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Are Vlogs Dead? [082]

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Vlogging in 2022. Is it a thing? Do you watch vlogs? Do we watch vlogs? Let's talk about it!

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Hello and welcome. My name is Tom.

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And I'm Heather.

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And you're sitting at the Couples Table.

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As long as we both shall live.

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You threw me off. What do we what?

SPEAKER_00

No, I was thinking there's a there's an old episode of The Simpsons where Homer and Marge have to get remarried, and Homer writes their vows, and like the Reverend is reading them, and he says, for richness and poorness, poorness is underlined. I just thought of that when I said that part. Anyway.

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Hello, everybody. Hello. Let's give a quick shout-out to everyone who's here. Melanie, call me cubby, Daniel Gereford, Simply OBS, Hot Tub Lady, Drew from the Brewlog, Curiosity Network Podcast, OBS, did I say you already? Divergent Design Studios. Jared is driving using voice to text since Tom called me out a couple episodes ago. And Homesick Mac. Hello, hello. I'll be on the fly on the wall today, preparing for a filming job tomorrow. Packing and all great.

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That goes well. And uh I have forgot to upload the since we moved in here. I forgot to upload the audio versions of the podcast because it's normally just on my computer, ready to go, and I completely forgot. So I will be doing that, and I'm sorry for those of you who listen to the audio versions later. Yep.

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Oh well. Sorry. Cappy, what's up? K Walk Comedy. James Hicks, good to see you. Rim Jam, Jared, and Rocky are here. Hey, hey, hey.

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Cool.

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Well, today, what are we talking about, Tom?

SPEAKER_00

Are vlogs dead?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. You tell me.

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, we're talking, we're we're sort of checking in because Heather, for a long time now. No, it's only been like a week. It feels a lot longer. What was your first one that you did? It was uh Village Fest.

SPEAKER_02

So two weeks. Two weeks today.

SPEAKER_00

I guess that's what vlogging does. It's changes the space-time continuum.

SPEAKER_02

It does.

SPEAKER_00

But you've made like five different ones, right?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so after a long extended break from not just YouTube and stuff, but from vlogging especially, yeah. Heather's been back on like making vlogs, and I feel and you feel that you've sort of hit the best balance creatively in terms of how you're feeling about it, like the intrinsic rewards for doing it, the motivation to do it, the fun that you're having while doing it. Um, and that's been really, really cool. So now that you've been doing that for a while, it's a good time to kind of check in because several years ago, vlog content on YouTube was hugely popular, and now in 2022, like what has changed, because it definitely went to a point a while ago where it was extremely unpopular.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_00

I I think unless you were like, you know, one of the 20 million plus channels.

SPEAKER_02

So just no one was uploading vlog. Is that what it was?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, I mean, you remember up to like 2018 or so, it was like everybody was vlogging all the time, and then it was literally like then nobody I at least in it seemed like nobody was other than the big people. And it feels like in the past year or so it has started to come back more and more. Um, and even like we always talk about my friend Peter Lindgren, who has a 500,000 plus main channel and an 11,000 subscriber vlog channel, and he's like way more into the vlog channel and has a lot more fun with that.

SPEAKER_02

Um well before I dive into my thoughts, I'm I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about vlogs and the state of vlogs on YouTube. Do you agree that that vlogs are coming back, or like what's your what's your feeling about it based on what you watch? Because you know, we're all in different sides of YouTube. Right. Um, and maybe you only watch vlogs, so it's like it's never left for you. Um currently listening to music on Artlist for my upcoming vlogs. This is a good subject to listen to as well. Create a uh folder for your vlogs. Yeah. Greetings from the staycation spring break. Anita is here. Good to see you. Melanie wants to start vlogging again.

SPEAKER_00

I'm curious on because Melanie's been watching a lot of Heather's videos. I know, I rewatching. And I'm curious because Melanie does you do a lot of like documentary style stuff. That's kind of I'm curious what your thoughts are on vlogging. Um, from just based on the kind of work you normally do.

SPEAKER_02

Diana Glady, what's up? Howdy, howdy. Leo Keller's here. Hi. The snow, the garage, the festival. Vlogging isn't dead. Me and my dad watched her vlog this week. There you go. That's super cute. Vlogs are not dead. Vlogs work great with the right person in front of the camera and a story to wrap it all around. Uh, I've been obsessed with the woman living in a Prius. I have a Prius, I don't want to live in it, but I can't look away. Uh, vlogs are definitely coming back from what I've seen from other creators as well. That's so interesting. Isn't that interesting? Like it really is. I feel like what does that say about people that you know there was this collective urge to share about our lives and then it stopped?

SPEAKER_00

I think there was just again, there's like a pendulum that swings. I think there was like a saturation point that got hit, that got reached, especially at least in the world like my corner of YouTube that I watch, where it was like, yes, everyone was vlogging, but also a lot of the vlogs looked and felt exactly the same. And so it was like, why you know it's not it just stopped being interesting and shifted towards other, I guess, like more produced content or talking head content. And then I think it's just kind of that thing of like, well, gee, like I want to go out and do something, and vlogging is a very easy way to like go out and do something and share a story and have fun and like not focus so much on a thing, like, hey, I'm someone who talks about phones on my channel all the time, but people don't care about what I think or do or am interested in because they only care about the thing you talk about on your channel. So you can start a vlog where people aren't there for a product or a service or whatever, but they're there for you and your journey. And I think I think people started getting interested in that. I think there are a lot of people who have found a really cool balance between the two where they're taking like educational content or informational content and they're packaging it in a vlog style video, which is uh I it's uh when I see that done right, I think that that's very yeah, I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, vlogs are not dead, says Bailey. Where did your comment go? Boom. I think they've gone down in popularity, but I still really love watching your vlogs and Peter Linggren's vlogs.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and Peter is pushing a lot of people to not consciously, but through his channel, a lot of people have started vlogging.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I watched some Van Life Cabin in the Wood vlogs. Cabin in the Woods. That sounds fun. Uh, been loving your new vlogs. I hope it's not dead because I want to cover our travel to our seven Weird Al concerts this year.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I thought I misread that. I was like, oh, I thought you said Weird Al, but no, you did say weird owl.

