu.

Speaker 2:

Oh wow, that's a big one. That's a big guy. We didn't feel anything.

Speaker 1:

No, it was a rocking back.

Speaker 2:

We were like laughing though.

Speaker 1:

The dogs usually freak out, though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he'd been still sleeping. He didn't feel anything. Let's see, I'm at my computer for this, because I'm usually at my desk at this time. Phone it means I can get my boys breakfast while I listen. Curious, how much video podcasts are driving the TV video. Oh see, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot Right.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I have no idea. I feel like live streams and video podcasts. Those are great things to put on the TV and then do your thing.

Speaker 2:

I know, but see, what I do is I put my AirPods on, I have it on my phone and then I go wash the dishes.

Speaker 1:

But I like putting stuff on the TV long form when I know I'm not going to have to change it or mess with anything.

Speaker 2:

X-PAT animator TV all the time.

Speaker 1:

TV all the time.

Speaker 2:

Mr Canberra Junkie says over at 5.5 in Hawaii. Well, this was in Malibu, which is a lot closer to Kevin. Yeah, oh, RIMJAM says I'm on TV now texting on my phone.

Speaker 1:

Nice hashtag rebel.

Speaker 2:

Michael, I open my phone with the YouTube app to comment on something I'm watching live on TV. Yeah, oh, because, yeah, because it says you can use the devices together. Oh, we see that smart.

Speaker 1:

That's the way to solve that. And if you have Apple TV I'm guessing some of the other ones too where you can do text-to-speech remote, I think you can go into the comments and just leave your comment that way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. See, the world is an interesting place.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it is so, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah. What else is up?

Speaker 1:

We have 10 more minutes, well, outside of the world of YouTube, we've been playing a lot of games. Oh, before that on Related.

Speaker 2:

Pings oh, you wanted to go there.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, we don't have to go there, but the pod might cover here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I did ask Rode if I could show these, yet they said yes, because it's a thing, it's a real where is it?

Speaker 1:

It's not out yet, but they said I can show them, and obviously not just blue, but they gave me a blue one because it's the perfect shade of blue. But I had an awkward moment that I still haven't addressed in the comments for my most recent video. I had this mic, sort of just in the frame, just for funsies, and a bunch of people were like, oh, blue pod mic, crazy, crazy, crazy. And someone was like, hey, where did you get that white pod mic? It's beautiful, I need to know. And I was like I don't know how to tell the person. This is not a white mic If I'm going to help them discover color blindness right now, or like.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I don't know about that, so I just didn't say anything.

Speaker 1:

Oh wait, it was Nice t-shirt lady.

Speaker 2:

Respectfully. Thank you, rainy Cajun. Tom, real quick, what's your favorite cold shoe mount shock of Mike these days? It's still. It's been for a long time.

Speaker 1:

The video, mike and TG. I just really like that one. I think it sounds super good and it. I love the Dial, the game dial. On the back. Corey says I miss channel intros.

Speaker 2:

I know most people don't like them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I kind of miss because you know what it was like personality, right, it was like you get to feel I still put mine in. Sometimes it's literally like three seconds, but I put it in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

I thought about it, I thought I had a thought oh, I mean, I don't miss the you know like 20 second dubstep generated like Intros from 2014 or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Like, because it's like you try to you open up a tutorial for a very quick thing and half the video is the intro, I mean it is really funny when there's like a minute 20 video and there's a 20 second intro. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's also funny. I've noticed sometimes there'll be a one or two minute tutorial of some kind that I find and I'm like doing two X speed or double tapping to skip through and I'm like God, if you're making a minute and a half feel like an eternity, because the other, the flip side, is, of course you can watch an hour long video and be like, oh, it's done already. Yeah, crazy A C isn't that funny, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly. Tom, did you ever get your grandfather's ham call sign? No, no, you did not.

Speaker 1:

I need to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've been needing to. It's always there. But we've discovered a thing about me recently what If I don't see something? It doesn't exist? So it which is something we've known about Heather for a long time, and so I have a thing on my to do list, but it's not literally on a list in front of me.