SPEAKER_02

Uh let's see. I think everyone that did daily got tired and mass stopped. I love vlogs. Even trying to consistently post my own too, I care about documenting my journey.

SPEAKER_00

That's really your thing, right?

SPEAKER_02

Is having the having it because so like here's I I I can't remember if I've already said this. I don't think I have actually, but I've made five vlogs so far in the past two weeks. Um and it's really cute. I I always think of um our friend Jake Galvan, who used to be in Just Create More, passed away last year, but when he was showing off his channel, I think he was on a live stream. I think he was he was on the call-in show or something, and we pulled up his channel and he looked at, I don't know, the five videos he had on his channel, and he was like, Look at my babies, there they are. And I kind of feel that same way about the videos that I've made. Um, and one of them, the second one, was when we took the dogs to Idle Wild for their first time in the snow, and that one is the worst performing, which by the way, one of the cool things about me vlogging this time around is I really don't care how the videos perform. Um, and just to emphasize this point is like I usually because Tom is so prominent in the vlogs, I used to not do this, but you know, since he's like in a lot of them, I show him before I upload it just because I I just want to make sure, like I know you trust me, but I just want to make sure that you know, if you're like maybe we should cut that out or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

You didn't get the part where I was raging drunk and just like re-rating a bus driver yelling at me or something. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, that doesn't happen. But um, so I I before I even export, so that just in case I need to edit something out, or you know, he catches like the audio is weird here or something, or maybe there's a trick that I don't know about. Um and it was that snow vlog, and I showed it to him. And as soon as it was done, the first thing he said was, I'm so glad that this exists. So this is before I even uploaded it to YouTube for any views or comments or anything. And the fact that it's created is like to hear that from Tom is exactly why I'm doing this. Just like I'm so glad that we have this memory and that we can share it, which is awesome. But just like even before that, it's like, I don't know, it just it really makes me be present, which I know is weird because it's like, oh, you're whipping out your camera while you're in the moment. Doesn't that make it so you're not present? But to be able to relive that moment over and over whenever I want is kind of awesome.

SPEAKER_00

We were talking too, because you're saying that the vlogs are helping you to just like remember more.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I have ADHD, so I have a you know, I tend to forget very easily.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and so having that there helps you remember it. But what we were talking about a few days ago was when you re-watch a video that you made or that you filmed, you don't just remember the parts that are on video, but you remember it like triggers memories of other things. So maybe there's a clip of something happening, but then you'll remember a thought you had while you were filming, or you'll remember what happened in the car before you started. So it's like these actual recorded things start like helping you fill in the blanks between them, and it does bring in more memory, which is probably why I was like, Oh, you've been doing this for so long and it's only been two weeks, but because like all of these different things feels longer, yeah, that would normally have been just glossed over and kind of forgotten.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You kind of like sit with them and reflect on it more, it feels longer, and that's that's really, really fun.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Uh okay, go Johnny Goes here. What's up, Roger? Hi everyone. I've tried to implement a vlog kind of feeling in my latest videos just for the fun of it. Oh, it's great. Need to check it out. Jared says, vlogs are great if done right. It all comes down to the edit, needs to not be dragged out, needs a good pace with angle changes to keep it interesting.

SPEAKER_00

What do they call it? Visual, it's like a visual, not a visual cue, but there's like a visual interruption. I don't know, something that is the thing where when you have a certain amount of cuts.

SPEAKER_02

Like every 10 seconds, not 10 seconds, like every certain amount of time the angles should be changing, right? Like what people are looking at.

SPEAKER_00

Because it recenters the person's attention.

SPEAKER_02

You know who's not doing that? It's me. I hear of all kinds of things.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you mean like in the talking part?

SPEAKER_02

Like I'm not consciously thinking about it.

SPEAKER_00

But all kinds of angles, though. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Well, the way that I'm approaching it right now is that like because it's still so new again, I'm kind of just like not, I'm kind of just whatever it is, is what it is. Um, I'm sure, because I plan to continue for as long as I can. Um so I I I want to give myself like anchor points of okay, here's what we can level up, uh, whether it's a you know new piece of gear or a new technique or something like that. But for now, I'm kind of like in the sandbox. Like, is this what I even want to say? And I think with vlogs too, um they hit different when you have been following along as a viewer, right? Like if you just kind of pop in, I mean you can pop in anytime, but I think it's different when there's like a subject that's talked about in multiple vlogs, like now, you know, you're kind of like in on the joke kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, we were talking about this a while ago because there's a lot of people. I forget there was a comment while it said a bunch of people were doing daily vlogs and then stopped. And I I know there were a few people I saw who did do daily vlogs and then stopped, and they would do like semi-weekly every once every week or two, or even like once a month or something, but they would kind of do the same vlog video, and it just wouldn't, even though it was literally like the same kind of video they would have made then, it just didn't work because there wasn't that connection there. Um, because it was it was kind of that thing of you knew what happened the last one you knew here, you knew what's it's like following an episodic story versus just if you you know, if you watch episode six of season four of a serialized show, you're like, okay, I I guess this is good, but I don't it was like, oh, I don't want to give a spoiler for Spider-Man. Don't I won't give a spoiler, but there's there's a cameo very, very early in the movie um from a character from a a different series or whatever that I never watched. And it happened in the theater, and everyone, even Heather was like, Oh, and I was like, I guess that person must be somebody. Like, I don't know what this is.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so just to establish that to all of those things of like this is where we're at, and and I I really do kind of see these vlogs um differently because because I want it to be our life, like it's from my perspective, but the thing that I'm trying to capture is like our story.