Speaker 2:

It is not a thing that exists.

Speaker 1:

It will not happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Drew's here. Hello, hello, hello.

Speaker 1:

I need to get that. I want to get that. That would be so cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, add that to the list.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, oh, all right, so we're going to talk about games. Oh, I just I sure you have sure, until I had a little show until. Oh, look at you wiggling in your seat. Do you want to do show and tell?

Speaker 1:

me? No man, we don't have to show and tell.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying that like some bad thing because Kevin is here, I have he hasn't said anything since he felt the earthquake. I don't know, he might have fallen into an abyss in Malibu or something, but if Kevin survived the quake, yeah, kevin, are you okay Pulling toys to let us know I don't feel really bad of something that actually happened.

Speaker 1:

It's like pinned under his desk. This isn't funny. For Christmas, Kevin gave me this yes. Which is a thing we had talked about like months before, and I kind of looked into and then understand this is an analog pocket and there's a bunch of like Game Boy emulator and emulator things.

Speaker 2:

This is pretty awesome, though, because this is like his talk about favorite.

Speaker 1:

You want to talk about the hours I have put on this thing. It's a good gift, so thank you. It can play any Game Boy cartridge Game Boy Classic, game Boy Color, game Boy Advance. You can take the old school cartridges, just pop them in here. It can recreate the Game Boy display so it can do a really nice like high res display and the highest quality possible for whatever cartridge you use. Or you can have it look like the old Green Game Boy or Game Boy Color or whatever and it really looks like the screen is the old screen. It doesn't look like a computer, fake version of it. But of course you can also put in like different systems and ROMs and things, which has been really fun.

Speaker 2:

So he loves it. Yes, he loves it.

Speaker 1:

So what I did with it, what I got it? I was like poking around in my old like links Awakening and my old cartridges and stuff. But then I played Chrono Trigger, your favorite game of all time.

Speaker 2:

My favorite game of all time. I played many a video game. That one is my favorite. She talked about it.

Speaker 1:

She talked about it since the day we met. Yeah, chrono Trigger, that was your phone case. It was your phone case, like design.

Speaker 2:

What's the big part of my life? I've never been an RPC person. I would be who I am if not for Chrono Trigger.

Speaker 1:

And I played that game on here, which I know it was a Super Nintendo game, but I played it on here and it was so much fun and I loved it. And then I was done with it and I was so sad that I wanted to do more. So then I dove into Earthbound, which I also really, really loved, and now I'm into the sequel.

Speaker 1:

The sequel, which is called Mother 3, but was never released in the US, so it was never translated. So there's only fan translations and it's a whole thing. But I'm doing that on here and it has been so much fun and I've never seen Tom play video games like this ever, and it's like it's awesome, you know, but I've never seen it and it's just like who are you?

Speaker 1:

So to get them to for Mother 3, I had to buy a fan translation cartridge because I really like I have my Lynx Awakening cartridge from 1995. That's like the one I played on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I like that, and so I was like I want to do this when I dive into this, this other new game, it'd be cool to have the cartridge of it, but it doesn't like exist, so about like a fan translation. Quality wasn't amazing, because when it got warm from being played, the text would start getting garbled on supreme. But then I learned this is where I was looking at tutorials recently. To bring it back to the topic I finally found a very good, like five minute tutorial that explained how to take a save from a cartridge and load it onto the micro SD card so you can then use a ROM and put the save state pick up where you left off.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

But the cool thing is, rather than emulating this is what I've come to understand about the pocket specifically, which is why I think it's so neat. There's lots of emulators out there but things are always like a little bit off in the games or like the. There's weird latency or control things. This and maybe it's splitting hairs. It's different than emulation because it essentially like the way that the hardware inside works. It like not physically moves or anything, but it reconfigures itself to be the device. That it's like emulating. So if you're playing a Game Boy Advance, it is working the same way as a Game Boy Advance or original Game Boy or Super Nintendo or whatever it might be, which is very cool because there's no you get all like the absolute, exact experience of the original game on the thing.