SPEAKER_00

So the question that I think a lot of people have or have had is cool, totally makes sense. People have been doing home movies and capturing stuff forever. Why do you need to make a vlog and then put it online? And what I have noticed is like the snow thing's a good example. Got the 360 camera, got the GoPro, you've got your ZV1, um, and we could film all that stuff, and then I would know, like, I've got 360 footage of the snow, and you know how much I'm gonna go back and watch that? Probably never. Probably the day of I'll go like, wow, this is cool, and then I'll never do it again because every time I think, wasn't it fun to went to the snow? I'm not gonna go dig out that footage and watch it and try to find the good clips. And so having it all put together into something is is better than just having the raw like home video clips. And then if it's put together, I guess you could just keep it on your computer or Google Drive, but why not put it online where it is shareable? It is also backed up because it's on YouTube and it's a it's a reference point, you know. Every time we're doing something, how often does you always say, Go check out our vlog about this? Go check out the video I made about blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm not saying that like everyone should vlog, but like I it just seems like such a waste, you know. Like if it makes me happy, I'm sure it'll make somebody out there happy, you know, or like I have a long list of all the stuff I want to talk about or share, and there's a lot of like life lessons, and if it's something that I've learned, I'm sure other people would find that helpful too. I don't know, but it it's you know there is a certain level of vulnerability that I think you have to be okay with. So I'm not saying that like vlogging is for everybody, but um it's also how I started YouTube, so I don't really know how to do it any other way. Right. Uh I love vlogs, just made my first vlog yesterday for Instagram. Oh, that's great.

SPEAKER_00

16 seconds. Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, I think in the photo video niche, Peter Lingren recently changed a game, at least for me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think he was a good reminder of like, hey, remember these? We could go like there's more dimension to us than just camera specs.

SPEAKER_02

Also, less talking about what you're doing and more showing it.

SPEAKER_00

That's just good video production advice in general.

SPEAKER_02

I honestly stopped vlogging because it started feeling forced. I haven't been in a good mental and physical state this past year, but now that I'm starting a business, I want to document the journey.

SPEAKER_00

You should melody. That's a hard thing because especially if you watch other people's it's so natural to feel like you're kind of mimicking what you see, where it's like, okay, so this is what we're doing. You're like, but I don't talk like that. Why am I like it's it's I I have found it's hard to vlog in your it takes practice to vlog in your like authentication.

SPEAKER_02

In your voice, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh but that sounds so exciting, especially if you have like a an overarching quest. Definitely you're you're not gonna regret it, you know, like you wouldn't regret it. That's what I think. Drew, between both Peter McKinnon's and Lingran channels, Tepo and his brother Maddie, even all the photographers I watch are kind of doing a form of vlogging as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think it works in the photo video niche because it's a it's a simple way to actually also use the tools. Like you don't have to go make a film or something, it's gonna take months. You can you can go out in the world, use these tools, and then be like, hey, now I can talk about them.

SPEAKER_02

Is it the storytelling element of vlogs that draw people in? Why do you watch vlogs?

SPEAKER_00

I like the thing that drew me into them initially and still does on the ones I like is um sure, yeah, if the person's making an interesting point, obviously, but it's almost like a vicarious, visceral, tactile, you know. Like I go back to thinking Casey Neistat in his studio. That's what really what pulled me into vlogging, where it's like you could just feel you know, you just feel what it was like to be in there with him as he was like trying to put something together or figure something out or or whatever, and it was like, I really like this, it's it's fun. Feels like you're hanging out with someone and you're not.

SPEAKER_02

Man, I remember watching a vlog where he straight up was in my backyard. Oh, not your house backyard, but yeah, but like on the beach that was a mile from my apartment. I was like, Are you seriously right? And he, you know, that was a daily vlog, so he was there the day before, and I was like, Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean that that kind of stuff has happened multiple times. We were at Disneyland and he was there and we just there that day. We were getting on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and we heard some people like, yeah, he just got off the train, whatever. Like, who was that? And then we saw them like Instagramming that, like, oh, it was him. Um, what else? Oh, yeah. Casey did a video, I guess it was actually probably like a year ago, where he went surfing in an abandoned water park. But that's like our water park that's right over here that closed down. He was in like this wave pool that I almost drowned in when I was nine. I was like, wow, that's weird.

SPEAKER_02

What is Eamon and Beck?

SPEAKER_00

Do Eamon and Beck count as vlogs if yes? I don't know. I'm gonna say yes.

SPEAKER_02

I've been too busy suspending bad kids and parents to vlog. Oh, and parents. That's hard.

SPEAKER_00

That should be their their like suspension homework. Create a vlog that explains the motivation behind what you did.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, that's how I feel. Being glad it exists. Yes, capture the memories. Hey Matt, join late, 4 a.m. here. Ooh, or early.

SPEAKER_00

That's early, yeah. Um, really?

SPEAKER_02

Aubrey, we need to catch up. We need to catch up. Uh Bailey, I feel sorry for the people I know who got married during COVID, so I couldn't have friends or family, and some people just did it quietly. No photographer, nothing. It was honestly the best. Like, it was it was better than I could have imagined.

SPEAKER_00

Because you you think it would have been I can't even like I mean, everybody's weddings are a little different, but I think of all the weddings I've been to and all the weddings I like filmed or photographed where it was such a whirlwind, and the couple was exhausted, and they they they spent so much time planning this thing, and then they almost didn't get to enjoy it because they're being pulled in a thousand different directions and trying to then touch base with all these extended family members and friends, and it's it's like we just got to enjoy each other's company and do something special together, and I really liked it.

SPEAKER_02

I know, but like I think Tom feels away about weddings differently than I do. Like, I remember pre-COVID, I was like, okay, during our wedding, we're gonna rent out a theater because I want to show vlogs, and like all our loved ones are gonna be there in the audience. So I always wanted to do something different. This just really was like yeah, I've definitely like uh 40s of planning, a unique thing. So, like, yeah, we had a we it was the best.

SPEAKER_00

It was awesome, and we've gone back to that movie theater since then. We're like, I know, look where we're gonna be. It's our menu.

SPEAKER_02

Uh hey, Sammy Superstar, Ian. I've had like four grilled cheese sandwiches after you.

SPEAKER_00

We were talking about that sandwich this morning. It was so good. Grilled cheese is always good.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, I was had a grilled cheese since I met Tom. Like, I don't think I've ever had one.

SPEAKER_00

That was an especially good grilled cheese. But that one hit real different. Oof.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, is your garage becoming the Heather and Tom Creative Cave? So I would have loved to make because we have a three-car garage, there's room for like a third car, but that's where Tom's like workstation is to that's where you like fix stuff. Yeah. But that would have been like a cool. The problem is Oh, yeah, there's also a very big problem.

SPEAKER_00

Which is the heat.

SPEAKER_02

It gets it gets to like 120 in there in the summer. I don't know what that is in Celsius.

SPEAKER_00

It's like 43, 44 degrees Celsius.

SPEAKER_02

It gets hot. So there's no way we would survive.

SPEAKER_00

Video gear, uh like yeah, everything melts. I used to early. Early early in my channel, I did a weekly Sunday live stream. I called it a Sunday Funday live stream.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that was cute.

SPEAKER_00

Because that was how I dealt with my Sunday scaries of having to go back to work on Monday. Was like, I'll just stream and and forget about that feeling. And I was in really into 3D printing at the time. And so a lot of it I would go out in the garage and set up a camera. I think I should set up this camera and do um do streams. Like I'd push the workbench out from the wall so I could stand behind it like a Mr. Wizard kind of thing. It was fun. I had my little cart that I would wheel out there.

SPEAKER_02

Why you stopped live streaming? I thought you liked it. I do like it, but I his channel's at a different point where now it's like streaming is different when there are more people watching it. It's like stressful.

SPEAKER_00

But there are like I can do members-only streams and stuff. It's just sort of like I also have streamed a lot now. You know, so now I'm more of like less thinking, I just want to sit around and stream versus like could I do something that's like is there a purpose or a value behind it?

SPEAKER_02

I think letting vlogs develop is a thing, but go at your own pace, kind of flow. I'm not trying to produce a movie but share experiences. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Um, I plan on vlogging on Sunday. Me too, Jared. We have to do vlogception. I'm so I'm I'm like so excited. I'm very excited. Uh Matt says Peter vlogs are great, honestly. Heather has a way to catch attention. I I don't I don't I put like almost I put very little thought into what I'm gonna record. I hope to change that, but again, I'm still in like uh learning my letters, you know, kind of learn like I don't even know how to use the Sony Z V1. So I'm still like putting in the reps. Um so I have zero expectations. I really do hope my vlogs get better, but it's kind of a weird thing to say because it's so much of it is like life experiences, and you know, I don't know what moment could be better than like hanging out with the dogs on the first time in the snow, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh Tom has a point about reference point, love it. Aaron Brecke. I used to edit the home movies from Family Vacations I shot on the old camera that Tom has. YouTube definitely didn't exist at that point.

SPEAKER_00

I did that too with like tape-to-tape VCR editing, and I'd put like I had my CD player plugged in and doing sounds. And the thing with that is I remember always feeling kind of bummed out that like I'd edit a thing together and I would sometimes be proud of it, and I was like, well, what do I do with it? I guess I can show whoever I am physically next to if they want to see this 40 minutes of like my trip or my dog or whatever. Uh and yeah, there's no YouTube where it's like, hey, if I'm gonna put the work into editing something, might as well put it online.

SPEAKER_02

Gail, hello everybody. I love vlogging. Uh Kathy says vlogs are personal video time capsules.

SPEAKER_00

100%.

SPEAKER_02

JF Productions. JFK. It's JFK.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know. Oh, I thought you were joking. Oh, I thought you were joking.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the Sparrow Lab. I'm so bad at multitasking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That is this you, Marta? Did you change your channel name right now? That I can't do the thing and also film the thing. If someone followed me around and made the film, I would love to edit into stories. That takes practice.

SPEAKER_00

Well, because it it takes, like, I've been refinishing my guitar for weeks now, and I've been filming a little like clips of it, but it's like luckily I'm not doing a tutorial because it would take five times as long to do this thing. Um, but yeah, it takes here's how much time it's gonna take to do something, but now also including camera setup and shot changes and talking points.

SPEAKER_02

Like uh every time I went to VidCon, I vlogged. Oh my god, by the end of the day, I was so dead. Because it's like you're also thinking about what you're recording, you're trying to take in all the info that you're learning, you're meeting people like everywhere. It like I don't I don't even know how I did.

SPEAKER_01

I'm wearing a VidCon shirt.

SPEAKER_02

There you go. Rob Sup. By the way, I finished Ted Lasso. Oh, yeah, she's all caught up. I thought of you because I think you were the one telling us about it, and it was great.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, that was a victory.

SPEAKER_02

I know because he really he's been wanting me.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, I know you'll like the show, it doesn't even have shaky camera, it's like really good.

SPEAKER_02

Or you could vlog and keep breaking cameras like Peter L is doing accidentally. He he broke a camera again.

SPEAKER_00

He dropped his Sony A7S3, which is a $3,500 camera with a $3,000 lens on it. Um, and it the camera was okay, but it kind of like broke the front of the lens.

SPEAKER_02

Mike, I'm late, but you're here. Normalizing atheism. You two are great resources for YouTube creators in general, but I'd like to highlight how incredible Tom's reviews are and give him props for the production quality he puts into everything he does.

SPEAKER_00

I would like to normalize this type of comment. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02

Avenue and Beck is a Van Life Cabin in the Woods vlog channel. Definitely a vlog. There you go.

SPEAKER_00

There's also the guy, I guess he does vlogs. It's the guy who bought a ghost town. He bought like an he literally bought an entire ghost town in Northern California like a year or two ago, and he's the only person there, and he's just been fixing it up ever since. And so every month or so he'll do like alone in a ghost town again. What happened? Uh, this is really fun.

SPEAKER_02

I love doing vlogs, but not as much as I love doing lives. I think it's because I get too sucked into the editing that comes with vlogs, but still would love to get back to vlogging again. Becky Chris vlogs used to just amaze me. It made me realize how your own town is fun. You just have to find or create it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's a cool you start looking at things very differently.