Speaker 1:

Even though you're playing on that, even though you're playing on that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I want to know when is the YouTube video coming out on? Tom plays video games now.

Speaker 1:

I play video games all the time, but not RPGs are different. Rpgs are very different.

Speaker 2:

That's time intensive yeah. He was like explaining to me, like leveling up, and I had to explain the rolling HP meter in the Earthbound series.

Speaker 1:

Because you don't just lose your HP when you get hit. You get hit and then it rolls back, but if you end the battle quick enough, you can avoid getting too much damage. Anyway.

Speaker 2:

Kevin actually had stuff fall in his apartment. That's like crazy, yeah, oh, what about tech audit TV? Tech audit TV wants to know the name of the device. I still might get more color, but can't stay on the screen.

Speaker 1:

The analog pocket. It's not the cheapest.

Speaker 2:

Analog is spelled with an E yeah.

Speaker 1:

Analog U E after G U E. Yeah, it's not the least expensive device out there, but it's like the most premium one and they have different they all. It seems like it's kind of hard to get not unlike the Elgato prompter, but they do like limited edition ones. So they did like a limited edition color run. They have a standard black and white one. They did like a glow in the dark one.

Speaker 2:

This is a newbie to RPGs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you guys want to make recommendations specifically though here's what I'm looking for right now. He's into retro gaming.

Speaker 1:

I'm more into the old school ones that I could play on here, so something from a Game Boy or a Super Nintendo maybe, maybe a Genesis or a Game Gear or something if there were any RPGs on there.

Speaker 2:

He's into the super fix.

Speaker 1:

I'm not currently yet into random battles.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, if there's random battles, he can't do it Too much, just stress.

Speaker 1:

So everything I've played so far Chrono Trigger and both the Earth Bounds do not have random battles. You can see the enemy and you know.

Speaker 2:

Okay, adam Brown says hello to my favorite YouTube couple. I like Kara and Nate, but we saw you two come together. Wow, then your old school then, because we've been together a while I know.

Speaker 1:

What was it we were talking about today?

Speaker 2:

I know who's Kara and Nate. Do we know them? Do you watch them?

Speaker 1:

They're old school YouTube couple, kara and.

Speaker 2:

Nate, let's see Rocky is sitting next to me geeking out over Tom playing old RPGs, yes so.

Speaker 1:

There's a few. I have a few on there that I haven't. Golden Sun was one that's highly recommended for Super Nintendo but has random battles.

Speaker 2:

So, like Mr Camera Drunkie, what would your?

Speaker 1:

If I like Earth Bound and Chrono Trigger, what else would I like?

Speaker 2:

I feel like Lewis would be like jump into a Final Fantasy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there are. Yeah, there are Final Fantasies on there.

Speaker 2:

But I feel like you're holding off on.

Speaker 1:

I know there's like I want to do Sea of Stars.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Sea of.

Speaker 2:

Stars. This is one that just came out, but I'm like really liking.

Speaker 1:

There's something about the small. I know it feels like playing a Game Boy as a kid. This can only do the one thing it just play the games. It's small, it's vertical, it's just like listen. Come on now.

Speaker 2:

It feels good, it's a good.

Speaker 1:

It feels good. It's a good device, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a Tomb of Two. Game Review exactly. Oh man, there's gotta be.

Speaker 1:

One time I saw scary comment sections oh are they I? Don't know. I just meant person who knows nothing about games or viewing games.

Speaker 2:

Oh, come now. It's the enthusiasm. Oh come now, come on, you can't do it, that's it. Oh, come now.

Speaker 1:

You turned into like a British nanny. Oh, come now Frasier over here.

Speaker 2:

I started my gaming channel.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just realized that. As I said, it was a very positive experience. But you also like I went in with the noob angle, like I'm new to this Show me the way You've been doing it longer than like everyone who watched has been alive pretty much.