SPEAKER_02

So different. Like, I can't do I can't do anything without thinking, like, oh, I should put this in the vlog. Like this morning I got new socks. Like, I ordered new socks, and I was like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna open this. I gotta do the unboxing in the vlog. And then I was like, gosh, I I don't know what's in the vlog anymore.

SPEAKER_00

There have been times, yeah, where we're like getting ready in the bathroom or whatever. And I'm like, wait. And I'm like, oh, did you ever think about Vlogball? Like, is should this be in the vlog?

SPEAKER_02

Stop talking right now. Because I hate being, you know, you want to capture it in the moment, and I don't, I don't can you say what you were saying? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Can you recapture the thought process?

SPEAKER_02

Low-key weddings are the most beautiful, in my opinion. I think it should just be like whatever you want it.

SPEAKER_00

I I yeah if it's really in tune with the pe the couple's like vibe, you know, whatever that is. If that's big and crazy, if that's low-key and simple. I, you know, I always love just being able to spend I'd rather spend quality time with a few people than like quantity time with a bunch of people, is just how I've always been.

SPEAKER_02

So I definitely want a small wedding that's fun versus work. The spiral app is Marta, new name, new YouTube partner just changed it. Great. Um, and everyone was able to watch our wedding.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which is amazing because we should re-watch our wedding on our anniversary on our anniversary. Yeah, we can do that.

SPEAKER_02

We'll do that.

SPEAKER_00

Is also the anniversary of the couple's table. Well, sort of.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

At least the inception.

SPEAKER_02

Let's see, dude, I lost my w voice on my wedding day because of all the stress. Made the vow is fun. Oh no.

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I do.

SPEAKER_00

You sound like Batman.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, not going to lie, I'm horrible at putting aside time to edit anything. Time management is horrible with me. I'm trying to get better though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was talking to Peter the other day, and he said for his vlogs, he just sets aside two hours. So he knows like he'll film all day, but he's only gonna give himself two hours to edit, and that's it. Whatever you get done in that time is what you get done. And that seems really smart to me because it could. I remember Casey used to say, like, I spent seven or eight hours, and obviously Casey vlogs when that was the full-time thing he was doing rat at different level, but yeah, to do seven, eight hours of editing every day, no, but two hours every few days, that's pretty manageable.

SPEAKER_02

Totally manageable, yeah. I I will say what's cool about this time around is I um with ADHD, it's very typical to be all or nothing. Like I'm either 100%, 110%, or zero, not moving.

SPEAKER_00

Negative 10.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've never I've never been able to to to figure out a uh I don't know a schedule or a balance of like how do I vlog but not do daily. I couldn't figure it out. Um and I don't I don't even know what I figured out, but for some reason I feel I feel like it just works right now. Um yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I what code I cracked to figure that out. I think you're always that's kind of a big deal though.

SPEAKER_00

I think it is. I think you're always thinking about it, but you're not necessarily like always making a video. So there's sometimes you're filming, sometimes you're editing, and sometimes you're just sort of like thinking about stewing, brewing, conceptualizing. Yeah. So it's it's it is always happening, yeah, but just different parts of it. Whereas I think before you were like, I will be filming and editing a vlog, and then what if I'm not doing that, it doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_02

The last time I vlogged was December pre-COVID, so 2019. I did every day in December.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

See, even that was just like that's a intense. Like there were some where it was like I was just just for the sake of being able to say I did it every day, I kind of just pulled whatever together. And that's what I told myself this time is like I'm not if I don't feel proud about it, I don't want to keep it. Cause like why? You know, and then if I don't want to keep it, then it's not worth sharing. Um, but I think another difference this time is I kind of always know what I want to talk about, like I kind of know what the point is, even though I'm capturing other things. So it's not like the vlog is about my day, and here's all bits and pieces throughout, and that being a story, it's more of like you know, Tom and I talking about how our business is going, but you're also gonna see us go on a date. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, geez, Jared, that's like a last voice for your way. I remember Tom's getting swole vlogs.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, that was I remember that.

SPEAKER_02

What Tom's getting swole vlog?

SPEAKER_00

It was one of the 30-day ones from back in the day. I was I was where I talked about the gym because I was like I going to like the gym seriously for like the first time.

SPEAKER_02

Aubrey, this thing is it looks exactly the same color as your background in your channel icon.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's just it's it has 17 coats of lacquer on it, and it's drying in the garage right now.

SPEAKER_02

Every day he works on this thing.

SPEAKER_00

It's done with lacquer. Now I just have to let it dry today. Tomorrow I can wet sand it, start wet sanding it, and then I need to polish it, and then it should be done, and then it's just reassembling.

SPEAKER_02

Are you making a video?

SPEAKER_00

I have been filming, yeah. So I have tons of footage.

SPEAKER_02

No, are you making a video? That's a different, that's a different question.

SPEAKER_00

My plan is yes, but I'm also not putting the pressure on myself of like now, it's another thing I have to do. But my plan is, yeah. I mean, I was filming stuff right before this.

SPEAKER_02

I don't vlog because I don't talk to the camera, but I love making travel videos and POV adventure videos.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm just using the GoPro, honestly, for like all of the guitar video.

SPEAKER_02

Persant, late, but here. Tom's video today was so good.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Um, it is so cool having you guys back on the regular. Yay!

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, Ghost Town Living.

SPEAKER_02

Ghost Town Living. Me and Lem love watching that. Um, I've almost finished watching Ted Last, so I think there are still three episodes left.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I thought I thought the third season had already come out, and I was thinking as we were watching, I was like, I don't remember what happened in the third, and we finished the second season and that was the end. I was like, I didn't realize we were done. I wasn't ready to be over yet.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Persant got the sound panel.