Speaker 2:

I know Wait what.

Speaker 1:

You had been playing games longer than most people had been.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I was new to that game, but anyway, star Ocean is good, but all my faves have random battles.

Speaker 1:

Really Like what. You just have to accept it as a thing I don't think you do. There's other games out well at.

Speaker 2:

The thing is it's the retro games have a lot of random battles but, like I'd say, you know 2005 and beyond. We did away with that. That's nice because that the game me acts aspect was it's turned into like puzzles. It turned into like right Harder bosses. It wasn't like you're just walking through the map and boom. Oh yeah, I still play ff7 on PC. Rebirth is coming out very soon and the demo's out. Oh, did file 5c3 or 6 have a Gameboy version? No?

Speaker 1:

Three does well. I don't know if it's a Gameboy version, but I know people play it on there.

Speaker 2:

I know, but see if you're gonna play file 5c3 like Play. Play what they just came out with on the switch last year, like they remastered all of them.

Speaker 1:

I know and I love the switch, but I really love the pocket.

Speaker 2:

Tetris and dr Mario are all I remember your dr Mario phase. They that app doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1:

So people got too mad was it on the phone or was it on the switch?

Speaker 2:

I was on my phone like remember that one, that's right, you battled with other people. Oh my god, it was so there's a problem. Mike Tyson's punch out paper boy, oh paper boy, oh my gosh. Tech mobile and Tetris is all. One needs Tetris. I mean shoot. I could bust that out right here, look.

Speaker 1:

There you go. I mean, I got my Tetris cartridge, I could pop it in right there we just played.

Speaker 2:

Tetris is so fun.

Speaker 1:

Tetris 99 is fun. What is it? What is it called? Tetris Maximus or something?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like when you so Tetris 99. This is a free game on like all Nintendo switches, but it's basically you versus 98 other people and If you are the last person standing, you get the title. I think it's Tetris.

Speaker 1:

Invictus no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, invictus, I think I don't know whatever, and then you get. You Get access to everyone else who has also been number one. Like to play them. It is a I don't like playing there, yeah crazy. But yeah, acabella, do a video on top up to about this analog pocket and where to acquire games and such. See Gotta give people what they want the acquiring game.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it'd be fun.

Speaker 2:

The you haven't been this into like a new thing since hockey.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean yeah, but it's. I mean it's really, it's fun, because it's like, oh great, there's 30 years of games to go through and catch up on, like you know, like it's great. The thing about acquiring games, though, is I'm not sure what the rules are, because what analog did? They marketed this, as you can now play all your cartridges. So cartridge for many, game Boy, pop it in here. Even you get an adapter to game gear games. But they also put Open PGA or FPGA or whatever in here, which means that it's capable of loading cores which are like other systems, so you can put the Super Nintendo core, the Sega Genesis core, the Game Boy Advance core.

Speaker 1:

All in your pocket and then once you have a core, you know if you somehow have created a ROM or have access to a ROM of a game, you could put that in there. But they're. They're kind of like oh, we put in this functionality, we don't know, you know what, what anybody would possibly do with that. And then if you go online trying to look up like how do you get games or do whatever people like oh, you install cores, and Then we don't know, I guess in theory someone could put a ROM on there if they had a yeah, cuz it's all like illegal I don't it's gray areas, but like the mother three fan translation of a game.

Speaker 1:

Like is like out of print You're buying a game.

Speaker 2:

You're downloading a game without buying it.

Speaker 1:

I Would never, would never I Did. I don't know what you're talking about I. Don't know what you're talking about. No idea. I definitely wouldn't go to Google and search like Rom downloads or something and just click on the first website.

Speaker 2:

That's not a thing I would do. I feel college purses. Thanks to miss Pac-Man, I'm not old.

Speaker 1:

I Love Pac-Man and miss Pac-Man though.

Speaker 2:

I was the difference between miss Pac-Man and Pac-Man.