SPEAKER_00

That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02

I was so scared that nearly 24 hours because we just stuffed it into the box, and I was like, oh my god, please don't have this thing just like erupt in the truck. I'm glad you got them though. Um, if you guys watched that vlog when we were cleaning the garage, we had a bunch of sound panels that had just been sitting around, and Persant was like, I'll take them. So we sent them over, and he just got them. Yay, Michael. Love Tom's Dream Deck pedal review. The rim shots were hysterical.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. I love your channel icon, the Entero Bang, or as I call it, the quest clamation mark.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, I found that my channel vlogging has suffered a lot, mostly because of becoming a videographer for auto detail business, and of course, my main job gets in the way too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Time, it's it's hard. Like you can't beat yourself up for that either.

SPEAKER_02

Like I mean, I will say that you know, I've been on YouTube for six years, and I haven't felt as comfortable with this entire like vlogging vlogging process until this time. So I've tried so many times in the past, um, you know, starting and stopping, and like, yeah, you know, okay, fine, I'll vlog, and then I don't, and then I stop, and then you know, I have so much unedited footage of just they never made it, and I was just like, whatever. But I yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is about this time. I I it was it was a lot of things, and I think the best thing for me was was like having a purpose personally, because my ultimate purpose before it was like, okay, maybe I can use this for branding leverage, which will lead to you know, more um clients. Yeah, clients or you know, online course customers or whatever, or you know, before it was like, oh, I need to make a SEO vlog so I can grow my subscribers, and there was just so much other stuff. But now that my ultimate goal is to to capture the story of our life together, I mean, now it just I don't know. Now it just it's like everything is framed in that, and there's just no pressure. You've already won just by yeah, doing exactly and and there's a confidence. I will say that this confidence, I would not have had this if not for the years of experience, you know. So yeah. Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_00

Cool.

SPEAKER_02

When I used to vlog, I would have my camera at the ready anywhere and some fresh SD cards in my glove compartment.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I definitely want to see guitar making blog.

SPEAKER_00

Um I mean, yeah, there's the plan was to do like a members only thing for it.

SPEAKER_02

Don't forget to like if you like.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, there we go.

SPEAKER_00

We are pretty much caught up. Wow. Look at us. Go.

SPEAKER_02

So the Tom Vlog channel. How do you feel about because you're like kind of being forced into this?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I mean, I like it. I enjoy it. It's fun. Like, I always get excited when I see people making videos. And so you're making a video and then I get excited about it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The the toughest part, and I'll be completely honest, because you edit it, so you see it, but the toughest part is something I don't do well with in any part of life is being put completely on the spot for something.

SPEAKER_02

Tom doesn't like it. No, he gets very uncomfortable, very anxious, shuts down, like everything is like.

SPEAKER_00

No, it doesn't, yeah. Like I'll make it cannot compete. Yeah, I do not like being put on the spot. And so every once in a while, which is just through no fault of your own or anything, but every once in a while you're like, okay, like tell us about the thing here. And I just like can't. Or I mean I try to like fumble my way through it, but um, I probably don't do as good a job explaining, or I sound cranky, or whatever it might be. Um, so that's that's the hardest part, but you know, as long as you're fine editing that out, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02

I I don't know, I've never I haven't seen or you know, you haven't done anything.

SPEAKER_00

Well, maybe it's just my internal feel. I guess I think I I've learned too. Sometimes I have little internal bursts of emotion that if I just like don't acknowledge them or bring them up, nobody knows. And then it's fine.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the buckin' vlog. I love that. The guitar channel. I love watching Potato Jet's channel and his personal vlog.

SPEAKER_00

His personal vlog, I haven't watched his channel as much lately, but his personal vlog was interesting. I don't know if he still does it this way, but he was doing a daily vlog, but instead of making a video every day, he was just recording a bit every day. And then when he would make a video, he would just put all whatever days were there, he'd put them in the video. So this vlog might cover five days, this might be one day, this might be a week, and it would just be like little dates at the bottom, you know, Tuesday the 26th, Wednesday the 27th. I was like, that's kind of cool. Like you're doing a daily vlog, but you don't have the pressure of making and uploading a video every day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, just got the Insta3601x2. Is that the one we have? Any plans on a tutorial video on the camera?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I'm definitely gonna do a review on it. Uh, which I don't know if it'll be like tips. Yeah, I'll probably have tips. I don't think I'm at the point where I could teach a tutorial on it, but I definitely I've used it and loved it enough that like it's so cool. Yeah, I originally wasn't doing anything with it, and then I thought I'll do a comparison with the GoPro, and then I was like, actually, this is just worth its own video, like it's not it's so cool.

SPEAKER_02

It's one of the coolest things ever. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I'm definitely gonna be doing a video on that. And and I want to do reviews on all three of my cameras, so I keep forgetting, and I'm like, oh, if I don't know what to make a video about, like just pick one of the cameras and make a video about it because camera and lens reviews are some of my favorite videos to make because you have to go out and film all kinds of different stuff. Like you sit and talk about it, of course, but you need to go out and like show all the different use cases and film interesting things and like it's a fun, different way of making a video. Whereas if you're making like a mic review, even though sometimes I will literally put the microphones outside just to go film at a different spot, it doesn't really make sense. On location, yeah, like why is this microphone in the grass? But it's like because it looks pretty. Uh so most of the time, those are like you know, studio-based videos, yeah. Camera and lens videos, it's easier to be like world-based videos, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So have a lot of fun with those.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So the only reason I'd want to do a vlog channel is just to use the name Tom Buck2.

SPEAKER_02

Just make the Tom Buck2 channel.

SPEAKER_00

But but there's but the the the hard part is What's the hard part, Tom? Um, I I I've talked to you about this, I was talking to Peter about this. The hard part for me is I have no problem doing vlogs for like members only and Patreon because I have no specific content schedule for that. It's like I upload bonus videos and video podcasts and things that I think are interesting every so often. So several times a month, something goes up. But it's not like every Tuesday you're gonna get this. So there's no pressure, and those things would fit in great there. It's already people who've opted into like probably being interested in that kind of stuff. Um, and there's no pressure if I do a video now, like, and then I don't do another one for a month. I don't I don't feel bad about that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, whereas if there's an actual public channel, I would feel weird, like here's a video, and then nothing for three weeks, and then two videos in a row. And I know the story of my life. I know it doesn't matter, like it doesn't matter because I wouldn't be trying to make that channel like you're not trying to grow it or anything. Yeah, I'm not, it's not, it's not what it's for. Um, but it still feels like I've only ever done YouTube with a very, very specific upload schedule that is never missed. So I don't know how to like randomly and let things sit. And I don't, I'm just like not comfortable with the idea at all. Uh yeah, so that's my thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_02

Just have a series.

SPEAKER_00

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02

The Tombook 2 series. And it's for channel members only.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean I can do something like that.

SPEAKER_02

The Tombook 2 playlist.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02

That'll be fine. So, what makes a good vlog, Tom? How can I improve?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I mean, I think you're doing a great job. I think getting to know your camera, because the biggest thing that's frustrating you is a lot of times, especially if it's a talking part, the background is blown out and figuring out which we talked about the ND filter and all that.

SPEAKER_02

Did you see? Do you have the the dual the dual mic set up right now?

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You guys have to see this.

SPEAKER_00

This is a cool story, actually.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, he's got a cool story. This is show and tell. I you guys know me. I I'm all about simplicity, ease of use. This camera right here, which is blurred out because it's all the way on the shelf. This is the Canon S110. It's still my favorite vlogging camera to this day. It's just that the three I own are all broken.

SPEAKER_00

The three S110. You have a lot of cameras, actually, because there's an S110, there's a purple S something, there's a M50, there's a T3i, another S110. I really should there's a Z V1.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't realize how many I had. Yeah, so here. Do you guys see this? Do you see this?

SPEAKER_00

What brought this up?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, because I was like, oh, how do I improve my vlogs when I thought about audio? I don't want to improve the audio. I think it's fine, but like I just let me see your ZV. So I I'm very I'm very confused. Is this an actual, like, this is the purpose of this?

SPEAKER_00

Well, okay, so yes and no. Um so you could, this would literally fit on here like this.

SPEAKER_02

So I have I have a microphone for this camera, but it's it's direct video micro. Yeah, so like you know, it points forward, and then you can't it's so good that you cannot hear me, and there's no way that I'm going to bother with like changing the mic direction. As I'm shooting something. Like, I need I can't like think that much. I I I just can't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um so that's why I was like, all right, we're just using the built-in mic with this little fuzzy thing, and it I think it works great.

SPEAKER_00

Um then there's this so okay, this is sort of the this is the reason this is a funny story is I did the video about the road video mic go to a couple weeks ago. Okay. And Matt Ruff, who's sometimes in the comments here, he left a comment on a video that was like, hey, I wonder if you could like position one of those forwards and backwards because these are inexpensive. Um, these are $100 each, so for $200, you could then have two USB mics, two video mics, and a backforth setup. Uh and I was like, Oh yeah, I don't know, that seems like a good idea. And then Rode emailed me and they had a screenshot of his comment from my channel. They're like, watching your video, we saw this comment. This seems really fun. We're gonna send you some stuff to see if it you can make it work. They're like, no, not to make a video or anything, but just for fun experiments or whatever. So they sent me another video mic go to, plus this little bracket, plus this splitter cable, so you can connect it to the hot shoe of your camera. There's a microphone forward and backward, and then just the one cable goes into the head, the microphone jack as normal. Um, and what it does is one of these is on the left channel and one of them's on the right channel. So when you're editing, you can easily mix those together so it's not like left or right, or you can mute one. So if if you know, if I asked Heather a question, I was just here going like you're not gonna hear my weird breathing.

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, because that's the thing, because it's so close to your mouth.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it it does though. Having a mic face backwards if you are doing a behind-the-camera pointing thing, that's how I've done like all of my studio tours, all of my live streaming setup videos.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I had no idea.

SPEAKER_00

It sounds just as good as a voiceover, but there's no syncing of anything. There's you're just like, oh yes, I have this and it does that, and it sounds amazing, and you don't, it saves so much time in the editing process. Uh, so this works. Deity, though, does make, I think it's the D4 Duo.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, someone just said, Oh, Leo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

D4 Duo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Deity, it's a microphone, it's a smaller microphone.

SPEAKER_02

It's like for this purpose.

SPEAKER_00

It's basically like if if this was just one of these and it had a mic on each side, and it's smaller and more compact, and it's specifically for this. But I thought this was funny, just like it's like a proof of concept. Um, and I don't do that enough where I would want to buy a specialized mic for it. Um, so it's kind of cool, like, well, hey, you might have you could rig something together. You might have two video mics, either they don't have to match, so it could be like the NTG and the Go or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and you can then make it work. So it's it's kind of cool. Uh and it's just really funny. But I posted this on Instagram stories, like, hey, it's a cool thing, and everyone thought it was a joke. It just kept sending me messages of like, that's hilarious. And I was like, no, but it it actually works.

SPEAKER_02

Movo and Didi is a dual mic where it's only the size of one mic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Which, if you need that a lot, it makes a lot more sense to use that than this.

SPEAKER_02

Uh Tom, you should review the new Waves plugin called Clarity VX for post-production. It looks to be a good option for moving background noise and plugins.

SPEAKER_00

I need to get uh I need to get better with plugins because I know there's so many, and I just like for both final cut and logic and audition, but what's like interesting about my vlogs is I've only edited on my laptop. Yeah, that's weird.

SPEAKER_02

It's so weird. Because I are you okay, buddy?

SPEAKER_00

You just let out a big old burp.

SPEAKER_02

You okay, Ben?

SPEAKER_00

Just a dog burp.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, I I don't know why. Oh, because of the audio thing. That's why. No, that's not why.

SPEAKER_00

No, I I don't you just have been, which is I think part of the reason why you're able to do them. I think if you had to come in here, even though this is a more powerful computer, but you had to be here and like editing like at work, you wouldn't make them. But if you can edit at the kitchen table, on the couch, um, at the you know whenever I just yeah. While you're eating breakfast away.

SPEAKER_02

When I can't sleep and I'm awake, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that has helped them to exist.