Speaker 1:

She had a bow, that was it alright.

Speaker 2:

like game wise, it was the same.

Speaker 1:

I think some of the items are different.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember. Well, we went to David Buster's recently and they had a giant Pac-Man where like eight people could play at a time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that was insane it was crazy.

Speaker 2:

It was. He was like a pool table like that size.

Speaker 1:

It was cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's fun it was really fun. The tech on TV. Have you guys experimented with vertical live streams that get pushed through the short feed?

Speaker 1:

No, I didn't know.

Speaker 2:

That was a thing. I just saw this on e-cam.

Speaker 1:

So you can live stream shorts, but that's not very short. I Know that vertical streaming is more of a thing.

Speaker 2:

So say, you wanted to go live to Instagram? Yeah, and YouTube Shorts, I don't know. So I think when they click on the short, it would look like an Instagram feed. Okay like Instagram live, right? No, the answer is no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, clearly we're not.

Speaker 2:

I still play Castlevania of my og game boy, napster. For games, I Love David Buster's, so do we? They just opened up one here in our area. The closest one was like an hour and a half, yeah, so it's been awesome.

Speaker 1:

I caught it. Tv sounds like plexus, entire business model. I suppose some crazy person out there could hypothetically pirate movies and watch them be our platform, but They'd have to be crazy. Only a crazy person would do something that crazy.

Speaker 2:

I smell a class action suit. Res me a periscope so familiar that was like a Twitter.

Speaker 1:

It got absorbed into Twitter at some point. That was like only live streaming right, it was my gosh, you know we should do like talk about every platform. Oh Lord friends her my space.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all of them live journal blog spot. I'm waiting for you to say a secret one I've never heard of.

Speaker 1:

I just know the ones that I. I'm sure you knew more than I did. I don't know a well incident messenger, msn messenger, what was it? Was it Yahoo chat rooms? We're had, like all the different topics.

Speaker 2:

Use Yahoo chat rooms. Yeah, that's cute asl 16 female Cali.

Speaker 1:

I was always like. I never said my actual name, but I was. I was always honest about like Whatever you know 14 MCA. Thank you, mr Camerajan, for this link you sent me what oh? 20 classic RPGs that are still great today.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I want to look at the list. Compuserve damn, I think I have to get one of these analog pockets and find time to play. I don't, tom is like. I Don't even know what used to do with your time, but multiple hours per day are now spent on that thing, which I love. Okay, I think it's a problem because I also play multiple hours playing video games, but right now I'm Doing PlayStation stuff, so yeah, she's on the PS5.

Speaker 1:

It's very different.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm playing yakuza.

Speaker 1:

Here's the number one.

Speaker 2:

Yo.

Speaker 1:

Chrono trigger is the number one on that list you guys have to play it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's like tick-tock your life streams appear in the same fetus shorts and are separate from horizontal lives. But I've done two vertical life streams and I probably get five times viewers. We should try it.

Speaker 1:

It'd be fun. Oh, earthbound's number six.

Speaker 2:

I started with ICQ.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I remember that. I see Q I never had it, but I remember knowing of it.

Speaker 2:

I'm disconnecting from all this of the legal activity. I was never here. I CQ brought back memories. I see Q. Why does that sound familiar?

Speaker 1:

Well it was. It wasn't like aim, but it kind of was, wasn't it? You had like a number or something and people could chat.

Speaker 2:

CQ. It sounds so familiar.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, there's a lot of games on here I haven't heard of and I there's your list.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right, we should call it. Yeah, it's a nap time for the babes over here After he plays at a lock pocket. Anyway, today was super fun and we will catch you next week, is there?

Speaker 1:

anything else, time to clear the table. Youtube huddle up.

Speaker 2:

YouTube huddle up on the day a dish, yep and yeah.

Speaker 1:

So thank you for hanging out with us. Thank you for all the fun. Hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your weekend this week day, friday. Weekend and see you next time.

Speaker 2:

See ya, bye.

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