SPEAKER_02

Editing a video while listening. Oopsie. All good. Well, there we go. There we go.

SPEAKER_00

All right.

SPEAKER_02

All right.

SPEAKER_00

It's a little early, but we could clear the table a little early, I suppose.

SPEAKER_02

We're I don't know, any last thoughts on vlogs? Um, how do you feel about me even being back into this?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I'm so excited about it. Because like I said, I really get excited when people make videos. And I, you know, the day we met, I talk about you were she was making a vlog the day we met, and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. Like, she's like, I need to sit on my camera for a time lapse here, I need to do this, do that.

SPEAKER_02

Which is so weird because if I knew how like professional you were, I think I would have second-guessed myself.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I and that's that's a thing.

SPEAKER_02

I I just was doing my thing, and I I knew that like YouTube was my world, but if I had known that you like cameras were your world, you're like, what the hell is this canon? Switching.

SPEAKER_00

I've never had this thought at all. And that's like that's a thing that has popped up lately for some reason. Because I made my like why I went to Sony over Canon video. Um, and sometimes I'll I'll make other gear videos where people will like almost then apologize because like in that video, there's a lot of people like, well, I have the Canon M50 and I'd really like the A7S3, but I think this is okay for now. I think it's good enough. And I have to like camera shapes, very explicitly go like I have never in my life criticized somebody's gear choice even once.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that's not even like, well, I just held my tongue. I've never even had the thought.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Because you use what you gotta use.

SPEAKER_00

I am honestly more excited.

SPEAKER_02

If someone shows up with You're making anything at all.

SPEAKER_00

If I'm excited that you're making something, and I'm actually excited that you use what you use. So if you show up to a stream and you're using a blue Yeti, I'm not going to make fun of you if you're using a blue yeti. I'm curious about like what like why, like, what is the thought process and why, and how do you like it, and how do you use it, and whatever camera you're using, and whatever thing. I'm more curious in like like your thing. I remember thinking like that's really small and it's like super easy to take around. Like, I totally get why that would be better than a giant DSLR on a thing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, because you had been watching Casey at that point too.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and that's I also only ever use DSLRs, so it's like and and I remember like I bought the Sony RX100, which is like basically this size at that time to start my channel. I was like, gosh, there is something that's really cool about just compact, super compact camera, and that one, the flip-out screen I like, but if Mr. Camera Junkie Lewis is here, um the RX100 has the flip-up screen, and I actually do really like that because the whole thing is like so tiny.

SPEAKER_02

I like how you you look up at it versus look at the side. It's because the screen's on the side on here, but I liked how you would look like above the shot. That was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I don't I I still have that camera. I really, I really like it. I use it a lot, actually. It's a great camera. Um, but I remember like being excited, like, oh, these tiny cameras that I never even thought about before because I had DSLRs are amazing, and you know, whatever. Like, you know, these are hundred, this is a hundred dollar microphone, but it's super cool. Like, I probably wouldn't have bought it on my own because I didn't know about it, but then Rhodes sent me, well, I sent me two now, but they sent me the one. Um I was like, God, this thing's freaking cool. Like, I definitely would buy this.

SPEAKER_02

We should okay. Here's here's a future vlog idea. Are you ready for this?

SPEAKER_00

Dun dun dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_02

I think we should try to make a vlog with like look let's see how do I explain this? Um, how much does this cost? Like, how much does this thing cost? 700 bucks plus this, like this is what's in my hand right now?

SPEAKER_00

I mean 750.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. What if we tried to make a vlog with like trying to maximize as much dollar amount with all the gear you have?

SPEAKER_00

Like like the most expensive rights.

SPEAKER_02

Everything, the whole, yeah, like the whole, just everything, as expensive as it can be with everything that you have. And I'm just curious as well as.

SPEAKER_00

As long as you're like in a shady neighborhood with something.

SPEAKER_02

Like I'm just curious what that would look like. I would need a lot of help because I don't know how to use any of your stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because that would be like the the FX3s is the most expensive camera, and then it has the XLR handle, so you'd put like I have like the Sennheiser Oh, that one the $1,200 microphone in the $3,800 camera, and then a $1,500 lens, and then we carry on my $900.

SPEAKER_02

And you know what we should do? And then like we should mix the footage with this and see if people can tell. And not saying anything, and just being like No one will notice. Yeah, like, okay, so here we have two rigs for today's video.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you can for my little guitar video that I've been filming. I've just been using the GoPro 10 for pretty much the whole thing. Well, the reason I've been using it is because when I'm in the middle of working on stuff, I can just hit record, I know everything's gonna be in focus, everything's gonna be exposed, it's gonna be super stable, and the sound is gonna be fine. And like, that's fine. There are there are definitely times where I'm like trying, I'm holding it up, trying to show something, and it's like not going in focus, and I'm like, it's fine, like whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, of course, I love to use Sony FX3, but my Ace7 III still works perfectly fine, so why should I even upgrade it? Yeah, uh, I love watching folks that love Olympus and Panasomic cameras. I love watching folks, regardless of what they use, use what you love.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. That's what's more exciting is watching someone just use something they're excited about and proficient with. Like watching, yeah. I don't care what it is, but when someone's really good with a tool that they're using, it's yeah, that's that's it's so fascinating. It's admirable.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like Leo and his A7 III, which I'm guessing he can operate with his eyes closed and go through the menus and everything. Like, if you just watched him make something with it, that's way more interesting than watching someone with like a I don't know, an $8,000 camera that they're like, well, wait, where is the huh? Like, it's like a Rubik's Cube. I think slightly rough vlogs feel a little more real and immediate as long as the sound is good. Sound is important.

SPEAKER_02

Sound is important.

SPEAKER_00

Sounds like thank you guys for being here. We do have Heather made an end screen.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_00

So we can have a uh a minute of or so so everyone can say goodbye before the stream ends. And uh, I'll be sure to put this one and the missing ones up on the audio only version. So sorry if you've been missing those.

SPEAKER_02

And we will catch you guys next week. See you later. Bye.